The Venusian Arts » lovedrop http://www.venusianarts.com Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, from VH1’s The Pick-Up Artist | Author of The Mystery Method: How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed & THE PICKUP ARTIST: THE NEW AND IMPROVED ART OF SEDUCTION Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:09:36 +0000 en hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Discovery’s “Turbocharged” Game Explained http://www.venusianarts.com/discoverys-turbocharged-game-explained/ http://www.venusianarts.com/discoverys-turbocharged-game-explained/#comments Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:48:56 +0000 Mickey Angel http://www.venusianarts.com/?p=4177 discovery-mohawk-party-thumb

Can you stimulate a woman's emotions? At will? Do you know exactly what emotion she will feel when you do or say a certain thing? You should. Women are emotional creatures. Their emotions drive their behaviors. And if you can influence their emotions, you can in turn influence their behaviors. And this is one of the best-kept secrets in the community. In Revelation, Lovedrop writes about installing a set of emotions in a woman in a specific pattern. Those emotions, when installed, are likely to lead to a sexual relationship. In their most basic form the emotions are listed as Interest, Vibe, Attraction, Comfort and Seduction. A couple of pages later, Lovedrop explains an 11-step emotional progression that women tend to find especially stimulating. This article focuses on Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression, and how you as a PUA can lead women through this progression. The goal: Stimulate them where they really feel it…their emotions. Now, enter Discovery. If you’ve ever been to a bootcamp with Discovery you will learn very quickly that the man is all about action and results. His mantra: Hit, Intrigue and Attract. And this ultimately leads him to the Close. It’s a 4-step game that is simple and effective. And if you’ve ever been in the field with him, you’ll see that his actions get results. Discovery has developed some kick-ass pickup skills these skills make him a more effective PUA. My goal, and the goal of this article, is to better understand Discovery’s 4-step game when compared to Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. How can the two models – Discovery’s action-based field process and Lovedrop’s psychology-driven emotional progression – coexist in the same space? Are they the same? If not, how are they different? These are valid questions for the journeyman PUA, and my findings answer all of them. Part 1 of this article focuses on breaking down Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. A pickup artist running tight game will most likely be leading a woman through this progression without thinking about it. An AFC might stumble upon it from time-to-time without knowing what they are doing. (Remember the time you “got lucky”?) This article is good fundamental background reading for all PUA’s who have had some success in the field and understand the basic pickup process, but want to take their game to the next level. Additionally, if a PUA has a basic understanding of this emotional progression, it will be much easier to understand how Discovery’s 4-step game works so effectively. Author’s Note: **You do not have to understand how something works in order to use it. For those PUA’s who are more action-oriented: Cut to the chase and start practicing Discovery’s 4-step game immediately! There is no substitute for field work, and you can always come back to this article if you run into roadblocks, or perhaps even save up some coin and invest in one-on-one coaching with the Discovery himself  Part 2 focuses on viewing Discovery’s 4-step game in the context of Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. I will be comparing the two systems and showing you the similarities between both. You’ll see how Discovery’s game is simple and tight, and it still manages takes the woman through all 11 steps of LD’s progression, which is why it is so effective. Part 1: Lovedrop’s 11-step Emotional Progression Explained “Women are especially stimulated by this emotional progression” - Lovedrop, Revelation, p. 33 Author’s Note: **From a practical standpoint, this progression is a great guide to Text Game. You can literally print this out and use it as a script to guide your texts. Not a work for word script, but an outline to guide what you should say next. Try it! 1. Curiosity: For some reason, we are always comparing women to cats. Mystery even went so far as to develop a model called “cat-string theory”. Coincidence? I don’t think so. So just remember…any time you want to *ahem* attract a pussy, you have to make it curious. A well-delivered opener should accomplish this, as well as all the appropriate visual and behavioral cues (DHV’s) that lead up to that opener (Peacocking, Preselection, Leader of Men, Group Theory etc). Tactics: Disinterest, Group Theory, Visual DHV’s, Peacocking, Open Loops She should be thinking: “hmmm...this guy seems interesting” She should be feeling: Slightly curious 2. Intrigue: What exactly is intrigue? We all sort of feel what it means. But what does it actually mean? Intrigue (v): To arouse curiosity or interest by unusual, unique, new or otherwise fascinating qualities. By this definition, intrigue is really an extension of curiosity. What is it about you that makes you different from all the other guys? What qualities can you demonstrate that are unusual. What topics can you bring up that are new or otherwise fascinating? Think of intrigue as taking curiosity to a deeper level. When a cat is curious it sort of sniffs around. When a cat is intrigued, it puts its nose in it. Intrigue should be generated during the opener. This is why so many good openers that contain the so-called “chick crack” (dramatic and/or controversial subject matter, usually having to do with relationships) Tactics: Charismatic delivery, enthusiasm, artful selection of subject matter She should be thinking: “hmmm...very interesting...” She should be feeling: Like she wants to know more... 3. Tension: David DeAngelo, in his popular Cocky Comedy series, defines humor as the release of built-up tension. Tension is important, not only because it ultimately gets the group laughing, but because it can be used to build up sexual feeling. Adding tension to the group creates a kind of alpha male dynamic that lets the group know you are for real. You’re not just some clown, magician or entertainer. You’ve got an edge. Tactics: Disqualifiers, negs, roll-offs, open loops, dominance (AMOGing, Teasing), push-pull tactics She should be thinking: “hmmm...he’s got a little edge to him...” She should be feeling: a little bit of uncertainty, but also a little turned on 4. Humor: As we said before, humor can be defined as the release of built up tension. So if you’ve just built up some tension, you can now release it and generate some laughs. This is pretty easy once you get used to it. A few seconds of silence followed by a cocky-funny or absurd punchline is very effective. Tactics: Absurdities (from a DHV perspective), embarrassment, role playing, teasing, AMOGing She should be thinking: “this guy is funny!” She should be feeling: laughter 5. Fun: So now you’ve got them laughing, which by default means you’re fun. It’s time to vibe a little. Show them your carefree attitude. Smile, laugh, tell a couple of jokes, be fun. Did I mention smile? Smile! ? Tactics: Be able to be yourself and have a good time. Smile and laugh. Do a group cold-read or maybe introduce a fun group game like “Yes and…” or “The Lying Game” She should be thinking: “this guy is fun!” She should be feeling: a fun, warm carefree feeling 6. Attraction: Attraction is where the proverbial rubber meets the road. There are a ton of guys who can vibe and have a good time and be fun, but they never get laid. In order to get laid, you have to be attractive. How? In the words of Lovedrop: “Evolutionary value switches must be activated in order to stimulate this emotion” That means it’s time to tell your DHV story. She already thinks you’re interesting. She already thinks you’re funny. Now she needs to think you’re hot. Transition into the story by using a transition phrase like “Hey that reminds me of a time...” or “hey, get this...” Tactics: Transition phrases “That reminds me of a time...”, “Ohh, I’ve got to tell you about...”, “Hey get this...”, “You won’t believe it but...”