A3 Epiphany

[Herminator]

Ok this might not be anything new to expert players but for advance beginners like myself this might be useful so I just wanna put it out there. Also helps me remember by typing it out.

I had, for the longest time, had problems dishing out A3 material. I had no idea what A3 materials I can use to sound "normal" as I've seen some guy just suddenly go "so, y do I want to know u beside ur looks?" and just get a weird look from the girl and blow out. And up till recently my stack as been A2 A2 A2 A2, story story story story, dhv dhv dhv. Guess what? Doesn't work stupid me!

Once you throw out a neg, A2 material/story/dhv, and they laugh/hit you in the arm/say "wow that's so cool" (all ioi's) then u go right into compliance testing/qualifying (A3). When they comply/qualify for you, IOI them, then release with something along the lines of "oh i can't talk to you anymore." You know what I mean. Then dhv with a couple stories again, then recycle the whole process.

If they don't comply, iod/neg again, then start dhv once more. Start the whole process again.

I just realized this (it's been in the VAH this whole time and I was just blind to it) and I haven't figured out a gd stack for it yet. But here's one that I plan to incorporate: I got a cat. I love her and to be my gd friend a person has to at least like animals. Even better is if they can get along with my cat. So that's a qualifier for me.

I'll field test it sometime and let u guys know how it goes.

[reason]

Yeah I don't like the "why would I want to know you" line - it works for some people but for me personally it's a little "up your own ass" which doesn't fit with my personality. Maybe reword it a little to "So what's the best thing about you that no one knows" which does kind of a similar thing in a less agressive way - just once you don't think it's too subtle. The cat thing will definitely split the crowd, personally I think cats are fucking pointless so what do you do if you meet a girl who you think is fantastic but she hates cats? You don't want to give in to her while you're trying to get her to qualify herself...

[TheOmegaMan]

From my experience, if you get enough attraction in A2, using those tough questions, "what do you have going besides your looks?", work on (non-stripper) girls!

At first, I thought I would never be able to pull off Mystery's A3 questions, and as I got better in A2 and generated enough attraction, those tough A3 questions turned tough confident hot girls into stammering idiots trying hard to answer because most guys just don't have the balls to make girls work for attention.

If you failed, then go analyze your interaction to see how you could have generated more attraction. The problem is rarely ever the material, but your attitude, your delivery, your game...

[Mild_Seven]

For me, the straight up "What do you have going for you aside from your looks?" works if you preface it well and have a good transition into it. If you just bring that subject up out of nowhere you'll freak the girl out.

It recently worked well for me when a girl was being an ice princess so I pulled out a kind of DYD line and said something like "You don't fool me a bit. You act like you're all that, like you're the most perfect person in here. But I can see that inside, you're actually pretty scared of what people think of you. I bet most people can't see that side of you, your human side. They just see the way you look and the show you put on. But I see something else." Then I went into the qualifying question itself. I lost the sarge later but at that point I had her qualifying herself to me.

If the girl is complying already I never ask such a direct question, just something about their talents, their dreams for the future, what they want out of a relationship, etc. then release with a tease comment. A girl recently qualified herself to me by telling me she's great at karaoke. First I gave her the IOI, then released by saying "But if you get better at karaoke than me, I'll be embarrassed to sing with you. Forget it, let's call the whole thing off!". I always have to release with a smile so they know I'm fucking with them. I've tried the "I can't even talk to you now" + back turn, but the girls have always walked away. That may be a problem of intercultural communication (ie. they think I really can not talk to them anymore).

[Jester]

Generally the tough A3 questions work well if you hold the frame right. As theomegaman said not many guys have the balls to put a HB on the spot like that and make them sweat.

The most important thing is the frame you hold it in. You need to actually be genuinely interested in 'what they having going for them' or 'who the fuck they are', but ask in a cocky arrogant way that is drilling them.

You frame and the fact that you can ask these questions is a DHV in itself.