David Deangelo Mastery Program

[musicmad]

Has anyone gone through this program and is it any good?
In the list where it says what you will learn in the program, one of the things is"the ONLY way to get a women who just wants to be friends to start feeling attraction for you"

Can someone tell me what that is now? And is it david or one of the speakers who says about it? And what disk is it on?


James

[Vision]

It's a good program, buy it.

[Pashin]

It is a very good program. It covers both internal game and techniques.

Mystery's appearance and his couch routine are worth the price of the program.

[JuiceTerry]

Well, in my opinion, it is one of the very best products out there.

It is very thorough and complete. There is so much killer content on this with very little filler.
DeAngelos charisma and wit just shimmers through this product. I think DavidD is actually very intellectual and completely understands what he is talking about - unlike so many charlatans out there at the moment who are idiots masquerading as gurus.

Even though this was filmed in late 2004 it is actually timeless.

This product covers *everything* related to pick up and beyond: tactics,re-framing, push-pull, routines, Jungian psychology, Myers Briggs psychology, inner game and an excellent range of guest speakers like Mystery, Tyler Durden, David X, Swinggcat, Orion and Hypnotica.

You will get so much value from this and it can be quite humorous and entertaining in parts too! Clearly he put a lot of time and effort into creating and writing this.

It may be a pricey, sure, but as this Mastery programme will enrich the quality of your life so much, you can't afford to not buy it.

[666]

Yes, yes, and yes.

Go buy it now.

It may fuck with you for a while as a lot of it is inner game. But when the guest speakers' stuff kicks in you'll be back on Planet Earth.

Really good shit.

[Bret Rigby]

By far the program I come back to again and again.

[Slick]

Thanks guys.. I was thinking about purchasing this aswell.

[Sanj]

Awesome is an understatement. Highly reccomended :)

~Sanj.

[Neziak]

Has anyone gone through this program and is it any good?
In the list where it says what you will learn in the program, one of the things is"the ONLY way to get a women who just wants to be friends to start feeling attraction for you"

Can someone tell me what that is now? And is it david or one of the speakers who says about it? And what disk is it on?


James

I'm doing it just now and it is great.

But on disc 4 of the Approaching women in bars and clubs there is a Tyler section on social construct that blew my mind So I'd also look that up.

[BBraveheart]

Before I found VA I had watched some of David D's material and the problem I have with it is he doesn't teach any kind of system or method of how to actually approach. He teaches cocky and funny, and role playing, things like that, but there is no systematic approach. And realistically after seeing some of his videos he's very reliant on his guests to provide the best material, he really only teaches negs and teasing dominance. Not that that's bad but half his students would probably get blown out before they could even get in set to use his material. There's no focus on entering a set, body language, or delivery. He has a body language seminar but the person who gives the best information in that seminar is Mystery, so why not go straight to the source and use VA's material?

[The_Dream]

sorry guys.
bought all DYD staff.
re-read and re-read BBraveheart answer. this is the answer.

[Blanket]

which David D program is it that has all these speakers? Double Your Dating? and where can you buy it

[BBraveheart]

His Approaching DVD set has Mystery, Tyler Durden, Will, Craig and a couple other guys. It's a decent DVD set but it's 5 years old. It's not nearly as up to date as what you get with revelation currently and in my opinion not nearly as good. Again, the speakers don't display any kind of system or method (mystery discusses the M3 model but you don't need to buy the program for that as you can get it anywhere online for free), they basically give tips on things you can do or say to women. They're not bad tips but picture a new PUA student walking straight into a set, facing the group, speaking quickly, leaning in and reciting the tip they learned from the DVD. In the end they're going to get blown out because they're not doing the other important things properly. Granted DYD does have a body language program but why the heck buy 5 different DVD programs to get the info (and arguably worse, less organized info) than what you get with a single revelation book or DVD package. Bottom line: DYD will give you tips (ie don't face the group with your body), revelation will teach you WHY the tip works (ie value differential). I'd rather learn WHY something works then blindly memorizing a list of tips to pickup women. Just my honest opinion after seeing what both products have to offer.

