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sworn
03-24-2008, 03:05 PM
the other night I picked up a girl and got drunk and took her to my car. she went and started giving me head and after an hour I didn't cum and she said she felt inadequate (which wasn't true). I didn't know why I couldn't and I said I liked it and wanted it to last and brought her back down until my friend felt funny and opened the door so I had to finish myself in the bathroom. anyone have any situations like this or some insight? and no I'm not gay haha

Ashe
03-24-2008, 03:49 PM
ive never orgasmed off a blow job.... different strokes different folks man... for me its probably some kinda intimacy issue from way back.. who knows.. o.O?

just like osme girls wont orgasm off oral either

Killer
03-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Its happened to me too. If anything you're a new challenge which means she will get dirty. Have fun with that...

Hotspur
03-24-2008, 06:34 PM
Do you usually have trouble finishing from oral?

Most of the time when you can't come, it's because you've conditioned yourself to respond to certain stimulus, and your body expects them.

eg, if you masturbate a lot, particularly without lube, you're conditioning yourself to come from a rapid jerking motion. Well, guess what? She can't do that with her mouth. Her mouth is never going to be as tight as your fist.

The #1 piece of advice I can offer guys having trouble coming is to masturbate less. Them mix up how you do it. Use lube if you don't normally. Use your other hand. Use a different motion. You'll find all of these things make it much harder to finish ... that's because they're going against your conditioning.

But over time you'll condition yourself to respond to a larger realm of stimulus, including enthusiastic blowjobs.

sworn
03-24-2008, 06:39 PM
exactly the answer I needed, thanks

Hengman
03-24-2008, 06:45 PM
Everytime I try to get her in the mouth (so MANY damn times), she would taste it 2 seconds before and eject from my dick after a long ass suck.

Hmm... Anyone got sneaky tips?

Hooter
03-24-2008, 07:03 PM
Everytime I try to get her in the mouth (so MANY damn times), she would taste it 2 seconds before and eject from my dick after a long ass suck.

Hmm... Anyone got sneaky tips?

I would say don't try to sneak it, that's uncool. Some chicks won't take the load, others will, and some swallow the spunk like it's life-giving.

Blowing in her mouth when she doesn't want it is a great way to cut off the bj's, plus it's just not a cool thing to do. Try asking her to taste a little afterwards, and tell her how much you'd love to go in her mouth, maybe she'll work with you...but if she won't, she won't, and it shouldn't be unloaded on her by surprise.

Hengman
03-24-2008, 07:17 PM
DAMN! LOL

Well, thanks.

I still always wanted to blow a load into a girl's mouth. It's some funny fetish for me.

Argo navis
03-24-2008, 09:01 PM
Ah, blowjobs :) I got a funny, different outlook on that.

For some reason, I am hardwired to feel pain a lot less than most of my peers. This has been constant through my life - I just feel less pain. I feel other normal skin feelings, temperature especially, but pain, not much really.

So I NEED chicks to grab me hard when they blow me. So hard sometimes they're scared of hurting me - when I basically start feeling something. I said it once, I love them TIGHT in all interactions, for a reason.

SO to wrap up two answers in one :
- I agree with the "some chicks love to swallow, etc."
In bed, GUIDE AND CHEER 'EM UP. Propose to try things slowly : instead of masturbating less, get her to do different things to you like her masturbating you while giving head, playing with her tongue or teeth differently, etc.

On the cumming thing, do it gradually also, teach her how to love it : always be very clean and smell good there and teach her to enjoy feeling your sex anywhere on her body.

ALL girls I have known love to feel it on their tits, typically. Also, whenever I have difficulties during oral, it's often because I can sense tension on the side of the milf.

So thought binding, Pavlov and NLP to the rescue : turn it into 69's, and work hard on giving the girl wild orgasms that way while you are in her mouth. Repeat as needed for her to drip as soon as she feels you in her mouth - with some luck and patience, she'll BEG you to try to swallow every single drop.

