Johnny Soporno's Seductive Reasoning

[Wolf]

Johnny's Soporno's Seductive Reasoning is definitely worth checking out. He has many supportive ideas in his program. The best part about it is that it is absolutely free. He has many, many good points in his seminar despite the couple of positions I disagree with, not necessarily what you would disagree with but possibly. What I especially like about Johnny is that he is very helpful and easy to approach. He was also very kind enough to explain some concepts to me over the phone! If you're i nterested in understanding the concept of sexual liberation for yourself and learning how to explain it to women, developing inner game and having more confidence in yourself, this program is right for you. The link is: http://www.seductivereasoning.com/. Enjoy!

-Wolf

PS: Thanks for the advice Johnny

[alwaysmelancholy]

Thank you for your review... would you mind going into a bit more detail as to what types of concepts he covers in his videos?

I've downloaded them but it's alot of material so I'm wondering if I should watch these before some other books/videos that are in my mental-queue to watch/read (I get very behind :-)

[Sanj]

Hey Always melancholy,

I'd reccomend that ANYONE watches Johnny's video's before anything else. If you're ready for it - it will change your paradigm. :)

Peace~S.

[blade18rivers]

Highly recommended!

Johnny is one guy, in his own little way had contributed so much for the community.

High respects sending out to Johnny.

[SmoothDoc]

Johnny was one of the best speakers at the Real Man Conference 2008 alongside with AFCAdam.

He was certainly the best of all the speakers in answering the Q&A part after the presentation.

Furthermore in my opinion he is funny and intelligent. In my experience that's a rare combination.

Thundercat made a comment on his site that he heared some negative things about Johnny. Nothing really explained though.

So what I have seen and heared, he know his stuff and you can laugh with the guy. :D

Cu,

SmoothDoc

[Johnny Soporno]

Thanks fellas, for the kind and appreciative words!

I'm very pleased with the degree of mind-set reframing that has been taking place throughout the entire Community, moving away from 'techniques' and 'routines' into a more natural, self-accepting, guiltless connection with women...

I strongly encourage anyone who has never watched my "Intro to 'Seductive Reasoning' 101 (http://seductivereasoning.com)" seminar to go download it or stream it from one of the many sites which are sharing it for free.

...and for those of you who've watched it ONLY ONCE, please go back and re-watch it... BE PREPARED for RADICAL new understandings which couldn't possibly be gleaned from just one watching! In fact they generally require at least a few weeks between viewings, to collect Real World experience, before they will become crystal clear :)

I am presently touring Europe delivering my follow-up seminar,
"Applied 'Seductive Reasoning' 201", which I feel fantastically expands upon the paradigms of the initial seminar, and takes it tremendously further!

I am joined on this tour by my Primary Girlfriend, Violet Marcell (http://VioletMarcell.com), and we're working to help ensure that both men and women alike 'get it' and are able to put the new, enlightening paradigms to work in their lives.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2555/3820772586_d2b33a4911_o.jpg

So far on this tour, we have visited Oslo, Norway; Riga, Latvia; Nice, France; Geneva, Switzerland; and Moscow, Russia....

Our next Seminar stops are:

Aug 25th, Leeds, England
Aug 26th, Edinburgh, Scotland
Aug 27th, London, England

We then are doing a weekend intensive "Lifestyle Induction Workshop" (http://RecoveringPUAs.com) on the interspaced weekends

Aug 28-30th: Worthy Playboy Lifestyle Induction (http://www.RecoveringPUAs.com)

Sept 2nd, Trondheim, Norway

Sept 4th-6th: Lifestyle Induction workshop

the rest of September is TO BE DETERMINED -

If there's anyplace you might wish us to come work, please PM me on here, or email me directly to JohnnyS@AlphaCue.com

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

[RAMM]

The man who didn't count... that's huge:D
Johnny I love you(yeah, you should keep doing that man on man research :D)
I'm watching the free seminar for the first time, and enjoyin' it.

I am almost 23 and have never been on an LTR(hmmmm) but I have been "a man who didn't count" quite every single time I have been with a girl up to this point(and that's not really too many times).

