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dustinash
06-28-2011, 01:29 AM
Now lets be realistic. Although Mystery pioneered the Venusian Arts as a geurilla method which is conducted out, primarily in clubs on strangers for many many many people they meet their mate on the job.

Certain jobs (which mystery points out in the MM) lead to more access and prestige with women. Note the distinction here. Both ingredients are essential. One can have prestige with women and still be locked in a virtual fucken prison. Look at Style, how many years of his life was he bottled up with his sophistication and .. style.. always the friend, rarely the lover. His job gave him prestige but he did not (I am guessing here) have as much ready access to women WHILE WORKING. And if you have both.. you dont need HALF the skills PUAs cultivate. You working deomnstrates higher value, getting used to her and not taking her shit because you do it every day, negs her in a primative, powerful way. Jokes flow, etc

To some PUAs working is KEY. Why? Its hot. It demonstrates all the things we practice in the club but in a long drawn out way where comfort is built naturally and even with new workers it is socially conveyed. It flicks attraction switches, not only when you have a position of power either. When I was a gas jockey out in minus 30 pumping I got hit on almost as much as being a DJ, when I was working inside the store in a different gas station I didnt get hit on at all. What was the difference? one is a demonstration of fitness. In fact I actually SUCK at picking up chicks in bars. I dont know what to say to them, I rarely have the initiative to cajole them completely on the spot and I AM WAY to impatient to build up to the hot ones by working the crowd (Which is an almost essential element to getting the most out of a club). ya da ya da, im just not that good because I needed exposure to women.. and my work game has improved my going out game.


Prestigous work is hot and prestige can come not just by getting high monetary rewards or being an authority, it can come from independence and strength as well as demonstration of some skill (ANY skill) that gets the job (WHATEVER job) done efficiently. Most things you do while working are attractive to women.

That said obviously some jobs have way more prestige and hit on many levels or are more intrinsinctly attractive to females. Prime jobs that both give high prestige and access to women and on some way really hit female attraction switches hard.

I would like your oppinions on what these jobs are and why they are ballin for PUAs.

I will list the two I am familiar with:


Photographer:

As a photographer I can make people, anybody almost happy and impressed. It commands respect under party situations, formal, etc. It has a practical use, is part of commerce and establishes the person as an artist who is actually succeeding in surivival through art. (It is another discussion but succesful artists of any kind are generally considered attractive).

And you can make her look pretty. If shes hot she becomes a super model. If shes not, she still becomes a super model. You can decorate her world and your house with your creation and each one is an emotional experience for her. If you like models you are like a ace in the hole, a guy who can help her refine and explore her work. You'll get access to models. Models will get turned on listening to you telling them what to do, carressing them and punishing them with your words as you guide them to beauty.

Photography is actually a very sexual art. Though it can also be familial.

In anycase it is a good job for a PUA, a job of esthetics, prestige and generally bearing access to people. Keep in mind this applies far more to photographers with people as their subject matter rather then wildlife, or landscape, etc. simply because the former have more access to their pursuits, the women.

Also a REAL photographer can carry his camera as a prop. His camera not only gives him prestige with strangers it makes them engage him and try and draw his attention, he is an alpha. Then when the target draws his attention and he snaps her picture and shows her she actually looks beautiful.

This is why you must actually be a photographer. The moment she sees the result of the photo she will make a decision about you. Did you make her look beautiful. If the answer is no she will be repelled, and literally I have seen women RUN when i did this. Now you could still game her but as a pro when she sees how you made her look sexy and she wants the photo and shes now asking for your phone number email, facebook whatever.. well it pans out. When I go out i take a real camera and set for business. It also acts as a conversation piece and makes you stand out from the crowd. This means a DSLR, flash, knowing how the frig it works. A hack could get away with just using this combo on auto and still get some good hits by chance but will not have the value being an actual pro at what you do and demonstrating it right there.

I have literally been gamed by 6 sets of women. They would LOVE to have you as part of their party.

DJ:

As a DJ you are guiding her on an emotional journey. Shes moving to a beat on the dance floor and you are changing her rythyms and she is changing her moves to match yours. On a symbolic level people dance like they make love. So in some way you are literally fucking her on the dance floor. Just a little and in a way that is all her, its all her imagination, you arent actually touching her. Shes just moving to ya.

This experience is so viceral and intense for women they seek out certain rhthyms to experience with you, songs, they all want songs. But other women want it too because as a DJ you are cassanova taking them all higher. So there is a line up to your booth. The one who has been let part way in and has this HUGE smile because she is the special one that got in, is still being made to wait after you didnt say a word to her other then "Wait!" then looked forward, furrowed your brow and did something she has NO clue what but she feels it and she sees it in you as you move while conducting the heart beat of the experience. There is excited, sexualized women lining up to interact with you and this knocks every one of them head over heals.

