Vertex
02-06-2007, 05:56 PM
I’ve seen posts / spoken to guys about their view on game and have noticed that there tends to be a ubiquitous view that the “process” should be followed, dogmatically, religiously, at all times. Either MM, SS or whatever.
Pulled a HB 8.5 and are attracting well? Better lather some rapport on there sonny jim, otherwise you in fo a whole heap o flaking.
In a group situation? Better go in a take care of the CB’s first, and fo sho don’t game the target direct, cos she’ll blow you out and kick you to the kerb, girlfriend.
Bollocks.
I’m speaking from my own personal experience on this matter, so what I wanted to talk about was the notion of having to have all this rapport / comfort in order to ensure the HB will meet you again after the first encounter. In my view, it’s not necessary, at least not to the degree that a lot of guys seem to think. Attraction and fascination will do just fine.
NOTE : Obviously it’s preferable to have some kind of connection, however I am posting this because I think it’s helpful in situations where :
(i) There isn’t enough fucking time for rapport i.e train station, tube, etc etc.(ii) You’re in an environment where there are lots of HB’s and you don’t want to spend hours with her talking shite.
(iii) You get the point.
Here is an example which illustrates the point, with follow up:
I met HB 8.5 tall redhead at Cheltenham train station last Friday, I thought I would game her for a laugh as I haven’t been doing too much recently.
Me : Hey how long does x take to get to London, it doesn’t say on the boardHB 8.5 tall redhead : Er about 2 hours I thinkMe : Wow you’re really expressive with your hand gestures, what are you a gangster or something? You Italian?
(Fake gangster accent a la Robert De Niro, with exaggerated hand gestures)
Ehhh, forget abaaaat it, so where you goin eh? Hot damn..HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing): I’m going to Swindon Me : Whatchou goin there for, wassa matta withchu? Come with me to London.. (Puts hand under chin and gestures toward her, gangster style HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing more) : Hey I’d love to but I’m tired from work, blah blah Me : Ah yeah, work eh. Hah I bet you’re tired, climing up that pole, stripper girl.
Thus the convo was started
So we get on the train and talk more, I tell her I have been to see my accountant and she tells me she is a trainee account. At this point we’re sitting opposite each other, so I move across next to her and show her my expenses on my laptop (I also show her pics of HB Spanish model who I’ve been shagging, I don’t know why but this came up)
So I have about 1 hour to game her, plenty.
keep busting on her about various things and then go kino. Hardcore. Started off brushing a bit of hair off her face and told her I love readheads, she says I’m cheesy but is loving it. We’re chatting like this for a while and then some guy sits opposite so I open up my laptop and start typing messages for her on the screen.
It revolves around star signs and sexuality, I tell her that she is a naughty girl and a typical red head, she accuses me of being a player, doing this all the time etc…I eventually say to her that I think we should go to the toilets and fuck, she replies with something like (my heart says yes but my head says no…I can’t do it,, I’m a good girl).
I am escalating kino all the time, I put my hand on her knee and tell her that perfect symmetry is rare in nature, she says one of her knees is bigger than the other as she had an accident once, etc etc. So I play about with this for a while and then move my hand further up, part her legs etc and stroke thighs…Then lean in and nibble on her neck and earlobes…
After more of this and more sexy talk I end up getting off with her, not hugely passionate kissing but proper, right on the train This is a crowded train, there’s a guy opposite and to the other side are various other passengers. They can’t see my hand under the table though… As she gets off I smack her on the arse (my speciality) and tell her I’ll be seeing her real soon…I have the number of course.
So try to get her down at the weekend but she doesn’t make it although she has rung me twice and will prob come down on Sunday.
THE REAL KEY TO THIS POST :
I could sense that she thought I was a player and not really faithful to girls and she felt like one in a long queue, so I had to at least provide some sort of spurious reason for her to come down and shag me (ok she hasn’t yet but the fact that she has called twice now indicates to me that it’s on. If she does come down, I am 95% sure I will nail her).
So I sent her a txt, along the lines of “Hey in all seriousness, I know we got a bit carried away there on the train but I did really quite like you..I felt we had something there and I want to see where it takes us, it’s not very often I meet someone I really like..You felt it too babe didn’t you, I know you did..Speak soon.”
The KEY points here are:
(i) She was obviously very attracted and that alone may have guaranteed a shag AT THAT TIME (e.g at her house), however due to the time lag she might have flaked, however because the attraction and fascination was so strong she made it easy for me to progress things by making comments like “you’re a player, don’t go shagging and leaving too many girls when you go out this weekend” etc etc.
She was making it clear that she thought I was like that, BUT WAS GIVING ME A CLEAR WAY OUT OF IT, all I had to say was that I felt something special with her.(ii)This is absolutely key with quick seductions that of necessity have to lead to sex at another time – you HAVE to have MAJOR attraction, escalate smoothly, confidently and in a dominant way, and then later when she gives you a chance to make her feel a little special, you take it.
I’ve had 3 minute, hell 2 minute no closes from nightclubs, coffee shops etc that have led to prolonged contact and in some cases, sex. You have to sense the energy of the interaction and leave on a high note when her interest is high…don’t let it flag and don’t talk too fucking much. (iii) Even though she probably knows it’s bullshit, in her mind she is probably resolved of all responsibility as I am the one escalating etc.
She knows she wants to fuck but has to rationalise it to herself in some way, so will most definitely come down with the view “I’m not going to shag him”, but will do it and then rationalise afterwards that it was all my fault…
I am typing this at work and my manager is watching me like a fucking hawk, I will come back to it another time and reread to make sure it makes sense…anyway there have been other examples but I wanted to give a detailed breakdown so you could see what I was talking about Summary
(i) Escalate physically, SMOOTHLY, CONFIDENTLY, DOMINANT. She WILL be sucked into it if you do this, doesn’t matter that much where you are.
(ii) Leave the interaction on a high note
(iii) There’s NOTHING wrong with her thinking you’re a player, it’s a challenge to her, she is turned on by it and will give you a way in by dropping little hints so that you can make her feel a little special
(iv) When you see her again, escalate from where you left off. First thing you do when you see her – walk up to her, kiss her and grab her arse.
Hope this helps!!
Vertex
Pulled a HB 8.5 and are attracting well? Better lather some rapport on there sonny jim, otherwise you in fo a whole heap o flaking.
In a group situation? Better go in a take care of the CB’s first, and fo sho don’t game the target direct, cos she’ll blow you out and kick you to the kerb, girlfriend.
Bollocks.
I’m speaking from my own personal experience on this matter, so what I wanted to talk about was the notion of having to have all this rapport / comfort in order to ensure the HB will meet you again after the first encounter. In my view, it’s not necessary, at least not to the degree that a lot of guys seem to think. Attraction and fascination will do just fine.
NOTE : Obviously it’s preferable to have some kind of connection, however I am posting this because I think it’s helpful in situations where :
(i) There isn’t enough fucking time for rapport i.e train station, tube, etc etc.(ii) You’re in an environment where there are lots of HB’s and you don’t want to spend hours with her talking shite.
(iii) You get the point.
Here is an example which illustrates the point, with follow up:
I met HB 8.5 tall redhead at Cheltenham train station last Friday, I thought I would game her for a laugh as I haven’t been doing too much recently.
Me : Hey how long does x take to get to London, it doesn’t say on the boardHB 8.5 tall redhead : Er about 2 hours I thinkMe : Wow you’re really expressive with your hand gestures, what are you a gangster or something? You Italian?
(Fake gangster accent a la Robert De Niro, with exaggerated hand gestures)
Ehhh, forget abaaaat it, so where you goin eh? Hot damn..HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing): I’m going to Swindon Me : Whatchou goin there for, wassa matta withchu? Come with me to London.. (Puts hand under chin and gestures toward her, gangster style HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing more) : Hey I’d love to but I’m tired from work, blah blah Me : Ah yeah, work eh. Hah I bet you’re tired, climing up that pole, stripper girl.
Thus the convo was started
So we get on the train and talk more, I tell her I have been to see my accountant and she tells me she is a trainee account. At this point we’re sitting opposite each other, so I move across next to her and show her my expenses on my laptop (I also show her pics of HB Spanish model who I’ve been shagging, I don’t know why but this came up)
So I have about 1 hour to game her, plenty.
keep busting on her about various things and then go kino. Hardcore. Started off brushing a bit of hair off her face and told her I love readheads, she says I’m cheesy but is loving it. We’re chatting like this for a while and then some guy sits opposite so I open up my laptop and start typing messages for her on the screen.
It revolves around star signs and sexuality, I tell her that she is a naughty girl and a typical red head, she accuses me of being a player, doing this all the time etc…I eventually say to her that I think we should go to the toilets and fuck, she replies with something like (my heart says yes but my head says no…I can’t do it,, I’m a good girl).
I am escalating kino all the time, I put my hand on her knee and tell her that perfect symmetry is rare in nature, she says one of her knees is bigger than the other as she had an accident once, etc etc. So I play about with this for a while and then move my hand further up, part her legs etc and stroke thighs…Then lean in and nibble on her neck and earlobes…
After more of this and more sexy talk I end up getting off with her, not hugely passionate kissing but proper, right on the train This is a crowded train, there’s a guy opposite and to the other side are various other passengers. They can’t see my hand under the table though… As she gets off I smack her on the arse (my speciality) and tell her I’ll be seeing her real soon…I have the number of course.
So try to get her down at the weekend but she doesn’t make it although she has rung me twice and will prob come down on Sunday.
THE REAL KEY TO THIS POST :
I could sense that she thought I was a player and not really faithful to girls and she felt like one in a long queue, so I had to at least provide some sort of spurious reason for her to come down and shag me (ok she hasn’t yet but the fact that she has called twice now indicates to me that it’s on. If she does come down, I am 95% sure I will nail her).
So I sent her a txt, along the lines of “Hey in all seriousness, I know we got a bit carried away there on the train but I did really quite like you..I felt we had something there and I want to see where it takes us, it’s not very often I meet someone I really like..You felt it too babe didn’t you, I know you did..Speak soon.”
The KEY points here are:
(i) She was obviously very attracted and that alone may have guaranteed a shag AT THAT TIME (e.g at her house), however due to the time lag she might have flaked, however because the attraction and fascination was so strong she made it easy for me to progress things by making comments like “you’re a player, don’t go shagging and leaving too many girls when you go out this weekend” etc etc.
She was making it clear that she thought I was like that, BUT WAS GIVING ME A CLEAR WAY OUT OF IT, all I had to say was that I felt something special with her.(ii)This is absolutely key with quick seductions that of necessity have to lead to sex at another time – you HAVE to have MAJOR attraction, escalate smoothly, confidently and in a dominant way, and then later when she gives you a chance to make her feel a little special, you take it.
I’ve had 3 minute, hell 2 minute no closes from nightclubs, coffee shops etc that have led to prolonged contact and in some cases, sex. You have to sense the energy of the interaction and leave on a high note when her interest is high…don’t let it flag and don’t talk too fucking much. (iii) Even though she probably knows it’s bullshit, in her mind she is probably resolved of all responsibility as I am the one escalating etc.
She knows she wants to fuck but has to rationalise it to herself in some way, so will most definitely come down with the view “I’m not going to shag him”, but will do it and then rationalise afterwards that it was all my fault…
I am typing this at work and my manager is watching me like a fucking hawk, I will come back to it another time and reread to make sure it makes sense…anyway there have been other examples but I wanted to give a detailed breakdown so you could see what I was talking about Summary
(i) Escalate physically, SMOOTHLY, CONFIDENTLY, DOMINANT. She WILL be sucked into it if you do this, doesn’t matter that much where you are.
(ii) Leave the interaction on a high note
(iii) There’s NOTHING wrong with her thinking you’re a player, it’s a challenge to her, she is turned on by it and will give you a way in by dropping little hints so that you can make her feel a little special
(iv) When you see her again, escalate from where you left off. First thing you do when you see her – walk up to her, kiss her and grab her arse.
Hope this helps!!
Vertex