It's sick.. how come girls in a relationship want to fuck me and free ones do not? Anyway.. I hope I can learn something from you and get some valuable relationships from now on..

[RAMM]

I've seen the first 4 hours of the seminar. OMG. I masturbate on that stuff. I agree with about everything you say Johnny..

If I wre to ask you a question it would be "after one rationally understands everything you say and decides he too want this kind of life and relationships, how does he start doing it one step at a time". I fear that I may want it yet not be able to get this whole way of being.. there are so many things blocking me.. there are certain fears and old patterns to overcome.. i dunno if you answer this question n the following 2 hours of video.. it's just a matter of time now :)
Thanks for everything father :)


EDITED: P.S. seen the website of Violet.. and yeah she could be my mther too :D

[RAMM]

Hey Johnny.. This is becoming more like a monologue.. sorry :D
Get this http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?p=151175#post151175

[Scotty D]

I watch/listen to Johnny's videos and interviews on a fairly regular basis, and I have also gone through his Worthy Playboy Lifestyle Induction (http://www.worthyplayboys.com/services.html), and I can honestly say that no one has had more of a positive impact on my life than Johnny.

Following Johnny's advice has always led to good things in my life, and I cannot imagine how my life would be right now had I never met him. His messages should, in my opinion, be viewed by all, and I pass them on to as many people as I can.

Johnny really gets you to understand things on a deep level, and it wasn't until recently that I noticed myself doing some things with unconscious competence that I did not notice before. I noticed when a friend of mine, a non-community guy, was talking to me about a girl I had hooked up with, he heard some of the things I said to her, that she was loving by the way, and told me that either I didn't respect her, or she didn't respect herself, and, "you don't talk to girls you respect like that, you talk to hoes like that"... I realized at that time how much differently I talk to girls now than before, and how differently it is from most guys who don't understand that a girl who is sexual, is a VERY good thing.

Having learned from Johnny, I really love women now(in more ways than just physical ;). I am loving life, and I am happy almost all of the time. I pretty much don't experience any sort of jealousy with girls now, and approach anxiety is only a memory to me. I highly encourage anyone and everyone who has the chance to take advantage of Johnny's teachings if possible.

-Scotty :)
Worthy Playboy Protege

[RAMM]

I watch/listen to Johnny's videos and interviews on a fairly regular basis, and I have also gone through his Worthy Playboy Lifestyle Induction (http://www.worthyplayboys.com/services.html), and I can honestly say that no one has had more of a positive impact on my life than Johnny.

Following Johnny's advice has always led to good things in my life, and I cannot imagine how my life would be right now had I never met him. His messages should, in my opinion, be viewed by all, and I pass them on to as many people as I can.

Johnny really gets you to understand things on a deep level, and it wasn't until recently that I noticed myself doing some things with unconscious competence that I did not notice before. I noticed when a friend of mine, a non-community guy, was talking to me about a girl I had hooked up with, he heard some of the things I said to her, that she was loving by the way, and told me that either I didn't respect her, or she didn't respect herself, and, "you don't talk to girls you respect like that, you talk to hoes like that"... I realized at that time how much differently I talk to girls now than before, and how differently it is from most guys who don't understand that a girl who is sexual, is a VERY good thing.

Having learned from Johnny, I really love women now(in more ways than just physical ;). I am loving life, and I am happy almost all of the time. I pretty much don't experience any sort of jealousy with girls now, and approach anxiety is only a memory to me. I highly encourage anyone and everyone who has the chance to take advantage of Johnny's teachings if possible.

-Scotty :)
Worthy Playboy Protege

Brother, my experience is totally consistent with yours.

I have read/seen stuff by EVERY PUA in the comunity..anything there is out there, I've seen it. And NOTHING ever had a similar impact on me to Johnny Soporno's seminar. NOTHING!

I mean I got instant unconscious competence. It took me like 2 days to realize it was seeing the seminar that even made me become THIS.

I've been in this euforic state for just the last 6 days man, and it has been the BEST week of my whole life. 3 weeks ago i was like thinking about suicide for some this tha happened and now I know I'll never be unhappy again.

