NEVER call the girl game!

[pointman]

I was at a club last week and started dancing and talking to a hb9 and she put her number in my phone and I gave her my business card.
Anyways I did not call her for 3-4 days and she I get this text from her: "So I give you my number but you dont even use it" so i did call her that day and we talked for a while and made plan to go out that saturday...but then she cancelled on me last minute saying she will make it up to me!:mad:
I guess she had to go to her friends bday party...

How should I play this now?? I dont know what to do I am confused...

[Sebulba]

Fatal error!

You may have been gaming her well to begin with, but when she teased you with the text message you jumped right through her hoop by immediatly replying. It was a great line she used (one i'm gonna use myself!) but now shes playing you. I personally wouldn't have waited so long to text her in the first place. I find a very casual message a day or so after is fine, don't ask her any questions in the message, just be playful and say you hope she had a good evening, she will then convay her interest by replying to a questionless message.

As for what you should do now, message her soon saying something like "give me a call if you fancy meeting again" (that way you are telling her what to do, not pleading her to see you again) and just see if she gets back to you, if she doesn't reply again, no big deal. Sarge some more!

[Sperkzy]

Nice advice Sebula.

I dont want to hijack the thread but I have a similar case, and a question...

Highlight to see my question.
So is it to late if you already did that stuff? Its been around 2-3 weeks since I met the girl and this is how my phone contact went with her:

the day of meeting her:
text + "Now you have my number"
texts me back "How are you doing?"
text + "im alright and you?"
texts me back "Im going to work... im tired"
text + "ahw im sorry, soon you will be at your new job"

she doesnt respond . . .

four days later:
me texts + "Did you get the new job?"

she doesnt respond . . .

ten days later:
me calls/leaves a message + "lets hang out im in the area"

she doesnt answer or responds to my call. . .

Its now around 3 weeks since I met her. You think I should give it up? Or text her like a phrase like, "Hope your doing well."

[mik3b4321]

you could have called her earlier than 3-4 days.. it s the pua rule you know that. :) she could have met someone else, was waiting for your call & got disappointed, but, we dont know the real detail. for me, is just a thought. my best advice is, sarge some more. :)

[Ambisire]

^ Give up.

[Sperkzy]

you could have called her earlier than 3-4 days.. it s the pua rule you know that. :) she could have met someone else, was waiting for your call & got disappointed, but, we dont know the real detail. for me, is just a thought. my best advice is, sarge some more. :)

Ahw, thanks man. So I should have called her earlier.

Texting does not suffice?

And here is my full story if you are interested.
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3213

Shes in exotic dancer. he he.

[mik3b4321]

Nice advice Sebula.

I dont want to hijack the thread but I have a similar case, and a question...

Highlight to see my question.
So is it to late if you already did that stuff? Its been around 2-3 weeks since I met the girl and this is how my phone contact went with her:

the day of meeting her:
text + "Now you have my number"
texts me back "How are you doing?"
text + "im alright and you?"
texts me back "Im going to work... im tired"
text + "ahw im sorry, soon you will be at your new job"

she doesnt respond . . .

four days later:
me texts + "Did you get the new job?"

she doesnt respond . . .

ten days later:
me calls/leaves a message + "lets hang out im in the area"

she doesnt answer or responds to my call. . .

Its now around 3 weeks since I met her. You think I should give it up? Or text her like a phrase like, "Hope your doing well."

you can either sarge again, or give her some more time. but, for 3 weeks seems kinda long for me. i havent spoken wit my gf/exgf for almost 3 months now.. but, we havent called it a quit yet. so, im not kinda sure, if i should drop the mallet of justice. dont wanna messed things up. but, that doesnt mean im not sarging. just for fun & conversation. hope you get her to reply back.

[Sperkzy]

So you think I should just right now message her with a; "Hope your doing well" message?

I think it wouldnt hurt to try.

[Sperkzy]

DUDE! I did the advice of the "Dont ask a question text message" and it totally worked!! AHAH! Now I have no idea wtf to do!

I texted her, "Hope your doin well"

And she texted me back rather quickly, "I missed you!! What have you been up to!?"

LOL! Wtf do I say now!? I NEED ADVICE AHH HELP!

**added***
So, I texted her back. And I think I fucked it up! I said; "Nothing much. Just been traveling"

I felt like I should add something interesting to the sentence in order not to seem to boring and again didn't want to ask a question. But she hasnt replied. =|

[Sebulba]

Sperkzy,

Well that goes to show, if she is interested then you just need to tease her slightly and she will respond, if she doesn't respond then she isn't interested.

