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JohnJohnJohnson
03-20-2007, 11:15 PM
From what I've read, Mystery discovered the dynamics of pick up through a combination of creativity and rote experimentation, with amazing results. It would be great to see what he could figure out about day-game, or already has.

CrimsonKing
03-21-2007, 09:01 AM
Mystery, as well as a lot of other major PUAs, have done a fair bit of talk about day game. You just have to look for it.

JohnJohnJohnson
03-21-2007, 10:03 AM
Thanks. I'm actually not talking about other PUAs, although they definitely have said a lot of stuff on day game! Juggler, in particular...

Looking for it has so far yielded no results. I'm sure you're right, but if you could just point me in the right direction...

Thanks,
JJJ

CrimsonKing
03-21-2007, 12:10 PM
I'll have a look for you if I can get some time to myself tonight (busy social life and all) and see what I can find.

JohnJohnJohnson
03-22-2007, 05:12 PM
...any luck?

Thor
03-22-2007, 06:44 PM
I personally dont remember him ever mentioning day game. I think that TMM is trying supplement this now by adding day game into their "Magic Bullets" e-book and their recent Phone Game interview.

JohnJohnJohnson
03-23-2007, 02:14 AM
Yes, they are, but that's Sinn's work... he may have figured stuff out but he's not as much of a discoverer as Mystery is.

That's why I think it would be great if Mystery turned his attention towards the lighter side of gaming...

relics
03-23-2007, 01:48 PM
I think he talked about it in one of the interview series with Savoy.

smooth_talking007
07-02-2007, 10:21 PM
Yes I think remember him mention day game in that interview series and he said the same principals apply, but you need to tone down the intensity and energy levels of your interactions a lot compared to clubs/bars so it is more congruent with your environement. Best solution would be to go out yourself and practice day game keeping the general MM principles in mind and after some experience with different sets you can calibrate your energy levels etc. and see what is more successful.

Showcase
07-02-2007, 11:19 PM
I'm not sure if anything was published with Mystery explaining day game, but it was talked about in his bootcamp.

Rocco
07-03-2007, 02:50 AM
I'm not sure if anything was published with Mystery explaining day game, but it was talked about in his bootcamp.

Are you allowed to share with us what was talked about, for free?

flashgordon
10-22-2007, 03:49 AM
ANy luck johnjohnjohn?

Im trying street game.
Ive found 2 good achieves.

If you interested pm me.

You got any gd info pm me too. I hear badboys the best for this stuff.

BoyScout
10-22-2007, 06:21 AM
IIRC from a seminar, Mystery stated he was interested in women he met
at night clubs and stripper joints -- he just wasn't interested in day game.

Sinn is really interested in DG, and his DG seminar is worth its weight in
gold, but it is not in-field.

fg> I hear badboys the best for this stuff.

Cortez is the DG power-house on that team. it is just magical watching him
stop a 5-set on the street, and have them all clamouring to give him their
phone #'s and emails in a few minutes.

if you're in T.O., look up McMaax -- his mall-game is mind-blowing, but
his writings are all club oriented last I looked.

Best,

-BS

mR. PotenTial
10-25-2007, 03:49 PM
I'll look up McMaax to see what he's about.

Unfortunately, overall, there just isn't that much stuff out on 'day-game' and there needs to be more of it.

compulsive1
10-25-2007, 05:59 PM
day game would probably interest me more than the club/stripper type game. i'll search for it. i know there's this website out about day/street game. not too sure if i can post the site up here though. PM me if anyone is interested.

Mr Stickypants
10-28-2007, 10:00 AM
Just about all I do is day game and I have had a little bit of trouble finding any tips on it. I've found that I have to kind of make my own way in that arena.
I almost never go out at night as I am getting my masters degree and have tons of work EVERY night.
Being forced to hunt by day has taught me a lot but, of course, I'm still learning. If you have any questions or want any little routines just ask--maybe I can be of assistance.
Rock on fellas!!

