Gaming drunk sluts?

[Sincerelee]

Originally Posted by rAFC

Darwin I hear what you're saying... I struggled for a long time with that mindframe, that it is somehow 'degrading' to women. A lot of it can be traced to negative conditioning in childhood, from parents who think they're doing you a favor to raise you well... but in the end it's the assholes who don't respect who get what they want most of the time. I'm not saying you should be an asshole nor do I condone it, but I think you're trying to live in an ideal world if you think you can ban a couple assholes on a forum and somehow redress the balance. Sometimes it's sad but it's just the way it goes in the world...

That said, there is also something about real genuine unselfishness which is a massive switch in females in my experience... often the assholes are chosen because the only alternative is complete AFC... sometimes it's hard to exercise frame control when a girl is more confident and 'masculine' in her personality than you are. Often only an asshole can stand up to that...

rAFC, when I was younger, I used to think that way. And, it is often true that assholes get what they think they want.

The truth is, confident people get what they want. For the average person, it is hard to tell confidence from assholiness (I just made up the coolest word in the world?). The reason is, confident people tend to be cocky, and cocky and assholy look a lot alike.

The reason confident people get cocky is because they are right and successful so often they tend to believe they have one up on the averaage person, and they usually do.

Having said all that, confident people get what they want. They get it because people trust them. Women love confident men. When people cannot find confident people, they settle for assholes.

[Prophet]

Sincerelee has got it here.


And rAFC, we're not trying to create an ideal world, we're just getting the idiots who make disrespectful comments OFF of our forum. Keep that in mind in the future.

[quality]

Originally Posted by Darwin001

Thanks Quality, Not only did you inspire me to look inside myself and try to understand my own intentions and social conditioning subjectively but I could not stop laughing. So hilarious, you paint a pretty vivid picture that although seems unrealistic and absurd I actually get the impression, is really your reality.

I am going to read some books like, My Horizontal Life and others that I can find that I'm not aware of yet that explain sex from a woman's perspective. Props for the helpful counseling I really appreciate it.

Darwin,
I'm glad I was helpful to you. But you need to understand something. I did try to write that in a humorous way, and I'm glad you found it funny, but you gotta know brother; that it is neither unrealistic, nor absurd. Not in the least. That is for real. It is for real for lots and lots of people. It's not just some cool, bad ass secret thing I got going on, it's the way it is for anyone that knows how to have a healthy sexual relationship. I encourage anyone on here to back me up on this to show Darwin how true it is. I'll tell you what though, those cats that think women are just sex objects don't get to have that. Which would you rather have, a few drunken' guaranteed one nighters, or a lot of wildly passionate experiences for the sexes. Hell, I'm in Iraq right now, and when I masturbate I don't need porn, cause I got memories that are far superior to anything in a movie (mostly cause I was there).

Sex is fun, that's why it's not degrading, why would something everyone wants to do be bad? Your head must be to locked into this idea that if a woman has sex she's a slut, and should be ashamed of her self, so you don't want to take her innocence. But it's not true, they like it too, and they should, its fun!

Here's an example. I'm in Iraq and I was having an email conversation with one of my girlfriends about staying at a hotel when I get back, and I said I didn't want to lock myself in a hotel the whole time because at some point I'm going to want to treat her like a lady, and there will be none of that in a hotel room (remember, this is a playful conversation. Were just joking around). Her reply was: “I want a hotel! Treat me like a lady when we are around your family. When we are in our room, let me act like a slut.” And this girl is so classy you would be shocked to know she said that. Getting the idea yet?

Another thing, reading books is all fine and dandy, I encourage you to read, and read a lot. But you gotta get out their man. You won't meet a girl in a book. Go to a party, hang out with your friends, pay attention to yourself, and keep your eyes open. This is where you will do the most leaning. Forget about game for a little while, it'll cause you to over think. Lots of people get laid without it. Just go out and build your social intelligence, be around people, be fun, be nice, be interesting, BE AWESOME, and be awesome to everyone. You'll get a girl tonight. But you'll never get one if you don't go out. Learn from the field, that's where the game is played. You can't stay in the locker room and read the play book all season and expect to win the super bowl. Go out there, go and fail, fail a lot (every no brings you closer to a yes). Get rejected, get so close and loose it, get to second base on a beer soaked couch only to have her never call you back. But also succeed, Call that girl that was following you around all night, bang some cougars, prematurely ejaculate. HAVE FUN!!! I love you man, you'll do great, just stop thinking about it, throw caush into the wind. Put on your armor and go to battle! With this advice I swear you will slay the dragon. Then...after that, hone your game razor sharp...and be dangerous. In no time my friend, you will be...a pick up artist.

