Rusty
01-29-2007, 02:46 PM
Day2's we all get them (I sincerely hope) but how many of us get consistent results.... consistent good results that is. The day2 is crucial, if you do not get the K-close on the day2 then all hope is lost, and your just another friend. Getting a Day2 is no achievement, women go on dates with guys they are not attracted to, this happens because of numerous reason. The only achievement that can come from a day2 is by closing on it. A common trend amongst the community is to put alot of effort into the original PU and after that they just go with the flow and just act alpha. Little effort goes into the day2. It appears to be an uncovered area....
DISCLAIMER; I am not a super savvy PUA I am a mere aPUA. The advice below is not fact and is all subject to opinion and experience. The advice is originated from clipets of other posts, my experience's and snippets from dating advice on the internet (which sucks, askmen should hold their head in shame). One thing I can say is I have never not closed on a Day2, even on my first date at 12 I K-closed at the cinema and this Saturday on my next day2 (there were day2's in between) I will more than likely close again. Happy reading.
I have searched the internet and found no satisfactory posts on the matter. So this post will cover the following topics; What is a good day2, Basing (a brand new technique), establishing the ideal emotions on a day2, creating a memory, leads, examples of Day2's, logistics, behaviour, payment and closing...in short this is my definitive guide to Day2's.
So what is the perfect day2... or date to are less clued up friends. How can you convey your exiting and fun personality that will enable you to go into the latter stages of seduction. How can you make a memorable day2? One general rule is; there is no perfect Day2. Each girl is different and you should tailor your day2 to her passions. This also applies to Holidays, there is no perfect holiday. But how many of you would reject a holiday to the Caribbean?. There are day2's that 99% of young women will enjoy.
The reasons your Quarry is on the day2. One aspect I must stress is not appearing to put too much effort into the day2, it has to appear casual and natural. So no tickets to see Kanye West day2's. I remember reading that Olympic skaters practice year upon year on their routines, just so they can appear natural. Knowledge and experience will create the illusion or reality that its natural, it needs to appear natural. The reason for this is so that it appears little effort is being made. And the reason we want the Day2 to appear low effort is because we dont want to appear to be making to much effort at the start, it will look like your trying to hard which is a DLV. And there are other reasons you want it to appear casual. I've had friends get day2's because they offer the HB something amazing, like Rock concerts and trips to London. This is very bad, as the HB's are only going for the experience of the rock show, as appose to the guy.... which is bad and wrong. Dont lure the quarry in with gifts and fancy dinners because they will use it. The reason the HB is going on the Day2 with you is because of you.... if its any other reason then don’t bother. So basically make the day2 casual. Or at least appear casual, do not lure them in with some fancy dinner.
I'm now going to introduce you all to something new, Basing. Its a very simple concept that I created. A base is the beginning of the Day2, where you meet is your base place. Your base has to be casual for reasons I explained above (so your not luring them in). You have to base the day2. Your base has to be something normal and casual like getting a coffee, going for a walk or shopping. It can be anything. She will come if you generated enough attraction.
Make it an experience. Sounds contradictory to what I’ve been saying. You make it an experience, YOU make it an experience.... don’t let the day2 be the main experience, your the experience. Make it fun and memorable. Once you know you have attraction in the bag then you can create rapport by sharing an amazing few hours together. Make a memory. Attraction and emotions increase when there is excitement, the emotion the Quarry has towards you will multiply 10 fold if you do something exiting. It has been scientifically proven that emotional and sexual arousal are strongly linked together. The emotion you want to evoke on your day2 is passion; hope+doubt= passion (SOI's+Barriers or DQ's create sex). Arouse her passion via Spontaneous and impulse behaviour. The stimuli will create an emotional escalation, which in turn will create a physical arousal. But how can i create this emotional stimuli you cry, well a good way to appear spontaneous is either by being spontaneous or have pre-planned leads (which you don’t mention to the quarry).