I think it's pretty fucking safe to say this girl IS into you right now.

Your response of "Nothing much. Just been traveling" wasn't so good. Although I really like the "I've been traveling" line, (makes you sound interesting!) you killied it by saying "Nothing much" (sounds boring!).

Like I said before, never ask questions unless you are REALLY getting on well, but you can still be responsive and playfull.

After she said "I missed you!! What have you been up to!?" you should have said something like "Aww hun, you missed me? I've had the craziest time traveling, I had such a great time!".

That way it makes it sound like you were having the time of your life while she was sitting around, missing you and waiting for you to message her.

It really sounds like she really might be interested in you so good luck with it dude, but like I say, if it doesn't work, doesn't matter. It's all good practise.

Let me know what happens!

Seb.

[pointman]

Seb man help me out this is my thread wtf...

what should I do now since she has blown me off for the 2nd time i GUESS it was my fault since i dont call her until the day before but hey im busy...so what should i do now? she also sent me texts like "Just wanted to say good nite" WTF IS THAT ABOUT?

[Sebulba]

She's blown you out for the second time?

Can you post a message saying exactly what you've said to each other up untill now?

messages like "just wanted to say good night" are MASSIVE indicators of interest on her behalf. She likes you alot.

Like I said, post and tell me what you've said to each other.

[pointman]

:eek: so she said "Just wanted to say night" one night text..so i text her back...saying "aww your soo sweet nite babe. sorry been so busy lately"

then we had the 2nd plans on tuesday and I text her to make the plans sorta:
my text: "so when do you plan on making it up to me"
her text: "i am off this thursday lets do something then"

my text: "hmm ok I will think about it and get back to you, i dont want you to send me off again..lol"

then i didnt call her till monday night and said: "So are we still on for tomo"
her: ohh soo now you can call on short notice...i dont know its my only day off i will let you know. call you back

than the bitch never called me back...now what? text her what?

[Sperkzy]

Seb man help me out this is my thread wtf...

what should I do now since she has blown me off for the 2nd time i GUESS it was my fault since i dont call her until the day before but hey im busy...so what should i do now? she also sent me texts like "Just wanted to say good nite" WTF IS THAT ABOUT?

Haha, sorry Pointman.

Use this one for my problem:

http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3213

And to pointman:

Yea man. It confuses me to, they like go between ignoring you to liking you to ignoring you! Agh!

[Sebulba]

Sorry guys, I was confused as to who had posted which message!

Pointman - I loved your "so when do you plan on making it up to me?" text, very nice.

But you should have just made the date there and then and not strung her along again, you're drawing it out too long. You need to reward her for good behaviour sometimes.

I don't think she was blowing you out by saying it was short notice, becuase it was! She says she's gonna call you so wait for her to do so. Don't act all needy, it sounds like she will call. Make a date when she does and stick to it, if she plays up again forget it!

Where are you and sperkzy from by the way? i'm from wiltshire in the UK.

Seb

[Sperkzy]

Sorry guys, I was confused as to who had posted which message!

Pointman - I loved your "so when do you plan on making it up to me?" text, very nice.

But you should have just made the date there and then and not strung her along again, you're drawing it out too long. You need to reward her for good behaviour sometimes.

I don't think she was blowing you out by saying it was short notice, becuase it was! She says she's gonna call you so wait for her to do so. Don't act all needy, it sounds like she will call. Make a date when she does and stick to it, if she plays up again forget it!

Where are you and sperkzy from by the way? i'm from wiltshire in the UK.

Seb

I agree. It seemed like he had it in the bag. I like that "when you going to make it up to me" also. I'll probably use that.

Damn, should have just went for it man!

And im from Cali

[Sperkzy]

Eep! I need some help! She texted me again today... she said.

"When am I going to get to see you again?!"

And I said:

"Hmm. When you free hun?"

And she said.

"How about tomorrow??..."

And I said.

"Possibly. You have a time you are thinking of?"

And she hasnt responded in a while.

She keeps doing that! She'll text me like 1-2 times then stop. Should I say something?

(ADDED 5:45pm the next day)

She still hasnt responded.

I texted her again this morning, "Hey I need to know if you still wana do something tonight. If not I was gonna hang with my other friend. And she needs to know if im free tonight. :) "

STILL no response! Wataf!?