. DHV stories: Have a default DHV story ready. Make sure it has at least 3 DHV spikes. Make sure it’s practiced and polished. Deliver it with confidence. She should be thinking: “this guy is hot” She should be feeling: attracted to you 7. Appreciation: If the girl is vibing with you, you should show her a little love. Otherwise you’ll never build that feeling of comfort that is so important. Start small and calibrate it. For example after you finish your story and she says something positive, reward her. Say something like “Wow you know I wasn’t sure about you when I met you get me. You are pretty cool.” And give her a high-five. You can also go into qualification, so you have to ask her some questions and appreciate her for the answer she gives, assuming she is giving you an answer that you want to hear. Thirdly, you can point out some intangible qualities and appreciate her for them, e.g. “You know you really have a great sense of style. So many people just don’t know how to dress, but you get it. Nice job” Then give her a little kino. When she sees you appreciate her she will know you are willing to commit value. This is a powerful connection switch. Tactics: Qualification, artful observation and appreciation of intangibles (like sense of style, classiness, willingness to take risks, etc). Fun and playful kino. (High fives, arm taps, arm over shoulder hugs) She should be thinking: This guy appreciates me for who I really am; he gets me She should be feeling: A growing sense of connection 8. Challenge: My first hot girlfriend in 9th grade told me this: “Women like a challenge”. This was mostly because at the time, I didn’t have the social intelligence to calibrate to her IOI’s. The upside was that everything I did came off as an IOD and it drive her crazy…at least for a while. And she chased me…for a while. At some point you need to show some IOI’s. A lot of less experienced PUA’s make the mistake of not showing any IOI’s and they wonder why the girl all of the sudden isn’t interested. The lesson: Women do love a challenge. And you, as the prize in this interaction, should challenge her, in a fun and playful way. Show her some love and then challenge again. She will chase you. And at the end of the day, that’s what we all really want, isn’t it? In the words of Lovedrop “Screen her, frame control her, compliance test her, bait her to chase you. Practice bait-hook-reel-release. Kino escalate” Tactics: Qualification, frame control, compliance testing, bait-hook-reel release, kino escalation She should be thinking: I don’t have this guy yet, but I can get him She should be feeling: A sense of challenge 9. Connection: Now she’s working for it, and it’s time to reward her compliance. Respond to her responses positively, demonstrating the six qualities listed below and you will flip her connection switches, and she will be drawn closer to you. The qualities you should demonstrate are as follows: 1. Understanding 2. Appreciation 3. Trust and comfort 4. Compatibility 5. Conspiracy 6. Vulnerability Tactics: Qualification, stories (childhood regression works especially well here), showing similar interests, comfort building routines such as The Cube, IOI’s. She should be thinking: I’m winning him over, and we have a lot in common! She should be feeling: Warm and connected. 10. Excitement: Too much connection with no stimulation and you will put her to sleep. Excite that girl! Revelation says little about this, which leaves it open to interpretation. Sexual excitement is the goal. It’s time to work in some heavier kino escalation routines. Find a way to kino escalate in a slightly erotic way, or at the very least, you should take on a little bit of a bad-boy demeanor and say something to make her blush. Style’s Evolution Phase Shift springs to mind here…Read: hand on back of head-hair-pulling action. Tactics: Role playing (with the proper sexual frame), being a little bit dirty, isolating for a quick kiss while preserving plausible deniability. “Stealing” kisses and touches. She should be thinking: I’m a little turned on She should be feeling: A little turned on 11. Fear of Loss: You can’t go all the way in a bar...generally speaking. You should only amp her excitement up enough to get her thinking about it. And when she’s thinking about it, that’s when you make her feel it. She has to be made to know that she absolutely wants you and she must have you. And that’s when, in my mind (and in hers), the seduction is complete. Tactics: Roll-offs, disinterest, jealousy plotlines She should be thinking: I want him She should be feeling: I want him Part 2: Discovery’s “Turbocharged” Game In this section of the Article, I’m going to explain how Discovery’s game, which comprises 4 steps, actually USES of Lovedrop’s 11 step emotional progression, but effectively turbocharges it, compressing it into a much shorter time span than the average game. Discovery says that you can go directly from attraction to qualification to seduction and eliminate most of the steps in between. How might this work based on what we learned in part 1? The key is sexual tension that is conveyed immediately through both body language, preselection, how much his girls are into him AND the conversational thread itself -- which typically conveys his sexuality. Additionally Discovery displays an almost clairvoyant understanding of his targets through psychological cold reads (it helps that he is a professional profiler). As Discovery himself says, his game is designed to “Hit, Intrigue and Attract”. And of course, this leads him to the shangri-la that all PUA's seek: Close. Let’s a closer look at each one of the four steps. 1. Open (Hit/Intrigue): Remember the mantra: “hit intrigue and attract” How is he able to do this? Avatar, vibe and violation. Picture Discovery rolling into the club with spiked bleached blond hair, wearing a kilt, carrying a dagger in his sock, surrounded by an entourage of people – usually women. Women flock to this energy. And Discovery, in turn, uses it to create a spectacle. Something out of the ordinary. And when he talks to girls, he VIOLATES. He will say things that no women has ever heard before. One of his most famous openers: “One finger or two.” [Pause] It’s calibrated of course, the delivery perfect. And anyone less than Discovery probably couldn’t get away with it. Discovery then masterfully breaks the tension with a smile-calibrated punchline. “I mean…we’re among friends here, right?” ? Everyone laughs. Back to the tension “but seriously…assuming you were appropriately lubed up....” Then he breaks the tension again, rolls off, makes a couple of more comments, smiles, touches, and lets everyone know he is a cool guy just out to have a good time. Total time: About 30 seconds. As he’s doing this, he’s being observed. And the cycle repeats itself. 2. DHV (Intrigue / Attract): In each set it is Discovery who decides whether he will stay or whether he will leave. There is value in opening, getting a reaction and rolling off, moving on to the next set. People see this and your social value goes up in their eyes. But…lets assume Discovery has chosen a target. After he opens, he immediately moves into his DHV story. Discovery generates massive attraction with his DHV stories because they are so well crafted and so well delivered. And, because he’s rolling in the entourage, and leading the entourage, he’s already demonstrating preselection and leader of men. In other words, his actions back up his words, giving the DHV spikes in his story even more credibility. Total time: About 1 minute. 3. Qualify (Attract): As soon as he finishes his DHV story, he transitions. And all of the sudden, Discovery is qualifying her into his sexual frame. Priming her for the kiss. He’s simultaneously appreciating her, challenging her and connecting with her, all at the same time. And let’s not forget the nonverbal cues. Discovery is a master of expression and he’ll be the first one to tell you that 55% of communication is non-verbal. Because he knows what he’s going for and he’s got the delivery (including body language) down cold, he’s extremely effective. 4. Close: Here is where Discovery generates excitement. It isn’t always the kiss. Sometimes it’s a feint towards a kiss. Then he’ll roll off at the last second before the target has a chance to roll off herself. Then he’ll go back in and build more sexual tension which generates excitement. He goes in, he rolls off, then back in, then roll off. It all happens in the space of a few seconds. Rolling off generates fear of loss on a subconscious level, pumping her buying temperature and attraction, which in turn allows Discovery to go back in and close the deal. Brilliant. Conclusion: Theory is useless without tactics. Tactics are nothing when not backed by theory. The knowledge and execution of both that drives success. Together they form an almost irresistible force, and when coupled with the other aspects of tight game (peacocking, rolling correctly, DHV behaviors, etc) help make Discovery one of the top Pickup artists in the world. If a PUA can learn Lovedrop’s theory and combine it with Discovery’s tactics, he will most definitely increase his skill set, and reap the benefits of being able to attract and seduce beautiful women more consistently, confidently and quickly then ever before.]]> discovery-mohawk-party-thumb