Having a lead. Your original day2 should be casual. Like i said earlier this is because you want her coming for you and nothing but you. Once she meets yourself you can then lead it (time bridge). Make the lead a surprise. But only use the lead when the time is right, ie when you feel a good vibe or else it seems forced. The lead has to appear spontaneous.... thus showing the HB you are indeed spontaneous (inevitable DHV). The lead can often make the experience. Increase emotions by being wild. Jumping from one place to another is a great way to create the feeling that the two of you have been together forever. Thus creating an emotion of comfort... this mixed with the excitement of the day will generate passion.
So now your thinking this is all good and well but we want examples. Well...
Here are a few examples of good day2's
Casual coffee... lead on to dessert tasting... back to yours... close
A walk in a big park... lead on to ice cream, a game of Frisbee... k-close
Go dancing... lead on to drinks in a bar.... back to yours (blast LMR).... close
Meet for a drink... (surprise lead) to some stand up comedy
Fun Fair/Theme Park... Blow Job on the Ferris wheel
Casual drink... lead her to the Zoo.... bestiality (only joking)
Meet in the mall... lead on to ice skating... Kino... k-close
Local Pub Quiz... lead on to clubbing... make use of cubicles
Not exactly Rocket science, huh. It doesn’t have to be.
Each city has unique elements that you can use as tools for your day2. Use your surroundings to create fun filled day2's. As those crazy freestyle jumpers (park awe?) say 'the world is your playground'. Its simple Logistics, know where you can go. Use your city as the tool of your fun. Have about 2 or 3 great leads pre-planned in your head.
Now as for your behaviour on your day2. You cant pre-sculpt your conversation on your DAY2, so you have to act yourself.... just your best self. The same principles of PU apply to Day2's. Such as; being alpha, show genuine interest, Kino, dhv, not being needy in general, create sexual tension (via flirting and barriers), rapport building and general escalation. Remember SOI's+Barriers create passion. Rain gave me some great advice on the matter "Day2's or "dates" are really about having fun with her. It's a chance to demonstrate to her what time shared with you will be like. Whatever emotions she experiences on a date, she'll expect to experience in the future. Best to make sure she feels good And one more thing... make sure your having fun’, he goes on to explain that making sure the Target has a good time is dynamite.
Right the next issue is payment. Who pays for the day2?. Unfortunately i have come to no conclusions about payment. My dad insists a gentleman always pays. Whilst the general consensus amongst the PUA community is to make the girl pay. I don’t advise either really. On my day2's I’ll pay for something then i will tease her and make her pay for something for me. You cant pay for the whole day2 because you will appear to have brought her company and it will come off as needy. Then again you cant expect her to pay for the whole thing because you will come off as a skin flint. The best policy is go Dutch. But it just comes down to common sense really.... if your buying 2 ice creams for 2$ then dont ask for 1$. Don’t make payment awkward, don’t bicker like to old ladies about who's paying for what. And for God's sake do not whack out the ole calculator and divide the bill equally. Just go with the flow is my suggestion. Remember Day2's, like PU is an art and not a general rule.... there are only principles.
Now after your fun filled day2 you want to think about making the F-close or at least the K-close. Actually you should of made a K-close by now (along with heavy Kino etc) making the k-close early on will make the f-close easier later on, anyways. Just think about logistics and what not. I wont patronize the PUA community and tell you all how to close. There are far better PUA's who can teach you about the F-close. Read up on that if you have to (ie, LMR and ASD). But you have to at least go for the K-close, at least. Remember what Gunwitch says; 'make the Ho say No'.
So there you have it, thats all the aspects of the Day2 i can help you with. We have covered what a good day2 is, Basing (and reasons for), Creating a memory, Creating passion and attraction, leads, logistics, behaviour and conversation, payment and closing.
