sticking point: when do you move from A2 to A3?

[husky]

how many IOIs you need ?
do you have to isolate the target?
how many negs you need to throw?
its seem like i have problem with moving on from A2 to A3 since i keep on DHV ,IOIs negs (she freeze me out), DHV IOIs negs ....on and on,
when is a good time to say" tell me more about urself"

[Session]

The way you move from phase to phase should be organic, there should never be a point where you need to say "tell me more about yourself." Have the girl jump through some hoops and before you know it she'll be working her ass off trying to qualify herself.

Personally, I don't count IOI's, only IOD's. I normally assume they are interested. Isolating the target is good if she is alone or in a 3 set or greater, other than that, if you don't have a wing, you have to game both her and her friend (assuming it's a girl, if it's a guy, you'll REALLY need a wingman/chick). I deliver 2 negs on average, 3 if the girl is still on the defense.

If you find yourself getting froze out, it may be because you aren't really demonstrating higher value (or well enough). Women tend to know when your stories around congruent with who you are. It seems like maybe you are negging too much as well, if you show too much disinterest, you might just come off as an asshole who wants to start sh*t and get giggles.

Hope that helped!

[Lopez]

I really suck at neging...i can't come up with them spur of the moment. What are some ideas ... like maybe about what they're wearing or any tip that would help me mentally figure out how to create a SOLID neg.

[mik3b4321]

wipe down the side of her lips. pretend her lipstick overlap or something. then, speak to the obstacle. DO NOT MAKE A SUBJECT ABOUT IT.

if you re walking pass by wit some sets & you see them staring at you. say, "dont just stare.. say hi! atleast!" that requires a smile. you dont want them to feel uncomfortable & end up looking like you re serious & mad about it. this one works as an opener also. but, a lil uncomfortable. depends to your body language & the tone of your voice.

"your nipples are hard. probably the weather"

that s how i really neg.. when i noticed something that s safe to neg about it. i go for it.

[Apolo]

"your nipples are hard. probably the weather"
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hahaha i like that one

[Cenron]

wipe down the side of her lips. pretend her lipstick overlap or something. then, speak to the obstacle. DO NOT MAKE A SUBJECT ABOUT IT.

if you re walking pass by wit some sets & you see them staring at you. say, "dont just stare.. say hi! atleast!" that requires a smile. you dont want them to feel uncomfortable & end up looking like you re serious & mad about it. this one works as an opener also. but, a lil uncomfortable. depends to your body language & the tone of your voice.

"your nipples are hard. probably the weather"

that s how i really neg.. when i noticed something that s safe to neg about it. i go for it.

I dig your negs...my only worry about the nipple thing would be that your showing to much interest by actually looking at her breasts

and with the rub the lipstick off the side of her mouth might make her un easy, most people dont like having strangers touch there face, I would probably build some kino before touching her face....my fav neg in the field is

Look at her while telling a story, stop in the middle and softley say
"Hey you got a little eye crusty" as you try to rub a fake one off yourself...showing her which eye then without saying anything else get back to your thread...this creates multi threads, forget the term for it, and makes her want to qualify her self to you.

Just my 2 cents