Can you stimulate a woman's emotions? At will? Do you know exactly what emotion she will feel when you do or say a certain thing? You should. Women are emotional creatures. Their emotions drive their behaviors. And if you can influence their emotions, you can in turn influence their behaviors. And this is one of the best-kept secrets in the community. In Revelation, Lovedrop writes about installing a set of emotions in a woman in a specific pattern. Those emotions, when installed, are likely to lead to a sexual relationship. In their most basic form the emotions are listed as Interest, Vibe, Attraction, Comfort and Seduction. A couple of pages later, Lovedrop explains an 11-step emotional progression that women tend to find especially stimulating. This article focuses on Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression, and how you as a PUA can lead women through this progression. The goal: Stimulate them where they really feel it…their emotions. Now, enter Discovery. If you’ve ever been to a bootcamp with Discovery you will learn very quickly that the man is all about action and results. His mantra: Hit, Intrigue and Attract. And this ultimately leads him to the Close. It’s a 4-step game that is simple and effective. And if you’ve ever been in the field with him, you’ll see that his actions get results. Discovery has developed some kick-ass pickup skills these skills make him a more effective PUA. My goal, and the goal of this article, is to better understand Discovery’s 4-step game when compared to Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. How can the two models – Discovery’s action-based field process and Lovedrop’s psychology-driven emotional progression – coexist in the same space? Are they the same? If not, how are they different? These are valid questions for the journeyman PUA, and my findings answer all of them. Part 1 of this article focuses on breaking down Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. A pickup artist running tight game will most likely be leading a woman through this progression without thinking about it. An AFC might stumble upon it from time-to-time without knowing what they are doing. (Remember the time you “got lucky”?) This article is good fundamental background reading for all PUA’s who have had some success in the field and understand the basic pickup process, but want to take their game to the next level. Additionally, if a PUA has a basic understanding of this emotional progression, it will be much easier to understand how Discovery’s 4-step game works so effectively. Author’s Note: **You do not have to understand how something works in order to use it. For those PUA’s who are more action-oriented: Cut to the chase and start practicing Discovery’s 4-step game immediately! There is no substitute for field work, and you can always come back to this article if you run into roadblocks, or perhaps even save up some coin and invest in one-on-one coaching with the Discovery himself  Part 2 focuses on viewing Discovery’s 4-step game in the context of Lovedrop’s 11-step emotional progression. I will be comparing the two systems and showing you the similarities between both. You’ll see how Discovery’s game is simple and tight, and it still manages takes the woman through all 11 steps of LD’s progression, which is why it is so effective. Part 1: Lovedrop’s 11-step Emotional Progression Explained “Women are especially stimulated by this emotional progression” - Lovedrop, Revelation, p. 33 Author’s Note: **From a practical standpoint, this progression is a great guide to Text Game. You can literally print this out and use it as a script to guide your texts. Not a work for word script, but an outline to guide what you should say next. Try it! 1. Curiosity: For some reason, we are always comparing women to cats. Mystery even went so far as to develop a model called “cat-string theory”. Coincidence? I don’t think so. So just remember…any time you want to *ahem* attract a pussy, you have to make it curious. A well-delivered opener should accomplish this, as well as all the appropriate visual and behavioral cues (DHV’s) that lead up to that opener (Peacocking, Preselection, Leader of Men, Group Theory etc). Tactics: Disinterest, Group Theory, Visual DHV’s, Peacocking, Open Loops She should be thinking: “hmmm...this guy seems interesting” She should be feeling: Slightly curious 2. Intrigue: What exactly is intrigue? We all sort of feel what it means. But what does it actually mean? Intrigue (v): To arouse curiosity or interest by unusual, unique, new or otherwise fascinating qualities. By this definition, intrigue is really an extension of curiosity. What is it about you that makes you different from all the other guys? What qualities can you demonstrate that are unusual. What topics can you bring up that are new or otherwise fascinating? Think of intrigue as taking curiosity to a deeper level. When a cat is curious it sort of sniffs around. When a cat is intrigued, it puts its nose in it. Intrigue should be generated during the opener. This is why so many good openers that contain the so-called “chick crack” (dramatic and/or controversial subject matter, usually having to do with relationships) Tactics: Charismatic delivery, enthusiasm, artful selection of subject matter She should be thinking: “hmmm...very interesting...” She should be feeling: Like she wants to know more... 3. Tension: David DeAngelo, in his popular Cocky Comedy series, defines humor as the release of built-up tension. Tension is important, not only because it ultimately gets the group laughing, but because it can be used to build up sexual feeling. Adding tension to the group creates a kind of alpha male dynamic that lets the group know you are for real. You’re not just some clown, magician or entertainer. You’ve got an edge. Tactics: Disqualifiers, negs, roll-offs, open loops, dominance (AMOGing, Teasing), push-pull tactics She should be thinking: “hmmm...he’s got a little edge to him...” She should be feeling: a little bit of uncertainty, but also a little turned on 4. Humor: As we said before, humor can be defined as the release of built up tension. So if you’ve just built up some tension, you can now release it and generate some laughs. This is pretty easy once you get used to it. A few seconds of silence followed by a cocky-funny or absurd punchline is very effective. Tactics: Absurdities (from a DHV perspective), embarrassment, role playing, teasing, AMOGing She should be thinking: “this guy is funny!” She should be feeling: laughter 5. Fun: So now you’ve got them laughing, which by default means you’re fun. It’s time to vibe a little. Show them your carefree attitude. Smile, laugh, tell a couple of jokes, be fun. Did I mention smile? Smile! ? Tactics: Be able to be yourself and have a good time. Smile and laugh. Do a group cold-read or maybe introduce a fun group game like “Yes and…” or “The Lying Game” She should be thinking: “this guy is fun!” She should be feeling: a fun, warm carefree feeling 6. Attraction: Attraction is where the proverbial rubber meets the road. There are a ton of guys who can vibe and have a good time and be fun, but they never get laid. In order to get laid, you have to be attractive. How? In the words of Lovedrop: “Evolutionary value switches must be activated in order to stimulate this emotion” That means it’s time to tell your DHV story. She already thinks you’re interesting. She already thinks you’re funny. Now she needs to think you’re hot. Transition into the story by using a transition phrase like “Hey that reminds me of a time...” or “hey, get this...” Tactics: Transition phrases “That reminds me of a time...”, “Ohh, I’ve got to tell you about...”, “Hey get this...”, “You won’t believe it but...”