Is she just playin me? Or is it bad for me to ask so many questions (when/where/ect.) ... should have I just planned it myself? But I live sort of far from her (40 mins) so its not something I can just plan, I dont know to much about where to go in LA....

[Shreddd]

:eek: so she said "Just wanted to say night" one night text..so i text her back...saying "aww your soo sweet nite babe. sorry been so busy lately"

then we had the 2nd plans on tuesday and I text her to make the plans sorta:
my text: "so when do you plan on making it up to me"
her text: "i am off this thursday lets do something then"

my text: "hmm ok I will think about it and get back to you, i dont want you to send me off again..lol"

then i didnt call her till monday night and said: "So are we still on for tomo"
her: ohh soo now you can call on short notice...i dont know its my only day off i will let you know. call you back

than the bitch never called me back...now what? text her what?
She's got a superiority complex. She is used to validation, and when you give it to her, you are becoming every other guy. You've got to give it in doses where it is appropriate. It doesn't have to be for a reward. It can be just to taunt her with her how good you CAN be to her...and then blatantly put her on hold. That's what she is doing to you!

Time to turn the tables, my friend. How can a guy give her validation that is worth anything if she is the one toying with you? She is a woman, dude. She can't add to your life anything more than what you already have. It should be perfect without her. And rather than getting upset over it, you should be happily toying with her ideals..."Look! Follow the shiny thing. Aw, did you want a piece of my life? Oh you did? Come a little closer. Almost...you want to have sex with it, don't you? Wait your turn. Oh, I'll make it better later."

She wants to play with the toy. She'll chase the bouncy ball if it rolls away two feet in front of her. Try this text.

"Hey next time I see you, bring lemons. Don't ask."

Ignore her response for an hour or three. And don't bring up the lemons until she shows up with no lemons. Suspense could kill a woman. It does all the push/pull for you. And maybe, next time you go out, cancel on her to go shopping with your little sister. That should drive her nuts how a guy as mysterious and cool as you would actually be sweet enough to take his sister out. Fear of loss combined with an attraction switch - now that's playing dirty like a woman (not that I don't trust women...just there is no reason to trust her if you don't know her that well). Create the void that you fill.


May I remind you that girls who play dirty like her - don't deserve the normal maneuvers. You have to play hard ball.

[Sperkzy]

Wtf do you do if she does bring lemons?

[Da-Azn-Dude]

Make lemondae? lol

Shreddd ---> Awesome advice!

But i dunno... In my opinon i think this girl may be fucking with you Sperkzy.(?) Don't get too attached to this situation though, you'll only drive yourself crazy.

[Sperkzy]

Make lemondae? lol

Shreddd ---> Awesome advice!

But i dunno... In my opinon i think this girl may be fucking with you Sperkzy.(?) Don't get too attached to this situation though, you'll only drive yourself crazy.

Yea maybe. But she was really sweet so I dunno.

[Shreddd]

Wtf do you do if she does bring lemons?
"If life gives you lemons, make lemonade."

That's just an expression, but it can actually happen. Heh.

What do you do if anything strange happens? Play it off! If it isn't so far beyond your frame work in your reality, you can at least turn it into something else. Heck, I'd go ballistic for some lemons right now. I hope I don't get scurvy...need citrus...

[Shreddd]

Yea maybe. But she was really sweet so I dunno.
Yeah I know some sweet girls who like fcking with people's heads. Flattery is an artform.

[Da-Azn-Dude]

Hell, if u ain't a fan of lemonade be creative. Can anyone say TEQUILA SHOTS??

[Sebulba]

Personally I think you should just make a date and stop playing around with each other, it's going on wayyy too long now. If she cancles again, just forget her, do you really wanna have a girlfriend like that anyway?

Agreeing to meet for a date isn't jumping through hoops, this is how we have to organise our lives in order to function!!!

Serisously, don't take anymore shit.

Seb

[Sperkzy]

Personally I think you should just make a date and stop playing around with each other, it's going on wayyy too long now. If she cancles again, just forget her, do you really wanna have a girlfriend like that anyway?

Agreeing to meet for a date isn't jumping through hoops, this is how we have to organise our lives in order to function!!!

Serisously, don't take anymore shit.

Seb

Yay, I was waiting to hear from you. I like your advice.

(I dont know if you were talking to the OP or me. I think you were replying to the OP, but my problem is similar.)

