Sticking Point ***First Post***

[Cyborg]

Aight, so I've been seeing this girl for the past few days and I we hang out a lot and I bring her back to my place but nothing happens but a bunch of talking (mostly playful banter) and off and on cuddling. Going by the M3 Model, I'd say I'm somewhere around A3 - C2 with her. I'm wondering how I can move to C3 and get to the kiss. We've spent about 3 or 4 hours total together, if that helps any.

[Sperkzy]

Get her alone, build up keno. And go for it. If she feels you then you should be good.

[Ambisire]

Not enough detail. Include more on what you're doing and saying and the responses you're getting. A3 to C2 is a pretty big gap.

[Cyborg]

Last night she came over and lied in my bed with me, and we were just vibing and talking about life. I don't know Mystery's material very well yet, but I asked her some screening type questions, i.e. "what do you want to do when you graduate?" and "what is your favorite color, and why?" etc etc and she answered and responded to all of them. The whole time we were talking though she was laying in my arms, but I never saw any windows where a kiss wouldn't be awkward. I'm thinking I should try to slow the pace of the conversation and then simply just use the "Would you like to kiss me?" technique. Any other ideas?

[Express2]

There is NEVER going to be that moment that just seems right. You have to just go for it and make that moment.

[husky]

yea go for it man , if she say no , go "i didnt said you can ,its just look like you want it "
if it fail you can always try to kiss her again
but just kissing , then release her , dont go too far into S1 untill you accumulate enough 7 hours and a lot of comfort
avoid going into the friend zone

[Shreddd]

Have you tried the evolution phase shift? Or at least parts of it?

Here's one way to start the kissing cycle - because depending on the girl, it may have to be built up. Have her peck you on the cheek for a given reason. As you are about to leave, say "Kiss goodbye." and point to your cheek. I've never had a girl refuse a kiss goodbye. I took this a step further and said, "My turn." as I took her head and pecked her on the forehead. "I like kisses there better."

Have you even talked about sensual stuff? If all you do is fluff and qualify...fcuck...that ain't going to get you anywhere unless you advance. A good transition from A3 into C3 is "You seem like an adventurous person. Am I right? What's the craziest thing you've ever done?" That's a small hoop. Fluff for a bit. Then ask, "Where's the nuttiest place you've had sex, oh adventurous one?" She should laugh out of tension, and then you can respond with a challenge for her to qualify, "Hey, if you think I can't handle it, don't tell me." That way she'll get satisfaction if you can't respond and satisfaction of your validation if you like it - aka, positive selective suggestion. Sex stories...if told right...are amazing at building sexual rapport. Just like normal story telling, you'll have to create tension loops.

"It was on a tractor!? That's nuts! I got walked in one time by my room mate. And rather than just leaving...he like put the blinds on and ran through, grabbed something and fooled around trying to get something out of the drawer. Then he bolted out and slammed the door. He's one of them no-sex Christians. I'm glad you have a little sex in ya, I was starting to think you were celibate."

I know I am bringing up old school Eliciting Values, but you should find out the feelings she wants before your Squirtle surf attacks. Or use creative suggestion such as in the Natural Woman Pattern to get her to choose her feelings and apply them to you without even telling you. Or you can be like Mystery and have the setting and the music kind of bring things to life...play on her romantic side. By showing her how romantic and sexy you can be, she'll want a piece of it. There are so many ways of displaying that...it's ridiculous. Most of it will be subtle signals...BL, tone, facial expressions, eye contact (triangular gazing), etc. The point is in seduction you can... Create the void that you fill. And more importantly, find out where the voids are already...that's the easy route - to EV and connect through storytelling.