. DHV stories: Have a default DHV story ready. Make sure it has at least 3 DHV spikes. Make sure it’s practiced and polished. Deliver it with confidence. She should be thinking: “this guy is hot” She should be feeling: attracted to you 7. Appreciation: If the girl is vibing with you, you should show her a little love. Otherwise you’ll never build that feeling of comfort that is so important. Start small and calibrate it. For example after you finish your story and she says something positive, reward her. Say something like “Wow you know I wasn’t sure about you when I met you get me. You are pretty cool.” And give her a high-five. You can also go into qualification, so you have to ask her some questions and appreciate her for the answer she gives, assuming she is giving you an answer that you want to hear. Thirdly, you can point out some intangible qualities and appreciate her for them, e.g. “You know you really have a great sense of style. So many people just don’t know how to dress, but you get it. Nice job” Then give her a little kino. When she sees you appreciate her she will know you are willing to commit value. This is a powerful connection switch. Tactics: Qualification, artful observation and appreciation of intangibles (like sense of style, classiness, willingness to take risks, etc). Fun and playful kino. (High fives, arm taps, arm over shoulder hugs) She should be thinking: This guy appreciates me for who I really am; he gets me She should be feeling: A growing sense of connection 8. Challenge: My first hot girlfriend in 9th grade told me this: “Women like a challenge”. This was mostly because at the time, I didn’t have the social intelligence to calibrate to her IOI’s. The upside was that everything I did came off as an IOD and it drive her crazy…at least for a while. And she chased me…for a while. At some point you need to show some IOI’s. A lot of less experienced PUA’s make the mistake of not showing any IOI’s and they wonder why the girl all of the sudden isn’t interested. The lesson: Women do love a challenge. And you, as the prize in this interaction, should challenge her, in a fun and playful way. Show her some love and then challenge again. She will chase you. And at the end of the day, that’s what we all really want, isn’t it? In the words of Lovedrop “Screen her, frame control her, compliance test her, bait her to chase you. Practice bait-hook-reel-release. Kino escalate” Tactics: Qualification, frame control, compliance testing, bait-hook-reel release, kino escalation She should be thinking: I don’t have this guy yet, but I can get him She should be feeling: A sense of challenge 9. Connection: Now she’s working for it, and it’s time to reward her compliance. Respond to her responses positively, demonstrating the six qualities listed below and you will flip her connection switches, and she will be drawn closer to you. The qualities you should demonstrate are as follows: 1. Understanding 2. Appreciation 3. Trust and comfort 4. Compatibility 5. Conspiracy 6. Vulnerability Tactics: Qualification, stories (childhood regression works especially well here), showing similar interests, comfort building routines such as The Cube, IOI’s. She should be thinking: I’m winning him over, and we have a lot in common! She should be feeling: Warm and connected. 10. Excitement: Too much connection with no stimulation and you will put her to sleep. Excite that girl! Revelation says little about this, which leaves it open to interpretation. Sexual excitement is the goal. It’s time to work in some heavier kino escalation routines. Find a way to kino escalate in a slightly erotic way, or at the very least, you should take on a little bit of a bad-boy demeanor and say something to make her blush. Style’s Evolution Phase Shift springs to mind here…Read: hand on back of head-hair-pulling action. Tactics: Role playing (with the proper sexual frame), being a little bit dirty, isolating for a quick kiss while preserving plausible deniability. “Stealing” kisses and touches. She should be thinking: I’m a little turned on She should be feeling: A little turned on 11. Fear of Loss: You can’t go all the way in a bar...generally speaking. You should only amp her excitement up enough to get her thinking about it. And when she’s thinking about it, that’s when you make her feel it. She has to be made to know that she absolutely wants you and she must have you. And that’s when, in my mind (and in hers), the seduction is complete. Tactics: Roll-offs, disinterest, jealousy plotlines She should be thinking: I want him She should be feeling: I want him Part 2: Discovery’s “Turbocharged” Game In this section of the Article, I’m going to explain how Discovery’s game, which comprises 4 steps, actually USES of Lovedrop’s 11 step emotional progression, but effectively turbocharges it, compressing it into a much shorter time span than the average game. Discovery says that you can go directly from attraction to qualification to seduction and eliminate most of the steps in between. How might this work based on what we learned in part 1? The key is sexual tension that is conveyed immediately through both body language, preselection, how much his girls are into him AND the conversational thread itself -- which typically conveys his sexuality. Additionally Discovery displays an almost clairvoyant understanding of his targets through psychological cold reads (it helps that he is a professional profiler). As Discovery himself says, his game is designed to “Hit, Intrigue and Attract”. And of course, this leads him to the shangri-la that all PUA's seek: Close. Let’s a closer look at each one of the four steps. 1. Open (Hit/Intrigue): Remember the mantra: “hit intrigue and attract” How is he able to do this? Avatar, vibe and violation. Picture Discovery rolling into the club with spiked bleached blond hair, wearing a kilt, carrying a dagger in his sock, surrounded by an entourage of people – usually women. Women flock to this energy. And Discovery, in turn, uses it to create a spectacle. Something out of the ordinary. And when he talks to girls, he VIOLATES. He will say things that no women has ever heard before. One of his most famous openers: “One finger or two.” [Pause] It’s calibrated of course, the delivery perfect. And anyone less than Discovery probably couldn’t get away with it. Discovery then masterfully breaks the tension with a smile-calibrated punchline. “I mean…we’re among friends here, right?” ? Everyone laughs. Back to the tension “but seriously…assuming you were appropriately lubed up....” Then he breaks the tension again, rolls off, makes a couple of more comments, smiles, touches, and lets everyone know he is a cool guy just out to have a good time. Total time: About 30 seconds. As he’s doing this, he’s being observed. And the cycle repeats itself. 2. DHV (Intrigue / Attract): In each set it is Discovery who decides whether he will stay or whether he will leave. There is value in opening, getting a reaction and rolling off, moving on to the next set. People see this and your social value goes up in their eyes. But…lets assume Discovery has chosen a target. After he opens, he immediately moves into his DHV story. Discovery generates massive attraction with his DHV stories because they are so well crafted and so well delivered. And, because he’s rolling in the entourage, and leading the entourage, he’s already demonstrating preselection and leader of men. In other words, his actions back up his words, giving the DHV spikes in his story even more credibility. Total time: About 1 minute. 3. Qualify (Attract): As soon as he finishes his DHV story, he transitions. And all of the sudden, Discovery is qualifying her into his sexual frame. Priming her for the kiss. He’s simultaneously appreciating her, challenging her and connecting with her, all at the same time. And let’s not forget the nonverbal cues. Discovery is a master of expression and he’ll be the first one to tell you that 55% of communication is non-verbal. Because he knows what he’s going for and he’s got the delivery (including body language) down cold, he’s extremely effective. 4. Close: Here is where Discovery generates excitement. It isn’t always the kiss. Sometimes it’s a feint towards a kiss. Then he’ll roll off at the last second before the target has a chance to roll off herself. Then he’ll go back in and build more sexual tension which generates excitement. He goes in, he rolls off, then back in, then roll off. It all happens in the space of a few seconds. Rolling off generates fear of loss on a subconscious level, pumping her buying temperature and attraction, which in turn allows Discovery to go back in and close the deal. Brilliant. Conclusion: Theory is useless without tactics. Tactics are nothing when not backed by theory. The knowledge and execution of both that drives success. Together they form an almost irresistible force, and when coupled with the other aspects of tight game (peacocking, rolling correctly, DHV behaviors, etc) help make Discovery one of the top Pickup artists in the world. If a PUA can learn Lovedrop’s theory and combine it with Discovery’s tactics, he will most definitely increase his skill set, and reap the benefits of being able to attract and seduce beautiful women more consistently, confidently and quickly then ever before.]]> http://www.venusianarts.com/discoverys-turbocharged-game-explained/feed/ 2 The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction http://www.venusianarts.com/the-pickup-artist-the-new-and-improved-art-of-seduction-2/ http://www.venusianarts.com/the-pickup-artist-the-new-and-improved-art-of-seduction-2/#comments Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:06:22 +0000 Lovedrop http://www.venusianarts.com/?p=3272

