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DeviousEnglish
09-16-2007, 12:45 PM
Hi guys

Im 23 and i live in England. I am completly new to the whole PUA thing.
I picked up a copy of "The Game" the other week and it completly blew me away. I recently came out of a 4 year relationship which has left me a little downhearted and wondering if i would meet someone else. ( i think this is quite natural after a long relationship). Im half way through the book and its made me a feel alot better about my situation and given me a totally new direction. Im you AFC and i have always been very nervous about approaching girls, talking to girls etc etc.

Right lets cut to the chase!

Yesterday i put together a cheat sheet of different openers, games, tricks that i picked up from books and off the net to use that night.
I went out with a friend of mine who i have a told about this book but he has yet to read anything.
I decided that i was gonna go to a few regular bars first and sink a few drinks before moving on to somewhere i was going to try and run a routine. However when i was at the first bar i had just finished running the Mind reading number game on my friend when the waitress came over and asked if we wanted anymore drinks so i said " No thanks, but do you mind if i try something on you" She said "OK" i said " Think of a number between 1 - 4, you got it?" she said " yea " i said "Three" she said "Two" i said " Shit, you must have something dark about you" She laughed and walked away to carry on working. The reason why i quickly treid this was i wanted to see if i could do it just off the cuff! Making sure that i had good eye contact, good smile and that i was looking relaxed and confident which i think i did quite well. Even though it didnt work! Fuck it dont matter.

After visiting a few more bars we decided to find somewhere that was a bit more happening so we went to a large bar that was open late and was playing chart music which usually attracts nice, young girls. When we arrived we went in making sure i was head up, smiling and walking with confidence.
We spent the next 30mins going to the bar and getting drinks and popping outside for a cigarette.
Then when we came back in i spotted a 2set not to far from the bar. One girl was HB5 and the other was a HB7. These girls came across as quite shy just kinda of looking around, not really dancing and not really talking. I turned to my mate and i said "go to the bar and a get us some drinks then come and find me" i decided i was gonna make my move. I approached them from the side as they were facing each other standing by a post with drinks holders. At this point i might mention the music was quite loud and thought this was gonna be a problem when i came in. Anyway i leaned in quite close so they could hear me and i said " Can i get your opinion on something" i think i had to repeat this a few times due to the music. HB7 said " Well, i know more guys that have cheated than girls" i said " OK, what about you?" The HB5 said " Well i guess guys, i agree with my friend i know more guys that have cheated" I tried to read how they reacted to it but i could'nt help but feel that they thought it was a chat up. Then i said " I only ask because i was getting my haircut the other day and i was reading one of those girlie magazines you guys like to read and it said that girls actually cheat more than guys do" Immediately the HB7 said " Well i kinda agree i just think that girls are better at hiding it than men" at this point i realised she had just said what i was gonna follow up with. From there i just continued to agree by saying " Yea thats what i thought, guys always tend to want to brag and tell there friends". They said a few things between each other and i said a said a few things but found myself wondering what to say next when i think i said " So how long have you guys been friends etc.. ( at this point i used a bit of kino and pulled them both in closer to do the best friend test!) which went a bit wrong because they didnt look at each other but i think i managed to pull it off! After that i said to HB7 " do you believe in mind reading" She said " No" it which i ran the number game Pick a number between 1 - 4 which didnt work! Then i tried it again with her friend but with the 1 - 10 instead and that didnt work! ( any advice ). oh yea i forgot to say! when i got the HB7 number guess wrong i turned round and said " you are obviously more intelligent than you look" dunno if this was a good thing or not! Anyway after my failure i moved on to the 5 question game which i thought would defo get them. I explained it to the HB7 and tried to get her to bet that if i won she would have to buy me a drink and vice versa. She wasnt feeling it or maybe didnt understand (loud music again) so i did it on her friend instead and i got her on the 4th question which i got a good laugh from! (was well happy about that) then did it on the HB7. I got her aswell on the 4th question but she wasnt as impressed! This girl basicly came across as very quiet and shy and just very unresponsive and dont think it was to much to do with me or my game ( however im aware my game is poor but certainly better than the guy who later that evening i notice tried to chat them up but only lasted 30seconds before standing there with a stupid drunk look on his face!) At which point i ran out of things to say and said " Its been really nice talking to you, but i better go find my friend".

So there it is! Im well happy i made my first attempt and im beginning to understand the angle. However im not sure my material was suited to that situation ( loud bar/club )

any advice or general comments appreciated!

Royas
09-16-2007, 01:18 PM
haha dude sounds a little like what I experienced last night, first try etc.

I think we put too much hope in the material working everything for us. We're new at this and it'll take time to be congruent with it, we're gonna "crash and burn" a lot in the beginning, that's what's written in the book.

