Program Review for Las Vegas Bootcamp, by StoryyTeller, Aug 07
August 15, 2007 by Blitz
Filed under Program Reviews
Alrighty, here is my review of the Las Vegas Bootcamp with Mystery, Lovedrop, Matador, Hawaii, and Neo (and Blitz and the wing-women):
Day 1 (in class) : Outstanding
Started on time with Mystery. He is friendly, personable and a very articulate speaker.
I had already read the book twice and watched the DVD’s several times so most of the information was review for me.
There were of course, updated and new distinctions to be learned.
For example;
Peacocking raises the probability of being seen – thus if you are peacocking, you must establish pre-selection as soon as possible. Otherwise you will be "seen" as a lonely loser, thereby losing all the benefits of peacocking.
One of the main benefits for me was learning how to "cope with the fear of the approach."
1. You have permission to fear the approach – it’s normal.
2. Go ahead and "wreck the set" – it’s just practice.
3. "Crash and Learn"
Lovedrop did a great presentation on Emotions, Delivery, and Non-Reactive Attitude. This was an outstanding talk – I took tons of notes. Most of it was new material that I hadn’t read in the book or seen on the DVD’s.
Here are a few tidbits from my notes:
- be unaffected by hot chicks because it lowers your value
- critical mistake: reacting to girls – they perceive your self-perception of lower value
- It isn’t the routine that gets the results, it’s the delivery
- When girls see that you are unaffected, they feel attraction – because of your self-perceived relative value
- High value guys don’t try to impress
- Outcome: get practice – stop caring about getting laid
- Embrace rejection – avoiding rejection is for pussies
- etc…
Night 1 : Demo Night at the club
Matador demo’ed the "alpha-kino-caveman" character. To me it appeared over-aggressive and not my style. He did a great job of shifting my perception the next day and night (read on…).
Lovedrop was the quintessential coach, describing every move that Mystery made (from a polite distance), and correcting my newbie patterns (talking to fast, leaning in, forgetting to lock-in, etc.). He really is an outstanding social-scientist who can quickly assess and deconstruct social interactions.
Mystery was approaching, conversing, hugging (going kino) with many females. I didn’t stand close enough to hear what he was saying because it just feels weird to me to stand that close – but Lovedrop explained what he was doing.
I opened about 7 sets on my own (one set opened me). Made a bunch of mistakes. Really learned the value of "warm-up sets."
Day 2 (in class) : Opened with Mystery for an hour or 2, then Matador for the rest of the day.
Regarding Matador, it was quite interesting to see an intellectual social-scientist speaking to us during the day after witnessing the "alpha-kino-caveman" from the night before.
I expressed my concern that the caveman character seemed overly aggressive and a little rude to the women. He helped me to shift my perspective by pointing out a few things:
1. He is constantly calibrating, testing for tension, and releasing and rolling-off when he feels it.
2. No one is forcing the women to stay and talk to him. They can walk away anytime they want.
3. If they didn’t like what he was doing, they would leave. Therefore, they must like it.
Later that night (in the club), he re-demonstrated even more dramatically by calling our attention "hey guys, right now, watch this, (alpha-caveman demo), see it’s that easy." Sure enough, the women didn’t leave, they stuck around for more of the same. This was very valuable for me.
At the end of Day 2 (in class), Matador set our goal for the night to be 1 makeout session. He asked if we were ready. I said "Hell no, I’m scared shitless." Then I remembered Mystery’s advice from the previous day; don’t be afraid to wreck the set, crash and learn.
Night 2 (at the club):
We had a VIP table. Matador did an endless stream of "alpha-kino-caveman" demos – which totally shifted my whole perspective.
Lovedrop continued to watch me in-set and provided post-set analysis of what I did right and where to improve.
I went into my social-dancing role (which I mastered many years ago), and eventually got my make-out session with a cute married woman. When I went for the kiss, she said "I’m married" – to which I responded "Hey, I’m not going to fuck you right here on the table." We started making out. A few minutes later her friends came and took her away. It was fun. When I told Matador that I got my make-out, he said that he had done 9 so far – so I went off to open some more sets (practice, practice, practice).
Day 3 (in class):
- More comprehensive theory from Matador (hoops, neg theory, group theory, specific gambits, micro-calibration, shared projects, archetypes, etc.) – I already knew most of this from the book and DVD’s, but it was great to be able to ask questions in an interactive format.
- Another great presentation from Lovedrop which covered Evolutionary Value Switches, Emotional Relevancy in Story Telling, Bait Hook Reel Release, Conversational Rapport, Building Comfort and Trust, Displaying Vulnerability, and a couple new routines.
- Mystery got us on the phone with Style (author of The Game), and provided a lot of motivation to continue practicing by showing us pictures of the results he has achieved – he made my goals seem very real and achievable (hell, if a tall skinny guy who didn’t lose his virginity till he was 21 can get hot chicks, then so can I). He also demo’ed some cool mind-mapping software that helps to keep the social life organized.
Night 3 : bonus extra night
The seminar is advertised with 2 club nights but we did 3. I have no idea if this is normal or if they just felt like going out again.
I gave Matador a run for his money, dancing with lots of cool girls – BTW, this is a great wingman tactic to occupy obstacles.
Lovedrop, once again watched me in set and provided exceptional coaching:
- slow the fuck down, talk slower
- lean back
- don’t make your hoops to big (move her 10 feet away before trying to promenade the club)
- when you are in the club, go on instinct – don’t try to remember everything you learned in class because the analysis will fuck you up – fall to your level of training.
- be the cool, unaffected rich guy who is having a good time no matter what happens
He also sent in a wing-woman to provide social-proof at a key moment in one of my sets – it worked great – thanks!
BTW, the 2 wing-women were great. They made it really easy to social-proof the room right off the bat. It is a lot easier to open sets when you have pre-selection.
Towards the end of the night I was having a great time dancing with a little hottie. I almost wrecked the set but managed to salvage a number close. I left before I could fuck it up beyond all repair. She must have liked me because we did a "Day 2" the very next day. We had a great time, but I failed to give here enough "plausible deniability" to spend the night with me. Oh well – crash and learn…
Day 4 : brief wrap-up with Neo and Matador
Matador debriefed and answered any remaining questions before handing over to Neo.
Neo covered LMR (last minute resistance) – cool guy.
One of the great things about Neo is that he is short – which proves that you don’t have to be tall to get girls.
I already knew most of the LMR theory from the book and DVD’s. But one new distinction that I did get from Neo is this:
Fundamentally, a woman needs to feel that she has the option of keeping you around the next day.
Overall : Time and money well spent. I would do it again (and probably will). Highly recommended.
Cheers,
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—StoryTeller




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