What I got is combining Soporno with Mehow and Eckhart Tolle. Every woman cracks open to me instantly and I confess to you guys I've never been out sarging, I've only done social circle game before and only like very very few cold approaches. So it's not like something I learned like a technique. It's pure inner game.

I'm pulling like 3-4 new girls every day on Facebook. I've been good with online gamefor a while now, but this is like 10 times faster! It's direct game on Facebook. I'm like just 5 minutes in the conversation and they're already into me, it's crazy. And I work all day long so I only got a couple hours every day to get those girls interested in the product :D

So in just one week I have quite a lot of girls that I took from facebook to MSN and 2 of them I really love they are complexively HB9s, not like just looks, I care especially about personallity you know. So i fucking love them but then, last night when I thought I CAN'T GET ANY MUCH BETTER THAN THIS.. IT DID GET BETTER!

I met this woman that is like 20 on the scale I used my whole life. Like on a scale from 1 to 10.. she's really 20. She's a fucking goddess. She's like Azazel's Wolf with a vagina(round of applause thank you :D). AND SHE WANT ME. I didn't game her. She's gaming me. I mean not even gaming me. She's just like me you know, she's enlightened and direct and free from the social rules, just like Soporno's girls.. she already has tha more than me.

She's like anti-flaking.. a total DOER. Like "Let's do this, NOW", whaever tha is. So she's like "Ramm, you are what I was looking for the last few years" and that's that, totally straight and you know, not like a whore. I fell in love instantly! My heart has been beating crazy the whole day. Went out with some friends and I was like a social God, I've never done anything like this before without alcohol, it's nuts. They were quite sure I was on some sort of drugs like anfetamine.

So.. I hope Johnny will read all of this cuz I wanna thank him.. I have no words left to show my gratitude, he gave me in 1 day what the whole pickup scene couldn't give me in like 6 years of research and study.

I go out and it's like the shooter game Unreal Tournament 2003(Luv it)...
I kinda hear the bad guy's voice saying "Double kill, multi kill, Monster kill, ultra kill, HOLY S*IT!" And then GODLIKE! (25kills in a row).

I know I'm delirious right now ahahaha fuck it.. it's a perfect world!

NAMASTE

[azazels_wolf]

LOL man, I am very happy for you! :p :D It is great to see you enjoying life again so much. Big congrats on finding the girl of your dreams, hahaha.

[RAMM]

enjoying life again so much
You mean like this? I've never enjoyed life anything like this. This is even more than what I hoped to be able to do in PUA field ever.

I thought It was a lot of hard work to get good, and once you're good you have a lot of hard work to do to get women. But this inner game is superpower! Effortless and painless, and plain fun 24/7 wtf!? This ain't even fair to my old self ahaahha he couldn't have accepted there were guys like me out there (ok this was supposed to be funny, at least I enjoy it)

[Johnny Soporno]

I watch/listen to Johnny's videos and interviews on a fairly regular basis, and I have also gone through his Worthy Playboy Lifestyle Induction, and I can honestly say that no one has had more of a positive impact on my life than Johnny.

I thought It was a lot of hard work to get good, and once you're good you have a lot of hard work to do to get women. But this inner game is superpower! Effortless and painless, and plain fun 24/7 wtf!?

Thanks so much fellas, now the challenge is to let other guys know about it! ;)

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

[RAMM]

LOL man, I am very happy for you! :p :D It is great to see you enjoying life again so much. Big congrats on finding the girl of your dreams, hahaha.

See.. those 2-3 weeks I had the awakening in my heart center. Isn't it crazy that it all happened while I was watching that particular video? If it's true that we activate when we learn something for the better, then it must have been that I learned about my natural poligamy inclination.

But was I stupid at that time. See, in those weeks I really felt unstopable, euforia 24/7.. you must know what that feels like.. everyone else, with their problems and everything looked like dumb or mad to me.. I had forgotten 22 years of pain, in just a couple of days! Had I not forgotten I would have used that state to learn even more from it. I only dream about living in that blissful state for ever..

