THE ULTIMATE TEST for the Venusian Arts

[chuyerik]

I just realized... given the fact that the MM and the Venusian Arts in general are done through the emotions of the female, then that would mean that it defies her logic. Sure, she may consider it logically ("he's gaming me"), but it would not be enough for her emotions to get the best of her and become attached to the PUA.

So here's the deal:

The ultimate test for the Venusian Arts would demonstrate its validity and reliability. In my opinion, it would be to TELL THE GIRL YOU WILL GAME HER and despite this (game her and) succeed in picking her up.

I would imagine the situation to be something like... introducing her into and talking about the Venusian Arts and then telling her it works against her logic and that she wouldn't be able to resist. Then, say "Let me demonstrate..." and game her (or at least begin doing so) successfully.

My main question is this: Would the MM/Venusian Arts/etc work on her despite her knowing that you are in fact gaming her?

[Revel]

Case in point. I went to a 21st Birthday party on Saturday night for one of my wings colleagues. All of his female colleagues know he's into game and that I am as well. We walked in and owned the room, merged the sets not actually trying to Pickup. The result a number of the women coming up to my wing ever since saying they wished that they hadn't brought their boyfriends. Funnily enough as well, they keep trying to insist that we weren't actually running game at all. "He was just a really fun sociable guy" "He was so interesting" "He had this confidence about him, it was really sexy".

[Greystoke]

It's not a test. A woman wants to be gamed properly. Not the wussy ill buy you dinner and flowers and let you walk over me and in return i can fuck you in the arse way.

[Cedar]

Would the MM/Venusian Arts/etc work on her despite her knowing that you are in fact gaming her?


Yes. It does.

[Session]

Case in point. I went to a 21st Birthday party on Saturday night for one of my wings colleagues. All of his female colleagues know he's into game and that I am as well. We walked in and owned the room, merged the sets not actually trying to Pickup. The result a number of the women coming up to my wing ever since saying they wished that they hadn't brought their boyfriends. Funnily enough as well, they keep trying to insist that we weren't actually running game at all. "He was just a really fun sociable guy" "He was so interesting" "He had this confidence about him, it was really sexy".
Agreed. A woman would like nothing better than to have a proper PUA pick her up. This of course, doesn't mean she wants to hear the same lines/canned stories, but she wants to be engaged in a conversation and meet a guy of higher value.

[Cr8ton]

even though u can pick them up after giving them knowledge of you gaming them, it also gives them a valid reason to NOT talk to you, because you are "just like every other guy" who just wants sex.. and ur putting on a show to get it. Idk about this, i'd have to think about it but mostly I think it depends on the women and what she will allow herself to go through with, regardless of emotions engaging or not, she still has a logical side and can logically keep distance from becoming close to a "gamer".

[Killikina]

Yes it would still work. You might have to more original depending on how much she knows or else she'll call you on it.

[xenos]

Some girls are attracted to you, preselection wise, when you tell them you pick up women. It's a lot easier with the right girl.

[Kurt Jaydestone]

yes it works
just more proof of coarse but

i was leaning towards this chick at the jewlry counter in the mall

and i opened her and then when i dhv'd i did so by telling her i was a pickup artist and i did so alot and we chated for about 5 minutes but i auto maticly dlv because i asked her age and she was 25 note that im 17
and i kinda just gave her my number in order to eject
i felt real lost
as you can see i definitely could have had some type of ltr w/ her but
because of the age differnce i got the ljbf and i admit my opener was a little weak but she was to me an hb7.5 short hair brown eyes skin tone=french toast :p

[mik3b4321]

i have a lil different point of view about us gaming girls. i think girls SHOULD NOT KNOW that we're not gaming them. of course, some girls will allow you to see what we got. but, i think generally we're suppose to be stealth like ninjas :D doing this. that s why some girls might say " just be yourself" bs.
main thing's we fucking RULE! i would TOSE for that! i wanna see all of us going in the same club rippin it up! people will be like " who the hell are those guys?!"
WE'RE VENUSIAN ARTISTS BABY!

[Rebirth]

it works to your advantage, if you play it right. social proof, pre-selection...

RB

[Unique_pua]

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My main question is this: Would the MM/Venusian Arts/etc work on her despite her knowing that you are in fact gaming her?

I've experienced this just a couple of weeks ago. I closed this HB7 just by talking about game to a guy with her present. She was in awe when I talked about all my experiences.
My theory is that the Social Proof was so intense and strong that she acted because of it.
I did'nt use any routines on her, but demonstrated a great Authority in her world.

Unique