Routine Stacking in A1 and A2
June 22, 2009 by Caddy
Filed under Featured Articles, Pick Up Lines and Routines
Whilst opinions differ on the value of having a ‘Routine Stack’ (a structured list of routines), and the mere topic often promotes debate within the pick up community, I personally found having a stack really helped my development in game. For me it was useful to have early Instant Value Demonstration (IVD) and DHV material scripted in a logical order and ready to go, freeing me up to concentrate on my body language, kino, compliance testing and the development of calibration skills.
As my game improved I moved away from stacks, but I still consider them to be a particularly useful development tool for the beginner and intermediate PUA. In fact a year or two back I began to insist that all my new 1 on 1 students developed personalized stacks before I took them infield. This ensured I could concentrate on their key development areas without the variability of them throwing in routines in a random (and sometimes inappropriate / inefficient / illogical) order. This approach tended to work very well for them, so my support for stack use was reinforced.
A well thought out stack can provide rapid DHV uploads, include multi-threading, boost buying temperature, initiate kino, and test compliance all within a short time period and often without doing too much thinking. This is one of the key reasons stacks are useful for those progressing in game. Ever been in set trying to figure out what to say next? Used a comfort routine that didn’t work out because you through it in too early? Stacked multiple openers and didn’t generate attraction? These types of problems can be removed from your game very early on via the use of a routine stack.
For brevity in this article I’ll describe my favored stack format covering Opening and A2 of the Mystery Method, in my next article I’ll continue running through into A3 and include a typical time bridge and number close routine I’ve used often.
So…In simple terms the basic Mystery Method Open/A2 stack format I have used most is…
• OPENER (with FTC and Neg)
• FTC
• IVD#1
• DHV Story#1
• Confirm 3 IOI’s? If yes then Qualify (Move into A3 stack), Or…
• DHV Story#2
• Confirm 3 IOI’s? If yes then Qualify (Move into A3 stack), Or…
• Continue with IVD #2 or DHV #3 and Qualify (Move into A3 stack)
I find that if your first piece following the opener provides the girls with something of value (i.e. an IVD), such as interesting information about them, then they are more likely to hook and listen to your following DHV loaded story. So as an example #1…
PUA: OPENER/FTC: Hey guys, just quickly…Is kissing cheating?
HB’s: blah blah blah
PUA: NEG: Hey, are those real nails? They look nice anyway.
PUA: OPENER CONTEXT: Its just my buddy’s girlfriend, she likes to get with other girls…etc.
HB’s: blah blah blah
PUA: FTC: Anyway, I gotta go, but I just noticed…
PUA: IVD: “Group cold read” – …something interesting about this group, well she seems like the mother hen, always looking after you all, you seem like the wild one…etc
HB’s: Blah blah blah
PUA: DHV Story #1: Respect. Actually though, you remind me of a girl I used to know…etc.
HB’s: blah blah blah
I’ve not included all the details of the routines, you could use any appropriate OPENERs/IVDs/DHVs, its just to demonstrate how despite human interaction being non-linear, you can control where the conversation goes by cutting their threads when they milk your topic and stacking forward to your next piece. They can be saying anything in the ‘blah blah blah’ areas, but in the end I’m gonna get my next important IVD/DHV piece across regardless. Another example…
PUA: OPENER/FTC: Hey guys, just quickly…Who lies more, men or women?
HB’s: blah blah blah
PUA: NEG: Hey, how short are you?
PUA: OPENER CONTEXT: I saw an article today talking about how often men / women lie…etc.
HB’s: blah blah blah
PUA: FTC: Anyway, I gotta go, but I just noticed…
PUA: IVD: ….You have a C shaped smile…etc
HB’s: Blah blah blah
PUA: DHV Story #1: Respect. Hey get this, last time I was in this place the craziest thing happened…etc
HB’s: blah blah blah
Straightforward and effective, first 5 or 6 minutes of the interaction accomplished time and time again.
In summary, its my view that a stack allows you to plan the early stages of your interactions, making them efficient by ensuring the set has heard your key leader/protector/pre-selection attraction material without you having to think too much about how to get this info across. I’ve found this can remove some of the variability of your first few hundred sets and frees you up to notice whats going on with body language, IOI’s, compliance levels etc.
Big Love,
Caddy
Caddy@venusianarts.com
How to Generate Your Own DHV Stories, With Examples
June 14, 2009 by Caddy
Filed under Featured Articles, Pick Up Lines and Routines
How to Generate Your Own DHV Stories, With Examples.
One topic within the art of pick up that many new and experienced PUA’s find difficult is the creation of DHV routines. Luckily, we at Venusian Arts can reach deep into your background and experiences to help you bring forward the coolest things from your own life to talk about in set. Using your own stories means they are congruent with you, and therefore easier to convey with good delivery, passion and energy. This article is gonna show you how.
As a re-cap from the Mystery-Method, DHV stories are aimed at demonstrating the ‘key attraction switch’ flicking qualities of Leader / Protector / Pre-Selection / Successful risk taker / willingness to emote. There are others (well traveled, experienced etc) but these are the main things we should convey in A2 and beyond.
