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  • Why Venusian Arts Lies?

    I ask an opinion about a FACT (objective)

    In may they PROMISE this incredible TRANSPARENCY VIDEO FREEEEEEE!!!!!!
    Now, october, 5 months later, you have TO PAY for it.

    I reposted the newsletter (see the parts in red)



    I'm almost exploding.

    Blitz here... from a secret location near San Diego... with
    a Venusian Arts newsletter that's just a TAD "different" today.

    taochi, I'm sitting on BIG news, affecting Mystery,
    The Venusian Arts, and the Community as a whole...

    If you know me from our bootcamps, you know that I'm not the
    kind of guy who gets too excited about stuff too quickly.

    But you'll also know that I like to call a spade a spade.
    You know that my straightforward attitude, yes, also known as
    my MOUTH, gets me into trouble ALL the freakin' time.

    So imagine poor old Blitz, sitting on this big announcement,
    but muzzled up by this damn IRCONCLAD NON-DISCLOSURE
    AGREEMENT... an agreement that keeps me from just blurting
    out what you are dying to hear.

    Torture.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    WELL I GUESS IT'S THE GOOD HURT.
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    'Cause the NEWS that I have is mostly GOOD NEWS.

    Did I say mostly?

    Well there's also some bad news. Having to do with future
    availability of Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, and myself as
    instructors together, IN THE FIELD, for you.

    Having to do with the highly interactive bootcamp format
    that allows every single student to be in earshot of ALL
    FOUR OF US, out in a bar or club, as we barrel through
    pickup after pickup, pulling numbers and makeouts right in
    front of your very eyes.

    Yes taochi that bad news also has to do with your
    future ability as a student to get direct feedback on YOUR
    game, from ALL OF US: Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, *AND*
    myself, in the flesh - all wrapped in one bootcamp, at its
    current fee structure.

    Yes, you may soon be unable to get training from all four
    "titans of pickup" at once, in one place, at one time.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Lovedrop is looking over my shoulder and gives me that
    "look"... as if to say, "you've already told too much!"
    Didn't I tell you my mouth gets me into trouble all the
    time?

    Fine, I went so far, I might as well clarify. Look, I don't
    want to freak you out taochi, but the bootcamp
    format where you get to receive direct, personal training
    from ALL of us, especially Mystery, may be on its way out
    this spring. Because BIG things are happening for Mystery
    and The Venusian Arts. And when I say BIG, I mean BIG.

    I know, I know... if you've been sitting on the fence about
    signing up for a bootcamp this spring, it wouldn't be fair
    to leave you with a cliffhanger like this.

    The thing is, I *REALLY* can't tell you more than I've
    already let on. Not today anyway.

    So here's what we'll do instead: We've revamped our blog to
    become the official information hub for the new bootcamp
    format.

    Sound fair?

    New posts are pending already and will come in fast and
    furious, almost daily now. It's interactive too, because I
    want you, to ask questions and post comments
    online:

    [url]http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/[/url]

    Now as you post there, you'll find that some of my answers
    will be more detailed than others. Remember the
    nondisclosure agreement we all signed? Our lawyers will
    probably give me hell for having revealed so much in this
    newsletter already!!

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    THE SECRET WAY TO GET INSIDER MYSTERY INFO
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    But I wouldn't be Blitz if I couldn't find a sneaky way to
    drop you some "hints" in response to every question you ask.
    You're a smart cookie , you can read between
    the lines, right?

    And yeah, there'll STILL be that BIG announcement as soon as
    our lawyers have "unmuzzled" me. Not sure when that will be.
    Could be tomorrow. Could be in a week. I honestly don't know
    myself!

    So check the blog every day. I want you, to be
    the first to know what happens to our bootcamps, if you've
    at all been contemplating signing up for one, okay?

    [url]http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/[/url]

    Okay Lovedrop is really giving me dirty looks now. I'd
    better get off this bootcamp thing. Didn't mean to get all
    'cloak and dagger' on you.

    The last thing I'll say about this stuff is that if you
    thought Style's book, "The Game" changed things for the
    Community and for Mystery...

    Well this new thing is waaaaaaay bigger. (And 'The Game was
    a New York Times bestseller!)

    So what does this have to do with you?

    Plenty.

    Maybe I'm being a little dramatic—but I feel like a nuke (of
    good stuff) is about to go off, and this tight little
    community is right in the center of it.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU?
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Well for starters, Mystery will be GIVING YOU a lot of stuff
    free.

    Why?

    Because he can.

    After the BIG announcement that's about to break in a few
    days, you'll fully understand. You'll see *WHY* Mystery
    really is in the mood to give back to this tight-knit
    community this year.

    He's not kidding when he says he loves every single one of
    you. [COLOR="Red"]He'll be giving away stuff at [url]www.VenusianArts.com[/url]
    that's so valuable, other Pick-Up Gurus need to SELL similar
    products, for hundreds of dollars a pop, because they have
    literally nothing else to offer!
    [/COLOR]
    (I know I'm going to catch a bunch of flack for this
    statement, but without Mystery's continued involvement
    with this community, hardly anything new and interesting
    and good would happen.)

    But the stuff you're about to get, it's not even like the
    stuff Mystery's old students and these other guys are
    selling.
    Last edited by John Candy; 10-01-2007, 02:56 PM.

  • #2
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    THIS IS WAY BETTER
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Like, for example a totally different kind of interview.

    There's a reason that Mystery has shied away from these
    kinds of interview products for years. Now let me make
    sure I'm being clear here:

    Whenever Mystery's friends have asked Mystery to
    contribute his unique ideas, testing results and, cutting-
    edge techniques, he's always tried to help out if he had
    the time.

    But there's a big reason that Mystery's never created and
    sold his own interview products—because he wasn't satisfied
    with the traditional interview-style format where one dude
    asks other successful dudes what they do.

    Mystery's reasons are simple:

    * Big Huge Problem #1: Though years of being the world's
    top pickup artist, Mystery has learned from thousands of
    other men and women... by OBSERVING them fist hand.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    That's Because Mystery Has Discovered That Very Few
    People Know How To Explain *WHY* They Are Successful.
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Most, if not all, interview products you find simply
    ASK the interviewee—typically a PUA who MIGHT know
    What they are talking about, tells you what it is that they
    *THINK* they know about how they get girls.

    You don't get to SEE the PUA in action... which creates two
    all-new problems:

    1. How do you KNOW that this guy's style is going to work
    for you? Or if it even works at all, if you haven't seen it
    first hand?

    2. How do you learn what someone DOES by listening to
    what they SAY?

    But, even though this "ASK instead of SEE" is a massive
    issue, there's an even *BIGGER* problem with these
    traditional interview products.

    * Big Huge Problem #2: One of the most important things
    that Mystery has figured out is to learn from EVERYONE —
    not just the successful people. Only that gets him the
    shocking results we're used to seeing from him.

    Here's what I mean:

    Can you imagine if you tried to learn anything just by
    doing things RIGHT, but totally ignoring what you could
    learn from your MISTAKES, and the mistakes of others?

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    CRAZY, RIGHT?
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    But even though that's just weird, whenever I see an
    interview product, it's always with PUAs with few if
    any average frustrated chumps involved.

    Now before you laugh at the idea of some famous
    PUA interviewing someone who is still having troubles
    getting chicks, let me tell you this...

    Mystery actually says he's learned as much, if not
    MORE by watching people who weren't getting results.

    Well, I wasn't kidding when I said get ready to get
    something GOOD.

    Instead of Mystery answering questions, kick back
    and get ready to enjoy lengthy(!) hidden-camera video
    of none other than Mystery, picking up girl after girl,
    from opening to attraction to qualifying to comfort.

    (If you're not up on all of the lingo, that means prepare
    to WATCH Mystery pick up!)

    But we want to bring it to a different level than even
    that.

    So you're ALSO going to get detailed expert commentary , on
    every technique used, with every second of social
    interaction explained in depth...

    By Mystery's wing, Lovedrop!

    So it's just like you're standing in a bar, next to Lovedrop
    while Mystery moves in — and Lovedrop translates every
    move and every motion while you listen in and absorb.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Remember, just a minute ago, I told you that there were
    TWO BIG PROBLEMS with most interview products?

    Well Mystery has solved the second big problem, that
    you don't get to learn from EVERYONE, like the REAL experts
    do...

    Mystery's asked Lovedrop to *demonstrate* the three
    Biggest mistakes that beginners make, and their easy
    corrections.

    Now once again, you heard me say DEMONSTRATE —
    that's because, like I said, Mystery is all about doing
    it and showing you, instead of relying in a bunch of
    excuses about why you can't see for yourself.

    Just so you know, it took years of intense in-field
    testing to identify these simple mistakes that you're
    going to be able to use, to get maximum results in no
    time.

    (By the way, at this point, you can see why thousands
    of people have paid Mystery and his team thousands
    of dollars each to learn in-person in-field, from Mystery
    himself, so they can actually see everything for
    themselves!)

    Plus this video will include tough, in-depth questions
    asked directly by one of Mystery's students, leaving
    nothing vague and unexplained.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    We call it the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO.
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    While others offer you excuses, [COLOR="Red"]we're putting you in
    the field from the comfort of your computer. And it's
    all free.[/COLOR]

    In fact, I'm not even aware of a SINGLE product on the
    market, free or for sale, that incorporates ALL of these
    three elements:

    1) Virtual Approach: Watch and listen to hidden camera
    footage of Mystery live in field picking-up... with
    commentary from his wing.

    2) Demonstration: Mystery's wing, Lovedrop, shows
    you the three biggest mistakes that beginners make
    when it comes to pick-up, and the easy fixes.

    3) Accountability: Detailed, tough Q&A with a prodigy
    student...

    Enter Dex.

    Dex is Mystery's student.

    Dex is just like many guys who have put up with years
    of frustration, loneliness, and awkwardness.

    When I heard him say "Even when I was married, I felt
    like I was all alone." I totally understood.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    It's NOT Their Fault!
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Almost every guy that I've ever met who's suffered through
    the awkward frustration and loneliness, didn't know what
    Mystery knows.

    And when they found out, things changed right away.

    But there is one BIG difference when it comes to Dex.

    Here's what I mean:

    One of the big announcements (there are LOTS!) on
    the horizon is that Mystery's been experimenting
    with brand new training methods...

    And Mystery may have reinvented pickup once again.

    Now I am a screen actor, and I've appeared in a couple
    Of movies you might have seen, but don't think that
    Just because I'm an actor that I'm being dramatic when
    I told Mystery that some people were going to accuse
    him of having a secret time machine.

    What am I talking about?

    When I met Dex a few weeks ago he already had an
    astonishing story of transformation. I'll get to that
    in a second, but let me tell you this first...

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    HERE'S THE WEIRD PART
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    It's not all that unusual for a student to have the
    kind of transformation that Dex has had — but let
    me just say that I just went out with him last night
    and I'm just pulling myself together now at 8 PM.

    Things got WILD.

    I read the first few pages of the field report he's
    created for us on the little experience including the
    "lucky drink spill" story and, who knows, maybe
    even some freaking techniques that he's created...

    And it was nuts!

    My point is that Dex keeps getting better and better
    at an almost weird pace.

    The last time I saw him one hot chick, Kelly, was trying
    to physically rip him away from a 5 foot 10 go-go
    dancer who's leg wrapped around him. Lucky guy. ;-)

    I PROMISE to bug Dex to finish up that report and if
    Mystery says I can't show you, then I'll do whatever I
    have to change his mind. You must read this.

    Don't thank me, I can't WAIT to see how it turned out
    myself.

    Ok, so here's the other thing about Dex:

    He's YOUR advocate in our company.

    He'll ask the questions that *YOU* would want to have
    answered. He brings up the problems that *YOU* would have in
    the field. He never approaches things like a jaded pick-up
    guru would...

    Because he's a STUDENT of Mystery's JUST LIKE YOU.

    Dex is not going to let any superficial explanation slip by.
    Dex is going to ask the tough questions of Mystery, Matador,
    Lovedrop, and myself.
    Last edited by John Candy; 10-01-2007, 02:57 PM.

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    • #3
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      WHO IS DEX?
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      When Dex showed up for the Las Vegas bootcamp in March, I
      could tell right away that he's going to be our next success
      story.

      He'd only read Mystery's book in January, right after
      breaking up with his girlfriend of two and a half years.

      Dex told me that reading Mystery turned his life around - in
      only two months. I believed him. He stood out right away as
      the "cool cat" at the bootcamp. I knew he was going to get
      results.

      And I wasn't disappointed. On the first night out, we saw
      him grinding on the dance floor, making out with a petit
      blonde, for what seemed like hours.

      On the second night of the bootcamp, he kiss-closed another
      blonde within 3 minutes of meeting her, right in front of
      our instructor's eyes... and pulled her into bed the same
      night!

      Respect, as our friend Style would say.

      This wasn't him before he read Mystery. After his marriage,
      he'd always muddled his way from one girlfriend to the next,
      messing up more often than succeeding, and never feeling that
      he had CHOICE with women.

      Have any of YOUR friends stayed in long-term relationship
      much longer than they should have?

      That was Dex before he found Mystery.

      Ever seen anyone you know get stuck in a dating situation
      where the energy suddenly fizzled... with the seduction went
      absolutely nowhere?

      That was Dex before he found Mystery.

      Since Mystery touched his life, this guy has truly undergone
      an amazing transformation. From AFC with *EVERYONE'S* AFC
      problems, to being well on his way to master PUA.

      ------------------------------------------------------------
      A MASTER PUA???
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      I was skeptical too when LD told me about how much Dex had
      advanced since the bootcamp a couple of weeks ago...

      In fact, I went all the way to San Diego, in part, to see.

      And there are other guys too, using the same new stuff.

      I don't want to get all scientificy on you or anything but:

      What's Mystery doing now that's so different from before
      that's causing such radical transformation.

      ------------------------------------------------------------
      DON'T READ THIS PART IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      Have you ever heard of 'muscle memory?'

      It's the idea that you can sort of hard-wire your brain to
      act a certain way. And it's the reason that Mystery and
      his entourage have gone out in the field for years — to
      hard-wire the perfect moves into their brains.

      But to transform an AFC into a PUAs usually took years of
      grueling work, was expensive and often involved a lot of
      humiliating risks.

      Take Style, one of Mystery's star protégés. But his
      transformation took long years, lots of money and if you've
      read "The Game", you saw just a few of the embarrassing
      circumstances he found himself in before he was truly
      recognized as a PUA.

      Plus Style had the advantage of the fact that he was
      Mystery's protégé, so Mystery could carefully monitor
      Style's progress and help Style craft and tune his game to
      the masterpiece it is today.

      Style now literally has pick-up hard wired into his brain.

      What if it was possible to automatically hard-wire that same
      muscle memory into YOUR head with a fraction of the work and
      expense — and what if I told you that it was as fun as
      watching an episode of Entourage???

      Well, I can't *totally* spill the beans on this yet, but
      I'll just say that Mystery, Matador, & Lovedrop may just have
      invented a way...

      When I heard that Dex was taking positively Style like leaps
      in practically no time I was skeptical.

      ------------------------------------------------------------
      AFTER WATCHING DEX LAST NIGHT, I'M A BELIEVER
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      And now, because of Mystery's new experiment, Dex is
      taking *YOUR* path. And he's living *OUR* lifestyle now.

      He started out like *YOU*, reading Mystery's book, going out
      four nights a week, and getting blown out of set after set
      after set. Now, just a couple of months later, he's got
      intuitive, seemingly effortless game, getting stronger and
      stronger every weekend we go out with him.

      Can you imagine the possibilities?

      Having been in the game only for a couple of months, he
      still remembers his AFC days clearly. Who better than Dex to
      be *YOUR* advocate with Mystery and the guys?

      So watch our blog for Dex to ask tough questions of us.
      Tough questions that only a recent AFC would ask. Tough
      questions that YOU would ask!

      In fact, the first time that you can benefit from Dex's
      perspective on Mystery's teachings will be the TRANSPARENCY
      VIDEO... the product that Mystery insisted we give away to
      the community BEFORE his big announcement hits the media.

      You'll get:

      - Hidden camera footage of Mystery picking up girl after
      girl

      - with expert demonstration from my wing and good friend
      Lovedrop

      - plus tough questions asked by Dex, YOUR advocate with
      Mystery and us!

      [COLOR="Red"]How much would you pay for a product like this? $100? $300?
      $500? A thousand smackers?

      Mystery is going to give the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO away
      for free. Zilch. Zero. Nada.[/COLOR]

      When? I can't say. What I can say, though, is that you will
      hear about here first. Watch your e-mail inbox for another
      note from me.

      Later...

      Blitz

      P.S. Okay I'm back at the keyboard even though it's getting
      late here in San Diego... Lovedrop and Dex are bugging me to
      get off the computer so we can go out tonight.

      But I think I have another moment to give you my personal
      take on Mystery's gift to you, the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO. Maybe
      my big mouth is getting me into trouble again, but I *HAVE*
      to get this off my chest:

      Working with students in the field who have bought pickup
      product after pickup product, I deal with a lot of guys
      whose pickup minds are almost broken beyond repair. The
      sheer amount of false information, or copycat stuff and
      garbage fed to students (for a lot of money) truly saddens
      me. Bet you didn't think Blitz could be saddened by
      anything. But I truly am.

      I personally can't wait too see this [COLOR="Red"]free[/COLOR] video product in
      your hands, taochi. To me, it's all about this new
      idea of TRANSPARENCY in the community, and I'm proud to
      introduce it here, on Mystery's behalf.

      [COLOR="Red"]See, many of the routines, interviews and techniques that
      Mystery's imitators have been selling to you for big
      dollars... we are going to GIVE them away in form of the
      TRANSPARENCY VIDEO (watch the blog for updates).
      [/COLOR]
      [url]http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/[/url]

      Look, I know that I may be stepping on a
      lot of toes with what I'm about to say. That's kind of my
      role with Mystery and the guys anyway, so I'll go ahead and
      put my foot right into my mouth:

      After watching this [COLOR="Red"]free[/COLOR] video, to be released very soon,
      [COLOR="Red"]you might as well return many of our competitor's products
      for a full refund. Because all the techniques and bits that
      they "borrowed" from Mystery in the first place, and which
      they now sell so expensively, Mystery is willing to show
      you at no charge.[/COLOR]

      Why?

      ------------------------------------------------------------
      [COLOR="Red"]BECAUSE HE CAN[/COLOR]
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      Because Mystery has things in store for you that will
      completely transcend the techniques, the bits, the routines,
      all the things that others have copied from him over the
      years.

      How many times have you heard that you have to "be" Mystery
      to apply his method? That you have to be tall like him, be
      peacocked like him, use the same routines as he does?

      As Mystery is about to open a new chapter in helping you get
      the girl, I personally would like to throw these
      misconceptions overboard... once and for all.

      Do you know what I believe?

      I believe that seeing...

      - Mystery's full-length pickups on hidden camera,
      - expert demonstration by Lovedrop,
      - answering tough questions by a prodigy student like Dex

      ...may actually send Mystery's imitators running for cover.

      Having now thoroughly offended our friends in the industry,
      let me say though that that's not the prime reason for my
      personal excitement about the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO.

      For me, as an instructor who works with students like you,
      taochi, on a daily basis, you watching this video
      means that you and I are starting with a clean slate.

      It means purging from your mind the vague, misleading or
      outright false information that you've been fed over the
      years, and probably spent thousands of dollars on. It means
      that I can start fresh with you, when I see you at the next
      bootcamp.

      Yes, I hinted that our bootcamp format will change
      dramatically... that Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop and I, may
      be DRAMATICALLY less available to train you directly, as a
      team...

      So yes, that means that there's some urgency to watch our
      blog, as I may be relieved from my nondisclosure commitment
      about the new bootcamp format any day now.

      [url]http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/[/url]



      Till Next Time!,



      Blitz
      The Venusian Arts, LLC.
      Last edited by John Candy; 10-01-2007, 03:00 PM.

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      • #4
        free videos are here

        So hold on everybody, the promised free videos are coming, VA DID NOT LIE!

        "I also have fr*e videos," he continued. "that I need to release on
        Area51Lifestyle.com - training from Matador, training from JDog, and
        a few clips from the course."

        a snippet from Mystery's email (I have just received it)

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        • #5
          So hold on everybody, the promised free videos are coming, VA DID NOT LIE!
          Hey mate, i advice you to shut up. You are ridiculous.
          READ THE NEWSLETTER. THE PARTS IN RED.
          THIS
          How much would you pay for a product like this? $100? $300?
          $500? A thousand smackers?

          Mystery is going to give the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO away
          for free. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
          See, many of the routines, interviews and techniques that
          Mystery's imitators have been selling to you for big
          dollars... we are going to GIVE them away in form of the
          TRANSPARENCY VIDEO (watch the blog for updates).
          After watching this free video, to be released very soon,
          you might as well return many of our competitor's products
          for a full refund. Because all the techniques and bits that
          they "borrowed" from Mystery in the first place, and which
          they now sell so expensively, Mystery is willing to show
          you at no charge.
          WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH OF FUCKING CLIPS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SETS OF DVD THEY PROMISED FREE

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          • #6
            LOL, 21 DVD's, 13 CD's and ebooks for free? And it took several months to create it, and based on many YEARS of infield experience. Are you joking?

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            • #7
              u people r confusing the transparency video with the new "training pack"

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              • #8
                The transparency video and the under21convention
                video, were in the same boat... travelling on the pacific
                ocean. When trajedy awoke! The boat was pirated by
                CaptainJack of the mystery method corporation

                Neither free video made it's way to the venusianarts
                or venusian skills corporation's, but both have separate
                programs you can purchase at the cost of pirates treasure.



                Sincerely(),
                Slick

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                • #9
                  Hey Charybdis,

                  You said in a previous post that the course will cost close to $997. When will you guys let us know?

                  It certainly looks like Mehow found out about Mystery's Infield training and beat you guys to the punch.

                  I'm ready to buy Mystery's product, but you better let us know how much the Magnum Opus is soon or I'll have to go with Mehow.

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                  • #10
                    I don't read the Venusianarts newsletters, I like reading ones that actually give pick-up advice.

                    I read a lot of Captain Jack's Field Reports, i don't know if all of them are that real, but they're entertaining.

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                    • #11
                      VA is a business. Theyre out to make money. They will do whatever it takes to make a quick buck with as little effort as possible. This has also been made apparent by the clear and undeniable refusal by all of the instructors to make regularly post on this group, unless of course theyre trying to get publicity for their latest bootcamp.

                      VENUSIAN ARTS: WAKE THE FUCK UP. You can only play the "We're the home of Mystery so you have to buy from us" card for so long.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AustinCratio View Post
                        someone like you shouldn't be able to get women anyway...
                        LOL!!!!!!.....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Slick View Post
                          The transparency video and the under21convention
                          video, were in the same boat... travelling on the pacific
                          ocean. When trajedy awoke! The boat was pirated by
                          CaptainJack of the mystery method corporation
                          What does CaptainJack have to do with this?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Slick View Post
                            The transparency video and the under21convention
                            video, were in the same boat... travelling on the pacific
                            ocean. When trajedy awoke! The boat was pirated by
                            CaptainJack of the mystery method corporation

                            Neither free video made it's way to the venusianarts
                            or venusian skills corporation's, but both have separate
                            programs you can purchase at the cost of pirates treasure.



                            Sincerely(),
                            Slick
                            Venusian Skills is a NOT Venusian Arts. The Under 21 Convention footage is available free at venusianskills.com. No white lies or black lies. I just watched it. The whole thing is there for FREE. 9 freaking hours of streaming video. It sucks it took so long to be up when it was promised it would be available over a month ago; but they made on their promise. The Venusian Skills website looks pretty together.
                            Last edited by robert12; 11-06-2007, 01:15 AM.

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                            • #15
                              someone like you shouldn't be able to get women anyway...
                              You're mother doesn't think so

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