[azazels_wolf]

See.. those 2-3 weeks I had the awakening in my heart center. Isn't it crazy that it all happened while I was watching that particular video? If it's true that we activate when we learn something for the better, then it must have been that I learned about my natural poligamy inclination.


Perhaps it also helped you to release your fears and surrender to love, in freedom. That is when the heart opens to such an extent.


But was I stupid at that time. See, in those weeks I really felt unstopable, euforia 24/7.. you must know what that feels like.. everyone else, with their problems and everything looked like dumb or mad to me.. I had forgotten 22 years of pain, in just a couple of days! Had I not forgotten I would have used that state to learn even more from it. I only dream about living in that blissful state for ever..

I do know what that is like, and you will get there again. But you'll have to let go like that again... you have, in a subtle way, often been holding yourself back. Can you figure out what that hesitation is and where it comes from?

P.S. I will get back to you as soon as I can, I apologize for being very busy again lately.

[RAMM]

Perhaps it also helped you to release your fears and surrender to love, in freedom. That is when the heart opens to such an extent.
Yet it seemed to have been aused by an external thing. It seems that when you discover something new that is positive, you receive that as a gift.


I do know what that is like, and you will get there again. But you'll have to let go like that again... you have, in a subtle way, often been holding yourself back. Can you figure out what that hesitation is and where it comes from?
I know what you mean.. I know that hesitation pretty well, I see it in people.. but I don't see it in myself. I'm not saying it isn't there.. I just don't see it. I would jump out of an airplane to get that, without thinking twice. Among the 4 hold backs that Castaneda mentions, I feel I have certainly overcome the first one which is fear. I have a huge desire to get there and no fear of changing or doing whatever is needed, so the way I see it I can't be holding myself back.. maybe my shadow?

P.S. I will get back to you as soon as I can, I apologize for being very busy again lately.
No need to apologize bro :) I have overcome that stupid impatience that has been driving me crazy for years xD

[azazels_wolf]

Yet it seemed to have been aused by an external thing. It seems that when you discover something new that is positive, you receive that as a gift.


That can be one of the occurrences, yes...



I know what you mean.. I know that hesitation pretty well, I see it in people.. but I don't see it in myself. I'm not saying it isn't there.. I just don't see it. I would jump out of an airplane to get that, without thinking twice. Among the 4 hold backs that Castaneda mentions, I feel I have certainly overcome the first one which is fear. I have a huge desire to get there and no fear of changing or doing whatever is needed, so the way I see it I can't be holding myself back.. maybe my shadow?


Yes, you are right, it is your shadow that holds you back. This has been the case most of the time.



No need to apologize bro :) I have overcome that stupid impatience that has been driving me crazy for years xD

Haha coolness, and I appreciate your patience. :)

[RAMM]

Yes, you are right, it is your shadow that holds you back. This has been the case most of the time.

I think that the shadow rite alone is not enough in my case.. I need a more Don Juan like shock therapy. He said that when breaking patterns(new behaviour) one's his assemblage point starts shaking around, and if that behaviour is continued in time it can lead to a full shift. And I totally agree with that. One simple example of this(not shocking though) is when I travel, when I'm in some place new.. I don't have to try to be present, it's automatic. I also get tired more easily though..

[azazels_wolf]

I think that the shadow rite alone is not enough in my case.. I need a more Don Juan like shock therapy. He said that when breaking patterns(new behaviour) one's his assemblage point starts shaking around, and if that behaviour is continued in time it can lead to a full shift. And I totally agree with that. One simple example of this(not shocking though) is when I travel, when I'm in some place new.. I don't have to try to be present, it's automatic. I also get tired more easily though..

The shadow doesn't become your ally through shock. The shadow becomes your ally by being truly and openly honest with yourself, and loving yourself regardless.

[RAMM]

The shadow doesn't become your ally through shock. The shadow becomes your ally by being truly and openly honest with yourself, and loving yourself regardless.

I know that is the final step, notarguingwith that. I'm just saying that once you see your shadow face to face, you can do that, but in the normal state of consciousness, no matter how long you look for it, you'll never see it. You need a deeper state of consciousness, that's where these alternative therapies come into play for me.

