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  • Good Person Opener - My Most Original Opener yet...

    field tested this yesterday...


    ...going out with her tomorrow.



    [I]You're a good person… I don't know you, I've never met you before, and after today I'll probably never see you again.
    But when you get that certain vibe, when you can sense that something is good… You never forget it. Shit, I might be wrong, I've been known to be wrong in the past before. But that’s ok… I'm only human and we make mistakes. But that doesn't change the fact that you're a good person… NOT because you're beautiful, NOT because of you're personality, and NOT because I'm talking to you right now. But because you believe it. That certain vibe. I don't know, you just seem super chill… oh, I'm sorry. Friend's call me Fair. [/I]

  • #2
    Said with the right inflections and proper tone it's probably gold. Very out of the blue and makes them think. I like it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jugerrnaut View Post
      Said with the right inflections and proper tone it's probably gold. Very out of the blue and makes them think. I like it.


      Your 100% right Jug. This can only be done in the right frame. I practiced all the pauses, all the breaks, hand gestures, and breaths I take in the mirrior for two weeks. I used to do method acting back in the day. So the believability is surely there, and frankly, [I]HAS[/I] to be there. I kid you not... doggy dinner bowl look in under a min.

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      • #4
        I'd imagine it'd be great for someone with good acting abilities, for those without them I wouldn't recommend it - it'll come off as very rehearsed. However, the "you're a good person" is similar to something I ALWAYS say that I took from MM; "You're a really nice girl". That line never fails to get a girls wheels turning, they typically qualify to anything you say after that because they really don't know if you meant it as a good thing or as something you're not looking for. Sends them on a rollercoaster of thoughts when dropped in after a few minutes of good vibing.

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        • #5
          Very nice

          Sounds like pure GOLD, Fair!

          I'm assuming you use this as a transition piece between qualification and comfort?

          It is DEFINITELY an advanced gambit, and you need a very strong frame in order to convey the [I]confident vulnerability[/I] necessary to make it effective, but Fuck it! In order to game a 9 or a 10 you need that ANYWAY!

          I'm going to make it a short-term goal to frame myself strongly enough to use this. I'll let you know how it goes!

          BTW- It's been close to 10 years, but I too studied Improv and acting... I think that will go a long way for a routine like this...

          Best,
          Gio

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          • #6
            You used this as an opener?

            So this was the first thing you said to the set?

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            • #7
              For the past four years one of my biggest dreams ever was to create an instant attraction with someone just by the mere honesty of my frame.

              With Method Acting (aka The Method) you draw on emotions from past experiances and convey that through whatever performance you are performing.

              So yes, this was my opener. I was at Fashion Valley Mall in San Diego, near the Armani Exchange store and saw a Hawiian HB9.8 (she wasn't a 10 because I didn't like her shoes. ). I thought about how I felt when I first met my ex-financé, and I delievered. The emotion felt so real to me... and she felt that enegry. Wasn't much to do after that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fair rose View Post
                field tested this yesterday...


                ...going out with her tomorrow.



                [I]You're a good person… I don't know you, I've never met you before, and after today I'll probably never see you again.
                But when you get that certain vibe, when you can sense that something is good… You never forget it. Shit, I might be wrong, I've been known to be wrong in the past before. But that’s ok… I'm only human and we make mistakes. But that doesn't change the fact that you're a good person… NOT because you're beautiful, NOT because of you're personality, and NOT because I'm talking to you right now. But because you believe it. That certain vibe. I don't know, you just seem super chill… oh, I'm sorry. Friend's call me Fair. [/I]
                Sounds like a personally tweaked "shock and awe" opener.
                Its where you lay everything on the line from the second you open. I consider it one of one of the most powerful advanced openers.

                I use shock and awe almost strictly for older women. They seem to take to it the better than younger women. On one occasion I was going for it on a girl in my age bracket, mentally I could see she didn't know how the fuck to react.

                Good stuff Rose.

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                • #9
                  D-A-M-N.

                  An opener?

                  Now that is ballsy...

                  Good for you!

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                  • #10
                    Dude that is good but a bit to serious making her laugh with some short small little comment is best. This can work if said to the right girl at the right time but generally this will freak people out. Maybe you can pull it off but I'd have to watch you use this to see how exactly you're doing it. I would imagine you're coming in very direct with a target that is already interested. You've probably already been given the green light. So this will work, and anything will work because she's already on board she likes you. Your main job after that is to not say anything so stupid you blow yourself out a comment like this will work in that situation. Yet in cold approaches this will not work very well. Stick with using funny openers that make sarcastic jokes about yourself that indicate your confident and make her laugh it is the best and easiest way to open any set.
                    Last edited by The Wild One; 01-05-2009, 12:02 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Decibel
                      Ok, not to rain on your parade here, but I'm pretty sure it was not the words you used, but your delivery that made her attracted. You have loads of experience in that area, so that will def come in handy for you.
                      I opened at a mall yesterday with 'hey, what are you reading?' and got attraction off the bat. It's not what I said, but how it was said. It's the subcoms of a high value, sex-worthy man which usually make or break the opener.


                      I'll agree with you on that. But the words; with the [I]delivery[/I] painted the perfect picture. I tend to not do "funny" anymore. I may be playful, but like Sinn said, within the first three mins. I do sexually escalate a lot more than the average guy. I've found with women, as long as you are on board with what you say, they will be on board as well.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fair rose View Post
                        I'll agree with you on that. But the words; with the [I]delivery[/I] painted the perfect picture. I tend to not do "funny" anymore. I may be playful, but like Sinn said, within the first three mins. I do sexually escalate a lot more than the average guy. I've found with women, as long as you are on board with what you say, they will be on board as well.
                        Such a smoothie...I have no doubt you understand how to deliver the proper emotional reaction you're searching for..Just protecting any new guys that aren't on the same skill level from scaring girls doing this opener wrong.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Wild One View Post
                          Such a smoothie...I have no doubt you understand how to deliver the proper emotional reaction you're searching for..Just protecting any new guys that aren't on the same skill level from scaring girls doing this opener wrong.

                          I'm on your side bro... like I said, I've been working on this concept for four years now. And I still only deliver it well, ,when [I]I feel it[/I]. I PRAY nobody goes out there and trys to wing it. But that brings me to the aspect of where I've seen this done before. The exact same frame I tried to convey is literally sucking her into a reality where its just me & her. To show you the emotional aptitude of what I'm trying to say, there's a scene in the Scorsese flick [I]The Aviator (2004) [/I]where Leonardo diCaprio play Howard Hughes. This was basically the same frame: EYE Contact is most important aspect:

                          hope this helps.

                          watch from 8:50-10:34

                          [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6QAM6LunXc&feature=related[/url]

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                          • #14
                            woow good job, really.

                            my favourite part is when u say " NOT because you are beautiful" instead of sayin "not because of your looks"....

                            cuz u take a woman's insecurity away by judgin her looks as beautiful and not just sayin looks, cuz that would have left alotta space for the imagination.

                            good job, but one critic i got:
                            u know when u start with gold u have to remain gold..at least. she wont accept no silver from or gold, platnium, diamonds whatever u know ;-) keep up

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                            • #15
                              you always come out of the blue and say exactly what needs 2 b said The Wild One, good job. Its imporntant to conceal your intentions right off the bat this doesnt. Its a mouthful and all she will be doing wen ur talking is thinking "ok, another nice guy how do i get rid of him and make this more comfortable for myself" this may work on desperate women but not 8s 9s n 10s.

                              actually now that i think about, how could a direct opener ever bag a 9 or 10?

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