How to get her?

[gooch]

Ok so I found out about this site via conan o'brien last night and I figured why not give it a shot? Basically (and obviously) there's a girl....and I so totally want to basically go out with this girl, but let's get to the nitty gritty details first.

This girl works in front of me in a shopping mall. I work in a kiosk and I've worked there since september, and it took me about 3 months to actually talk to this girl. So then from january to mid february i found every excuse to go into her store and flirt with her right. I ended up finding out that she goes to my university and that she's 3 years older than me too, which means she's graduating this year. Then, Valentine's day came and opportunity presented itself and so I got her a rose and chocolate and all that junk. That's when she told me that there's someone else. After that I essentially ignored her everytime i was at work for about a month in an effort to forget about her. But then she started saying hi and started talking to me!!! I figure it's because she's just nice and doesn't want to seem like a bitch.....but then it's like she's the one that always initiates conversation now for the past month. Usually it was me going over there, but now it's her coming to me. The problem here is figuring out how to get rid of the boyfriend when I've never even seen or met him. I do, however, know that there is one because I have a friend who is a friend with her :). So basically, how am I supposed to get this girl?

[pr0x]

Welcome to the forums. Somethings that I noticed that you did wrong was first taking to long to aproach her. Instead of 3 months it should have been 3 seconds.Search for "3 second rule" another thing that I noticed was that after you talked to her you would go into her work everyday. This makes you seem needy like you need her. You should have made her come visit you or visit her less often. Giving her roses and chocolate for valentines was a bad idea to. You telegraphed to much interest when maybe she was not comfortable enough around you. I remember someone said "Don't buy her anygifts until she has given you the pussy." As for getting rid of the boyfriend read this. http://venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3

[gooch]

well i didn't go EVERYDAY, but everyday i was working which is like 3 times a week haha. i'm soo doomed.

[pr0x]

Your not doomed yet. Just stop seeing her for about a month and then come back a new man. Just read all the articles and the Mystery Method book and you should be fine the next time you see her. Which should be in around a month.

[SONICBOObs]

One thing that used to scare me with the idea of waiting a month was that some other guy would come and shabang with her. Of course I'd only get hung up on girls that were virgies so its a different story.

But alot of guys have probably banged her and even if she's a "good girl" I always think what can she do with me that she hasn't done with any other guy. That's with girls who I start to itis over for one reason or the other. Theres probably not much new she can do with you thats going to happen in the next month.

With the fear of her getting with other guys out of the way, or atleast negated, you can concentrate on logically planning your way to get better before talking to her again.

You have more time to think about your strategy. Think about the other girls you'll mention. And make it all natural so you weave a picture in her mind of "Oh wow, ok so this guy is starting to find himself."

This can be done, you're going to put more thought into it.

[SONICBOObs]

Haha Rewok is soo right. Just go learn the stuff. I forgot you never read any of the stuff and you picked this off of Conan. I doubt all our thoughts are "detrimental advice," but they can be in a way. Get your hands on some info. Worth the money.

[Showcase]

I can't remember exactly where I heard this but in order to get the woman that you want, get good with women in general and you will know how to get that "specific" woman you want...if of course you even want her at that point :)

[SONICBOObs]

Sounds very David D like, but could be anyone..

[Hero]

Our shit is not dogmatic. Whatever u read here just use ur head and agree and disagree with anything u want

Anyway, I think what u want from this girl is for her to like you. In other words "Connection"

But Gooch! Dude!, u have a LOOOOOOT to learn.

We have to know a lot of important details about ur situation (We call them Field Reports or FRs) before we think of an analysis. But here is some foundation stuff

The gift thing is a BIG mistake! Don't do something super thoughtful unless she's ur long time friend or a girlfriend and its like ur 3rd anniversary or something

If a girl is a stranger or an acquaintance that is not sexually interested in you, we call the state she is in "Lock Up".

There are several steps before u hook up with her. This includes disarming lock up, creating attraction, increasing the girl's admiration and degree of excitement to let u fuck her (This is called buying temperature, Read about it in the article session by TD), other steps includes comfort, rapport, touching escalation (We call it "Kino"), establishing commonalities, establishing trust THEN comes connection. After connection comes kissing, move to a private location, foreplay, last minute resistance then sex.

Of course first u have to disarm Lock Up and establish attraction. But here is where most guys go wrong. ATTRACTION DOESN'T MEAN SHIT! Its only one of the first fucking steps, its important, but its not everything. If u just establish attraction without all the other important emotions (mentioned in the steps above) ur not going anywhere with her.

U can do all these steps in the same night. It doesn't have to happen in more than 4 hours. It does not have to be in a course of a million dates

Back to connection. There are 2 kinds of connection: On-Game connection and Off-Game connection.

Off-Game connection: Ur not gonna have a real believable connection with a girl only after u had sex. That way she can't accuses that u faked ur connection for alternatives motives. After that motive if fulfilled, why would u fake ur connection with her unless its real and sincere. That's why I think that if u reveal ur feelings to a girl after sex, ur chances of her feeling the same way is better. I'm not saying its guaranteed, I'm just saying its better. Cuz if u reveal ur feelings before sex she's just gonna automatically assume that u said that to get in her pants. Or because ur some loser who doesn't get laid and doesn't have experience with girls. But if u already got in her pants, she's gonna know that u mean it, and that u don't have any alternative motives so ur sincere.

On-Game connection: U have to establish some form of first impression connection. Cuz if u don't in her mind ur just "some guy". And she's not gonna have sex with "some guy". So when ur in the bar/club/mall/uni whatever, and she says she loves a certain writer of a book, u grab both her hands and say "OMG! I love (name of writer) did u read blah!). CONNECTION.

Of course if a guy said he likes that writer I wouldn't give a shit and be that excited about it. I'd be like "hmm me too". But remember with a girl the game is on. And ur not allowed to be dull and boring when u have something in common when the game is on. And rewarding her with interest supposed to be balances, I mean sure u can't be dull but u can't be too eager as well, I mean ... Dude READ THE BOOK!

Dude there is a GAZILLION things u have to know! All I explained here is the things u have to make her FEEL. But I didn't say shit about HOW. This post is already long, imagine if I explained the HOW part!

Dude ... read the book. After that we can be in the same level of analysis in discussing ur field report. We really can't explain all the basics here

Hope this helps

Peace :D