ARaycher
03-24-2008, 09:56 PM
When you're about to go, grab her head and hold it down. Kinda mean..but she'll understand what you want........and yes, i've done it. haa

BangBang
03-25-2008, 07:11 AM
Sworn -

1. Being drunk didn't help your case. The term "whiskey dick" doesn't exist without reason. Try it sober next time and the problem might just vanish by itself.

2. The advice about jerking off less is a valid point; although I will disagree that a woman can't do a fast jerking motion or be as tight as your hand with her mouth.....just have to meet the right girls. :D

3. Don't be afraid to let her know what you like. When she does something that REALLY feels good, let her know. I've found that she'll appreciate the positive reinforcement (she's most likely VERY worried about being good) and that kind of talk (the "dont stops" and "just like that") really gets the juices flowing. :p

Hengman -

No sneaky tricks for you, but try getting her opinions on the subject during conversation before she's on you. If she's dead set against it, she'll let you know right then and there. If she doesn't, you're cleared to give it a shot (pun intended), just pump her BT through the roof while she's blowing you by playing with her, let her know you're gonna and most likely she won't stop, she'll TRY HARDER. :D

Decibel
03-25-2008, 08:05 AM
No sneaky tricks for you, but try getting her opinions on the subject during conversation before she's on you. If she's dead set against it, she'll let you know right then and there. If she doesn't, you're cleared to give it a shot (pun intended), just pump her BT through the roof while she's blowing you by playing with her, let her know you're gonna and most likely she won't stop, she'll TRY HARDER. :D

Tell her that no girl has ever gotten you off with a BJ. Keep insisting, and she may want to take up the challenge. Maybe a sneaky trick.

Hooter
03-25-2008, 04:13 PM
DAMN! LOL

Well, thanks.

I still always wanted to blow a load into a girl's mouth. It's some funny fetish for me.

I don't see it as a fetish, it's actually just pretty basic GREAT stuff.

Like I said...work with her. Get her really into it, telling her how fucking amzing if feels. Start prepping a bit with stuff like "OH my my god you feel so incredible with your lips around my cock, you're going to make me come so hard when it's time..." and see where she goes with that. She might at that point tell you to warn her when...or more likely, will get into it even more. Talking about how hard she is going to make you blow (don't forget to always focus on the fact that it's because of her, ie. not "I'm going to come so hard", but "YOU are going to make me come so hard, YOU'RE lips feel so fucking amazing." The more invested she feels...the better the chances of her taking the load.

Women get really turned on if they feel they are giving you the best ever, so make her feel that way. If you really get her in that state...then try just suggesting..."Oh god...I am going to come so hard in your mouth, it's going to feel so amazing...." and see how she reacts to that. Might get you there.

Hengman
03-25-2008, 05:18 PM
Alright, just a short story from my past that I remember quite well (it's saved as a doc on my computer as a LR):

There was this chick that I went VERY direct on and met her through myspace. She was an 8. I gave her my number and she immediately calls. OK, so I just build rapport and more rapport. Found out that she was attracted to me when I screened her with, "I only date girls who have nice personalities." She complies to that and works hard to get to me. OK, she got me.

So, we met up a week later, and we heavily make out. We also dry hump for a bit. Asked her if she liked blowjobs, but she said that she has never done it and that she finds it nasty. I'm like, "Really? Well, girls who give blowjobs are girls I can stay with." I pull down her shirt and her bra just to lick her tits (didn't unhook all of the way). OK. Things are going good. She grabs my dick and we make out more. So, she stops. We go back into making out. I'm like, "So, you're enjoying this. Now, suck." I whip out my dick.

First thing that happens -- she is shocked. I think I just triggered her reactions. Now, I stopped. She's like, "No, I can't...can't do it." Go back into making out... I'm like bored as fuck now. I bring back up the topic. She rejects. I then just get a handjob.