Material I believe should be used a little by little and we're too eager to practice it. We should just focus on running a good opener, remember to add a time constraint and make fun conversation while looking at them in the eyes and relaxing. Really enjoying the moment with them and getting to feel the vibe (wich is something very new to us).

Step by step man, take care :)

samos
09-24-2007, 12:06 PM
how do you guys get over that first bump of fear of rejection?

Merx
09-24-2007, 12:41 PM
Ive never been out in the field as I am currently studying the books, so take my advice with a pince of salt.

One thing that you didnt mention you did was give a false time constraint. Ie "I cant stay long, I have friends waiting" to create the fear of loss if you did attract them.

Also, if your wing aint trained, he aint your wing. Asking him to come find you without even really knowing about how to play the game could have ended in disaster if he showed up.

Also, it sounds like you didnt pick a target and it sounds like you had had quite a few drinks, dont drink if you wanna game or at least cut back.

Again, I have not been out in the field yet but Ive spent all weekend absorbing the first part of The Venusian Arts Handbook and thats what struck me from your story.

Keep going for it. Also, as a fellow Englishman, I wanna know as you keep going out, do any girls over here recognise when they are being gamed?

JeM
09-24-2007, 12:52 PM
how do you guys get over that first bump of fear of rejection?

Go out and get rejected. Seriously. Its really not as bad as all the hype surrounding it may make it seem.

In one of my first nights out quite a while back, I got "rejected" on the first set I opened. And whether you believe it or not, that actually opened me up to approach quite a few more sets that night. Why? Well, originally, I felt pretty bad - but then I felt as if a weight was lifted - it was like this: "Wow... thats the worst that could happen all night. Who cares if that happens again, especially if it can only get better from there?"

If you're talking in general... best advice I can give is to think about how when you go home that night, if you have not appraoched shit, how disappointed in yourself you'll feel - or simply treat it like a game. No pressure, no expectations - you just want to meet some new people.

If none of that works, I read about a strategy to use when I was first starting (and used it once to great success... it all but forces you): Go out with one of your friends - give them 100 dollars, and tell them to give you the money back only if you've approached 10 sets by the end of the night ($10 per set). Quite the motivation to actually go approach... or lose your money.


Trance

Apolo
09-24-2007, 01:02 PM
to the 1-4 and 1-10 routine; i've heard more and more that sometimes the routine just doesnt work so i was thinking (after i saw a show about this english guy convincing people to do extremely random things just by talking) that it's possible to use the same strategy for this routine.. I found that the guy (dont remember his name) gave subtle clues and implanted ideas before he asked... So what i was thinking is that after saying
"do you believe in mind reading" and she answers you can add "well i did this on three people today and they were all surprised.. ok so all i want you to do is... (etc)

Merx
09-24-2007, 01:16 PM
to the 1-4 and 1-10 routine; i've heard more and more that sometimes the routine just doesnt work so i was thinking (after i saw a show about this english guy convincing people to do extremely random things just by talking) that it's possible to use the same strategy for this routine.. I found that the guy (dont remember his name) gave subtle clues and implanted ideas before he asked... So what i was thinking is that after saying
"do you believe in mind reading" and she answers you can add "well i did this on three people today and they were all surprised.. ok so all i want you to do is... (etc)

Derren Brown?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown

Apolo
09-24-2007, 01:21 PM
yea that's him.. if you've seen his show most of the time when he convinces someone to give their wallet away or they let him pay with money he says things that implant little ideas into their minds.. I thought it probably had something to do with how he works. Oh by the way about what i said saying i asked three people puts the number 3 in her mind from the get-go

Merx
09-24-2007, 01:30 PM
yea that's him.. if you've seen his show most of the time when he convinces someone to give their wallet away or they let him pay with money he says things that implant little ideas into their minds.. I thought it probably had something to do with how he works. Oh by the way about what i said saying i asked three people puts the number 3 in her mind from the get-go

yea the one that sticks out for me is he had this guy, and said "I have a present in that box, and its exactly what you want"

And like what he did was when he was describing possible presents he said "some people like a BM (as in the car) *touched his knee* or an Xbox *touched his knee*"

and then the guy was asked what he wanted, he said it was a BMX. In the box, a BMX.

I think the seduction community can learn alot from Derren brown, some of his really outlandish stuff is obviously out of our leage, but alot of what he does is Kino related. As a fan Ive always watched his shows and noticed when he touches people etc at key moments. Basically I think somebody needs to write up how to incoroporate some of his basic tricks into a Kino-related routine.

Theres some videos on youtube. I would do it if I had the time but I simply dont right now unfortunatly.

Sorry for going off topic.