Books books books

[Satan]

What stuff are you reading, what's good? I'm at an intermediate level, what do YOU reccomend?

Props to Dynamic, and whoever posts,

S*

[Limelight]

What stuff are you reading, what's good? I'm at an intermediate level, what do YOU reccomend?

Props to Dynamic, and whoever posts,

S*

Of course the Venusian Arts Handbook.

But right now I'm reading Bakers Sperm Wars-a really great book.

Jugglers Ebook is just great when it comes to natural conversation skills.

Carlos Xumas The Secrets Of The Alpha Man is gold when it comes to inner game.

And I'd recommend Bandlers refraiming for NLP knowledge

[RobLaughter]

There's no substitute for field experience. I feel that once you've hit an intermediate level of game, you don't really need books unless you just want to read for shits and giggles.

In that case, it's good to look for things that will fine-tune your game--correcting the subtleties in your body language for instance. Some things that have helped me recently are:

1.) PU101's Physical Confidence program. Sure, PU101 is starting to turn into DYD with its neverending supply of neverending DVD sets, but this one actually had some useful info once I got to DVD 6 of 8. If you're going to watch this one, I'd borrow it from someone who has purchased it rather than buy the whole thing yourself.

2.) RSD Foundations Superconference. Again, another unnecessarily long DVD series, but there are some gems in there to fine-tune your game.

I'm a visual kind of "instant gratification" guy... I need to see the material I'm interested in, not read it. Maybe I'm ADD, maybe I'm just too busy multitasking. Who knows...

[Johnny.Vegas]

Check out the Reading Material thread:

http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141

[Satan]

Thanks for the link Johhny. I think this thread is different as it applys to my level of skill. I think products like juggler, David D, Xuma are for people who are just starting out.

I'm trying to get into Swinggcats stuff at the mo. Last time I tried to do it, it wrecked my game, I got rejected all night, I wasn't ready for it, uncalibrated.

S*

[Greystoke]

If you are getting rejected, and still uncalibrated, you are still a newbie.

Juggler, David D, Xuma are for people who want to get good. There is no such thing as advanced or intermediate. You get it or you don't. Internalise each method until you know the basics very very well.

[Satan]

Last time I tried it was a year ago, in a booming club, stopping moving targets, I've improved a bit since then. I agree about getting the basics down really well, good tip. I class swinggcat int level as it's more complex.

I may just take your advise and keep it simple, cheers,

S*

[Dantes]

Your level of skill? That is all perception. What level you see yourself at some one else might think you are below or another person might see you above the level you see yourself.

Try not be concerned about your level so much, maybe look at the content of the knowledge. Take what you want from what you read, watch, or listen to and apply it to your "Game".

I read Cosmo from time to time when I am in the book store and I always find a little piece of knowledge to use. Plus you can use it in set and it is a huge DHV because every worthy HB reads Cosmo. They love it when you say you read Cosmo.

All of this stuff (The Game) is not just about picking up HB's it is also about building an attractive character. With out character you have no HB's. You can spit and do all the canned routines you want for 7 hours. After that what are you going to have? HB's will see that and be out of your life as fast as they came in.

Some stuff you are not going to be ready to read. I have bought books/ebooks and let them sit for months because I was just not ready for the knowledge.

I always find myself coming back to what I have read over and over again. So the stuff is not just a one time read. Juggler even says that about his ebook.

So read everything you can get your hands on.

A few the things I have read/watched are:

1) Both Juggler ebooks

2) The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

3) The MM ebook

4) Thundercat's ebook

5) I have watched the MM DVD's numerous times.

6) All kinds of David D. stuff also watched his Deep Inner Game series that stuff is really incredible I highly recommend that one.

7) Introducing NLP, NLP Workbook by Joseph O'connor and John Seymour

8) Silent Power and Weight Loss for the Mind by Stuart Wilde.

I can go on but there is no need. By looking at what I have read you can see what I have been trying to work on the most.

You have to ask yourself where is your game lacking and find the knowledge that is going to build those areas.

Anything written by a Prominant PUA is going to be a must read. After that it is up to you on what kind of character you are going to mold for yourself.

