Why Mystery never is in forum?

[Poeta]

Why he never post here?

[Greystoke]

He supposedly has one post here, but that is not a real proof that it's him who wrote it. Matador and Lovedrop want us to believe that Mystery is with them. There is no indication that he is currently teaching at any of the Venusian Arts bootcamps currently on offer neither.

That's a mystery.

[Surreal Satyr]

Poeta

I think everything he could have posted is already in the book. I also researched his posts in fastseduction (from 1998 to 2002) and found out that he used to write something like 20 posts and replies a day (!).... maybe he just got bored and set his priorities.

I understand and respect your expectatives, it would be cool to hear from Mystery once in 1 or 2 weeks.... but I think you are being a bit selfish. Forums aren´t fun at all, and aren´t as relevant as field, the only reason why most people come here is to get help and share stuff... and I don´t think much people can help Mystery at all >:). (dont know about you, but I dont see myself continually visiting forums 12 years from now)

Though I would love to see him here, it wouldnt be a fair give-and-take kind of relationship.

Sometimes I think that forums and excessive reading make us think too little on "how will I translate this theory into something creative that fits in my own individual game" type of thing....[ and for me thats the best part of PU, it´s like composing a song :) ]... and there are already 240 pages of theory avaible forthis kind of translation.

C ya



Greystoke

Have you ever heard that Paul McCartney is dead?

:)

[Poeta]

I also researched his posts in fastseduction (from 1998 to 2002) and found out that he used to write something like 20 posts and replies a day (!)....

Uou!

Yeah, but it´s his business.

Tyler Durden always posts in RSD forum, just a example.

[Greystoke]

Uou!

Yeah, but it´s his business.

Tyler Durden always posts in RSD forum, just a example.

Tyler does not have a life. And instead of writing and finishing his 'blueprint' that is taking years to finish, TD just lazes around in Hawaii, making up stuff like "the claw". Sometimes, TD even confuses himself.

[Poeta]

Do you know mystery daily routines? Does Mystery have a life too?

[Lovedrop]

Mystery spends most days working on his "Path to Mastery" project. At night we usually go out and pick up girls.

I think Mystery prefers to post videos over text. Most likely that is how you will hear from him next.

[Poeta]

Loverdrop, can you please explain (to the forum users) what kind of project Mystery is developing? Is about magic?

Would be interesting to know about it.

[Nox]

He supposedly has one post here, but that is not a real proof that it's him who wrote it. Matador and Lovedrop want us to believe that Mystery is with them. There is no indication that he is currently teaching at any of the Venusian Arts bootcamps currently on offer neither.

That's a mystery.

Other than the video posted on the website, showing him picking up chicks.

And the fact that it has not been taken down due to use of a personal video for commercial purposes with the threat of a lawsuit.

[X__]

If I was mystery, I wouldn't have any time staying in this forum, answering to the probably "thousands" of posts wanting information from him. Besides, we should play this game outside, in the field. :)

Here is my question to him: "do you know any good books for magictricks to use in a set?" there, now I am one of them :)

[Dream]

This forum, and the VA business itself would skyrocket if mystery actually spent 10 mins a day and made a few helpful posts. Look at the rsd board, its slaughtering both tmm and va in activity, combined. why? signal to noise ratio, particularily td himself posting.

then again, being elusive like mystery and making 1 post per year keeps anyhing he posts super high value, keeps the hero worshippers worshipping. Seems like a marketing ploy sometimes...

Oh well, to each his own. Theres enough good advice being spewed out here as it is.

[X__]

Yes indeed, if you don't get the help you want from the internet, you could always pay up to have him 1-1 school you :)

I'm also of the belief that he has done his part by putting it all into the new MM book..

[Greystoke]

Look at the rsd board, its slaughtering both tmm and va in activity, combined. why? signal to noise ratio, particularily td himself posting.

Not true. RSD wants you to believe that their activity is higher. Do a website traffic ranking. tmm beats rsd by a big margin. va is picking up tho

[X__]

I've been out sarging tonight, and myster is tha shit... :D report tomorrow... unfortunatly none came home with me tonight.. but hey.. it's wednsday....

[bosstone]

If Mystery were posting on this board, he would just be posting the same information that's already in the VA handbook anyway. Getting good at pickup is a long terms process which requires working on your social skills consistently. Practice is your best friend.

This forum, and the VA business itself would skyrocket if mystery actually spent 10 mins a day and made a few helpful posts. Look at the rsd board, its slaughtering both tmm and va in activity, combined. why? signal to noise ratio, particularily td himself posting.

then again, being elusive like mystery and making 1 post per year keeps anyhing he posts super high value, keeps the hero worshippers worshipping. Seems like a marketing ploy sometimes...

Oh well, to each his own. Theres enough good advice being spewed out here as it is.

[Greystoke]

If Mystery were posting on this board, he would just be posting the same information that's already in the VA handbook anyway.

He sometimes sounds like a broken record.

But would Mystery not have NEW ideas/insights?

[relics]

He supposedly has one post here, but that is not a real proof that it's him who wrote it. Matador and Lovedrop want us to believe that Mystery is with them. There is no indication that he is currently teaching at any of the Venusian Arts bootcamps currently on offer neither.

That's a mystery.

Dude, there's a video of Erik stating that he IS with VA. Unless lovedrop was behind him with a 45 cal, erik is with venusan arts.

[sting]

No, no, no...

its all a mistake. its actually Matador and Lovedrop who are locked up in a basement somewhere in Cali (Miami's just a ruse to throw the authorities off track), and Mystery with the key in his hand, using their names against their will.:)
The Matador and Lovedrop posts were all written by Mystery

seriously,
Agreed - his putting up a post or two occasionally would be good for business. He's the leader, and giving a sense of being with the boys is a nice touch.

Agreed - he likely wouldn't have anything groundbreaking to say. He hasn't changed much over the years - why would he if he's where he wants to be?

Peculier - why he'd do a phone in on Style's place, rather than here.


Innovations for innovations sake is more about commercialism for the sellers, not value for the buyers. For differentiation's sake, lots of people put a new spin on old things - and make a product out of it.
"this is ADVANCED COMFORT not comfort... this is DEEP INNER GAME, not inner game...our old stuff was great, but this new stuff is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD" etc. etc.

cheers all,
Sting

[ride]

Peculier - why he'd do a phone in on Style's place, rather than here.

Cross promotion.

[CrimsonKing]

Peculier - why he'd do a phone in on Style's place, rather than here.


Are you referring to the conference call for the StyleLife Academy? If so, as I remember it, he sort of just walked into that by accident. Style was doing the conference call with Ross Jefferies and all us Academy members were listening, and then Mystery (who was visiting Style) arrived at Style's house and jumped onto the call. If that was a planned thing done to look spontaneous, it was executed perfectly. And considering who we're talking about, it wouldn't suprise me.

[sting]

... he sort of just walked into that by accident. Style was doing the conference call with Ross Jefferies and all us Academy members were listening, and then Mystery (who was visiting Style) arrived at Style's house and jumped onto the call...

I'll bet that thrilled Ross;)

cheers,
Sting

[Heartwork]

I'll bet that thrilled Ross;)

cheers,
Sting

Acttually I was on that call and you would be surprised how excited RJ was.

I think he even had a stiffy

RJ: Dude WE REALLY NEED TO HANG OUT SOMETIME, I WOULD LOVE THAT!
Mystery: ugh....okay?

[Smurk]

LOL. Ross is a great ass smoocher.

"DUDE i LOVE what you're doing'

Compliments galore. Ross is almost creepier then he used to be.

[sting]

Acttually I was on that call and you would be surprised how excited RJ was...



...RJ: Dude WE REALLY NEED TO HANG OUT SOMETIME, I WOULD LOVE THAT!


He's learning.:)

I really like Ross' seduction related stuff and am a great believer in the benefits NLP. The guys attitude to everyone else though...for the longest time, i didn't believe his post were really his - they were that out there.
Erik, by contrast, has been super cool about and towards everyone who's fed of his work - and given it a tweak here and there for the betterment of the whole body of knowledge. Props.


cheers,
Sting

[Johnny Blaze]

Yes, it would be nice if Mystery posted here from time to time but he doesn't have to, it's his prerogative. Besides, the best place to learn is in the field and if you've got a sticking point then post here. There's always someone willing to help!

I've got a lair in Scotland and even though my game is only 50% where I want it to be, I think I'll still post to help others because that's who I am. Mystery already does enough to help thousands with his books and videos as well as bootcamps.

Also, if you look at the list of upcoming bootcamps you'll see Mystery is doing one in Toronto shortly

[Englishbob]

it would be good for mystery to post occasionally- but there is so many material out there - look into mASF.
Look into teh attraction forums.
Look into the VA forums- you have instructors here who teach at bootcamps - they have the information. and it will trickle down.

whay do he need to change his method? it works - he gets laid - he has MLTR's - so why change constantly - why put a enw ting out there when the old stuff works - if it aint broke - dont fix it.

[t@ngo.one]

I was on RSD forum a while ago and Tyler Durden replies so often and usually its not that useful, in my opinion anyways. I think that Mystery has already given us enough material for us to expand on and create our own variations... if he gave us anymore it would be like this whole "Tyler Durden clone" situation that I saw on thundercat's lair and everyone would be Mystery clones...basically it is our job to be independant and use the foundation that Mystery, Ross Jeffries, etc. have already given us.

love, t@ngo.one

[relics]

I have a feeling they'll eventually host a QnA session with Mystery. Probobly not.


When I click the "new post button" usually I skip alot of new posts because I can tell what happens in it. And it's just me, my game isn't even that advanced. I don't blame him for not realy posting.

[t@ngo.one]

Don't worry about it, advice from Lovedrop and the others should be just as good.

[JohnnyDrama]

oh course mystery has new material. He is writing a new book afterall.

The PU community is defnitely blooming, and if he had been writing everything new that he discovered online, people would start using it, and potentially publish it before he got his new book out.

[Mild_Seven]

I don't know if Mystery posts at all on the more advanced threads in the lounge or not, but I can imagine how boring it must be for him to answer posts about very basic stuff on the main board that other members can answer themselves.

He used to post so much that maybe he's just overdosed on the net, with all the back and forth discussion, and conversations that would take 5 minutes in person taking a week on the forums.

[flink]

he's famous now so his time is worth a lot of $ :/

I wish I have found pua earlier. :/

[CrimsonKing]

he's famous now so his time is worth a lot of $ :/

I wish I have found pua earlier. :/
Oh don't we all, my friend, don't we all....

[junkyfungus]

To me it's funny that there are members who obviously have absolutely zero clue about what Mystery means about the game being played in the field.

The forum is a great source to help each other out with sticking points, but to spend time wondering why Mystery doesn't post means you are not spending enough time in the field. Where the F*** do you think Mystery is? He's in the field picking up the girl you missed to start this thread.

See now I just waisted 1 minute out of my time in the field and I already can feel my life waisting away by answering such a ridiculous question.

[Dynamism]

I have huge respect for how he has managed to help the lives of so many, but honestly it is true that he shouldn't be idolized so much, that said, it doesn't really matter for me if he's on or not. He has his own life and so do I. My life is not this forum.

Unless he is willing to do a Q&A like Matador, Moxie, and ***** did, which would be very cool to get questions answered from the man himself.

I'm thankful for the willingness of the instructors to post and help us though.

It's a nice place to be and I appreciate it nonetheless.

[-Silver-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5z_lRmTUdY

'I am now exclusively at venusianarts.com.'

Someone want to define exclusively for me? There's already been threads on this site showing posts by Mystery on mASF. I agree with what people say about the advice given on this forum being ace anyway from other great PUAs such as Matador and Lovedrop. I agree that you will learn most of your game from being in-field. AND I agree that Mystery probably has a lot to do in his life as his business is rapidly escalating and he works on new projects.

But I strongly believe that as 'the founder of venusianarts.com', and as such an icon in the industry with hundreds of people looking up to him, he should certainly find the time to post every now and again on his own forums. I don't want to hear him revealing his new theories if he's going to publish them in a new book, and I don't want him to post anything groundbreaking. However I would like to see him giving feedback to those that ask for advice every now and again, especially with FRs. Check out his post on mASF (there is a thread with a link somewhere on the main forum section) and you'll see he has broken down some guy's pick-up that had been filmed, giving golden advice on how he can improve his game and perform better next time.

Use the search function in this forum, and you'll see Mystery has only ever made one post here in the 6 months since he joined. Seem like a good leadership quality to you? That's the reason I gave up on Christianity - Although God is apparently an amazing king and leader, he was never there for me, and never spoke to me or gave me advice when i needed it. I was just 'told' he was there, and 'told' he was looking over us. It made me pretty damn angry that someone who claimed to be the greatest king and leader never spoke to those who gave him their time. Now i rely on myself and feel so much stronger and in control of my life for doing so. Why am I comparing Mystery to god? Because a lot of people here seem to worship this man as if he is god. He's changed all of our lives for the better, and deserves our respect for that. But a leader who doesn't speak to those who follow him is a poor leader in my eyes. 15 mins a week for one post too much to ask? Like I said, this community is amazing. Everyone helps each other through their issues, and the other co-founders of the community do a great job in putting time into the community. Gaming wouldn't be as easy, or as fun, without the feedback we get from each other on this site. But i can't help feeling dissapointed with the lack of time Mystery is putting into his own business, when so many people could benefit from his help and advice. He doesn't need to advise everyone. So many times I have read through other people's problems and the advice that has been given to them, and found that it has helped just as much. I can usually relate some of those issues to any I might have, or know that if I get stuck in a similar situation, I will know how to deal with it now. So here's my question to Mystery: 'What's going on man?'

Flame on hero-worshippers, just make sure you've read it all before you do.

-Silver-'s thoughts

[Dynamism]

Come to think of it this place might indeed become more and more popular quickly if people realize that this IS Mystery's home and that he posts at least a few times a month or more.

But personally for me it doesn't much matter.

[Manifestis]

this is a reply to the guy who said he gave up on Christianity...i understand it may seem that God did give up on you...but did you forget the FACT that 2000 YEARS AGO, Jesus (God came to earth in human form) to die on the cross for you?

THat's a fact in itself. And how could you forget that? God sacrificed His own life for you. Comparing mystery or anybody to God is not possible.

I met many of the pick up gurus in person including Mystery and more. I personally like the guy. He's a likable guy but to compare him to God? Come on...

In the Bible, it says to NOT worship false gods...idols...anything you worship or focus MORE than God is an idol....don't worship fales gods (women, pickup gurus, drugs, money, etc)...that's what God says...

but we are all guilty of breaking those laws...thus, our penalty is to pay the punishment for OUR SINS...

but Christ came to earth 2000 years ago...that's a FACT...and He died for ONE REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To pay the punishment of your sins so you wouldn't have to.

Turn away from your false gods and turn to the REAL GOD...

Manifestis

"Jesus answered 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" (John 14:6)

[harvest]

"Jesus answered 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" (John 14:6)

Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel.
(homer simpson)

[-Silver-]

did you forget the FACT that 2000 YEARS AGO, Jesus (God came to earth in human form) to die on the cross for you?

Oh my bad, I wasn't aware you were there at the time.

When I hit 18 I started thinking about things logically, and it was an ability I was able to apply to anything. Everyone looked to me for advice because of it, and the voice of reason I developed. It's the reason I've learned social dynamics so quickly. Religion and God was just one of many things I thougt about. Here's some food for thought buddy:

Define 'good' and 'evil'. Are they fact? Or are they opinion?

WWII: Germans vs Allies, which side was the good side, and which side was the bad side? Answer that with your opinion first. Now think about it: Did the nazis decide to go along with the war because they thought 'we are evil', or did they go along with the war because they genuinely believed that what they were doing was just and right? Good and evil are opinion, largely affected by the moral and ethical upbringing and society you live in. So now join my world - if God is supposedly 100% good, and the devil supposedly 100% evil, who's opinion is that? I'll answer that for you! It's the opinion of whoever first told us about god and the devil, which just so happens to be (dun dun duuuuuuun) God! Christians will readily tell you that the old testament was written by the human hand, but every hand that contributed was directed by God, so that the bible came out just the way he intended! They will also readily tell you that the devil's name is Lucifer, and that he is a fallen angel. The story goes as follows:

Lucifer, for some reason unknown to anyone, rebelled against God and the throne of heaven. He rallied an army of angels, and fought against God and the angels that stayed true to him. Ultimately God won, and created hell, casting lucifer down into the depths of this lonely place until he repents for his sins, along with the other angels that followed him.

Now we are told this happened because God is 'good' and Lucifer is 'evil'. It only takes a little bit of thought to realize - 'wait a minute. If good and evil are a point of view, then surely Lucifer must have felt 'he' was the good guy, and God was the 'evil' guy.' We don't know what Lucifer's reasons were for rebelling against God, but we do know that there were many angels that agreed with Lucifer if he was able to create an army of them. Because God won, he made us believe through the bible, that he is the good guy, and Lucifer the bad guy, but fails to even tell us why. What makes Lucifer so bad? What does Lucifer think is so bad about God that he (apparently) still to this day will not admit he was wrong going against God, and repent for his supposed sins? Think about it - If Lucifer won that war, and wrote a bible of his own, it would say exactly the same thing, just the other way around. Lucifer is the good guy, God (or whatever his real name is) is the evil guy. And Christians being the blindly gullible bunch they are, would just say 'Oh, okay. The bible says so, it must be true.' Rather than question, what exactly does God stand for? What exactly does Lucifer stand for? Why is God good, why is the devil evil, and in who's opinions? And how the hell are we just supposed to believe that God created us? If he was going to convinve us through Jesus, then surely he should send a new Jesus for every generation so that we can all see the miracle and have no doubt. Wouldn't that be fair? Or at least keep going until the creation of video cameras.

It only takes a bit of thinking to realize that everything about Christianity is completely hypocritical. Even the idea of heaven! A perfect place for everyone? That's not possible to promise! I'll show you:

John's idea of a perfect heaven - John hates buildings, and everything modern. He firmly believes that a perfect heaven would be everything natural. Grass, trees, waterfalls and rivers. Not a single shred of human development to be found in ANY of heaven.

Jane's idea of a perfect heaven - Jane hates nature. She's a science fiction fan to the n'th degree! Her perfect idea of heaven will be full of spaceships, towering skyscrapers, and ray guns. Not even a single blade of grass should be found in ANY of heaven.

...ooops. We've got a problem here haven't we? And of course if we come to a compromise and split in two, half natural, half science-fiction. Then it's not perfect is it? It's only adequate. An extreme example I know, but proves the point.

So you're telling me it's a fact that Jesus died on the cross to save my sins? I'm afraid I have a lot more proof to send the concept of God to the grave than you do to prove he exists buddy. In my opinion, if he does exist, he's brainwashed a large percentage of the world with his 'bible', which as i've pointed out above, doesn't even make sense, or care to ellaborate on the important factors required to base a lifetime of servitude to someone on. Still your life, if you want to follow without a shred of proof, be my guest. In the meantime i'll go along with Marilyn Manson's fight song:

'I'm not a slave to a God that doesn't exist.'

Rant over, and if you want to argue your own points back feel free. But be warned, I've converted Christians to agnostics with my views when they tried bible-bashing me after I quit religion.

-Silver-

[Randel Flagg]

Hey guys

Get used to being Dr. Laura and Dr. Phil. Im sure there are gonna be some comical questions posted over the next two or three months here.

Whats this shit about newbies. What the date you join this forum is a problem? Your considered a newbie if you just recently joined? Hey this forum has only been around six months or so. We are all newbies. I joined her cuz I got bord over at MM.com.

I dont ever expect to hear from the phrodical son himself. Mystery, is set. I dont think he really cares about this forum anymore. All I expect to get is a lame message from Blitz from VA in my email box about Lovedrop geiving him a dirty look. Whatever.


They must be getting desperate. The LAME email I got today said that there taking payment plans for mysterys last boot camp. What a joke that is.