ShoVengeance
10-31-2007, 02:45 AM
Yea I'm more of a day game guy myself at the moment(until I turn 21) and here's just a few things I've noticed:

-Your not in a bar or a club so women are conscious of the fact that everything they do has a reaction directly in their reality. Meaning, if she's seen by a friend making out with you 5 minutes after meeting you(something acceptable in a club, but not on the way to class at your local community college), her social circle could find out. This pumps ASD up much higher.

-Women in a club are in a social mood(I read this somewhere, forget where sorry). These women want to be talked to, otherwise they wouldn't dress so nicely. Sure they are feisty and mean sometimes, but they're usually shit tests to weed out the weaker guys. Women in the day time have the same characteristics, but may not necessarily be in the social mood. They wore the low cut shirt for attention, but women shift gears all the time. Maybe she doesn't want any more guys approaching her that day so she is bitter to YOU when you approach. Also, dressing nice and revealing her physical sexual attractiveness is peacocking for her. It allows her to visually DHV and stand out to men. Women also have the ability to use their physical attributes as a social power. So she may have no real interest in dating you, but instead enjoy the attention of attracting you or having the ability to attract men in general. Simply said, being a tease.

-Day game is like being on the spot. What reason do you really have for talking to the person you are talking to? You could say you were just making small talk, but unless 2 people are being forced to be near each other(elevators), someone is approaching. Being sneaky about it probably isn't going to work, thus direct game is more associated with day game IMHO.

-Negs need to be used less. Better out, negs need to be monitored. If she's already massively attracted, negs are probably only hurting you. I've noticed several times, without talking to women, in their mind, I have completed A2. They open me, so it's almost like the A2 doesn't matter(so long as I don't DLV or get extremely wussy). I have a relatively high social status on campus, and always being seen with beautiful women gives me a huge DHV. At this point, girls have been opening me. Watch a woman's body language. You can tell if she really needs a neg or not. Be wary of shit tests though. Also, when directly approaching a woman, a neg is somewhat useless, once again, IMHO. Give off the aura of "Yes, I'm hitting on her, but she enjoys it". Please, just make sure the woman is actually enjoying it. Slow down your voice, that works wonders for me.

-People have places to be during the day. When your at a club you plan on being there for a certain amount of time. A person walking down the street is only on the street to get from Point A to Point B. Stopping them could be irritating, even if done to the best of your ability. Don't get bent out of shape, just look at it from the best possible angle(reframe). "Maybe she's in a rush because she's late for work, and she's only blowing you off in order to make time."

-Last thing I'm going to say is, like everyone says, day game is slower and toned down. Watch how fast you escalate because you can trip ASD really easily if your not careful. I always have problems with this. Still working on it. I think the trick to day game is to wait. Be a Pleasure Delayer. Give her what she wants at the very last moment possible, or better said, at the point where she is climaxed(you'll know because she'll look at you long and hard, as if to say "is this that moment I thought would come?". It's important to actually escalate and not procrastinate because you will be placed in the LJBF zone if you don't act in time.

Hope some of this is useful

Nutz
11-04-2007, 09:02 AM
The short short short version of daygame is....



It's the same as night game, only s l o w e r.

SmoothDoc
11-04-2007, 02:16 PM
The Dating Doctors have a book that's totally about DayGame.

It is called Selfconfidence with Woman. Their is one problem. It is in the Dutch language

I can't sent you 1 chapter to try if you want.

Cu,

SmoothDoc :D

MrRabbit
11-19-2007, 05:01 PM
The short short short version of daygame is....



It's the same as night game, only s l o w e r.

Nuts gave the correct answer here...remember guys...these are the LAWS of attraction...if u get laid...u used them in some shape form or fashion. Day game is slower paced...the idea is to instant date at a coffee shop...or day 2 with # close. I suggest learning strong texting and phone game. Hypnotica is the king of phone game...i've listened to audio clips where the girls orgasm over the phone!!!!! do u think she is going to flake after that??? hell no!!

MrRabbit
11-19-2007, 05:07 PM
The short short short version of daygame is....



It's the same as night game, only s l o w e r.

Nuts gave the correct answer here...remember guys...these are the LAWS of attraction...if u get laid...u used them in some shape form or fashion. Day game is slower paced...the idea is to instant date at a coffee shop...or day 2 with # close. I suggest learning strong texting and phone game. Hypnotica is the king of phone game...i've listened to audio clips where the girls orgasm over the phone!!!!! do u think she is going to flake after that??? hell no!!