I think I want to become an instructor


BTW, what happened to easyvibe? Did he give up on his own thread? Did he not get as much support as he thought he would?

[azazels_wolf]

I think easievibe also got the clue that he needs to stop throwing around disrespectful, derogatory language.

And quality, you want your statement backed up? How about this one:

Originally Posted by quality

I am not an asshole, I never have been, and I have lots of sex, with lots of beautiful wonderful women who are proud to admit to sleeping with me, I respect them all, and this alone attracts women. Don’t manipulate women into satisfying your needs, make a situation where the both of you want to not only satisfy your needs, but want to satisfy each others desires. You know what great sex is? Great sex is when each person cares more about satisfying their partner, and wants to make the other person feel good more then they care about them selves. Does that sound degrading to you? Imagine being in bed with a woman you are attracted to, who is attracted to you, who has nothing more on her mind then making you feel good, and you have the same. Imagine situations where there is almost a battle in bed to give the other person pleasure, where comments like “No, I want to do for you again!” are met with “No! It’s my turn to do for you!” This is my reality and it belongs to several people here as well. These guys that don’t give a shit about a woman as anything more then a seamen receptacle will never experience this. They are only masturbating with bodies, and to tell you the truth, I hate them, and I feel sorry for them. These dudes are losers, why do you think it takes a girl to get drunk to agree to have sex? Because no one in their right mind would. And the truth is that people don’t like assholes, and they know one when they see one.

RIGHT ON. Read that again, Darwin. It's important.

[quality]

Thanks for the support 'Wolf. That was more then I had anticipated but it will certainly do. I want Darwin to know that I'm not the anomaly, but the norm. And anyone can join me, including him. I don't have a special gift that can be attained by knowing game, just showing him what is possible in bed, but not for assholes. I am by no means a master pick up artist, I don't even consider myself to be a particularly good pick up artist, but I know a bad one when I see one.


I would like to thank you particularly Azazels_wolf. You restored some of my faith. At the beginning of this debacle of a conversation I thought maybe I didn't belong in this crowd because they were a part of the dark side. I'm glad I not only found this wasn't the general opinion, but I got a resounding loud scream that it wasn't. So I suppose in a way this thread has been for me just as much as it has for Darwin and the others that needed guidance. And I can stand by what it says on my signature again...I love you guys.

[Darwin001]

I am speechless and actually quite emotional. It is one of the greatest and most eye opening experiences to see that a person can receive so much meaningful support from such great people. I am in awe to the great level of understanding and motivation you have given me and can't express how thankful I am.

Your tip about field experience really hit home and now I'm kind of in a conundrum. In an effort to better myself I have collected TWENTY-FIVE books from Sperm Wars to Mastering Your Hidden Self. Books ranging from sexual psychology, evolutionary psychology, Emotional Intelligence, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Cognitive Brain Functions, Cold-Reading Mind Tricks, Seduction, The Mystery Method, Rules of the Game, Self Help Books (The Power of Now), and Social Networking books (How to win Friend and Influence People).

I have tried to basically stocked up my entire room with as many and all books I can think of that can help me become a better person and a better Pick up Artist. In my effort I have realized that I have erred. I have filled my head with the thought that after I do read these books, I will be a better person. And in my pursuit of this I have found myself locked in my room, doing nothing but reading for days at a time, learning, trying to soak up as much information as I can.

Although I do try to practice game when I am in public such as at college but I find myself disappointed in my inner game at times. I have developed this mindset that if I even see a girl I would be moderately interested, or even not, I feel that unless I open her and practice my game, that I am indeed letting myself down and failing as a PUA. The worst thing is that I find myself rationalizing it by thinking,"after I read all my books and get my game tight, then everything will change and I will open every person I see" In Reality this can't be true, and I now realize, I must work on myself infield before that could truly be correct.

But I crashed my car yesterday and now am in even more of a mess. I got a $300 ticket when I have $250 to my name and now have no car. I guess this will give me a lot of time to read but damn, no car is a serious DLV and now practice locations are gonna be hard to get to.

