Taking Advice From Women
January 3, 2008 by Prophet
Filed under Dating Advice and Tips
We have an awesome on-going thread in our Best Of Section of the forum with a woman answering questions about Pick-Up from her perspective. It’s a great thread and there’s some awesome advice in it. You can find it here:
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7014
It has always been a standard sort of thinking by many aspiring PUAs to assume that you should never take the advice of a woman because what they say they want and what they really want are two different things. While this is true in many cases, it should not be taken as the final word on the matter.
You can take advice from women, just be sure to take it with a grain of salt. Don’t necessarily take every single word literally. Instead, try to understand why a women is saying a particular thing, as that can sometimes tell you more than the advice itself. You would even be surprised by how much you can learn just by watching your female friends deal with guys and applying what you see to what you know about female psychology. I always try to keep close female friends who I would never try to seduce, and I always try to encourage other PUAs to do the same. Close female friends who you are not sexually interested in are great for social proof as pivots, can help you be more comfortable being around women without experiencing sexual tension, or even just to make sure you have some women somewhere in your life at all times. But more importantly, you can learn a ton from them.
For instance, one of my good friends just broke up with her boyfriend. Within the first week of her being single, she received close to a hundred texts, phone calls, emails, and myspace/facebook messages from different AFC guys that she knows (which shows you the kind of quality of women I like to keep in my social circles). What I found interesting is that all of them were basically saying the same thing: “Hey, I heard you and XXXXX just broke up. If you want to get together and have a coffee and talk about it or something, I’m here for you.” Now, she’s not naive, she knows that it’s never just coffee, and she’s always telling me about these guys who hit on her in creepy/shady/AFC ways and I make sure to file every story in my brain under What Not To Do.
The amount of information I have acquired about women and how AFC guys act just by watching interactions between guys and my female friends is staggering. It quite possibly would have taken me years to learn so much without an open and semi-honest female brain to quiz and observe every now and then. I encourage all of you to strive to do the same.
Similarly, there are also many girls out there that are very much aware of how their minds work.
I was with another one of my friends on New Year’s and we were talking about an issue she had with a certain guy and – honest to god – she said to me “I don’t necessarily ‘like him’, he’s not even hot, but he’s just so cocky and confident and it’s…attractive.”
Does that ring any bells to anyone?
Now, a girl like that can sometimes be hard to find, but they are out there. Women are not as blind to what’s happening as some PUAs like to think. Every now and then you’ll get some obstacle with attitude who will say things like “Are you doing that just so you can touch her?” or “Did you do that on purpose just so we would ___”. It happens, and yet the set still continues and you still close. Why? Because some women get it (and just because they get what’s happening doesn’t mean that they don’t want it to happen). And having a woman understands how these things work as a wing-girl can open more doors than you would believe.
In summation:
- Always listen to what women have to say about men, but be sure to take it with a grain of salt and learn to read between the lines.
- Watch how AFCs interact with your female friends and how your female friends react in response and learn from it.
- Keep an eye out for that rare “aware” girl. They are learning goldmines.
Listen, learn, and always keep an open mind.
Happy sarging everyone!
Prophet
About Prophet
Prophet is a VA Coach operating out of Toronto. Aside from his work as an instructor/site admin for Venusian Arts, Prophet is a software consultant at a leading software development firm. In his spare time, he finances, writes, and produces independent films with his wingmen, Showcase and Wild Card.




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