So, instead, I pull down her skirt and panties, take off her shirt and bra, and fuck the living shit out of her.

...

So, I got LMRed before for BJs. I had buyer's remorse after this lay.

I get LMRed for BJs. There were only like 10 or so girls that I've ONS with that actually gave me blowjobs. I just never gave any of them a mugshot :(

I'll follow the advices until I get that virgin faceshot on a girl and call her a criminal.

Hooter
03-25-2008, 05:32 PM
I'm like, "So, you're enjoying this. Now, suck." I whip out my dick.

First thing that happens -- she is shocked.

LOL. Women like being told what to do, but maybe that was a bit much.

In all seriousness, if you'd had 10 girls down on you and nobody has taken it...time to get to work.

With this girl, rather than command her to do something she has already told you she has never done and think is nasty...you need to identify that almost like the obstacle...and overcome it. And we know that takes a bit more finesse than the approach you used.

Maybe a bit more success had you let her stroke you awhile, and then just ask her to give it a tiny kiss, just a little one. Get her to comply, and let her slowly get comfortable with the idea. Let that lead to "just lick me with the tip of your tongue for a second..." And every time she complies, pull her back up and kiss her some more, telling her how good it felt.

Be a little more patient and work up a routine for this...

Damn I'm ready for one myself now but need to wait till tomorrow night :D

Hengman
03-25-2008, 06:18 PM
LOL. Women like being told what to do, but maybe that was a bit much.

In all seriousness, if you'd had 10 girls down on you and nobody has taken it...time to get to work.

With this girl, rather than command her to do something she has already told you she has never done and think is nasty...you need to identify that almost like the obstacle...and overcome it. And we know that takes a bit more finesse than the approach you used.

Maybe a bit more success had you let her stroke you awhile, and then just ask her to give it a tiny kiss, just a little one. Get her to comply, and let her slowly get comfortable with the idea. Let that lead to "just lick me with the tip of your tongue for a second..." And every time she complies, pull her back up and kiss her some more, telling her how good it felt.

Be a little more patient and work up a routine for this...

Damn I'm ready for one myself now but need to wait till tomorrow night :D

Damn you, Ross Jeffries!

Nah, JP. I'm trying this, though.

I remember someone telling me the exact same thing. I just never remember what to do when it happens. Alright, I'm going to write a little message on my hand each time. Hopefully she doesn't read. :cool: I'm going to have to hardwire myself to let a girl enjoy my shot(s). I'll call it deer hunting in the LR/BJR when I'm successful. :eek:

BangBang
03-25-2008, 06:41 PM
....and then just ask her to give it a tiny kiss, just a little one. Get her to comply, and let her slowly get comfortable with the idea.

We're going to play a little game I like to call "Just the tip." :p

I was lucky enough to have found that grail before the community. Got set up with an 19 yr old cousin of my sisters friend when I was 25. Went to visit her in Pittsburgh (I was living in NY), she picks me up at the airport, thigh highs, skirt, no panties, I'm fingering her all the way to her apartment, we barely make it in the door and we're fucking, then I tell her I'm gonna cum and I heard those magic words that I almost couldn't believe:

"I want you to cum on my face." :eek:

I almost blew it right there, but managed to keep my composure long enough to give her what she asked for. Man I LOVE 19 yr olds. :p

Argo navis
03-25-2008, 06:49 PM
LMAO that one's awesome BangBang!! Gotta love my former "HBStyler" in that vein, the sports teacher/fashionist who partly changed my life. She loved beauty creams and cosmetics :)

When I fucked her she had little experience, didn't know vaginal orgasm could happen, etc : I did my duty. Little did we both know that the first time I'd incidentally "bless her" on her sex and.. well, whole chest that way...

She would go "how my god this feels great, it's so hot and sweet, I want more." AND LAP IT ALL!