The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction

The Pick-Up Artist 2 (tv show) is a reality show on VH1 and iTunes, starring our very own Mystery and Matador. (Click for full article.)

The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction (the book) is our new release from Villard books, by Mystery, author of The Mystery Method: How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed, and Lovedrop, author of Revelation.

Coming off the success of his first bestselling book, The Mystery Method: How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed, Mystery once again teams up with writer Chris Odom to "impart some pearls of wisdom," and this time, he has quite a story to tell. Just as his VH1 reality show The Pickup Artist is about to debut in the United States, Mystery and his crew have withdrawn to their gorgeous Miami mansion to get into shape and plot their next move. A one-on-one pua student, Adam, comes to stay at the house and get his every question answered. As a kaleidoscope of crazy pua characters enlivens the scene, Mystery begins to draw Adam deeper and deeper into his world, where he witnesses firsthand the pitfalls of the pickup artist lifestyle, and gains an intimate portrait of Mystery's ideas and struggles. Eventually Adam must decide whether the powers of the pua game are worth the surreal lifestyle that comes along with it. As the book progresses, Mystery and his partners, Lovedrop and Matador, travel from the sands of South Beach to the strip clubs of Las Vegas, criss-crossing the country to teach their seminars on pickup and seduction. They party in the Hollywood Hills, set up their own Pleasure Bubble, and taste the high life among the towering skyscrapers of Manhattan. Along the way, Mystery reveals the next level of game theory and technique, designed to catapult timid and insecure men into a world of confidence, attractiveness, and all-around success with women. Mystery serves another rich helping of knowledge this go-around, for those readers seeking his techniques…

• A list of all the triggers that create—and destroy—attraction

• A new way to approach strangers and start a conversation: microcalibrated openers

• Mystery’s most powerful humor technique, The Absurd—so you’ll never run out of things to say again

• A full chapter on physical escalation (touching, kissing, “making a move”)

• The solution to inner-game issues, for improved confidence

• A chapter on exotic dancers and strip clubs

• How to set up your pimp pad

• Mystery's philosophy on life

• Plenty of gambits

• And much, much more…

When it comes time for Mystery to reveal the secrets of physical escalation (touching, kissing, 'making a move') he says,

"Physical escalation is actually quite easy. Just read along with me, and I will show you how. Just do what I say and it will work. Don’t worry, it’s easy, and the moves I’m going to teach you will not get you rejected. Trust me, it’s fun and you can stop anytime. Now, let’s get right into it…"

With all the good advice in this book, Valentine's day is sure to be just a little less lonely this year. We didn't know it could be so easy, Mystery. Thanks for all the good work. The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction, by Mystery with Chris Odom. Foreword by Neil Strauss, author of The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists. Also by Mystery: The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed

          Click here for more information on The Pickup Artist book…

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This should have been titled “All Instructors in LA Bootcamp.” Everyone was there except Hawaii that I have read about either from reviews or the forums. I mean, Kosmo and Joe D. from Season 1 of the Pickup Artist and Simeon, Greg and Brian from Season 2 were all there to help out, both in the classroom setting, as well as in-field. There was something to be learned from each and every one of them, and they are all very good.

The Classroom:

In the classroom settings you get two sessions with each instructor, Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop; one one each day. The guys always run over the alloted time but that’s just because they have so much to teach and there isn’t nearly enough time for it all. At one point Mystery asked one of the other guys “are we making a schedule or running a bootcamp?” They want to make sure that they can instill every piece of knowledge possible in the time they have. I will do my best to touch on the ideas without saying too much, you have to see these guys explain it. It’s the difference from reading it to seeing it done.

Mystery’s classroom sessions included an indepth overview of the process and then an expanded session on the qualification step of the method. Mystery has so much information in his head that he cannot stop teaching. His teachings are thorough and very easy follow. He teaches the basic method that most everyone out there uses as the foundation for other methods or styles. Which is not entirely basic but it is easiest for an AFC to follow.

Lovedrop’s classroom experience is interesting as well because he openly admits that he knows he has to take most of the people in the classroom out that very same night and he teaches what will have the biggest impact on the students the quickest. That’s not to say that he isn’t thorough, it’s just that through experience, he’s learned what has the fastest results from the classroom to the in-field experience. I have also read where people are comming down on Lovedrop because he says “Mystery would say…” that’s because the process is so internalized for all of the instructors that in order to teach it, they have to actively think about what they do and what is the best way to teach it. As as I just said, the “basic” method that Mystery teaches is the one that gets the best results from the students the quickest. Lovedrop covers the inner game as well as kino escalation. The biggest thing I took away from his sessions is the ability to help control approach anxiety.

Matador’s classroom time was entirely different. He explains early on that he uses a different process than the other guys. He also explains that he goes through all of the method’s steps from A1 to C1 in a matter of seconds. It’s just all in how he calibrates and executes. His biggest topic is attraction. The so-called Matador Mayhem is based around sexual tension and is amazing. This guy has a way of breaking down what he does and how it works so that even an AFC could at least, attempt to do what he does.