[Grim]

His Approaching DVD set has Mystery, Tyler Durden, Will, Craig and a couple other guys. It's a decent DVD set but it's 5 years old. It's not nearly as up to date as what you get with revelation currently and in my opinion not nearly as good. Again, the speakers don't display any kind of system or method (mystery discusses the M3 model but you don't need to buy the program for that as you can get it anywhere online for free), they basically give tips on things you can do or say to women. They're not bad tips but picture a new PUA student walking straight into a set, facing the group, speaking quickly, leaning in and reciting the tip they learned from the DVD. In the end they're going to get blown out because they're not doing the other important things properly. Granted DYD does have a body language program but why the heck buy 5 different DVD programs to get the info (and arguably worse, less organized info) than what you get with a single revelation book or DVD package. Bottom line: DYD will give you tips (ie don't face the group with your body), revelation will teach you WHY the tip works (ie value differential). I'd rather learn WHY something works then blindly memorizing a list of tips to pickup women. Just my honest opinion after seeing what both products have to offer.

I agree. I've never really liked David D's material. Not organized and the information is kind of scattered!

[The International]

I have read DYD and the Mystery Method, and I know the books like the back of my hand. I have Revelation, Cocky Comedy, and Advanced Dating. I've never taken a look at David D's Mastery Program, but probably because I haven't needed it so far. I think Mystery and David are both very good teachers and each has their own advantages and disadvantages.

Mystery: As the rock star of the pick up community, Mystery's discipline is great for those who want to put a systematic approach to pick up. It's awesome. There are several things that David doesn't cover originally that work wonders for me. One example would be the peacock concept. I have a colorful collection of fedora hats that I wear out at night. That's my peacock, and every one knows exactly who I am because of those hats, and I use them in my game to the max. Only privileged females may take my hat off and wear it for themselves, and that's only after they've proven themselves. I love it, but as a local aspiring PUA I see a lot of my comrades depending too much on his structure and sequence of events. When that sequence gets interrupted their game falls apart. That's okay though. It's all a part of the growing process. I had this problem once. I'd plague the back of my mind, asking myself whether it was appropriate to go into A2 or C1, so on and so forth. I had that problem too that's where David D came in for me.

David DeAngelo: It wasn't necessarily his structure or method that caught my eye, because in DYD he doesn't hammer out a clear method out for the reader. What he does do is give you some inner game tools to work with. I read this book after Mystery Method and hated it for a while because it didn't have a set method, but then I came to realize as I was out working on my game that some of the things he was talking about pertaining to women and how they act are very true. For example, Mystery says beautiful women use what we call a bitch shield to repel unworthy suitors. David acknowledges this as well, but goes on further to say that since they've been beautiful for quite some time they get used to others spoiling them, so when they don't get their way they 'act out'. To me this translates over to the Mystery Method as negs coming from the target. I acknowledged both truths, but when a woman attempted to neg me or test me I thought to myself "She's being a spoiled little brat, just like David D was saying." That devalued her, not only on the surface but in my mind. I reacted accordingly and seven hours later I was sealing the deal. One fundamental difference is that Mystery encourages canned material and David speaks against it for various understandable reasons.

Both: Both gurus are saying the same thing just in a different manor. Both say confidence and humor are the way to go. Both say that this is meant to enrich our lives, not define them. Both say money money, power, and looks can be overcome. Both say we have to approach a beautiful woman from a different angle. The majority of their audience is male, and we tend to be very systematic about things which is why Mystery probably works for more of us than David does. However, if there is a part of MM that's getting you down I encourage you to see what David has to say. Like I said before he's probably going to say the same thing just in a different manor, and he may give you an example that clicks with you.

I've found that using the following materials has improved my game tremendously.
Mystery Method/Revelations: Mystery's original work and updated work gives me a systematic foundation to work off of.
Cocky Comedy: Mystery tells us that after a certain point we need to create our own canned material. Get David D's Cocky Comedy set and you'll be able to create original material for every stage of MM, and it gives you a good improvisational mindset. This will help you create new material on the fly, no matter where you are or what you're doing. Advanced Dating for me, however, was a waste of my time.