[SinductiveX]

For my own part, my list is pretty short, it would include: The Venusian Arts handbook, mystery's DVD series (everything that I study is based upon that foundation), Robert Greene's The art of seduction, the 48 laws of power, The Annihilation method by Style, and Swingcat's real word seduction, and swing cats audio series.

Sincerley,

SinductiveX

[Charisma]

I'm reading my wings novel Aardvark.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aardvark-Phil-Klein/dp/1905529929/sr=8-1/qid=1170043177/ref=pd_ka_1/203-4151506-6580740?ie=UTF8&s=books

[Dynamic]

I've listed three books below that were not mentioned in the above thread. All of them are highly reccommended.


The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature
Matt Ridley
The Selfish Gene
Richard Dawkins
The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating
David M. Buss

The New Model, when it is released will be fantastic... as well as The Blueprint.

But since those books have yet to be submitted for public viewing, the above should keep you busy.

[singhx]

What stuff are you reading, what's good? I'm at an intermediate level, what do YOU reccomend?

Props to Dynamic, and whoever posts,

S*
try these books.....


Mainstream
The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick-up Artists by Neil Strauss
The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene
The Lay Guide by Tony Clink
Evolution and Survival
Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex by Robin Baker
The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature by Matt Ridley,
The Mating Mind : How Sexual Choice Shaped the Evolution of Human Nature by Geoffrey Miller
The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins
Seduction eBooks
David DeAngelo - Double Your Dating
Mystery - The Venusian Arts Handbook
Juggler - How To Be A Pickup Artist
Ross Jeffries - Secrets Of Speed Seduction
Mike Pilinski - Without Embarrassment
Swingcat - Real World Seduction
J. D. Fuentes - Sexual Key
Fear/Social Anxiety
Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway by Susan Jeffers
Painfully Shy: How to Overcome Social Anxiety and Reclaim Your Life by Barbara & Gregory Markway
NLP
Basics
Introducing NLP Neuro-Linguistic Programming by Joseph O'Connor & John Seymour
NLP: The New Technology of Achievement ed. Steve Andreas & Charles Faulkner.
Advanced
Frogs Into Princes by Bandler & Grinder
Trance-formations by Bandler & Grinder
etc
Therapy
My Voice Will Go With You: The Teaching Tales of Milton Erickson by Sidney Rosen
Phoenix: Therapeutic Patterns of Milton H. Erickson by David Gordon
Provocative Therapy by Frank Farrelly
Reframing/Frame Control
Mind-lines: Lines For Changing Minds by Michael Hall
Sleight Of Mouth by Robert Dilts
Acquiring New Skills
Mastery by George Leonard
Comedy
Comedy Writing Secrets by Melvin Helitzer
Voice
Voice and the Actor by Cicely Berry
Voice and Speech in the Theatre by Clifford Turner
Conversation Skills
How to Talk to Anyone by Leil Lowndes
On Being a Man
The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida
On Being a Woman
My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday
Sex Technique
Secrets of Sensual Lovemaking by Tom Leonardi
The Multi-Orgasmic Man by Mantak Chia
Negotiation/Persuasion/Influence
Influence by Robert Cialdini
How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie
How to Argue and Win Every Time by Gerry Spence
Get Anyone to Do Anything by David Lieberman
48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene
Self Improvement/Success
Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill
The Psychology of Achievement (Audio CD) by Brian Tracey
Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins
Psycho-cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz
Rich Dad/Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
Eat That Frog by Brian Tracy
Web Resources
http://www.thelss.com/
http://www.bristollair.com/
http://www.fastseduction.com
http://www.cliffslist.com/

Undercover Sex Signals"
by Leil Lowndes
The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller
The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene
The Success Principles, by Jack Canfield
Carlos Xumas The Secrets Of The Alpha Man

singhx aka mataphor

[relics]

Harry Potter-Prisoner of Azkhaban and others...
John Grisham- The Broker
Rainbow 6- Tom Clancy
The old man and the sea-Ernest Hemmingway
The Old Testament (good for a laugh)