People sometimes think DHV stories need to be seriously hard hitting and jammed with very obvious DHV ‘spikes’. For example…”hey get this, I just got back from Sydney, well the plane was late and my ex girlfriend, who was waiting at the airport for me was late for a modeling shoot, and already had a parking ticket on her Ferrari” [demonstrates
But you know, demonstrating attraction switches can also be as simple as saying something like “my ex-girlfriend called me, she was freaking out, I mean REALLY scared, so I got her to focus, I told her “listen to me babe, trust me, everything is gonna be fine”” [demonstrates pre-selection, protector and some leader qualities].
“I don’t have any DHV stories” is something I’ve heard more than anything from PUA’s since I’ve been teaching Game. Guess what? you all have experiences that can be turned into DHV stories, whether your 18 or 80. I’ll show you…lets get that grey matter working, get a pen and think of a time when you…
• Had something interesting, funny or unusual happen to you
• Were there for someone with a problem (friend had a dilemma, spoke to you for advice)
• Stood up and supported somebody (it was hard for him, so I stood up and said lets do this together. I mean my friends and I are totally there for each other)
• Calmed someone down (“she was really scared, I told her to focus on me and that everything would be ok”)
• Organized something for friends (holiday, away trip, day out etc)
• Were chased by a girl (“she was bombarding me with text messages”)
• Did something with a girl(s) (“My friend Jane and I went to….”)
• Took a beating for someone (It was gonna be bad, but we faced it together)
• Told somebody what to do (“they didn’t know what to do next, so I told them to…”)
Hopefully you get the picture of the sorts of questions you should be asking yourself, so we should have some stuff to work with now. With some thought, we can move from the output of these questions to a DHV story.
Example 1 BAD FLIGHT: I had some bad-ass turbulence on a flight once, everyone was screaming, very scary. I told a girl sitting next to me it’d be ok, even though I was crapping my pants LOL.
Wow something crazy happened to me on a flight to Hawaii recently, everybody is feeling relaxed, the stewardesses are serving drinks with their fake smiles going on. Anyway, then the plane starts to bounce, a little at first. Then more, people start to feel nervous. Suddenly it all kicks off, Bang, Bang, Bang, drinks everywhere, said stewardess off the ground, people start screaming. There’s a girl next to me in tears, I’m trying to keep her calm telling her it’ll all be fine. She starts to dig her nails into me! Next thing its all deathly calm and quiet. Severe turbulence the pilots said! After that we both ended up drinking our fair share of duty free a. to keep her nice and calm and b. for me to blank out the pain from where I’d allowed her to dig her nails!
Example 2 POLAND NOSE BREAK: I was out drinking with 2 women friends and had my nose broken in a street brawl. Got it fixed, it was all fine.
I was on holiday in Poland, my second home. I lived out there for a year when I was younger. Well I’d been drinking in a bar with a couple of girls I know. Anyway, one goes outside to order a taxi, and the second girl and I follow her soon after. Outside my friend is being hassled by these 3 drunken guys, I can sense her unease. So I roll over to see what’s happening and they hear me speaking, and presume I’m German, well Poles and Germans don’t always get along so a fight breaks out. When the dust settles, the girls are fine thankfully but my nose is broken. I’m like “ok hospital it is!” where the doc manually fixes my nose! Get this, he then takes out a mirror and says “Is that how it looked before? Well I don’t know, so I open the door and ask the girls and they are like, yeah babe it looks as good as before! LOL [ Protector / pre-selection / well traveled]
So you can see aspects of the questions I asked earlier drawn together in a number of life events, then with a little work these are pulled into DHV stories. The two above are real events from my life, about 90% factual with a sprinkling of embellishment for effect ;¬), and have been run successfully a thousand or more times in A2.
The second question I get asked a lot is “how do I bring these stories into the conversation?”. It’s EASY guys, here’s how. I use what I term “lead-in statements”, usually 2 or 3 sentences that can move the conversation from virtually any topic (routine or fluff!) into my story, examples below…
To get into BAD FLIGHT DHV ROUTINE-
I just noticed, you have a smile you can turn on and off on demand (neg)!
I bet you’d be awesome calming people down in a crisis
It reminds me of a time when…something crazy happened on a flight recently….
OR
I just noticed, are those real nails? (neg)
Ooh I get nervous around girls with nails like that LOL
Its just that…something crazy happened on a flight recently….
OR
Hmmm…I’m guessing you work as an air stewardess? Its just you are very well kept…and you have that ‘blonde’ look ;¬) (neg)
I bet you’d be awesome calming people down in a crisis though
Its like on this flight I had recently…something crazy happened…
So in summary, you’ve seen a couple of examples of DHV stories, how to generate them and how to bring them in to the conversation. Of course it takes practice, and delivery is soo important, but this should get you thinking. In future I’ll write about how we weave in Kino and compliance testing into our DHV stories, and remember that at bootcamps we spend time with you developing your personalized DHV’s, then perfecting them with you in-field.
Now I’m gonna open it up to you guys. Post back a couple of sentences briefly describing an event from your life and I’ll turn a few of them into DHV stories. Lets develop some material with which to rescue the bored HB’s of the world from being asked “do you come here often” and “what do you work as” ;¬). Lets do it brothers….
Caddy