Btw if there is anything you don’t agree with or understand please say so. I'm interested in improving my knowledge of the subject. Lets just remember stay on the subject matter and not make this personal (about me). I know that some KJ's enjoy flaming but please not on my thread. Lets not make this about me..... lets stay on topic.
Anyway here is where i shall leave you. Hopefully wiser than where we started.
All the best
Rusty
DISCLAIMER; I am not a super savvy PUA I am a mere aPUA. The advice below is not fact and is all subject to opinion and experience. The advice is originated from clipets of other posts, my experience's and snippets from dating advice on the internet (which sucks, askmen should hold their head in shame). One thing I can say is I have never not closed on a Day2, even on my first date at 12 I K-closed at the cinema and this Saturday on my next day2 (there were day2's in between) I will more than likely close again. Happy reading.
I have searched the internet and found no satisfactory posts on the matter. So this post will cover the following topics; What is a good day2, Basing (a brand new technique), establishing the ideal emotions on a day2, creating a memory, leads, examples of Day2's, logistics, behaviour, payment and closing...in short this is my definitive guide to Day2's.
So what is the perfect day2... or date to are less clued up friends. How can you convey your exiting and fun personality that will enable you to go into the latter stages of seduction. How can you make a memorable day2? One general rule is; there is no perfect Day2. Each girl is different and you should tailor your day2 to her passions. This also applies to Holidays, there is no perfect holiday. But how many of you would reject a holiday to the Caribbean?. There are day2's that 99% of young women will enjoy.
The reasons your Quarry is on the day2. One aspect I must stress is not appearing to put too much effort into the day2, it has to appear casual and natural. So no tickets to see Kanye West day2's. I remember reading that Olympic skaters practice year upon year on their routines, just so they can appear natural. Knowledge and experience will create the illusion or reality that its natural, it needs to appear natural. The reason for this is so that it appears little effort is being made. And the reason we want the Day2 to appear low effort is because we dont want to appear to be making to much effort at the start, it will look like your trying to hard which is a DLV. And there are other reasons you want it to appear casual. I've had friends get day2's because they offer the HB something amazing, like Rock concerts and trips to London. This is very bad, as the HB's are only going for the experience of the rock show, as appose to the guy.... which is bad and wrong. Dont lure the quarry in with gifts and fancy dinners because they will use it. The reason the HB is going on the Day2 with you is because of you.... if its any other reason then don’t bother. So basically make the day2 casual. Or at least appear casual, do not lure them in with some fancy dinner.
I'm now going to introduce you all to something new, Basing. Its a very simple concept that I created. A base is the beginning of the Day2, where you meet is your base place. Your base has to be casual for reasons I explained above (so your not luring them in). You have to base the day2. Your base has to be something normal and casual like getting a coffee, going for a walk or shopping. It can be anything. She will come if you generated enough attraction.
Make it an experience. Sounds contradictory to what I’ve been saying. You make it an experience, YOU make it an experience.... don’t let the day2 be the main experience, your the experience. Make it fun and memorable. Once you know you have attraction in the bag then you can create rapport by sharing an amazing few hours together. Make a memory. Attraction and emotions increase when there is excitement, the emotion the Quarry has towards you will multiply 10 fold if you do something exiting. It has been scientifically proven that emotional and sexual arousal are strongly linked together. The emotion you want to evoke on your day2 is passion; hope+doubt= passion (SOI's+Barriers or DQ's create sex). Arouse her passion via Spontaneous and impulse behaviour. The stimuli will create an emotional escalation, which in turn will create a physical arousal. But how can i create this emotional stimuli you cry, well a good way to appear spontaneous is either by being spontaneous or have pre-planned leads (which you don’t mention to the quarry).