I think I told you about the phobia I developed after my accident? I was totally scared of being in a car, I couldn't trust any driver and my body had strong physical reactions to it..
No matter how much I would have wanted to embrace that fear, accept it or whatever, it would have been useless. Instead I got into my fathers car, 3 hours every day, got into deep presence, became totally aware of the muscles contracting and every other thing happening in my body and though breathing I managed to stop that. It took me two weeks of everyday practice. Incidentaly, facing a fear also puts me in a state of deep awareness, but only when I am ready to face that, instead of resisting it. I think the deep awareness that I got through this exercise alone lasted for about 6 full weeks.. I need to do something similar to regain that.. I feel ego has become stronger and I have some strong reactions to people, I get annoyed by stuff.. and maybe it's just lack of energy but meditation alone doesn't seem to put me deep in that much.. but now I understand at least in part the mechanics so I'll get it back asap..

I also think this is one of the most important things I could learn from Castaneda.. alternate "shock" therapies.. work faster and stronger..
Might also be my fiery nature, might be the right thing for me :)

EDITED: This is so much like Hypnotica's dildo yoga, and Tyler Durden's Human Scarifices..

[azazels_wolf]

I know that is the final step, notarguingwith that. I'm just saying that once you see your shadow face to face, you can do that,


But you already have.


but in the normal state of consciousness, no matter how long you look for it, you'll never see it. You need a deeper state of consciousness, that's where these alternative therapies come into play for me.


If you are not reaching a deeper state during the meditations, then you are not doing them correctly.


I think I told you about the phobia I developed after my accident? I was totally scared of being in a car, I couldn't trust any driver and my body had strong physical reactions to it..
No matter how much I would have wanted to embrace that fear, accept it or whatever, it would have been useless. Instead I got into my fathers car, 3 hours every day, got into deep presence, became totally aware of the muscles contracting and every other thing happening in my body and though breathing I managed to stop that. It took me two weeks of everyday practice. Incidentaly, facing a fear also puts me in a state of deep awareness, but only when I am ready to face that, instead of resisting it. I think the deep awareness that I got through this exercise alone lasted for about 6 full weeks..


You saw and accepted your fear there, and worked past it. But the stuff still hidden in your shadow is what you DON'T see right now.


I need to do something similar to regain that.. I feel ego has become stronger and I have some strong reactions to people, I get annoyed by stuff.. and maybe it's just lack of energy but meditation alone doesn't seem to put me deep in that much.. but now I understand at least in part the mechanics so I'll get it back asap..


You need the longer periods of inner silence.


I also think this is one of the most important things I could learn from Castaneda.. alternate "shock" therapies.. work faster and stronger..
Might also be my fiery nature, might be the right thing for me :)

EDITED: This is so much like Hypnotica's dildo yoga, and Tyler Durden's Human Scarifices..

Have you read The Power of Now? Read it again.

[RAMM]

But you already have.
I did that time.. :)
Need to meet it again..


If you are not reaching a deeper state during the meditations, then you are not doing them correctly.
hmmm I wasn't meditating much about deeper states of consciousness, I was meditating about inner silence and it did work.. for some weeks..


You saw and accepted your fear there, and worked past it. But the stuff still hidden in your shadow is what you DON'T see right now.
True. For example now I do see when the shadow manifests.. but I don't always have the inflexible intent to over come it..


You need the longer periods of inner silence.
Totally true :)


Have you read The Power of Now? Read it again.
I think I'll reread A new Earth though.. same stuff, more coherent though.
You don't believe much in "shock therapy", do you? :)

[azazels_wolf]

True. For example now I do see when the shadow manifests.. but I don't always have the inflexible intent to over come it..


You don't have to "overcome it". You just have to recognize it, and silence your mind. And remember that love is more powerful than anything - and often a much better solution.


I think I'll reread A new Earth though.. same stuff, more coherent though.
You don't believe much in "shock therapy", do you? :)

There are no shortcuts for this one.

[braddeltone]

You don't have to "overcome it". You just have to recognize it, and silence your mind. And remember that love is more powerful than anything - and often a much better solution.



There are no shortcuts for this one.

yeah, ho shortcuts. just recognize it.
:cool: