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Using Qualification to DHV

by Moody on August 11, 2010


As I’ve developed my skill set over the last few years to become a better PUA and more recently, a coach, I’ve come to observe that one of the biggest problems a lot of guys in the community face; is understanding qualification. Qualification (or A3) is crucial to the success of a pick up. Not only is it a stepping stone to comfort and a must for starting rapport, finding commonalities, etc., it is also one of the best ways to prevent flaking.

Sometime ago, I invested in a VA boot camp. I also paid for some 1 on 1 time with the man himself… “Mystery”. Watching Mystery game a set was so intriguing and exciting to me. Although he did a great job of explaining qualification prior to us going out, I became fixated on his attraction game and him being the crazy, flashy guy who all the girls in the club noticed. I loved holding court, running cold reads, making out with girls (taken or not) and getting their numbers. Within a short time span of 7-8 weeks from my boot camp, I had racked up around 50 numbers and out of all those, maybe 3 were solid. That’s less than 10%. I really started to contemplate what I was doing wrong, so I sat down and tried to evaluate my situation. There were several contributing factors. My sets weren’t long enough and I was ejecting too fast after getting a number. However, the biggest mistake was failing to qualify.

Most pick up artists already know the main concepts behind qualification (read the Mystery Method: How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed if this is new to you). So assuming you understand the basics of qualification, I am going to give you a "before and after" example of one way you can really help improve this phase of your game.

Avoid the Interview

So what does the average guy in a bar/club do? As most of us know from once being that guy; not a whole lot. Rarely does he approach any of the girls he would consider attractive and should he muster up the courage to do so, it’s usually under the influence of alcohol with virtually no game plan. Naturally the AFC will quickly try to find commonalities. He will barrage a girl with a series of questions so he has something, anything that will help carry the interaction forward, while in reality, the girl is already bored and wondering when this guy who has approached her will go away. "What’s your name? Where are you from? What do you do? Do you come here often?" These are almost as painful to type out as they are to think about. This process is usually referred to as “The Interview”.

The term “The Interview” has also taken on another meaning in the seduction community. For example, say a PUA has approached a set, run his opener, engaged the group, built attraction and is now qualifying his target in the A3 phase. A problem I constantly see with guys is they will get into A3, throw a qualifying question, then another qualifying question, then another qualifying question to the point where it becomes, yet again, an interview.

The conversation starts to look like this.

PUA: What have you got going for you other than your looks?
HB: “Qualifies”
PUA: What’s the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done?
HB: “Qualifies”
PUA: If you could be anything in the world without failure what would it be? And don’t say princess

By now the interaction starts to get awkward and the PUA just seems like a social robot. Just because you’re out of A2 doesn’t mean you can stop contributing to the interaction. If your A3 game shares a resemblance to the above, its time to change it up, thus my next point.

Use Qualification to DHV

I can’t tell you how many guys fail to see A3 as an opportunity to demonstrate higher value. Remember, A3 leads to comfort. Just because I’m done A2 doesn’t mean I can stop using DHV’s. In fact, the DHV’s you’re using in A2 such as cold reads, humor, playful negs, etc. are only used to bring up her emotional state (buying temperature) so you can buy another minute to move on to the next phase. That type of attraction is temporary and will go nowhere unless you can bring the interaction forward and start qualifying. The attraction that comes from solid DHV stories is far more powerful and unlike an A2 attraction gambit, will leave a lasting effect.

There are 2 things you can do to help prepare yourself for having a more solid A3 game.

First of all, make a list of 10 things (non-physical) you want in a woman. Example: A girl who’s close to her family, a girl who’s adventurous, a girl who loves music, etc. I chose those 3 examples for 2 reasons. The first, those are all real traits I look for in a girl. The second, I have DHV stories for every one of them. So my interaction starts to sound like this.

Moody: I have a great family, what about you, are you close with yours?
HB: Oh ya, I love going home. My sister and I always…
Moody: That’s cool. I have a little sister too. This one time actually she called me up in tears…(Protector of Loved Ones story) DHV #1

Moody: So you and your sis play a lot of board games… that sounds kind of dorky, what’s the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done?
HB: haha I’m not a dork, in fact one time…
Moody: props! That is pretty crazy! This one time I was at a Rob Zombie concert with my girlfriend (Pre-selection Story) DHV #2

Moody: Ya, but the cops still let us go haha that was a close one. Regardless the show was great. What kind of music do you like? And don’t say Nickelback
HB: Oh god, I hate Nickelback. I love a lot of country music actually.
Moody: Do you listen to “The Judds?” 
HB: O ya, I know them
Moody: Get this, I was down in Atlanta last month. I was in the vip area of this club called Opera (Social Alignments Story where I met a famous country singer) DHV #3
Notice how I will calibrate my qualifiers for traits that I actually look for in a woman and I will have follow up DHV stories for every single one. If you’re going to ask a girl how adventurous she is, don’t you think there is a good chance she will ask you the same in return? So why not be prepared with a great story loaded with DHV spikes? Even if she doesn’t ask, you can simply say “Yeah that reminds me of the time” and tell your story anyway. 

Remember A3 is a smooth transition into comfort and the game is played in comfort.

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{ 3 comments… read them below or add one }

goose__ August 15, 2010 at 4:07 am

Looks like A2, with hook questions.
 
You're not excited about the girl, you're excited about talking about you.
But if it works, cool.
 
I find there are 4 lots of girls.
1.  The very few who don't reject me.
2.  The ones who reject me straight off.  'What?  No thanks'.
3.  The ones on 'entertain me' validation game – who just want you to run stories, then reject you.

4.  The very few girls on 'entertain you' validation game – who prove they are awesome, you become excited then they reject you.

What you're saying plays into category 3.  A lot.

Graphicxz September 19, 2010 at 10:53 am

Solid post, the examples on qualifying are proper stuff

Canello September 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

It's the so called 'riff' between the BHRR…

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