ShoVengeance
11-23-2007, 10:24 PM
I once tried getting a girlfriend of mine horny over the phone... She thought I was nuts...

Then I learned some phone game(David Deangelo at the time)

Tried it on a new girl...

And BAM! She was fingering herself by the end of the call. She even texted me after the call to let me know she was doing so. Pretty intense stuff. That kind of power freaked me out in the beginning so I stopped using it for a few months LOL. I was a virgin at the time I used it, imagine my surprise!

XaVierS
11-26-2007, 04:04 AM
Day game is different from night game in that:

- You deal with more one-sets
- You probably don't do set merging
- It's therefore hard to get social proof
- It's also harder to get a jealosy plotline
- You don't always have 30 minutes with the girl

So you can run game the same way during day as night, but it doesn't have the group opportunties and there are likely to be real time constraints (on her part, rather than false ones) in which case all you can do is get a quick # close, which is likely to be a flake since you didn't have time to get into deep comfort.

Example: Today I was at a supermarket, and a beautiful redhead caught my eye. We kept passing each other in opposite directions, and finally ended up on the same line.

This was good because it gave us some time to talk. We went through A1-A3 and into comfort on line (within about 5 minutes, with only light kino). I then tried to set up a specific D2 based on what we were talking about, but it turned out she lives with her bf and wasn't ready to consider alternatives. So the pickup failed, but the basics worked.

A while ago, I could have had a fools mate with a girl I met on line at another supermarket (no, not in the supermarket, get your mind out of the gutter), but the girl wasn't hot enough for me so I passed. I did end up partying in the parking lot with her and her 3 girlfriends in their SUV though. The driver was hot, but the first girl was laying claim to me, so I ejected rather than taking them up on an offer to go over to their place.

Manu Frio
11-26-2007, 11:26 AM
You should have went to their house and switch the momentum by negging the driver and getting her interested in you... Or at worst get yourself a new pivot for the next time you go out. (EVEN better 3 pivots!!!)
Sarge on brother...:)

Nutz
11-26-2007, 03:48 PM
You should have went to their house and switch the momentum by negging the driver and getting her interested in you... Or at worst get yourself a new pivot for the next time you go out. (EVEN better 3 pivots!!!)
Sarge on brother...:)

http://www.lan-slam.com/misc/werd.jpg

XaVierS
11-26-2007, 05:21 PM
You should have went to their house and switch the momentum by negging the driver and getting her interested in you... Or at worst get yourself a new pivot for the next time you go out. (EVEN better 3 pivots!!!)
Sarge on brother...:)

Hey, I was tired and not up for it... I can't be of service to every woman who wants it... ;)

rlboye
11-27-2007, 05:07 AM
The Dating Doctors have a book that's totally about DayGame.

It is called Selfconfidence with Woman. Their is one problem. It is in the Dutch language

I can't sent you 1 chapter to try if you want.

Cu,

SmoothDoc :D


Could you give me the exact name of the book and author. Because I'm Dutch myself, and would like to learn more about daygame.

steveyouknowme
12-01-2007, 08:11 AM
hey guys, im looking to recruit some wingmen. I assume all of you are familiar with the Mystery Method, have read the book, watched some of the seminars, and have practiced your own game. In return, of course, I would be your wingman for your own targets. I live in the Delaware County / Chester County / Philadelphia area. Let me know.

JonnyScarlett
12-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Yes I think remember him mention day game in that interview series and he said the same principals apply, but you need to tone down the intensity and energy levels of your interactions a lot compared to clubs/bars so it is more congruent with your environement. Best solution would be to go out yourself and practice day game keeping the general MM principles in mind and after some experience with different sets you can calibrate your energy levels etc. and see what is more successful.
Good example of Mystery Method influenced day game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cgmIMvgYY0&feature=related

BishopDon
12-03-2007, 01:08 PM
Lance (Pickup101) has some decent DayGame material as does Juggler and Vin DiCarlo.

I run a lot of daygame now with decent results. Timing, logistics and rapport are very important.