Discovery dosn’t spend too much time with the students in the classroom. He is the one who debriefs with the students and he help fine tune what he saw in-field. He has a charisma about he that he passes on to the students in the delivery of the material. I wish we had more time with this guy, because he has a lot to offer the community.

The Pickup Artist guys all came in and joined us when it was time to breakup into smaller groups to practice the material and delivery. They are exponentially better than they were even at the end of the TV show. They help you with the details, from body language to vocal tonality and they can help out a lot because they have all been where all of us were before.

All of these guys have a way of explaining and breaking down things so that you not only know what to do, but know why it works so that you can apply it to yourself and your avatar and lifestyle. These guys tell you that the canned material they give you should only be used about 6 weeks then you should be able to come up with your own material. This is why the way that they teach is so effective.

In-Field:

I’m not sure I can explain the in-field experience better than anyone else, so I’ll just give a quick recap of what I experienced. First off, the first night they got us into the VIP room of the hottest club in LA. Now this was no easy task, there were over 20 guys and maybe 4 women in the group, so they pulled some strings to make that happen,a nd it was worth it. There were celebrities, reality TV personalities and prettymuch, you had to be somebody to be there, and we got to practice in that atmosphere. MikeyVegas was dead on when he said we owned the club, and that every guy wanted to be us and every girl wanted to be with us.

Mystery was working his game and it was amazing to watch. The instructors told us that is we see them do something and want to know how they did it, to go up to them and just ask and they will reverse engineer it for us, because just about everything they do is internallized and so it is an unconsious process most of the time for them.

Matador was amazing. He would grab some strange, beautiful girl and simply say, “Here let me introduce you to my friend,” to the girl then pass her off on to the students. Set open. Now don’t get me wrong, it didn’t always work with every girl but I was still in awe of what could be done with practice.
Lovedrop has a style his own in the club. There’s not a funnier guy to watch. He was just himself, but by being himself he demonstrated qualities that women respond to. And he teaches the students how to do the same. He helped me out several times, one especially where I got in my own headspace, he helped me get back to normal and begin opening sets again.

The pivots are phenominal. It’s hard not to look good when Kacey and Erica and the other girls are there with you. They have been doing this for a long time and know exactly when to DHV you and when you whisper in your ear infront of your set. They can do it all. When I wasn’t in set, I went back to find one of the pivots to get my head straight and they would help me open a set. I can’t say enough about the girls.
The Pickup Artist guys were also out there to help out. I’ll be honest, Kosmo is the man. He would drag me into set after set and he was amazing. It was great to hear some of the same lines that I had just learned, used by him and see that they work and what reaction you will get with them. Greg, from season 2 was also an all-star in-field. He seemed to always know just when to join me in a 2 set to help me isolate, and he knew just how to do it also. I spent a little time with all of the guys, but Kosmo and Greg were the two that really took me under their wing.

I hate to admit but I didn’t see Discovery too much in-field. I would have liked to have seen him at work a bit more. What I did see looked amazing, he was always in set and seemed to always isolate quickly. When I did speak to him, he was very good about fine tuning what he had seen me do. So he was paying attention to me and saw me more than I saw him, because he was always spot on with the advice.

Like I said much earlier in this review. Mystery never stops teaching. On our way out of the clubs, he was breaking down a set he worked, or a set he saw us in, or what we can do next time to make a set work for us. He is a machine. A fountain of knowledge, and all you have to do is listen and pay attention and he will teach you.

Breakout Sessions:

This will be a quick one. The breakout sessions are like Grad school for college. I attended all of them and they fine tune what you ahve spent the pervious two days learning. It’s like specializing in each field. Each instructor has an area where they excell and this is the time for them to teach you how and why.
Matador said it best at the end of the bootcamp. “I’ve taught you everything I know. Now it’s your turn to go out there and apply it and make it yours.”

This was an experience that I will never forget and learned an immense amount from. I can garuntee that I will be practicing what they have taught us and will utilize it in all aspects of my life, not just for picking up women. I know this was a lengthy review and if you’ve read it this far, I thank you. Again, like MikeyVegas, I did this review as much for myself as I did for the readers. I built a bond with the other guys in the camp as well as the instructors. And I know this may be too detailed a post, so if it need be ammended by an administrator, then please feel free. I got my thought out and thats a huge step towards internalizing the material. Thanks everyone for everything, and if you were there, please let me know if this is similar to your experience, or different, because I want to know everything I missed.

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Craig once said that “It’s Always On.” My thoughts on this (why it is true) are,

While gaming, whenever escalation is possible, continue escalating AS A RULE. Ignore her non-committal behavior; she WILL act non-committal in order to handle her own ASD. She has to do this (explained below.) Just continue to plow in a non-needy way.

Women will act non-committal due to the sexual non-responsibility rule (a.k.a ASD), but subject to appropriate gaming they will continue to display passive IOIs such as allowing the gaming to continue, and allowing escalation (but acting like it’s weird in order to avoid responsibility/ASD.)

Have you ever been gaming a girl, and she has a weird smile on her face, with her eyebrows up, like she thinks you’re being weird? But at the same time, she continues to show passive IOIs. And also she doesn’t contribute that much, forcing you to carry most of the interaction. But she goes along with it. Players can miscalibrate this because of her weird look and her non-investment, they decide that she is being “a bitch” and they say “whatever fuck it then, I don’t care” when they actually could have kept plowing and got the girl.

This is interesting because ASD theory thus predicts the necessity of plowing. Plowing is also the accepted solution to token resistance, which is itself merely a more energetic form of this same passive IOI mechanism. Thus Token Resistance can be interpreted as an IOI. If she feels it necessary to begin avoiding responsibility for something that she feels inside, and she telegraphs this feeling via token resistance behavior, can’t we then take it as an indicator?

Some new terms:

Predictive Resistance: This is similar to token resistance, except she volunteers it without prompting. (Usually token resistance is thought of as a RESPONSE to some compliance test from the player.) Example: “I hope you know we’re not having sex tonight.” Why would she say this unless she is feeling ASD? And if I am not currently escalating, how does she feel ASD? Because she is getting excited and thus feels the need to avoid responsibility for it. This is how ASD gets activated. This is also WHY we have traditionally known that predictive resistance is actually an IOI from the girl. Girls don’t say that sort of thing to beggars on the street. They say it to hot guys when they are sitting on their couch together.

This is also why false disqualifiers work…because they eliminate her need to avoid responsibility and thus DEACTIVATE ASD.

Plowing is necessary yet so is flipping the script. You must do both.

Indicators: There are IOIs and IODs. Are there also IOQs? I.e. indicator of qualification. If there are reliable indicators for various other aspects of the game, such as the above-described “passive ioi / asd” indicator then perhaps we can improve intuitive accuracy. There must be entire classes of indicators and common confusions that occur.