Having a lead. Your original day2 should be casual. Like i said earlier this is because you want her coming for you and nothing but you. Once she meets yourself you can then lead it (time bridge). Make the lead a surprise. But only use the lead when the time is right, ie when you feel a good vibe or else it seems forced. The lead has to appear spontaneous.... thus showing the HB you are indeed spontaneous (inevitable DHV). The lead can often make the experience. Increase emotions by being wild. Jumping from one place to another is a great way to create the feeling that the two of you have been together forever. Thus creating an emotion of comfort... this mixed with the excitement of the day will generate passion.
So now your thinking this is all good and well but we want examples. Well...
Here are a few examples of good day2's
Casual coffee... lead on to dessert tasting... back to yours... close
A walk in a big park... lead on to ice cream, a game of Frisbee... k-close
Go dancing... lead on to drinks in a bar.... back to yours (blast LMR).... close
Meet for a drink... (surprise lead) to some stand up comedy
Fun Fair/Theme Park... Blow Job on the Ferris wheel
Casual drink... lead her to the Zoo.... bestiality (only joking)
Meet in the mall... lead on to ice skating... Kino... k-close
Local Pub Quiz... lead on to clubbing... make use of cubicles
Not exactly Rocket science, huh. It doesn’t have to be.
Each city has unique elements that you can use as tools for your day2. Use your surroundings to create fun filled day2's. As those crazy freestyle jumpers (park awe?) say 'the world is your playground'. Its simple Logistics, know where you can go. Use your city as the tool of your fun. Have about 2 or 3 great leads pre-planned in your head.
Now as for your behaviour on your day2. You cant pre-sculpt your conversation on your DAY2, so you have to act yourself.... just your best self. The same principles of PU apply to Day2's. Such as; being alpha, show genuine interest, Kino, dhv, not being needy in general, create sexual tension (via flirting and barriers), rapport building and general escalation. Remember SOI's+Barriers create passion. Rain gave me some great advice on the matter "Day2's or "dates" are really about having fun with her. It's a chance to demonstrate to her what time shared with you will be like. Whatever emotions she experiences on a date, she'll expect to experience in the future. Best to make sure she feels good And one more thing... make sure your having fun’, he goes on to explain that making sure the Target has a good time is dynamite.
Right the next issue is payment. Who pays for the day2?. Unfortunately i have come to no conclusions about payment. My dad insists a gentleman always pays. Whilst the general consensus amongst the PUA community is to make the girl pay. I don’t advise either really. On my day2's I’ll pay for something then i will tease her and make her pay for something for me. You cant pay for the whole day2 because you will appear to have brought her company and it will come off as needy. Then again you cant expect her to pay for the whole thing because you will come off as a skin flint. The best policy is go Dutch. But it just comes down to common sense really.... if your buying 2 ice creams for 2$ then dont ask for 1$. Don’t make payment awkward, don’t bicker like to old ladies about who's paying for what. And for God's sake do not whack out the ole calculator and divide the bill equally. Just go with the flow is my suggestion. Remember Day2's, like PU is an art and not a general rule.... there are only principles.
Now after your fun filled day2 you want to think about making the F-close or at least the K-close. Actually you should of made a K-close by now (along with heavy Kino etc) making the k-close early on will make the f-close easier later on, anyways. Just think about logistics and what not. I wont patronize the PUA community and tell you all how to close. There are far better PUA's who can teach you about the F-close. Read up on that if you have to (ie, LMR and ASD). But you have to at least go for the K-close, at least. Remember what Gunwitch says; 'make the Ho say No'.
So there you have it, thats all the aspects of the Day2 i can help you with. We have covered what a good day2 is, Basing (and reasons for), Creating a memory, Creating passion and attraction, leads, logistics, behaviour and conversation, payment and closing.
Btw if there is anything you don’t agree with or understand please say so. I'm interested in improving my knowledge of the subject. Lets just remember stay on the subject matter and not make this personal (about me). I know that some KJ's enjoy flaming but please not on my thread. Lets not make this about me..... lets stay on topic.
Anyway here is where i shall leave you. Hopefully wiser than where we started.
All the best
Rusty