BUT, if you were talking to me. I am thinking of doing this, im not sure when, but soon. Calling her up and calling her out on it, "Hey are you playing with me? You keep wanting to hang out and then you dont respond." ect. ect.

And let that be the last hurrah.

But, i'm not gonna do anything without some fellow VAF/PUA advice.

[Utah]

Still no reply?

Text: "Hey, you haven't replied to my text yet. Playing hard to get are we? Don't worry, I LOVE that game;-)" - Credit David D

I've used that line upwards of 15 times and it has NEVER failed to get a response

[Revel]

In the mean time get out and go sarging, get yourself "options" Thats another attraction switch. Hang out with other women (preselection) If you can get one of them to hang out just as a friend in a social setting that's a good step for you. Also Shreddd really has the right idea on this otherwise you'll end up chasing even more and lowering your value even more.

[Sebulba]

Hey sperksy,

Sorry haven't been able to get online much lately...

Don't text her with "Hey are you playing with me? You keep wanting to hang out and then you dont respond." It sounds rather needy and not fun at all. The comment below your last post from utah was brilliant, send that if you haven't sent one already. Let me know what happens.

I scored with a hb9 last night. Rock on.

Seb. x

[Shreddd]

Hey sperksy,

Sorry haven't been able to get online much lately...

Don't text her with "Hey are you playing with me? You keep wanting to hang out and then you dont respond." It sounds rather needy and not fun at all. The comment below your last post from utah was brilliant, send that if you haven't sent one already. Let me know what happens.

I scored with a hb9 last night. Rock on.

Seb. x
Yeah I totally wouldn't like that if a girl sent that to me. I would think that she was like begging me to text her by guilt tripping me. It's so lame, dude. The David D. line is what you want to say in the way you want to say it. Use that one instead. It's a line that WORKS. It says all the right things.

[Sperkzy]

I sent that message and it didnt work. I felt really dumb for sending it after I sent it. That sounds desperate as hell, it also shows that you are interested. I dont even know if she just wanted to hang out as friends!

"I love playing that game ;)" Wow. That sounds way to seductive.

Cant belive I sent that. -_-

[Akira]

You needed to have set a time and not leave it up to her. Say, how about 8? Or even more decicive, TELL her 8. If she can't, well hopefully she would have said when, but then tell her another time, like 9.

Yea, and you need to get out there and find some hot spots to go.

I just had a date about a month ago and I was trying to be as decicive as possible, but I might have still been inexperienced sounding in the texts.

We figured a time, but I was trying to figure out a place to go. And this was just for coffee. I asked if she liked some other drink (boba--tapioca drink) and she said, no, sorry. Then I asked if she liked desserts, and she said, yea, all girls like desserts, but how about coffee, unless you don't like it (she said to me)

I was making it wayyy too complicated. Find some good default spots or places you'd like to try out. It's important to be prepared.

If you really wanted to work it, you could have said, oh, I'm busy tommorrow, how about <the next day>...

Chicks are really finicky...


And I said.

"Possibly. You have a time you are thinking of?"

And she hasnt responded in a while.

... should have I just planned it myself? But I live sort of far from her (40 mins) so its not something I can just plan, I dont know to much about where to go in LA....

[Shreddd]

I sent that message and it didnt work. I felt really dumb for sending it after I sent it. That sounds desperate as hell, it also shows that you are interested. I dont even know if she just wanted to hang out as friends!

"I love playing that game ;)" Wow. That sounds way to seductive.

Cant belive I sent that. -_-
Well if you didn't set her up with cocky funny game, then it wouldn't have worked very well. I don't always get texts back either. Just shrug it off. Text game is tough. It really has to reflect your highlights of your previous game. And I still believe it was better than what you were going to say, although it probably still made a better impression. If she asks, just let her know that you were feeling happy and cocky that day.

[Sperkzy]

Well if you didn't set her up with cocky funny game, then it wouldn't have worked very well. I don't always get texts back either. Just shrug it off. Text game is tough. It really has to reflect your highlights of your previous game. And I still believe it was better than what you were going to say, although it probably still made a better impression. If she asks, just let her know that you were feeling happy and cocky that day.

Hehe, thanks Shreddd. But I don't believe there will be a next time. Damn, I lost this one! I was so close!