Djing is PUA on speed with barely any work, but its gotta be public and the bigger you can go the better, like a rock star (Another PUA job). It has significant advantages over the rock star however, one, even when your small time your getting paid. Two, it is a complex art that seems more complex to the observer then playing a guitar (generally), so it illustrates skill and intelligence. It is a solo job, the DJ is so "unique" that he is the only one that controls it all. The rock stars "banding" attribute is actually not as attractive because it resembles what primates do when they are sub-adult males. They pack. The DJ sparks instinctual circuits more related to a prime adult who has a established niche and maintains it. Rock stars, when they are succesful or at least getting demonstrations of "crazy" fan behavior will start to surpass the DJ in attractivness. The demonstration to the girl of being there just for them and watching othe people act out the emotions she feels is VERY powerful. I won't get into the psychology of it but id say a mid popular band will probably pull girls harder.. maybe.

The DJ as well sparks the artist switch, though perhaps less strongly then the rock star. At its peak though the two are indistinguishable. At lower levels they both pull hard but at least you get paid as a DJ and you dont have to divide it between 4+ people and buy 4+ people gear for doing the same job.

This allows you to advance faster and actually do it alot because it pays better then most peoples day jobs, hour for hour. You get invited to the partys, if your smart your pad can be the occasional after hours party (make sure you have a GOOD stereo and set list so you dont have to pull out your decks at home after the gig unless you really want to. Leaving decks unattended is ASKING for drunk asses to try and play with them, fuck up the music, spill drinks, whatever. you can feasibly deal with this by getting insurance on your gear (its cheap) but... Id rather my gear be back in its coffin, safe, protected waiting for its one master to put it to use. DJ gear, like a photographers camera, a samurai's sword is a personal commitment. It must be maintained, protected, cared for and ONLY, if ever, used by others under certain circumstances.

Anyways, enough blah blah blah, DJs pull too.

Got any others?

Digits
06-28-2011, 04:31 AM
Surely anything that has you regularly interacting with women. So even something like being a waiter, a ticketing person(definitely the official job title) or anything where you can have a one on one conversation with a women, drop a banter line and build an instant connection.

Along with DJ, being a club promoter can really rain in the chicks, a couple of my promoter and host friends always have girls following them around as they try and get into VIP etc.

But why would you want a job that does that? Surely then being a PUA is taking over your whole life and you're losing sight of what its really about?

Black_Jack
07-02-2011, 02:00 AM
What do you do if you aren't a DJ or a Photographer, or an Artist, or a Magician? Sure maybe you do some of these as hobbies, but what if their not your full time jobs. Of all of the material I've read, seen and listened to so far - no one had a non glamorous job.

So let's say I am a student in psychology today, and without a job for the moment. A lot of you would probably say: 1. get a job that you find interesting 2. learn how to talk about your job in an interesting manner. However, this might work okay with psych. since you can do interesting social shit with it. But if you're are an engineer, or a theoretical physicist, or any other job that you might be truly passionate about but isn't sexual, glamorous or overly interesting to others?

Talking that some jobs are glamorous and get you better chances at being a successful PUA is good and all that. But in the end we also have realities and truer passions we don't wan't to give up in order to have that Hollywood lifestyle. I thought that embracing the art of seduction meant being true to yourself and building confidence trough that - not changing your desires only to get hotter chicks.

Epicure
07-02-2011, 09:05 AM
If you are a DJ and are not good at talking to girls in clubs, I recommend practicing talking o girls in clubs. Learn a couple of openers and work on developing that weakness inti an accomplishment.

The best job for pickup is not the DJ but the Club Owner.
The best job for pick up is not the photographer but the owner of the magazine.
Being a medical doctor or a successful lawyer or businessman is better for pick up than being the club promoter.

Women want resources. Women are everywhere. The way to get the, is by developing your pick up skills of talking and telling stories. A DJ who is shy won't get laid. A Club Promoter who turns women into friends or is too shy to develop his story telling skills will have girls who want his attention but only for him to introduce the, to other guys who do have game.


You said you can't talk to women or start a conversation with them in a club. I suggest that might be a place to start.


;)

Epicure

tamashi
09-08-2011, 11:28 PM
mmm i prefer doing what i like and trying to be the best, but is for training i think jobs when you have to interact with many people , like sells or in a club

jadler
11-07-2011, 07:31 AM
I work at a Taco Shop and I still manage to pull. The job isn't what's important. The important part is that you have time to sarge properly. Your confusing time and persona.

LuckyD
01-03-2012, 10:49 AM
Coming from a club background myself, if you do get involve in that environment you only have limited access to the girls that go to the nights you either organise or play at.

As a dj you have to put so much time and effort looking for the tunes to add to your playlist for next time and practice really hard to have your music set perfect, as you are "the observed"

Which is good because it is an automatic DHV as long as your performance runs smoothly other ways you can risk to DLV yourself

But just because you will get attention though this it does not mean you will get your target if you don't know how to aproach. DJing is basically a big buying temperature routine.

You still won't have access to the 10's you may see on the streets, bars, shops etc. if you haven't got the pua skill set locked down.

The amount of time and effort that is put in to music collection you can just learn the theory of game and whilst the djing is playing you can target the 10 that's in front of him and close her whilst he still having to play the music

puaswagger
01-03-2012, 11:13 PM
boys being a waiter is the best PUA job. I always got so much pussy as a waiter. I got great social skils, got paid in cash, and had plenty of time to game. take if from me. SWAGGER HAS SPOKEN