Muscle Beach
02-07-2007, 03:59 PM
This was originally posted by my alter ego Sentinal on the mASF forums. I thought i'd share it with you guys.
This post is for the use of gaming women in areas or venues in which you go to many times a week, and see them quite often. Such places can be classrooms, campus lobbies, workplace (illadvised), gyms... etc.
The whole thoery behind this is that you will see the target(s) multiple times over the course of the next couple weeks / months. Now, bare with me, i know the skeptics are thinking, "Well, why not just run some X Method on her and get the close and set up the day 2s when you first meet them?" Well my friends, here is the answer that i fire back at you.
In some situations and venues, such as school for instance... it is often impossible to run attract game without many inevitable distractions and real time constraints. You have all been in situations when we try to have a conversation with a HB in the middle of class, only to be interupted by the teacher or some other geeky AFC trying to start off a conversation... not to mention the restricted seat setup and not being able to kino in such areas as it's deemed extremely inappropriate... (atleast where i'm from). Other places can include work, where you have dickhead bosses hovering over you.
Anyways hears the whole premise of the theory, or metaphor for a better way to describe it.
Q. Why do we grow plants?
A. To eat the fruit that they bare.
For those of you who have no concept or idea behind anything that has to do with growing an organic being such as a fucking tomato plant, let me explain the whole thing in detail.
You find some fertile earth, you dig a hole, you plant your seed. You make sure that the seed gets proper nutrients and sunlight, and you take extremely good care of it through the use of supports and fertilizers... you put up the fence to keep the rodents away from the plant. When the plant gets to the mature stage it starts bearing fruit/vegatables to eat. Now, you can't take these fruits/veggies just yet as they are not ripe... but this shows the potential that the plant has... No one eats green tomatoes am i right? We have to wait untill the fruit is RIPE before we reap the benefits.
Ok... the metaphor has been put to place... now to explain it for the illiterates.
You find your fertile ground.. this is your venue in which you will be planting your seeds (a.k.a interest, attraction)... in my case, it will be my school cafeteria, as it's a big gathering place for about 80% of the students who go to my school.
A good way to plant the seed is to approach... be extremely friendly, have great body language and confidence... bullshit allitle bit, you can run some TMM etc... Get as far into the attraction stage as you can go before a time constraint ruins everyone's goodtime (i.e. class starting, buss leaving, etc) Now if you can number close here, then DO it... if your really good you can, but in most cases i dont bother because i KNOW that i'll be seing this woman again in the very neer future, so i let the seed take root, and start to spring up into a little seedling. (hehe i love my fuckin metaphors)
Next time you see her, continue running game/techniques on her to spark the most attraction possible... this is what i call giving the seed "Nutrients"... but be careful... any experienced gardener knows that if you give a plant too much water, you may drown it... if you give it too much heat and sunlight... it will dry up and die.
Think of it this way... your general game is water... your takeaways are sunlight... you run too much attract game on the girl before number closing, then you may run the risk of drowning the seed and ruining your plant... if your takaways are too monotonous and your never spending time getting to know this woman, she'll whither out and die... fucking up your chances... be careful, and know how much nutrients to give your target.
Make sure you put up a suitable fence to keep your rodents out... (AFCs) hhehe. we dont want to get cock blocked by her friends so your game has to be pretty solid in order to AMOG the appropriate people. Read up on your AMOG game.
Another good tactic to use is your social circle... dont be afraid to be seen hanging out with alot of other people, or talking to alot of other people... make sure she sees you when you have a dominant control over the set though... as this is another nutrient that we can metaphorize (that's probably not a word) as fertalizer. somethin that just helps the shit grow.
Over the next couple meetings, you'll begin to notice (if you've worked your game right) that the plant is beginning to bear fruit... she'll be giving some kino, or accepting kino from you, as well as showing extreme IOIs and sharing plans with you, inviting you along to do things with her... this is all good... this is when the fruits begin to bare... you begin to see the potential of what the plant has to offer. But make sure your not picking your fruit when it isn't ripe, or it will taste sour... lol this can be interpreted in more ways than one.
Now, if your not thinking to yourself, this kid is an idiot for posting something as silly as "Garden Theory" then your probably relating or agreeing with some of the things that i'm saying here.... But all good explainers have to go past the generalizations and get down into more dirty details, which i'm about to do...