[Thor]

If Mystery ever wants to convince people that this is in fact his forum then he will have to post on it more. The only reason of those guys are still at TMM.com is because they still think that Mystery is still there. Whats the point in saying that this is the forum that mystery is located at if he never posts here. He doesnt have to release any new theories but it wouldnt hurt to critique someone's FR every once and a while.

[IceDragon]

Because he's too busy getting laid.

Get off your computers, and get out into the field.

IceDragon :)

[Randel Flagg]

Hey,

This shit gets me laid alot and I still post here.

He could still write in once in a while and say hi.

[Dion]

Eric has better things to do
If you spend one year going out 4 days a week 3 hours a day.
Believe me you will probably not care if mystery is here or not.

By the way i know Tyler i hang out with him in hawai
Saying tyler has no game is like those kids saying eminem has no skills when it comes to rap.
If you seen tyler in action and you claim that.. you are in huge denial.
So i just assume none of you have seen him in real life.
I personaly dont like style
He did not contribute near as much as tyler and mystery did to the art.


peace

[Greystoke]

Hey,
This shit gets me laid alot and I still post here.


Can you post one of your LRs, tredd? PLEASE!

[Melville]

I think Mystery prefers to post videos over text. Most likely that is how you will hear from him next.

Haha, Mystery is like Osama Bin Laden. A videopost, once in a while and only from the style of his goggles we will know when it was filmed.

Respect to the whole concept (he saved our AFC asses!) but this Mystery worshipping becomes ridiculous.
Doing the VH1 show was definetely a clever thing to do. He will be rich and get a lifetime invitation to all parties at the Playboy Mansion. But to become a legend/guru/whatever he should have opened an ashram somewhere and only show himself to the public once every five years.

Save the rock operas!

Ps.
Mr. Furious: What's his power?
Blue Raja: Well, he's terribly mysterious.
Mr. Furious: That's his power, he's mysterious?
Blue Raja: He's TERRIBLY mysterious, actually.

[Zenos]

[QUOTE=-Silver-;15112]Oh my bad, I wasn't aware you were there at the time.

Lucifer, for some reason unknown to anyone, rebelled against God and the throne of heaven. He rallied an army of angels, and fought against God and the angels that stayed true to him. Ultimately God won, and created hell, casting lucifer down into the depths of this lonely place until he repents for his sins, along with the other angels that followed him.


I have quick answer for anyone wondering. Not that I want to start a spiritual debate. Simple answer: Lucifers Pride

Isa. 14:12-14 "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest side of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High."

He tried to rise above God Himself. God hates pride. *shrugs* Lucifers loss I guess.:confused:

As far as Mystery goes: He's a busy guy now, with different priorities. We'll see his accomplishments as time goes on and draw from him that way.

[Brody]

I personaly dont like style
He did not contribute near as much as tyler and mystery did to the art.


His contributions are QUALITY, so volume makes little difference.

[stayfly]

Mystery should get a Sidekick and just post occasionally from his phone...

[Tagteam]

This is a forum for those learning. He's written a book for crying out loud. What more can he post that is not already in the book. If you go to a bootcamp too, you'll see that he has so much going on in his life, that there is no time to post. He's doing bootcamps, writing books, and has more projects than you can imagine. The teacher can teach, but the student has to go out and learn and apply what is taught. Post here and others at the same level will learn and help you. Write what you tried, and what worked for you and didn't. Ask for feedback. Those of us who have gone to his bootcamps are here also..so his influence is on these boards.

[ProjectMikado]

If he has the time to send emails to us I think he has the time to adress the boards once every month. MONTH.

[Couture]

He´s eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

[Dynamico]

A Zen Master once said "Kill The Buddha" anyone know why?:confused:

The Buddha was around 500 years before Jesus and in my opinion Jesus was just one of the many Sages that has walked the earth.

[Poetry]

Even if he did post here, do you actually think with the surge of people asking for one-hit wonders when it comes to the game that he'd stick around?

He's too busy, simple.

[JekDaPUA]

If he has the time to send emails to us I think he has the time to adress the boards once every month. MONTH.

Mystery doesn't personally send the emails.. its called marketing.. LMAO.. made me laugh though