Sigg
11-29-2007, 06:31 AM
Everyone’s been so helpful that I thought I would post this and give back to the community a bit. I found that I have a lot of success with coffee shops and wanted to share a few things I’ve learned.
First let’s start with some openers/DHV’s for the person taking your order. I found that if there’s a cute girl taking the order it’s really good to make her laugh a bit to both build social proof and potentially pick her up. Try to order when it’s not too busy and there won’t be anyone in line behind you so you have some time to make small talk with the people behind the bar. If you plan on gaming other people in the shop (not just the baristas), make sure you introduce yourself and get the names of everyone working there when you get your drink. This way the next time you come in, you might see someone you know and you can go “Hey [whoever]” give him a high five and seem like a regular. If it’s a particularly cool coffee shop (i.e. not a Starbucks) you’ll instantly be part of a tribe that everyone in there wants to belong to and this will up your social proof. Also, if you walk out of there with a girl on your arm, you can say goodbye to the people in the shop on your way out and appear to be part of the tribe that way. The people in the shop (especially the guys) will want to appear as they know you because you’re part of a tribe that they want to belong to (i.e. you hang out with or pick up beautiful women) and the girls will want to know you because the guys do (and because of pre-selection).
Ok, on to specifics. Here are some field tested lines I use pretty often that are great little openers for the person taking your order. I can’t believe I’m giving these away because this is some of my most successful original material so PLEASE use it sparingly and don’t re-post it on other boards.
Her: Do you want whip-cream on that?
You: No thanks, I’m trying to watch my [girlish] figure (I happen to be tall, thin and in shape so this one always gets a laugh).
Her: What size?
You: What’s the smallest size you have?
Her: Tall
You: Ok I’ll have that but I refuse to call it tall.
You: [Order a drink with flavor options like a frappuccino]
Her: What flavor.
You: Surprise me.
Ok, so now you’re either gaming the barista or have picked a target to game in the shop itself. One thing to note about gaming the people who work there is that if you do end up with any of them it will totally kill that coffee shop for you as a place to pick up women, so I personally think its best to leave it at friendly flirting and hanging out for social proof reasons and not do anything to physical with them where they might have a right to be offended if they saw you flirting with another girl.
Ok on to gaming the patrons. From my experience, the three second rule is out for coffee places. Come in with a book, get your drink, and sit down next to the most attractive girl in the place or the set with the cutest girl if it looks like a bunch of friends having an interesting conversation.
From here you can do one of two things. If it’s a multiple person set I like to just sit there and listen to their conversation until I hear something interesting and have an opportunity to jut in with something funny and join them. If it’s a single, I sit there and read for a while then pull out my cell phone and pretend I’m texting back and forth with my friend. I find it helps to actually write text messages in the draft folder so that it looks realistic. After a few back and forth’s I’ll turn to the girl with my leg crossed away from her and body language closed and root an opinion opener with the text message.
FTCing singles is tricky. I tend to say something like “I’m sure you have to get back to reading (usually they’re reading something) and I want to get back to my book, so I won’t keep you.” Try to find someone who looks like they’re there just to kill time. Again, doing this right and not DLVing yourself in the process is tricky because it can come off like you’re apologizing for bugging them. This is not the frame you want. The subtext you want to communicate is: “I’m an interesting person that wants to get back to my interesting book. You’re probably an interesting person as well so logically you would want to get back to doing what you’re doing.” Immediately after, try to hook them with another thread. This is what they should be thinking “Actually, I’m bored out of my mind and I’m glad someone is talking to me. Wait don’t go! I don’t want to go back to studying art history!” As you converse open your body language up as a reward for compliance.
With mixed sets you can FTC as usual. Make sure you sit down with them while you’re joining the conversation. I actually tell them “I really can’t stay” as I’m sitting down at their table. Since you were already sitting before you opened the set just scoot your chair over to them.
Well, that’s about all I can think of right now. I’ll post more as it comes to me. Hope this helps someone out there.
Sigg
First let’s start with some openers/DHV’s for the person taking your order. I found that if there’s a cute girl taking the order it’s really good to make her laugh a bit to both build social proof and potentially pick her up. Try to order when it’s not too busy and there won’t be anyone in line behind you so you have some time to make small talk with the people behind the bar. If you plan on gaming other people in the shop (not just the baristas), make sure you introduce yourself and get the names of everyone working there when you get your drink. This way the next time you come in, you might see someone you know and you can go “Hey [whoever]” give him a high five and seem like a regular. If it’s a particularly cool coffee shop (i.e. not a Starbucks) you’ll instantly be part of a tribe that everyone in there wants to belong to and this will up your social proof. Also, if you walk out of there with a girl on your arm, you can say goodbye to the people in the shop on your way out and appear to be part of the tribe that way. The people in the shop (especially the guys) will want to appear as they know you because you’re part of a tribe that they want to belong to (i.e. you hang out with or pick up beautiful women) and the girls will want to know you because the guys do (and because of pre-selection).
Ok, on to specifics. Here are some field tested lines I use pretty often that are great little openers for the person taking your order. I can’t believe I’m giving these away because this is some of my most successful original material so PLEASE use it sparingly and don’t re-post it on other boards.
Her: Do you want whip-cream on that?
You: No thanks, I’m trying to watch my [girlish] figure (I happen to be tall, thin and in shape so this one always gets a laugh).
Her: What size?
You: What’s the smallest size you have?
Her: Tall
You: Ok I’ll have that but I refuse to call it tall.
You: [Order a drink with flavor options like a frappuccino]
Her: What flavor.
You: Surprise me.
Ok, so now you’re either gaming the barista or have picked a target to game in the shop itself. One thing to note about gaming the people who work there is that if you do end up with any of them it will totally kill that coffee shop for you as a place to pick up women, so I personally think its best to leave it at friendly flirting and hanging out for social proof reasons and not do anything to physical with them where they might have a right to be offended if they saw you flirting with another girl.
Ok on to gaming the patrons. From my experience, the three second rule is out for coffee places. Come in with a book, get your drink, and sit down next to the most attractive girl in the place or the set with the cutest girl if it looks like a bunch of friends having an interesting conversation.
From here you can do one of two things. If it’s a multiple person set I like to just sit there and listen to their conversation until I hear something interesting and have an opportunity to jut in with something funny and join them. If it’s a single, I sit there and read for a while then pull out my cell phone and pretend I’m texting back and forth with my friend. I find it helps to actually write text messages in the draft folder so that it looks realistic. After a few back and forth’s I’ll turn to the girl with my leg crossed away from her and body language closed and root an opinion opener with the text message.
FTCing singles is tricky. I tend to say something like “I’m sure you have to get back to reading (usually they’re reading something) and I want to get back to my book, so I won’t keep you.” Try to find someone who looks like they’re there just to kill time. Again, doing this right and not DLVing yourself in the process is tricky because it can come off like you’re apologizing for bugging them. This is not the frame you want. The subtext you want to communicate is: “I’m an interesting person that wants to get back to my interesting book. You’re probably an interesting person as well so logically you would want to get back to doing what you’re doing.” Immediately after, try to hook them with another thread. This is what they should be thinking “Actually, I’m bored out of my mind and I’m glad someone is talking to me. Wait don’t go! I don’t want to go back to studying art history!” As you converse open your body language up as a reward for compliance.
With mixed sets you can FTC as usual. Make sure you sit down with them while you’re joining the conversation. I actually tell them “I really can’t stay” as I’m sitting down at their table. Since you were already sitting before you opened the set just scoot your chair over to them.
Well, that’s about all I can think of right now. I’ll post more as it comes to me. Hope this helps someone out there.
Sigg