I just saw the best short film I have ever witnessed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao I recommend watching it, it is relevant to everyone and holds meaning to PUA social Dynamics

[quality]

Originally Posted by Darwin001

I am speechless and actually quite emotional. It is one of the greatest and most eye opening experiences to see that a person can receive so much meaningful support from such great people. I am in awe to the great level of understanding and motivation you have given me and can't express how thankful I am.

Your tip about field experience really hit home and now I'm kind of in a conundrum. In an effort to better myself I have collected TWENTY-FIVE books from Sperm Wars to Mastering Your Hidden Self. Books ranging from sexual psychology, evolutionary psychology, Emotional Intelligence, Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Cognitive Brain Functions, Cold-Reading Mind Tricks, Seduction, The Mystery Method, Rules of the Game, Self Help Books (The Power of Now), and Social Networking books (How to win Friend and Influence People).

I have tried to basically stocked up my entire room with as many and all books I can think of that can help me become a better person and a better Pick up Artist. In my effort I have realized that I have erred. I have filled my head with the thought that after I do read these books, I will be a better person. And in my pursuit of this I have found myself locked in my room, doing nothing but reading for days at a time, learning, trying to soak up as much information as I can.

Although I do try to practice game when I am in public such as at college but I find myself disappointed in my inner game at times. I have developed this mindset that if I even see a girl I would be moderately interested, or even not, I feel that unless I open her and practice my game, that I am indeed letting myself down and failing as a PUA. The worst thing is that I find myself rationalizing it by thinking,"after I read all my books and get my game tight, then everything will change and I will open every person I see" In Reality this can't be true, and I now realize, I must work on myself infield before that could truly be correct.

But I crashed my car yesterday and now am in even more of a mess. I got a $300 ticket when I have $250 to my name and now have no car. I guess this will give me a lot of time to read but damn, no car is a serious DLV and now practice locations are gonna be hard to get to.

I just saw the best short film I have ever witnessed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao I recommend watching it, it is relevant to everyone and holds meaning to PUA social Dynamics

Ouch, that's a tough break brother. But listen, your making excuses. Your talking about how your value is low already. Your car has nothing to do with who you are. Where in DHV stories do you ever hear people talk about their vehicle? Only douche bags brag about their car. I mean you can incorporate it if you want but it really has nothing to do with anything. In fact your car crash can be a fun story if you tell it right.

What are the three main attraction switched?
1: Pre-selected by women.
2: Leader of men.
3: Protector of loved ones.

Is car anywhere in there?

While it's true it is now harder for you to get from point A to point B it has nothing to do with your ability to socialize. All I hear is you saying “well, now I can't because of this...”

Just go out and meet people, you don't have to pick up, just go out man. That's the secret, go make friends and go have fun.

It's good to read, and you should keep doing it, but go play out side to.

Stop giving reasons you can't and you will. You have already failed before you even left the house. Stop focusing on all the reasons you have low value, and look at the reasons you have high value.

In fact, sit down tonight with a pad of paper and write down all the things you like about your self.

Write “I'm loyal, I'm smart, I'm nice to people, I have straight teeth, I have a deep voice, I'm good at hacky sack, I have a big dick, I have a cool tattoo, I can draw well.”

Read it before you go out, hold your head up high, put a smile on your face and just go have some fun. Don't even pick up, just get out of your own head, get out of your comfort zone. Because what will happen is you'll fix your car, but then you'll say “well I can't now because I have bills to pay, well I can't now because my clothes are old, well I can't now because I have a zit.” And you will never go. Get it together, it's not a scary world out their and girls will like you if your just a nice, good guy. After you realize this you can start working on your game and move toward getting any girl you want, but for now you got to get out of your house. Every time you don't try you will fail.

Look, if you don't have time and money, that's ok. You probably shouldn't force your self to go out. But you don't have to go clubbing to go out. And I'm hearing a lot of “make my self a better person” and “a failure.” You gotta knock that stuff off. Just kick back and go with the flow. Stop thinking so much, just go be.

[Sincerelee]

Number 4 is : Pre-selected by men.

[VJR98]

For me it's like cheating. At the end of the day, you don't improve your skills. Plus, you could stain your reputation with other chicks as well. Also, when she's not drunk, there's a chance for friend-with-benefits that doesn't exist when she's hammered and wakes up the next day feeling bad about what she did. So it's up to you, but I'd say make it more of a challenge rather than take the easy route.

[MoparMan]

I avoid drunk chicks, mainly because you can set yourself up for a false rape charge, its a risk I do not want to take