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Eventually she opened up when I was just being myself and having fun,
***being persistent and smiling was key.

Formula: Due to previously discussed “act like you’re weird but give passive IOIs” mechanism, smile (relaxed, no big deal, being myself, unreactive) while plowing (90% rule) and using positive misinterpretation. Actually just viewing everything through the most positive frame possible.

This still gives room for routines (such as an opening stack) and calibration (such as negs and kino plowing.)

Everything else still applies…use DHVs, use false disqualifiers, kino escalate, get investment and qualify her, etc.
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TRY sarging from the frame of mingling, or spidering, where you’re not necessarily trying to pickup but only trying to meet high-value people and add them to your social circle.

ALSO try doing this but ALSO doing pickup as well. Doing jealousy, etc.

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Violation theory / ethics

Often we can violate social norms in the field, for the sake of practice or experimentation, and this is part of the learning process. In fact this is important for learning more about how social interaction really works, and we must feel dispassionate. But in the long term, we still must be aware of social norms and how they affect our game – we have to “surf the wave” and think intelligently about how to exploit these mechanisms, and not hide behind an “I don’t give a fuck” attitude. This becomes ESPECIALLY RELEVANT when you begin to focus more on social circle game and less on cold approach game. You only live once!

When someone comes in your set, and is nice to you, without making social errors, then you are a violator if you are rude or cruel to him. If his frame is really weak, then he will still lose. But if he has a strong frame and is unreactive, then he will win, since YOU are the one who is in violation. You are the one who was being mean.

Conversely, if you go into someone else’s set, and you are nice, without making social errors, then the set is under a certain social obligation to show basic politeness. They can’t just ignore you. At this point you can just plow.

Why is this important? Because this ethical rule seems to be in operation socially, whether people see it or not. And because there is power to be derived: There is no longer any social obligation to be polite once someone has become a violator. If you enter a guy’s set politely, and the guy is rudely amoging you without provocation, he is a violator and you can now just ignore him like he’s not there. The more he reacts after that, the more his value drops while yours goes up. You couldn’t have previously ignored him if he hadn’t been rude – since that would have turned YOU into a violator.

There has been an important question related to AMOG tactics for a while now. The question is, if I am AMOGing the guy, aren’t I becoming more and more reactive to him, thus giving him power? AMOG lines are cool, but “less is more”…etc. Calibration is important:
— You can just AMOG him. You MUST calibrate that he will knuckle under your frame before you attempt this.
— If you miscalibrate and he retains a strong frame and positive attitude, then he wins. You are now in violation and he can ignore you.
— Instead of attacking him, you can BAIT him to try to AMOG you. (People have previously used these terms interchangeably, but I am now suggesting that there is a difference.) If he does, he is now a violator and you can ignore him. Most people will fall for this, this is why classical AMOG theory works. This is the mechanism being exploited. If he doesn’t take the bait, you are still in the game since you only baited and you never actually violated. But you lost a little “social energy”. The more obvious it becomes that you are baiting him, the more you are REACTING to him. The less he takes the bait, the more YOU are becoming REACTIVE to HIM.
A piece of violation theory (or “ethical theory”) thus becomes the ability to bait people into making social errors. People will often hang themselves without your help. Other people need some rope. If you can bait people into violating (or DLVing which I think is slightly different. A DLV is a social error but a social error is not a DLV.) If you can bait people into violating, then the rules now apply: I can ignore the person without become a violator myself. My value will continue to rise and his will continue to drop. This will also generate attraction in nearby females. Useful?
I think that girls are really good at this. Stupid girls just violate (they can get away with some degree of this but they lose power as a result). But girls with social skills will bait other people to violate. Or even worse: set a double-bind frame and so NO MATTER what you do, you just hung yourself.

This is interesting as well: if she sets a double-bind frame where I will lose, and I don’t come up with a good comeback (reframe), then I will also lose. The fact that I was silent subcommunicates that I couldn’t think of a good response, making me the loser in the battle of the wits. It is also implicitly interpreted by her that her frame must have been correct, that I AM a violator, and that I had nothing to say in my own defense. She can now ignore me AND continue dropping my value if I stick around (due to violation theory.)

POSITIVE MISINTERPRETATION
This shows why frame control is so important, why I must always have a good answer to a shit test. She is baiting me to disqualify myself. And not only must I have a good answer, but I must be totally friendly and nice and unreactive. Even if she is non-responsive, or acts like I’m weird, or challenges me, I mustn’t be rude, unfriendly, or angry/reactive, because that is exactly what she is baiting me to do. For the sole purpose of making me a VIOLATOR so that she can blow me out without becoming a violator herself. Notice that when your value is low, girls will get really impatient and try to pick fights so that they have moral justification to blow you out. Girls will also do this when they want to end a relationship. Again, this all stems from the “no responsibility” rule.

How to get to her WITHOUT VIOLATING.
— Be friendly and nice, without “crossing that line” of being mean to someone, while simultaneously plowing and interpreting everything in a positive way. Do NOT get reactive or you lose. Just act like nothing is a big deal, keep plowing and being yourself, and don’t violate social norms.
— Neg. Perhaps this is why Negs have been so hard to understand. I can define a neg as something that conveys disinterest, while simultaneously NOT crossing a violation line. If I say, “I hate you, you fucking bitch” then I have conveyed disinterest. But I have also disqualified myself by violating. Now I’m creepy and people can ignore me without feeling guilty. She’s looking to screen me out anyway, early on especially, so I basically just made it easy for her. (Some guys walk away from this sort of thing saying, “Whatever, I don’t care. I really don’t give a fuck.” It’s good to not give a fuck. But that attitude should be combined with the social intelligence not to make social errors and get yourself disqualified. We are playing to win, so don’t deliberately hang yourself. People WILL give you the rope – watch out for it. They are baiting you.)
Negs allow me to do very useful things (frame control, false disqualifiers, emotional stimulation, comfort building, value subcommunication) while simultaneously NOT crossing the violation boundary and getting disqualified. I’m still friendly and unreactive. I’m not a violator. And as long as I keep plowing, she can’t blow me out.

This may be what people are talking about when they say that people can’t blow them out of set anymore.

