Boot Camp Questions, Help an aspiring student

[pheonix]

So i definetly think I am going to do a boot camp but I have a few questions maybe some people could answer for me.
1. I’m looking for a way to improve my social networking skills specificly to get another girlfriend. I recently got out of a long and serious relationship and I am finding it difficult getting myself back out there in the dating world. I am not interested in one night stands, I'm looking to have more potential girlfriends. So I guess my first question is after the boot camp are you taught to interact with women in a way where they want to keep seeing you and not just a one night thing?
2. I have no previous experience in pick ups. Should I practice on my own prior to boot camp to maximize my learning experience?
3. What are the specific skills a new student will learn? Exactly how much will one boot camp teach a new student? How will this effect my dating life? After the training will I be in a position to continue learning on my own or will I need more boot camps and training to continue improving?
4. Are these methods effective without a wingman?
Thanks for the help, hope to hear from some people soon.

[Joe D.]

1) The goal is to see the woman on a different occasion. One nighters often have buyers remorse and flake if you haven't built enough comfort. At the bootcamps our goal is to hand you the tools for the job you need. Yes we do teach how to interact with women so they will want to keep seeing you.

2) We suggest you read, Mystery's book, The Mystery Method and The Game. This way when you get to the camp you will have a basic understanding of the Pickup vocabulary and an idea of the structure of the cold approach pickup, rather then scramble to write notes on structure.

3) We will teach you how to go through the entire model Mystery created. From approach to number closing to kiss closing, to day two interaction to sex. The entire courtship phase will be learned. "Exactly how much will one boot camp teach a new student? How will this effect my dating life? After the training will I be in a position to continue learning on my own or will I need more boot camps and training to continue improving?" These are all questions that are dependent on each individual student. You will be in a position to continue learning on your own.

4) Although we do teach how to pickup women with wingmen, we teach stuff that you can use solo, no wingman needed. But when you come to a bootcamp, you are automatically introduced to a room full of wingmen, how awesome!

I hope this helped, see you soon!

[pheonix]

Thanks a lot thats definetly a big help. I'm signing up for the next boot camp in the NJ region.

Two more questions I came up with

1. What is the difference between a venusian arts boot camp and a matador mayhem bootcamp? Which is better for a beginner?

2. What is the typical student to teacher ratio?

[Vernon]

Phoenix...if I may offer some additional tips:

1. Learn some ‘Openers’ before attending the Boot Camp. Commit them to memory so that you may focus more on the delivery and the nuances of A1 rather than attempting to remember all of the words to your Opener when in Set. I committed five Openers to memory BEFORE attending my Boot Camp and it made a world of difference for me once we were in the field.

2. Attempt to Open a few Sets on your own, prior to attending the Boot Camp. You will gain a much greater appreciation for what you are learning if you have engaged a few Sets before your first day with the Instructors. If you feel that your Approach Anxiety is high, open a waitress or two the next time that you are out. You will greatly accelerate your learning curve by using some of the material beforehand.

3. Study the VAH. Notice that I said ‘study’ and not ‘read’? Learn the theory and then let these guys show you how to apply it. There was a remarkable difference in the skill-set that the students developed when they studied the VAH relative to those that simply read some posts online and then sauntered in to the course. Get the most out of your opportunity to learn from those who are the best in the world at what they do by preparing yourself accordingly.

One last note: the Boot Camps are intense...seriously...it is a vast amount of knowledge being thrown at you in a very short period of time. Couple this with mild sleep deprivation and you will thank yourself for taking the time to adequately prepare for the event.

I once heard someone say, “Everyone wants to be a winner, but few want to prepare to be a winner.” Preparation is the key to enjoying the best results from your Boot Camp.

Good luck!

[Deft9]

The DC camp is kind of close to me. I just wish they didn't cost so much :(

[Smirk]

The DC camp is kind of close to me. I just wish they didn't cost so much :(
Yo Deft9 DC is a perfect oppertunity to meet up with lovedrop. I got to hang with him in Chicago and he was amazing. I had crazy AA and he took me right out of it. I actually went to the last bootcamp in Vegas hoping to met up with him but he wasnt there. The guys got his shit together. He even went over the standard schedual time by seven hours just to help us get things down. When you go ask him about entourage dynamics. That has single handedly taken my game to the next level. I wouldnt be surprised if they start bootcamps based on just that principle.

[dgmithril]

Yeah, I actually have a question as well, which can be answered by anyone that has taken Boot Camp.

From what I've read in Style's The Game, fees covered hotel fees, limo service, and club entry. However, Style paid 500 bucks whereas we're looking at 2 grand now. So, is that because of higher demand or are there more services now? Also, are we going to be advised on makeovers during Boot Camp as well and if we are, what is the appropriate amount of extra money we should bring for it? Or is that covered by the fees?

I'm holding off on the Boot Camps until April because that's when I turn 21. But I'm so interested in it. So hopefully, I'll be seeing some of you instructors sometime soon!

[Alpha_Helix]

Hey, guys
I have MoM, I was wondering for those of you who attended the bootcamps... is there any differnce between whats in the MoM dvd and the seminar?

thanks

[Deft9]

Style went to the FIRST bootcamp. It was a different time. If these guys are doing bootcamps for a living, they have to prepare, they have to FLY to the cities, they have to split the money among multiple instructors...etc. Plus it's a supply and demand thing. They charge what they can GET. Mystery charged $500 for the first boot camp and had 3 students show up. If he did another one for $500, I can tell you there'd be a lot more than 3 people there.