Here are somet things that i've ran into along my efforts over the past month and a half. As the clever man that i am, i've been able to fit them into the whole gardening metaphor.
MOLES- Fucking moles, they go under your radar and eat the roots right out from under your plant. You really can't control these things, as we can not see them... these are things that the woman may be doing on the side... say she has a boyfriend she isn't tellin you about, or some other guy in another venue that she's more interested in... the best way to overcome moles is persistance, and nutrients... dominate her frame... this is all stuff from TMM» and other mthods that u can apply to outgame outside influences.
Miracle Grow.... think of it as the fools mate of Garden Theory.... I planted a seed one day... and got a blowjob from it the next day.... not much game ran at all.
Remember, that literally everytime you open an HB... think of it as planting a seed... everyone you talk to is a potential plant to get some fruit from. It's actually a pretty crazy concept, isn't it.
I think one of the most important things that we all have to realize is that with this style, or theory... it takes TIME... just like real gardening does.
Some plants sprout in days.. others in months... some plants bear HUUGE benefits... why do you think we have country fairs...
Listen... what i'm trying to say is that you need to have patience and care when you are working this method, and you have to act on your instincts as to when the right time is to pluck that lucious apple from the tree. Some plants bear sour fruit... it happens... this isn't going to work 100% of the time as it takes some experience...
One of the things you have to watch for is being put under the LJBF statues of your target. Remember to be interesting and mysterious at the same time... wait for her IOIs before you reward her with some... remember your takeaways... dont stay in the conversation untill she leaves... you have to be the one to take away her good time. It will just make her more eager to talk to yout the next time.
I hope that this has made some sense to some people... as i see that it makes sense to me, and it's something that i can relate to, as well as relate easily to other people... Not everyone is going to agree with it, so if you dont, please dont bash this by saying this is bullshit... I respect your opinions but be civil about them... all of your coments/questions/criticisms are welcome.
this is somthing I hope can help some people who are trapped in school game, because alot of us aspiring PUAs are under 21, and have few venues to sarge in.
Through other replies in various forums, we have been pointed out that this can also work on different women such as:
-Hired guns
-Co-workers
-Regular people at bus/train stops
Thanks guys, lemme know what you think
~Sentinal (Muscle Beach)
This post is for the use of gaming women in areas or venues in which you go to many times a week, and see them quite often. Such places can be classrooms, campus lobbies, workplace (illadvised), gyms... etc.
The whole thoery behind this is that you will see the target(s) multiple times over the course of the next couple weeks / months. Now, bare with me, i know the skeptics are thinking, "Well, why not just run some X Method on her and get the close and set up the day 2s when you first meet them?" Well my friends, here is the answer that i fire back at you.
In some situations and venues, such as school for instance... it is often impossible to run attract game without many inevitable distractions and real time constraints. You have all been in situations when we try to have a conversation with a HB in the middle of class, only to be interupted by the teacher or some other geeky AFC trying to start off a conversation... not to mention the restricted seat setup and not being able to kino in such areas as it's deemed extremely inappropriate... (atleast where i'm from). Other places can include work, where you have dickhead bosses hovering over you.
Anyways hears the whole premise of the theory, or metaphor for a better way to describe it.
Q. Why do we grow plants?
A. To eat the fruit that they bare.
For those of you who have no concept or idea behind anything that has to do with growing an organic being such as a fucking tomato plant, let me explain the whole thing in detail.
You find some fertile earth, you dig a hole, you plant your seed. You make sure that the seed gets proper nutrients and sunlight, and you take extremely good care of it through the use of supports and fertilizers... you put up the fence to keep the rodents away from the plant. When the plant gets to the mature stage it starts bearing fruit/vegatables to eat. Now, you can't take these fruits/veggies just yet as they are not ripe... but this shows the potential that the plant has... No one eats green tomatoes am i right? We have to wait untill the fruit is RIPE before we reap the benefits.
Ok... the metaphor has been put to place... now to explain it for the illiterates.
You find your fertile ground.. this is your venue in which you will be planting your seeds (a.k.a interest, attraction)... in my case, it will be my school cafeteria, as it's a big gathering place for about 80% of the students who go to my school.
