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Hawt
01-27-2007, 10:37 PM
I posted this on my Lair and got some pretty good reactions so I figured I would post it here since I think this stuff really affects us younger guys, especially in high school and college.

Being in college this is something I run into A LOT. Most of this stuff you have probably read before, or seems like common sense. This is pretty much a big compilation of stuff from others and stuff that I have come up with that has worked for me in the field.

Let me preface with this. Obviously you never want to bring the boyfriend up. Most of the situations I deal with are when the boyfriend is NOT there, so that's what these are geared to dealing with. Also, if she brings up the boyfriend, 99% of the time it is because you displayed too much interest or fucked something up.

Now, let's get into a couple of different scenarios you could run into here.

I have a couple of things I do here...

If it just came up in conversation randomly

Then I'll usually go with something like, "Whoa, I don't want to hear about your problems, I just met you geez!" Then I do a thread change and just move off it.

You have to be careful with this because it is easy to come off as a dick. It has to be said extremely playfully.

If I asked her for her phone number

Then I go with "Uh okay?" and give her a weird look, like "why are you telling me this?". Sometimes I leave it at that and it's cool and they give me their number, but if they are still hesitant then I follow it up with, "That's cool though, you have one of those really overprotective boyfriends that don't let you have any guy friends, I know a couple of girls with guys like that."

Usually after that they are like "No, no, no here!" and you get it. Then of course thread change and move off it.

If I asked her to go somewhere with me

Say I asked her to bounce somewhere or I am trying to set up a day 2 and I get this. Then I will say something "Okay cool so you'll have someone to keep you entertained when you aren't with me then." and then you just thread change and keep talking/building comfort and try again. As long as she isn't trying to leave you are still good to go.

Her boyfriend calls/texts while I am talking with her

I run into this one ALL OF THE TIME. When it happens I'll usually just ignore it. If she blows me off to talk to her boyfriend on the phone I turn and talk to someone else. If it was a text and it only took a second I will just ignore it. Normally I never ask who it was, because this is only giving her an opportunity to say it was her boyfriend (she could be lying).

Sometimes though, for some reason girls feel the need to tell you, "Oh that was my boyfriend." Whether it really was or they are just shit testing you remains a mystery.

If they tell me then I will come back with something like "Oh that's so cute, he calls to check up on while your out. That's so needy and adorable. Man I remember when I first moved out on my own my big sister/mom/whoever used to call me all the time when I was out, it's like she/they/he didn't trust me."

This accomplishes a couple of things. I throw in the word needy but I don't focus on it so it sort of hits her and lingers in the back of her mind. Then I say how whoever, seemed like they didn't trust me. Notice how I didn't directly say that her boyfriend didn't trust her, but that it seemed like my sister or whoever didn't trust me.

Thread change and move on. Do you see a common theme here? Just move the fuck on, don't focus on it and try to find out more about him, or be an AFC chode who is like "omg i bet he treats you like shit."

If I tried to kiss her
If I try to kiss her and she brings it up, I take a step back to give her some more space, say "Man the other night, so and so"l, and thread change to a joke or something funny, or a cool story. Tyler talks about this on Foundations.

When you're out in clubs you'll see like alpha male guys try to go for the kiss all the time and the girls will pull back or whatever. But notice that the girls may pull back from the kiss, but they DON'T LEAVE. Then the guy will talk about something, usually something funny to pump their BT and then go for it again. If the girl pulls back again it's rinse and repeat. As long as she is staying there she IS attracted to you, the logistics just might not be right on her end.

So yeah, the same thing applies here. If you go to kiss her and she mentions the boyfriend, just ignore it. Like it is just so far out of your reality you don't even acknowledge her saying it.

This is the stuff that has worked for me. Feel free to post your own opinions or techniques as well.

Hope this helps,

TheCoolerKing
01-28-2007, 01:28 PM
Wow thanks for this.

I just met a cute girl from Boliva with a boyfriend that goes to the ivy school near mine.
Do you think it would be a good idea to make fun of that school that he goes to?

I was about to give up on her.

Enimos
01-28-2007, 02:12 PM
This is gold man. http://static.nexopia.com/smilies/clap.gif

Yoda
01-29-2007, 08:45 AM
Yea, this will definantly come in handy.

Evangelo
02-19-2007, 03:38 PM
If I tried to kiss her
If I try to kiss her and she brings it up, I take a step back to give her some more space, say "Man the other night, so and so"l, and thread change to a joke or something funny, or a cool story. Tyler talks about this on Foundations.

When you're out in clubs you'll see like alpha male guys try to go for the kiss all the time and the girls will pull back or whatever. But notice that the girls may pull back from the kiss, but they DON'T LEAVE. Then the guy will talk about something, usually something funny to pump their BT and then go for it again. If the girl pulls back again it's rinse and repeat. As long as she is staying there she IS attracted to you, the logistics just might not be right on her end.


I have field tested all the other plans, and they all work wonderfully. I also noticed that talking about past relationships or current ones as a DHV works well. Don't let her talk about her current, cut the thread. Kino works wonders, and role playing keeps me in the frame.

I'll field test this one tomorrow.

Best,
Evangelo

Heartwork
02-19-2007, 09:44 PM
HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: Good, he can serve us breakfeast in bed tommorow.

Money line

xen0s
03-14-2007, 11:11 PM
Her boyfriend calls/texts while I am talking with her

I run into this one ALL OF THE TIME. When it happens I'll usually just ignore it. If she blows me off to talk to her boyfriend on the phone I turn and talk to someone else. If it was a text and it only took a second I will just ignore it. Normally I never ask who it was, because this is only giving her an opportunity to say it was her boyfriend (she could be lying).

Sometimes though, for some reason girls feel the need to tell you, "Oh that was my boyfriend." Whether it really was or they are just shit testing you remains a mystery.

If they tell me then I will come back with something like "Oh that's so cute, he calls to check up on while your out. That's so needy and adorable. Man I remember when I first moved out on my own my big sister/mom/whoever used to call me all the time when I was out, it's like she/they/he didn't trust me."

You know what this happens to me all the time when I'm out with a girl, she'll get a call or someone will text her and she'll break for a bit and go "Gimmie a sec" which never fails to get on my nerves each time. Understandable if it's their parents/siblings but when it's their friends or something then it just annoys me.

My friend busts them on that, he'll tell them "Hey can you do that later? You're out with me now." which I find very blunt and ballsy but apparently it works, but anyway I love that bit "Oh that's so cute, he calls to check up on while your out. That's so needy and adorable. Man I remember when I first moved out on my own my big sister/mom/whoever used to call me all the time when I was out, it's like she/they/he didn't trust me." I think I will remember to use it next time haha.

Kevarg
03-19-2007, 02:43 PM
There are many lines and things to say about boyfriend destroying and many of them should not be used unless you have shit do back it up and you know what you are doing.

However, for those who are not ready to take the risk of actually saying something about hte boyfriend... you can do some other things.

Of course ignore she said it and move on, change the topic.

Destroying a boyfriend can be hard it requires you to be at the best of your game.

First you need to make her feel she is having the time of her life, she has to love being around you. If you turn around to talk to someone else she has to feel she needs you, why are you ignoring her? this is what you want to acheive.

You lower her defenses, she stops thinking about her boyfriend, but she is thinking about why aren't you paying so much attention to her anymore. Of course for you to acheive this you need to have some tight game. Im sure most of you here know your shit,

I've tried this several times and it works, however it takes time... its fun though.

They do go crazy

Thor
03-20-2007, 05:50 AM
Good stuff. Bookmarked and printed.

CrimsonKing
03-20-2007, 08:15 AM
Excellent post Hawt. Definitely saving this post.

Simple
03-20-2007, 04:04 PM
I just met a cute girl from Boliva with a boyfriend that goes to the ivy school near mine.
Do you think it would be a good idea to make fun of that school that he goes to?
About that, i know it was like 2 months ago, but for the future...
its not really a good idea to bad mouth her bf etc. all that happens is she gets all defensive bout him, she'll rarely back your 'hahaha your bf is so crap'.... don't bring up her bf... if she does, then ignore it.. change subject thread.. the most you should say really, is 'thats cute'... then you can createe a parody around yourself, be ironic, saying what a bad bf ude b, that ude call her every 5 minutes, that you'd never let her out and b so jealous... Far from creating a negative image of you, it should get her to start questioning her bf.

Ryan45
04-02-2007, 08:13 AM
Check out the classic writings, bf destroyer by TD.

" I've read MrSEX4uNYC's
stuff on that, and its all you need. So if you're just trying to make yourself
sexually available to commited chicks who you sense want you anyway, this stuff
is hardly necessary. In that case, just do a ctrl-f search for "boyfriend" in
NYC's archive, and you're golden. For HBs in satisfying relationships (ie:
getting sexed well, getting emotional nurturing, guy is challenging yet fair)
that is your only option, as no amount of BFdestroying will do shit" ~TD.

Dont waste time.

