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OPEN-FIRE
02-08-2007, 03:44 PM
just wondered if anyone can let me know whos instructing the boot-camps in London???

Thanks.

Charisma
02-08-2007, 08:31 PM
It's Sherriff and London Playboy afaik

Rocco
02-09-2007, 04:04 AM
just wondered if anyone can let me know whos instructing the boot-camps in London???

Thanks.

TBA

http://www.venusianarts.com/sl/va/VenusianArts.aspx

Limelight
02-09-2007, 11:12 AM
TBA

http://www.venusianarts.com/sl/va/VenusianArts.aspx

Yeah, that is probably why he asked, right?:rolleyes:

Sheriff and LondonPlayboy are instructors for MM Inc. and not VenusianArts.

Charisma
02-10-2007, 06:52 AM
Well afaik, they left MM to join VA. So I would assume it's them.

Maverick
02-10-2007, 08:39 AM
Also, Harlequin and Syren teach workshops there too. They're awesome. www.themajesticself.com

Satan
02-10-2007, 10:27 AM
I'd avoid badboy and Sheriff, their not great.

S*

Rusty
02-10-2007, 10:33 AM
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Rocco
02-11-2007, 07:08 AM
Yeah, that is probably why he asked, right?:rolleyes:

Sheriff and LondonPlayboy are instructors for MM Inc. and not VenusianArts.

English is not my mother's tongue and I thought that TBA is the name or the initials of the instructor (don't laugh too much :p ).

Aftewards I found in google that TBA is an abbreviation for ToBeAnnounced :D

Limelight
02-11-2007, 10:16 AM
English is not my mother's tongue and I thought that TBA is the name or the initials of the instructor (don't laugh too much :p ).

Aftewards I found in google that TBA is an abbreviation for ToBeAnnounced :D

No problem, nobody is perfect(well expect me of course ;) )

OPEN-FIRE
02-11-2007, 10:49 AM
I'd avoid badboy and Sheriff, their not great.

S*

yeah. I heard this before. This is really why I was asking.

Ill check out Harlequin and Syren.

thanks.

Limelight
02-11-2007, 11:17 AM
yeah. I heard this before. This is really why I was asking.

Ill check out Harlequin and Syren.

thanks.

Why don't you try RSD?

Halcyon
02-11-2007, 02:06 PM
"I'd avoid badboy and sheriff, they're not great" -Satan

Badboy has had some poor reviews in the past but he is not a mm/va instructor. Sheriff on the other hand has had nothing but glowing reviews, dont take my word for it have a look on the london seduction society forum which is the central forum for pick-up in the UK.

On a personal note I took a bootcamp with LondonPlayboy, Sheriff and Max and they are all excellent instructors -it was an immensely valuable experience. Sheriff and LondonPlayboy are regularly cited among the best PUA's the UK has to offer. Max also has amazing game and has always helped with my game when I've bumped into him in the field, including last night when I had a chat about pick-up with him and a couple of other community guys over a kebab.

If this trio are running the VA bootcamp which they may well be as LPB and Sheriff anounced on the LSS that they were switching to VA then I am sure it will be a great experience.

Satan
02-11-2007, 02:54 PM
Well in London Sheriff constantly gets bombed out of sets, but it's your money, I don't care..

There's also a few other instructors who you should watch out for too (afcs).

S*

Lovedrop
02-11-2007, 04:35 PM
I can't say any instructor hasn't been bombed out of sets before, but my personal experience having hung out with Sheriff last year and taught many bootcamps with him is that his game is great and he's a blast to party with.

Matador
02-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Sheriff and London Playboy are both the real deal who have travelled with me worldwide teaching. They get great reviews and rule London.

Satan
02-11-2007, 06:07 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, I'm just going by the guy I witnessed in London last year.

It's all good, but there are definitly a few instructors I'd watch out for.

S*

NextLevelUp
02-11-2007, 08:13 PM
Sheriff had a threesome with Magnus and IAmTheFuture... see
the very end of this video:

http://www.bristollair.com/video/bristol-lair/road-trip-video.html

His results speak for themselves.

Q-Pid
02-11-2007, 11:12 PM
Also, Harlequin and Syren teach workshops there too. They're awesome. www.themajesticself.com

Having spent a lot of time with both Harlequin and Syren I must say their game is TIGHT. I've seen some of the guys they've had masterclasses with and they just don't seem the same afterwards!

...I think Harley clones them and kills off the originals. Would explain the goatees.

Heard good things about LondonPlayboy too. Oh and of course Juggler :D

JuiceTerry
02-12-2007, 03:27 AM
Well, Sherriff and London Playboy are top of their game -they do rule London. I have heard nothing but great reviews about them and VA are lucky to have them.

TenMagnet, who is still with MM is obviously a great instructor who is teaching at the next London bootcamp. A friend of mind from Dublin, a French PUA called Deep Vertigo will be helping him I think. He got excellent reviews from any Irish students he helped with in the past -knowing him personally, I can vouch that he really knows his stuff.

Of them all, for value and experience, I would personally recommend http://www.datingconsultancy.com/
I know two of the guys that run it - James De Marco and Swamps. James has an impeccable reputation and he is the real deal.Top, top guy. I happen to know Swamps very well. I have been taught by him and I have sarged with him. The guy has absolutely amazing game.

RSD obviously run bootcamps regularly in London. Bish is the dude that is mainly involved. Again, he has an excellent reputation. Apparently RSD are moving away from Indirect Routines to focusing on Inner Game.

Then you have Charisma Arts. Juggler and Johnny Saviour get nothing but top reviews. They both do bootcamps in London regularly - I don't think anyone has a bad word to say about them.

Finally, you have Pick Up 101. As of yet, they havent done antying in London but they plan too so I can only go on what I know of Lance Mason. He is obviously an excellent guru. Apparently, in order to keep cost down, some of the instructors he uses are newbies from previous bootcamps. Sean Newman is supposed to be excellent though.

Badboy has got some awful reviews recently and some students, doing direct street approaches on a recent bootcamp in Manchester got arrested by the police!! I kid you not!

NextLevelUp
02-12-2007, 03:55 PM
Badboy has got some awful reviews recently and some students, doing direct street approaches on a recent bootcamp in Manchester got arrested by the police!! I kid you not!

Damn those Matrix agents!!!


I find it interesting that a lot of people focus on how good the instructors are in their reviews rather than how well they taught and how much the student themselves improved.

I wouldn't care if my instructor / teacher was a gay virgin if he improved my game.

Satan
02-12-2007, 06:51 PM
It's not hard to impress newbs. I've done some terrible approaches and had newbs watch in ore, shaking my hand afterwards. It can almost be like an illusian, once I told a female friend I could pull any girl, she picked out the bitchiest, hottest looking thing she could find, I managed to number close her but it meant nothing lol.

Haha badboy is a classic! When the police came over, he let his students deal with it as he pretended to be on the phone.

Harl is the real deal.

S*

Hawaii
02-12-2007, 10:27 PM
I have worked with Sherriff on several bootcamps and his game is not only solid and very tight, but I also learned a great deal from talking to him and watching his sets.

NextLevelUp
02-13-2007, 04:50 AM
When I was hanging with BadBoy we got kicked out of a restaurant and later a bar!!! The first one I understand, but the second, getting kicked out for chatting to people in a bar and it's not like we were upsetting people.

BB once made me approach a seeted 6 set in McD's by going up with a cup of ketchup and presenting it to the girls as a present. The set opened and I got attraction from the girls... LOL!