A good way to plant the seed is to approach... be extremely friendly, have great body language and confidence... bullshit allitle bit, you can run some TMM etc... Get as far into the attraction stage as you can go before a time constraint ruins everyone's goodtime (i.e. class starting, buss leaving, etc) Now if you can number close here, then DO it... if your really good you can, but in most cases i dont bother because i KNOW that i'll be seing this woman again in the very neer future, so i let the seed take root, and start to spring up into a little seedling. (hehe i love my fuckin metaphors)
Next time you see her, continue running game/techniques on her to spark the most attraction possible... this is what i call giving the seed "Nutrients"... but be careful... any experienced gardener knows that if you give a plant too much water, you may drown it... if you give it too much heat and sunlight... it will dry up and die.
Think of it this way... your general game is water... your takeaways are sunlight... you run too much attract game on the girl before number closing, then you may run the risk of drowning the seed and ruining your plant... if your takaways are too monotonous and your never spending time getting to know this woman, she'll whither out and die... fucking up your chances... be careful, and know how much nutrients to give your target.
Make sure you put up a suitable fence to keep your rodents out... (AFCs) hhehe. we dont want to get cock blocked by her friends so your game has to be pretty solid in order to AMOG the appropriate people. Read up on your AMOG game.
Another good tactic to use is your social circle... dont be afraid to be seen hanging out with alot of other people, or talking to alot of other people... make sure she sees you when you have a dominant control over the set though... as this is another nutrient that we can metaphorize (that's probably not a word) as fertalizer. somethin that just helps the shit grow.
Over the next couple meetings, you'll begin to notice (if you've worked your game right) that the plant is beginning to bear fruit... she'll be giving some kino, or accepting kino from you, as well as showing extreme IOIs and sharing plans with you, inviting you along to do things with her... this is all good... this is when the fruits begin to bare... you begin to see the potential of what the plant has to offer. But make sure your not picking your fruit when it isn't ripe, or it will taste sour... lol this can be interpreted in more ways than one.
Now, if your not thinking to yourself, this kid is an idiot for posting something as silly as "Garden Theory" then your probably relating or agreeing with some of the things that i'm saying here.... But all good explainers have to go past the generalizations and get down into more dirty details, which i'm about to do...
Here are somet things that i've ran into along my efforts over the past month and a half. As the clever man that i am, i've been able to fit them into the whole gardening metaphor.
MOLES- Fucking moles, they go under your radar and eat the roots right out from under your plant. You really can't control these things, as we can not see them... these are things that the woman may be doing on the side... say she has a boyfriend she isn't tellin you about, or some other guy in another venue that she's more interested in... the best way to overcome moles is persistance, and nutrients... dominate her frame... this is all stuff from TMM» and other mthods that u can apply to outgame outside influences.
Miracle Grow.... think of it as the fools mate of Garden Theory.... I planted a seed one day... and got a blowjob from it the next day.... not much game ran at all.
Remember, that literally everytime you open an HB... think of it as planting a seed... everyone you talk to is a potential plant to get some fruit from. It's actually a pretty crazy concept, isn't it.
I think one of the most important things that we all have to realize is that with this style, or theory... it takes TIME... just like real gardening does.
Some plants sprout in days.. others in months... some plants bear HUUGE benefits... why do you think we have country fairs...
Listen... what i'm trying to say is that you need to have patience and care when you are working this method, and you have to act on your instincts as to when the right time is to pluck that lucious apple from the tree. Some plants bear sour fruit... it happens... this isn't going to work 100% of the time as it takes some experience...
One of the things you have to watch for is being put under the LJBF statues of your target. Remember to be interesting and mysterious at the same time... wait for her IOIs before you reward her with some... remember your takeaways... dont stay in the conversation untill she leaves... you have to be the one to take away her good time. It will just make her more eager to talk to yout the next time.
I hope that this has made some sense to some people... as i see that it makes sense to me, and it's something that i can relate to, as well as relate easily to other people... Not everyone is going to agree with it, so if you dont, please dont bash this by saying this is bullshit... I respect your opinions but be civil about them... all of your coments/questions/criticisms are welcome.
this is somthing I hope can help some people who are trapped in school game, because alot of us aspiring PUAs are under 21, and have few venues to sarge in.
Through other replies in various forums, we have been pointed out that this can also work on different women such as:
-Hired guns
-Co-workers
-Regular people at bus/train stops
Thanks guys, lemme know what you think
~Sentinal (Muscle Beach)