Tori
04-12-2007, 09:30 PM
Ok, I really only read a little bit of the first posts but wouldn't it be easier if you just didn't hit on the girl if she somehow managed to bring up her boyfriend? B/c if she's willing to talk,flirt,whatever w/ you chances are if you do in fact start to date this girl, she'll do the same thing to you. So wouldn't it be a good thing to walk away?

And if my boyfriend texts me/calls me when I'm out and i'm talking to a guy (and I answer) I believe it's just nice to say "Oh, i'm sorry that was just my boyfriend, mom, sister, friend." Why would you want to make the girl feel bad? Maybe it's b/c girls and guys think way differently (I always have to know every little detail, while my boyfriend is just fine w/ the bare minimum), so I feel like telling whoever I'm talking w/ who called me, just so the curiosity won't kill them.

-Silver-
05-02-2007, 04:19 PM
Ok, I really only read a little bit of the first posts but wouldn't it be easier if you just didn't hit on the girl if she somehow managed to bring up her boyfriend? B/c if she's willing to talk,flirt,whatever w/ you chances are if you do in fact start to date this girl, she'll do the same thing to you. So wouldn't it be a good thing to walk away?

And if my boyfriend texts me/calls me when I'm out and i'm talking to a guy (and I answer) I believe it's just nice to say "Oh, i'm sorry that was just my boyfriend, mom, sister, friend." Why would you want to make the girl feel bad? Maybe it's b/c girls and guys think way differently (I always have to know every little detail, while my boyfriend is just fine w/ the bare minimum), so I feel like telling whoever I'm talking w/ who called me, just so the curiosity won't kill them.

Here's the basics: If a girl is 100% in love and happy with her boyfriend, then she WILL NOT leave him no matter what you do. 'Boyfriend destroying' despite the harsh name, is being able to zone in on a girl's insecurities about her relationship.

You make yourself appear attractive and more 'alpha' and enjoyable to be around than her bf, and blow-up any problems she has with her bf to make him seem like a bad boyfriend but WITHOUT making it obvious that you are putting him down. TD explains how to appear as though you are on the bf's side when you are doing this.

Bottom line is: This will only be possible if she is already having doubts about her relationship. If she's perfectly in love, then there's no way you will ever appear higher than her bf (who is not only on a golden pedestal in her mind, but way up on shining silver clouds, with a halo around his head)

So yes, if I was gaming you and discovered you were perfectly happy in your relationship, i would walk away and also wish you luck with him. Love is special, and the greatest emotion you can ever feel. If i tried taking that away from you or any other girl I would deserve to be thrown to the deepest circle of hell :P

-Silver-

Showcase
05-02-2007, 06:38 PM
Her boyfriend calls/texts while I am talking with her



I once had a day2 at my place where the girl kept repeatedly text messaging with whomever, and it gets really annoying really quick.

Spillz: (In a cocky funny way) I'm never watchign a movie with you ever again.

her: Why not?

Spillz: All you do is text! You aren't even watching the movie.

Her: Well all you have to do is take my phone away from me.(she actually told me to lol)

So I took her phone and threw it over on the other couch out of reach where it never bothered me the rest of the night.

Pussypilot
05-07-2007, 07:13 AM
HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: Good, he can serve us breakfeast in bed tommorow.

Money line

Yeah Mate i have a couple of anti-boyfriend lines ive used and sometimes quite sneakily gotten away with:
HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: want another one?
OR
HB: I have a boyfriend
PUA: Well usually i dont go for girls with boyfriends but i guess for you i could make an exeption

CarltonBanks
05-14-2007, 03:08 PM
Here's the basics: If a girl is 100% in love and happy with her boyfriend, then she WILL NOT leave him no matter what you do. 'Boyfriend destroying' despite the harsh name, is being able to zone in on a girl's insecurities about her relationship.

You make yourself appear attractive and more 'alpha' and enjoyable to be around than her bf, and blow-up any problems she has with her bf to make him seem like a bad boyfriend but WITHOUT making it obvious that you are putting him down. TD explains how to appear as though you are on the bf's side when you are doing this.

Bottom line is: This will only be possible if she is already having doubts about her relationship. If she's perfectly in love, then there's no way you will ever appear higher than her bf (who is not only on a golden pedestal in her mind, but way up on shining silver clouds, with a halo around his head)

So yes, if I was gaming you and discovered you were perfectly happy in your relationship, i would walk away and also wish you luck with him. Love is special, and the greatest emotion you can ever feel. If i tried taking that away from you or any other girl I would deserve to be thrown to the deepest circle of hell :P

-Silver-


I agree. "Boyfriend destroyer" is a misnomer...it's really just long-distance amogging.