As she had conditionned herself to like it for a lifetime :) And yeah, I am a gentleman like that - so I served her as she pleased. Girl is an AFOG, now married and very materialistic, and is the first girl ever who, for my birthday...

Offered me a tube of durex "Play" :)

sworn
03-26-2008, 04:09 PM
well it was actually my first time getting head id only gotten handjobs before. would that matter?

Hotspur
03-26-2008, 04:41 PM
well it was actually my first time getting head id only gotten handjobs before. would that matter?

Yes, for the reasons of sexual conditioning that I discussed earlier.

It will be harder to come from a wholly new experience.

Decibel
03-26-2008, 05:08 PM
Well, I have to respectfully disagree about facials. I find orgasms from intercourse are more enjoyable, and sometimes smattering the face of someone you love can be distressing to both parties.
Back to Hengman's command, you do need to sometimes insist. In your case, without saying anything, when you have her very aroused, just get your penor close to her mouth, and she may comply. Commanding does work at times, when it's a lower level of compliance like a hand job.

Argo navis
03-26-2008, 07:01 PM
dB : actually, facial is a wonderful compliment to women who like it. Think about it this way, and re-read my last post in Hypnotica's thread :

Women are educated to be "socially proper beings who don't set AFCs out of their comfort zone by being sexual".

But they WANT to be sexual : due to the fact their body is hardwired for longer orgasms, it also is hardwired for a higher sex drive than men - one quote from a former pivot : "treat us like princesses in life and sluts in the bedroom."

So, to give them maximum pleasure in the bedroom, it is actually very important that the alpha man they have elected as their man cheers them up and guides them. It is very important to be tactfully domineering there - for them to let go of their conditionning, they're not "socially disgusting sluts" past that point, they are wonderful sexual beings as per their alpha leader's command.

It sets them free - because their alpha is taking responsibilty for their slutty behavior. That is why they love proper dirty talk too.

This, and then, still about facial : feeling the man come is a great reward. Not only she's been set free and sexually dominated by their man, she has succeeded in eventually "beating his resistance" and being so desirable he couldn't help it.

It has been said in this thread, I tell you again : some girls would DIE to give head (most actually) and some want - and will beg - for your cum, the ultimate "triumph" over your manlyhood to those girls, the ultimate gratification.

I am saying this because I've had the beggars, like others in this very thread.
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With this in mind, sneakingly forcing her to swallow IS humiliating, disgusting, and a sad way to go about selfish intercourse - an ugly violation of the golden rule.

BangBang
03-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Yeah, that time the girl asked for it so since she was into it I was happy to oblige. Hasn't happened since, but I know plenty of guys who've never had the opportunity so I've checked it off my list.

I think like Argo was saying so long as they're into it. Unless I know, I don't go, so I always make sure I know.

I was fooling around with this Russian woman I worked with, we'd had sex a few times, then we were out for drinks one night with people and we got to talking about swallowing and how a lot of women won't (or at least say that they won't). She's like "Really, I don't understand that, I love it." I closed my jaw, made the mental note and later that night, not only did she, but she pushed me off and didn't leave me much choice. It was great. :D

Decibel - I'm with you on the fact that they have got to be into it. Anyone that just goes and gives a girl a facial she isn't expecting or is just doing to make you happy isn't cool. IMHO

Hengman
03-27-2008, 05:24 AM
Yay!

Alright, I got that down guys.

So Bang, did she have a strong accent?

BangBang
03-27-2008, 05:16 PM
So Bang, did she have a strong accent?

She certainly did. Also the most perfect set of tits I've EVER seen - or had the pleasure of playing with. :D

Spin
03-29-2008, 01:19 PM
i can actaulyl relate to u, every girl i have gotten head form i have cum in their mouth but for one, which was my girl firend of 8 months now she wsant bad she tried at least 30 times and not once have i came, it was probably just mental cuz the first tiem she did it she didnt finish bc she had to leave