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John Candy

10-01-2007, 02:51 PM

I ask an opinion about a FACT (objective)

In may they PROMISE this incredible TRANSPARENCY VIDEO FREEEEEEE!!!!!!
Now, october, 5 months later, you have TO PAY for it.

I reposted the newsletter (see the parts in red)

I'm almost exploding.

Blitz here... from a secret location near San Diego... with
a Venusian Arts newsletter that's just a TAD "different" today.

taochi, I'm sitting on BIG news, affecting Mystery,
The Venusian Arts, and the Community as a whole...

If you know me from our bootcamps, you know that I'm not the
kind of guy who gets too excited about stuff too quickly.

But you'll also know that I like to call a spade a spade.
You know that my straightforward attitude, yes, also known as
my MOUTH, gets me into trouble ALL the freakin' time.

So imagine poor old Blitz, sitting on this big announcement,
but muzzled up by this damn IRCONCLAD NON-DISCLOSURE
AGREEMENT... an agreement that keeps me from just blurting
out what you are dying to hear.

Torture.

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WELL I GUESS IT'S THE GOOD HURT.
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'Cause the NEWS that I have is mostly GOOD NEWS.

Did I say mostly?

Well there's also some bad news. Having to do with future
availability of Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, and myself as
instructors together, IN THE FIELD, for you.

Having to do with the highly interactive bootcamp format
that allows every single student to be in earshot of ALL
FOUR OF US, out in a bar or club, as we barrel through
pickup after pickup, pulling numbers and makeouts right in
front of your very eyes.

Yes taochi that bad news also has to do with your
future ability as a student to get direct feedback on YOUR
game, from ALL OF US: Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop, *AND*
myself, in the flesh - all wrapped in one bootcamp, at its
current fee structure.

Yes, you may soon be unable to get training from all four
"titans of pickup" at once, in one place, at one time.

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HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND
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Lovedrop is looking over my shoulder and gives me that
"look"... as if to say, "you've already told too much!"
Didn't I tell you my mouth gets me into trouble all the
time?

Fine, I went so far, I might as well clarify. Look, I don't
want to freak you out taochi, but the bootcamp
format where you get to receive direct, personal training
from ALL of us, especially Mystery, may be on its way out
this spring. Because BIG things are happening for Mystery
and The Venusian Arts. And when I say BIG, I mean BIG.

I know, I know... if you've been sitting on the fence about
signing up for a bootcamp this spring, it wouldn't be fair
to leave you with a cliffhanger like this.

The thing is, I *REALLY* can't tell you more than I've
already let on. Not today anyway.

So here's what we'll do instead: We've revamped our blog to
become the official information hub for the new bootcamp
format.

Sound fair?

New posts are pending already and will come in fast and
furious, almost daily now. It's interactive too, because I
want you, to ask questions and post comments
online:

http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/

Now as you post there, you'll find that some of my answers
will be more detailed than others. Remember the
nondisclosure agreement we all signed? Our lawyers will
probably give me hell for having revealed so much in this
newsletter already!!

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THE SECRET WAY TO GET INSIDER MYSTERY INFO
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But I wouldn't be Blitz if I couldn't find a sneaky way to
drop you some "hints" in response to every question you ask.
You're a smart cookie , you can read between
the lines, right?

And yeah, there'll STILL be that BIG announcement as soon as
our lawyers have "unmuzzled" me. Not sure when that will be.
Could be tomorrow. Could be in a week. I honestly don't know
myself!

So check the blog every day. I want you, to be
the first to know what happens to our bootcamps, if you've
at all been contemplating signing up for one, okay?

http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/

Okay Lovedrop is really giving me dirty looks now. I'd
better get off this bootcamp thing. Didn't mean to get all
'cloak and dagger' on you.

The last thing I'll say about this stuff is that if you
thought Style's book, "The Game" changed things for the
Community and for Mystery...

Well this new thing is waaaaaaay bigger. (And 'The Game was
a New York Times bestseller!)

So what does this have to do with you?

Plenty.

Maybe I'm being a little dramatic—but I feel like a nuke (of
good stuff) is about to go off, and this tight little
community is right in the center of it.

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WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU?
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Well for starters, Mystery will be GIVING YOU a lot of stuff
free.

Why?

Because he can.

After the BIG announcement that's about to break in a few
days, you'll fully understand. You'll see *WHY* Mystery
really is in the mood to give back to this tight-knit
community this year.

He's not kidding when he says he loves every single one of
you. He'll be giving away stuff at www.VenusianArts.com
that's so valuable, other Pick-Up Gurus need to SELL similar
products, for hundreds of dollars a pop, because they have
literally nothing else to offer!

(I know I'm going to catch a bunch of flack for this
statement, but without Mystery's continued involvement
with this community, hardly anything new and interesting
and good would happen.)

But the stuff you're about to get, it's not even like the
stuff Mystery's old students and these other guys are
selling.

John Candy

10-01-2007, 02:52 PM

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THIS IS WAY BETTER
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Like, for example a totally different kind of interview.

There's a reason that Mystery has shied away from these
kinds of interview products for years. Now let me make
sure I'm being clear here:

Whenever Mystery's friends have asked Mystery to
contribute his unique ideas, testing results and, cutting-
edge techniques, he's always tried to help out if he had
the time.

But there's a big reason that Mystery's never created and
sold his own interview products—because he wasn't satisfied
with the traditional interview-style format where one dude
asks other successful dudes what they do.

Mystery's reasons are simple:

* Big Huge Problem #1: Though years of being the world's
top pickup artist, Mystery has learned from thousands of
other men and women... by OBSERVING them fist hand.

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That's Because Mystery Has Discovered That Very Few
People Know How To Explain *WHY* They Are Successful.
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Most, if not all, interview products you find simply
ASK the interviewee—typically a PUA who MIGHT know
What they are talking about, tells you what it is that they
*THINK* they know about how they get girls.

You don't get to SEE the PUA in action... which creates two
all-new problems:

1. How do you KNOW that this guy's style is going to work
for you? Or if it even works at all, if you haven't seen it
first hand?

2. How do you learn what someone DOES by listening to
what they SAY?

But, even though this "ASK instead of SEE" is a massive
issue, there's an even *BIGGER* problem with these
traditional interview products.

* Big Huge Problem #2: One of the most important things
that Mystery has figured out is to learn from EVERYONE —
not just the successful people. Only that gets him the
shocking results we're used to seeing from him.

Here's what I mean:

Can you imagine if you tried to learn anything just by
doing things RIGHT, but totally ignoring what you could
learn from your MISTAKES, and the mistakes of others?

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CRAZY, RIGHT?
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But even though that's just weird, whenever I see an
interview product, it's always with PUAs with few if
any average frustrated chumps involved.

Now before you laugh at the idea of some famous
PUA interviewing someone who is still having troubles
getting chicks, let me tell you this...

Mystery actually says he's learned as much, if not
MORE by watching people who weren't getting results.

Well, I wasn't kidding when I said get ready to get
something GOOD.

Instead of Mystery answering questions, kick back
and get ready to enjoy lengthy(!) hidden-camera video
of none other than Mystery, picking up girl after girl,
from opening to attraction to qualifying to comfort.

(If you're not up on all of the lingo, that means prepare
to WATCH Mystery pick up!)

But we want to bring it to a different level than even
that.

So you're ALSO going to get detailed expert commentary , on
every technique used, with every second of social
interaction explained in depth...

By Mystery's wing, Lovedrop!

So it's just like you're standing in a bar, next to Lovedrop
while Mystery moves in — and Lovedrop translates every
move and every motion while you listen in and absorb.

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BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
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Remember, just a minute ago, I told you that there were
TWO BIG PROBLEMS with most interview products?

Well Mystery has solved the second big problem, that
you don't get to learn from EVERYONE, like the REAL experts
do...

Mystery's asked Lovedrop to *demonstrate* the three
Biggest mistakes that beginners make, and their easy
corrections.

Now once again, you heard me say DEMONSTRATE —
that's because, like I said, Mystery is all about doing
it and showing you, instead of relying in a bunch of
excuses about why you can't see for yourself.

Just so you know, it took years of intense in-field
testing to identify these simple mistakes that you're
going to be able to use, to get maximum results in no
time.

(By the way, at this point, you can see why thousands
of people have paid Mystery and his team thousands
of dollars each to learn in-person in-field, from Mystery
himself, so they can actually see everything for
themselves!)

Plus this video will include tough, in-depth questions
asked directly by one of Mystery's students, leaving
nothing vague and unexplained.

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We call it the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO.
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While others offer you excuses, we're putting you in
the field from the comfort of your computer. And it's
all free.

In fact, I'm not even aware of a SINGLE product on the
market, free or for sale, that incorporates ALL of these
three elements:

1) Virtual Approach: Watch and listen to hidden camera
footage of Mystery live in field picking-up... with
commentary from his wing.

2) Demonstration: Mystery's wing, Lovedrop, shows
you the three biggest mistakes that beginners make
when it comes to pick-up, and the easy fixes.

3) Accountability: Detailed, tough Q&A with a prodigy
student...

Enter Dex.

Dex is Mystery's student.

Dex is just like many guys who have put up with years
of frustration, loneliness, and awkwardness.

When I heard him say "Even when I was married, I felt
like I was all alone." I totally understood.

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It's NOT Their Fault!
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Almost every guy that I've ever met who's suffered through
the awkward frustration and loneliness, didn't know what
Mystery knows.

And when they found out, things changed right away.

But there is one BIG difference when it comes to Dex.

Here's what I mean:

One of the big announcements (there are LOTS!) on
the horizon is that Mystery's been experimenting
with brand new training methods...

And Mystery may have reinvented pickup once again.

Now I am a screen actor, and I've appeared in a couple
Of movies you might have seen, but don't think that
Just because I'm an actor that I'm being dramatic when
I told Mystery that some people were going to accuse
him of having a secret time machine.

What am I talking about?

When I met Dex a few weeks ago he already had an
astonishing story of transformation. I'll get to that
in a second, but let me tell you this first...

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HERE'S THE WEIRD PART
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It's not all that unusual for a student to have the
kind of transformation that Dex has had — but let
me just say that I just went out with him last night
and I'm just pulling myself together now at 8 PM.

Things got WILD.

I read the first few pages of the field report he's
created for us on the little experience including the
"lucky drink spill" story and, who knows, maybe
even some freaking techniques that he's created...

And it was nuts!

My point is that Dex keeps getting better and better
at an almost weird pace.

The last time I saw him one hot chick, Kelly, was trying
to physically rip him away from a 5 foot 10 go-go
dancer who's leg wrapped around him. Lucky guy. ;-)

I PROMISE to bug Dex to finish up that report and if
Mystery says I can't show you, then I'll do whatever I
have to change his mind. You must read this.

Don't thank me, I can't WAIT to see how it turned out
myself.

Ok, so here's the other thing about Dex:

He's YOUR advocate in our company.

He'll ask the questions that *YOU* would want to have
answered. He brings up the problems that *YOU* would have in
the field. He never approaches things like a jaded pick-up
guru would...

Because he's a STUDENT of Mystery's JUST LIKE YOU.

Dex is not going to let any superficial explanation slip by.
Dex is going to ask the tough questions of Mystery, Matador,
Lovedrop, and myself.

John Candy

10-01-2007, 02:53 PM

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WHO IS DEX?
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When Dex showed up for the Las Vegas bootcamp in March, I
could tell right away that he's going to be our next success
story.

He'd only read Mystery's book in January, right after
breaking up with his girlfriend of two and a half years.

Dex told me that reading Mystery turned his life around - in
only two months. I believed him. He stood out right away as
the "cool cat" at the bootcamp. I knew he was going to get
results.

And I wasn't disappointed. On the first night out, we saw
him grinding on the dance floor, making out with a petit
blonde, for what seemed like hours.

On the second night of the bootcamp, he kiss-closed another
blonde within 3 minutes of meeting her, right in front of
our instructor's eyes... and pulled her into bed the same
night!

Respect, as our friend Style would say.

This wasn't him before he read Mystery. After his marriage,
he'd always muddled his way from one girlfriend to the next,
messing up more often than succeeding, and never feeling that
he had CHOICE with women.

Have any of YOUR friends stayed in long-term relationship
much longer than they should have?

That was Dex before he found Mystery.

Ever seen anyone you know get stuck in a dating situation
where the energy suddenly fizzled... with the seduction went
absolutely nowhere?

That was Dex before he found Mystery.

Since Mystery touched his life, this guy has truly undergone
an amazing transformation. From AFC with *EVERYONE'S* AFC
problems, to being well on his way to master PUA.

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A MASTER PUA???
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I was skeptical too when LD told me about how much Dex had
advanced since the bootcamp a couple of weeks ago...

In fact, I went all the way to San Diego, in part, to see.

And there are other guys too, using the same new stuff.

I don't want to get all scientificy on you or anything but:

What's Mystery doing now that's so different from before
that's causing such radical transformation.

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DON'T READ THIS PART IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW
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Have you ever heard of 'muscle memory?'

It's the idea that you can sort of hard-wire your brain to
act a certain way. And it's the reason that Mystery and
his entourage have gone out in the field for years — to
hard-wire the perfect moves into their brains.

But to transform an AFC into a PUAs usually took years of
grueling work, was expensive and often involved a lot of
humiliating risks.

Take Style, one of Mystery's star protégés. But his
transformation took long years, lots of money and if you've
read "The Game", you saw just a few of the embarrassing
circumstances he found himself in before he was truly
recognized as a PUA.

Plus Style had the advantage of the fact that he was
Mystery's protégé, so Mystery could carefully monitor
Style's progress and help Style craft and tune his game to
the masterpiece it is today.

Style now literally has pick-up hard wired into his brain.

What if it was possible to automatically hard-wire that same
muscle memory into YOUR head with a fraction of the work and
expense — and what if I told you that it was as fun as
watching an episode of Entourage???

Well, I can't *totally* spill the beans on this yet, but
I'll just say that Mystery, Matador, & Lovedrop may just have
invented a way...

When I heard that Dex was taking positively Style like leaps
in practically no time I was skeptical.

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AFTER WATCHING DEX LAST NIGHT, I'M A BELIEVER
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And now, because of Mystery's new experiment, Dex is
taking *YOUR* path. And he's living *OUR* lifestyle now.

He started out like *YOU*, reading Mystery's book, going out
four nights a week, and getting blown out of set after set
after set. Now, just a couple of months later, he's got
intuitive, seemingly effortless game, getting stronger and
stronger every weekend we go out with him.

Can you imagine the possibilities?

Having been in the game only for a couple of months, he
still remembers his AFC days clearly. Who better than Dex to
be *YOUR* advocate with Mystery and the guys?

So watch our blog for Dex to ask tough questions of us.
Tough questions that only a recent AFC would ask. Tough
questions that YOU would ask!

In fact, the first time that you can benefit from Dex's
perspective on Mystery's teachings will be the TRANSPARENCY
VIDEO... the product that Mystery insisted we give away to
the community BEFORE his big announcement hits the media.

You'll get:

- Hidden camera footage of Mystery picking up girl after
girl

- with expert demonstration from my wing and good friend
Lovedrop

- plus tough questions asked by Dex, YOUR advocate with
Mystery and us!

How much would you pay for a product like this? $100? $300?
$500? A thousand smackers?

Mystery is going to give the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO away
for free. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

When? I can't say. What I can say, though, is that you will
hear about here first. Watch your e-mail inbox for another
note from me.

Later...

Blitz

P.S. Okay I'm back at the keyboard even though it's getting
late here in San Diego... Lovedrop and Dex are bugging me to
get off the computer so we can go out tonight.

But I think I have another moment to give you my personal
take on Mystery's gift to you, the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO. Maybe
my big mouth is getting me into trouble again, but I *HAVE*
to get this off my chest:

Working with students in the field who have bought pickup
product after pickup product, I deal with a lot of guys
whose pickup minds are almost broken beyond repair. The
sheer amount of false information, or copycat stuff and
garbage fed to students (for a lot of money) truly saddens
me. Bet you didn't think Blitz could be saddened by
anything. But I truly am.

I personally can't wait too see this free video product in
your hands, taochi. To me, it's all about this new
idea of TRANSPARENCY in the community, and I'm proud to
introduce it here, on Mystery's behalf.

See, many of the routines, interviews and techniques that
Mystery's imitators have been selling to you for big
dollars... we are going to GIVE them away in form of the
TRANSPARENCY VIDEO (watch the blog for updates).

http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/

Look, I know that I may be stepping on a
lot of toes with what I'm about to say. That's kind of my
role with Mystery and the guys anyway, so I'll go ahead and
put my foot right into my mouth:

After watching this free video, to be released very soon,
you might as well return many of our competitor's products
for a full refund. Because all the techniques and bits that
they "borrowed" from Mystery in the first place, and which
they now sell so expensively, Mystery is willing to show
you at no charge.

Why?

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BECAUSE HE CAN
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Because Mystery has things in store for you that will
completely transcend the techniques, the bits, the routines,
all the things that others have copied from him over the
years.

How many times have you heard that you have to "be" Mystery
to apply his method? That you have to be tall like him, be
peacocked like him, use the same routines as he does?

As Mystery is about to open a new chapter in helping you get
the girl, I personally would like to throw these
misconceptions overboard... once and for all.

Do you know what I believe?

I believe that seeing...

- Mystery's full-length pickups on hidden camera,
- expert demonstration by Lovedrop,
- answering tough questions by a prodigy student like Dex

...may actually send Mystery's imitators running for cover.

Having now thoroughly offended our friends in the industry,
let me say though that that's not the prime reason for my
personal excitement about the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO.

For me, as an instructor who works with students like you,
taochi, on a daily basis, you watching this video
means that you and I are starting with a clean slate.

It means purging from your mind the vague, misleading or
outright false information that you've been fed over the
years, and probably spent thousands of dollars on. It means
that I can start fresh with you, when I see you at the next
bootcamp.

Yes, I hinted that our bootcamp format will change
dramatically... that Mystery, Matador, Lovedrop and I, may
be DRAMATICALLY less available to train you directly, as a
team...

So yes, that means that there's some urgency to watch our
blog, as I may be relieved from my nondisclosure commitment
about the new bootcamp format any day now.

http://venusianarts.c.topica.com/maa...b8eaQlbaehtzV/

Till Next Time!,

Blitz
The Venusian Arts, LLC.

Charybdis

10-07-2007, 11:36 AM

So hold on everybody, the promised free videos are coming, VA DID NOT LIE!

"I also have fr*e videos," he continued. "that I need to release on
Area51Lifestyle.com - training from Matador, training from JDog, and
a few clips from the course."

a snippet from Mystery's email (I have just received it)

John Candy

10-07-2007, 02:59 PM

So hold on everybody, the promised free videos are coming, VA DID NOT LIE!

Hey mate, i advice you to shut up. You are ridiculous.
READ THE NEWSLETTER. THE PARTS IN RED.
THIS
How much would you pay for a product like this? $100? $300?
$500? A thousand smackers?

Mystery is going to give the TRANSPARENCY VIDEO away
for free. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

See, many of the routines, interviews and techniques that
Mystery's imitators have been selling to you for big
dollars... we are going to GIVE them away in form of the
TRANSPARENCY VIDEO (watch the blog for updates).

After watching this free video, to be released very soon,
you might as well return many of our competitor's products
for a full refund. Because all the techniques and bits that
they "borrowed" from Mystery in the first place, and which
they now sell so expensively, Mystery is willing to show
you at no charge.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH OF FUCKING CLIPS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SETS OF DVD THEY PROMISED FREE

Charybdis

10-08-2007, 04:19 AM

LOL, 21 DVD's, 13 CD's and ebooks for free? And it took several months to create it, and based on many YEARS of infield experience. Are you joking?

JekDaPUA

10-08-2007, 04:50 AM

u people r confusing the transparency video with the new "training pack"

Slick

10-08-2007, 06:15 AM

Jetstar

10-08-2007, 08:34 AM

Hey Charybdis,

You said in a previous post that the course will cost close to $997. When will you guys let us know?

It certainly looks like Mehow found out about Mystery's Infield training and beat you guys to the punch.

I'm ready to buy Mystery's product, but you better let us know how much the Magnum Opus is soon or I'll have to go with Mehow.

ReallyPatheticFatSlob

10-08-2007, 09:11 AM

I don't read the Venusianarts newsletters, I like reading ones that actually give pick-up advice.

I read a lot of Captain Jack's Field Reports, i don't know if all of them are that real, but they're entertaining.

Thor

10-08-2007, 10:41 AM

VA is a business. Theyre out to make money. They will do whatever it takes to make a quick buck with as little effort as possible. This has also been made apparent by the clear and undeniable refusal by all of the instructors to make regularly post on this group, unless of course theyre trying to get publicity for their latest bootcamp.

VENUSIAN ARTS: WAKE THE FUCK UP. You can only play the "We're the home of Mystery so you have to buy from us" card for so long.

Couture

10-08-2007, 02:16 PM

someone like you shouldn't be able to get women anyway...

LOL!!!!!!.....

Greystoke

10-08-2007, 09:21 PM

robert12

11-06-2007, 01:07 AM

The transparency video and the under21convention
video, were in the same boat... travelling on the pacific
ocean. When trajedy awoke! The boat was pirated by
CaptainJack of the mystery method corporation :mad:

Neither free video made it's way to the venusianarts
or venusian skills corporation's, but both have separate
programs you can purchase at the cost of pirates treasure.

Sincerely(;)),
Slick

Venusian Skills is a NOT Venusian Arts. The Under 21 Convention footage is available free at venusianskills.com. No white lies or black lies. I just watched it. The whole thing is there for FREE. 9 freaking hours of streaming video. It sucks it took so long to be up when it was promised it would be available over a month ago; but they made on their promise. The Venusian Skills website looks pretty together.

John Candy

11-06-2007, 03:16 AM

someone like you shouldn't be able to get women anyway...
You're mother doesn't think so :rolleyes:

John Candy

11-06-2007, 03:17 AM

someone like you shouldn't be able to get women anyway...
You're mother doesn't think so :rolleyes:

Couture

11-07-2007, 02:30 AM

What does CaptainJack have to do with this?

Pirates lie

Khaki

01-27-2008, 10:54 AM

I don't read the Venusianarts newsletters, I like reading ones that actually give pick-up advice.

Bingo. I gave up on the newsletter when I realized it was just Blitz/Mike Long peddling products I couldn't afford.