Ways that SHE will try to BAIT YOU to violate
— Her friend runs over and they scream and hug. Now they have created a new shared frame together. If I bust in, in a reactive way, I am now a violator. If I stand there like a dork, I feel stupid and start to panic. The social pressure is building on me…I can’t leave and I can’t stay. Eventually I slink away. Notice that Mystery‘s solution FOLLOWS SOCIAL NORMS: First you cut your thread (appropriate) then you ask the target to introduce the obstacle (appropriate)
— Her friend is rude to you. You are rude to her friend. Now the target can treat you like a violator and it’s “not her fault.” Don’t take the bait.
— “Well thanks for coming over to say hi, it was really nice to meet you.”
— “Um, we haven’t seen each other in a long time; we’re having a really important conversation right now.”
— These are interesting because now if I stay, I am a violator EVEN IF I CONTINUE TO BE NICE. They have set the frame that merely being there makes me a violator. In my experience, the best solution here is a massive value demonstrator combined with a false disqualifier: “Oh we’re actually on our way over to Skybar, I just wanted to stop and say hi first…” (stack forward.) ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS?
— Another suggestion for this, of course, is to come in with massive value and a false time constraint in the FIRST PLACE, so they don’t bait me in this way. For example, you get a lot less of this bullshit if you have first been building your value in the room, for example by parading a hot girl around. Ever notice that the other sets open easier once you have been parading a hot girl around?
Interesting: When Mystery handles an interrupt, he reminds the target that it’s “the polite thing to do” to introduce him to the obstacle. Now she has to do it, she would be a VIOLATOR if she didn’t. So she does. Interesting that she can PRETEND she didn’t think of it and absolve herself of responsibility. If she leaves you standing there and you eventually leave, it’s still “not her fault.” But once you make it explicit that she’s being rude, now she HAS to follow social norms, so she does. There are thus cases where you can use your knowledge of social norms to force people to comply with them where they might normally pretend they didn’t notice. This is why social norms are so interesting – because people DO follow them, whether they have full knowledge of them or not. But having that knowledge gives you an edge.
— Also interesting: If I explicitly voice a secret society rule or understanding, I HAVE committed a violation. BUT I can act as if I didn’t notice it and still get away with it. Other people nearby can ignore it and it will go away. But if someone says “but of course” he is pointing that that I am a violator, that I have made explicit something that people prefer to assume. This is because people like to act Secret Society, without being made RESPONSIBLE for it, by pretending they don’t know. When I point it out explicitly, they can no longer pretend, and thus they are forced to deny their own behavior and to pay lip service to social programming. I have become a PARTY POOPER – a VIOLATOR. I have already fucked up. But by saying “but of course” the person has now made my fuckup clear and my lack of social intelligence is now evident. DON’T TALK ABOUT THE SECRET SOCIETY. Remember one of the rules of the Secret Society is that you don’t talk about it. Talking about it implies that you aren’t familiar with the rule, and thus you must NOT BE A MEMBER.
— Thus the strategy should always be to ASSUME the secret society is true, and escalate accordingly, while simultaneously pretending that it’s not true and also paying lip service to the typical social programming.

— The phrase “it’d be rude not to.” This phrase absolves yourself of responsibility by implying that you would be a violator if you did anything else. Remember, people can’t blame you if there is a higher authority. This phrase uses social norms as a higher authority.
— Interesting that the phrase can ALSO be used in cases where it’s NOT LOGICALLY TRUE, but will still have the same effect regardless. The more obvious it becomes that the phrase is actually not appropriate, the more funny it becomes when you use the phrase. What is the tie-in here with humor?

Are there ways to get rid of someone WITHOUT using violation theory?
— can’t think of one

This could be really important.

Some general principles:
— Don’t ever violate a social norm since it causes you to lose power. (Unless you are doing some specific practice or experimentation.) Always keep the “high ground” morally. Always be unreactive, friendly – and plow.
— If someone BAITS you, continue to be unreactive, friendly, and plow.
— If someone VIOLATES you, you can now AMOG and IGNORE him without becoming a violator. Ignore is preferable since it is less reactive. A single good AMOG line can be useful as well depending on context.
— You can also BAIT someone into violating. If he takes the bait, he is now a violator and the above now applies.
— If he doesn’t take the bait, then calibrate: Can you bait him again? If you keep it up, he will gain an edge because you are reacting slightly more. The most you can do beyond this is just be unreactive, friendly, plow, and ignore him as much as possible without going into violation.
— If you can calibrate that the person has a weak frame, you can just violate him and retain the stronger frame. But beware: now all of his friends, some of whom may be socially more intelligent than him, can ignore you and get away with it.

Back to this paragraph:
Have you ever been gaming a girl, and she has a weird smile on her face, with her eyebrows up a bit, like she thinks you’re being weird? But at the same time, she continues to show passive IOIs. And also she doesn’t contribute that much, forcing you to carry most of the interaction. But she goes along with it. Players can miscalibrate this because of her weird look and her non-investment, they decide that she is being “a bitch” and they say “whatever fuck it then, I don’t care” when they actually could have kept plowing.

What’s really going on is that she uses her facial expression to set a frame that you are weird. This absolves her of responsibility of what is happening (so she can allow it to continue.) Unfortunately, this also baits the PLAYER to become a violator. “I’m not BEING weird, but she’s ACTING like I’m weird. What a BITCH!” If you aren’t socially intelligent, you will take the “bait” that she was “rude” to you, and thus you will be rude back to her. Once you do this:
— IN YOUR MIND: She was rude for no reason, therefore I was rude back. Whatever. Fuck her. I don’t care. Women are bitches.
— IN HER MIND: I didn’t do anything wrong. He was being weird to me and then he was being rude to me so I filtered him out. Just another loser.

A guy with a stronger frame will remain unreactive to her bait and friendly, and will never go into violation and won’t get screened out. He can’t get blown out. Now all he has to do is continue stimulating her emotions and DHVing. The best part is that the unreactive, friendly part is a DHV in-and-of-itself.

So she is selecting for strength. Is she trying to blow me out or trying to get with me? BOTH. One or the other will work, either outcome is fine with her. It’s not her fault either way. I COULD interpret that she is blowing me out, and I’d be RIGHT. I could get all reactive about this. Or I COULD interpret that it is ON and that she is testing for strength. And I would be RIGHT in this case as well. It is my own value and my own subcommunications that determine which way she will interpret it. NOT — HER — FAULT.

Other concepts:
Different violations, and different baits, have differing levels of plausible deniability.
Some violations only exist if they are pointed out (“Introduce me to your friend, it’s the polite thing to do.”)
Some baits are more or less reactive. If it isn’t obvious that I’m baiting (“thanks for stopping by!”) then I retain plausible deniability while simultaneously forcing the person to become a violator if they stay. I don’t come off as reactive. If it IS obvious that I’m baiting (“oh that’s a really nice coat you got there. You from the CIRCUS?”) then I’m also perceived as more reactive. If I continue baiting in this way I will become the more reactive one and eventually lose. This is why, when AMOGing, “less is more.” I gave myself less plausible deniability.
— Always maximize my own plausible deniability, and that of my target, while minimizing that of rival players and AMOGs.

“Can I have a light?” is a great opener (I got the idea from Christophe). It ties in here because it’s a socially reasonable request, and makes the person look like a jerk if they don’t give you compliance. This is why it’s better to use small hoops early on…because the smaller the hoop, the more of a violator the person appears to be if they defy.

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