I should of just told her. 9pm at ___ coffee shop. Be there...
Sent her another text today; "Miss ya. Hope your ok."
But I think its to late. Althought I think I got pretty for with an exotic dancer on my first try.

[Sperkzy]

Does anyone have a secret weapon?! Something that I could get her back with?

Ergh, I miss her! And she was so damn cute. She looked exactly like Brooke Hogan :

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/singer/brooke-hogan/pictures/brooke-hogan-picture-1.jpg

And a little bit like Spencer Locke from the new Resident Evil.

Agh! I dont even like blondes that much, but shes damn cute.
I really wana see her again. :( :( :(

I think my "You playing hard to get? I LOVE that game ;) " Really killed it for me.

[Lopez]

really it starts to become hit or miss...i met a chick through a female friend and didn't really make any attempt except a neg to talk to her all night really until we were leaving. I hugged her friend BEFORE hugging her when i left. UNFORTUNATELY, my female friend asked her on my behalf w/o permission if she could give me my targetsnumber bc she thought i would ask even though I showed no interest (matchmaking). So I waited till the next weekend with "I got your number from nina who insisted that i call you. I was seeing if you were able to get together and hang out, guess not...i'll be out with the guys. Later"
Then i knew she would get back to me on her own time. So I sarged this weekend hanging out with some friends and pivots. I get a text today "Sry I haven't called bak. I had a super busy weekend."
My response: "Its cool. People have lives and jobs. Too bad because you missed a lot of fun."

[Shreddd]

Hehe, thanks Shreddd. But I don't believe there will be a next time. Damn, I lost this one! I was so close!

I should of just told her. 9pm at ___ coffee shop. Be there...
Sent her another text today; "Miss ya. Hope your ok."
But I think its to late. Althought I think I got pretty for with an exotic dancer on my first try.
Lopez gave a good example of what you could of done. "I miss you." is probably the oldest trick in the book...so old every girl knows it and hates it coming from a guy who isn't her boyfriend. She would be offended if her boyfriend didn't think of her, but you my friend, are not a boyfriend. You are a potential suitor. You can shower her with validation and passion, but she won't take the bait unless it MEANS something to her. And we are not in a day and age where that type of behavior is rare and alluring to high status females.

Instead of sending a text like, "Miss ya. Hope you're okay." It should be more like, "Miss me? I thought I'd give some random person I haven't seen in a while a happy text! Smile! See you soon." If she replies with a tease, tease her back. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but you seem like you lack frame control in general. Instead of asking her if she is okay which is a dumb move bringing up bad emotions before you are involved with her, you should have given her the opportunity to be more happy. If you honestly think she is in a bad mood, give her a taste of what a good mood will feel like and maybe she'll open up to you. Try being more fun over texting...do random happy junk and find out what gets the best responses.

[Shreddd]

I think my "You playing hard to get? I LOVE that game ;) " Really killed it for me.
Maybe...or maybe anything you would have said would have demonstrated too much interest. She's an exotic dancer, huh? She knows when a guy likes her, and knows when she has something special...something she shouldn't have, but just wants it even more because she can't have it. How are you different from the other guys who shower her with attention? Think about it, and use it to your advantage.

All in all, this is a learning experience for you. That is a proven text message that works when used right. However, rather than blaming it on the text message, find out where the REAL problem lies. Were you congruent? Were you non-needy? Were you dominant? Were you mysterious and exciting? If you answered no to any of those - THAT'S where the problem lies, not in the line itself.

It takes great skill to be able to develop the cognitive ability to decipher your own effect on people...something that isn't learned over night. Chances are - you showed some kind of switch in the vibes you gave off - red flagging to her that you are insecure or manipulative - not the kind of guy she wants to be around. Learn to find the highlights (things she responded well to on your Day1) of your interactions and convey that when time bridging. Also, I find it helps to add in an element of mystery and excitement.

[LordSinistR]

dude you fucked up being needy to her. one thing you got to know is a stripper is used to being showered with gifts, money, and lame compliments. remember once a stripper always as stripper and strippers ALL have the same mentality!

she played the game you should have been playing with her!

i think you screwed up when you said you were going out with ANOTHER friend instead cause she didn't get back to you. This told her you are out playing with other women and you are not interested in a LTR with her when you said ANOTHER friend cause that is what she is to you. Total Turn Off for her!

Strippers are in a different league than most chicks as i stated earlier. Gotta play hard ball with them! Show NO emotion, love, or commitment but don't suggest to her that she is liked like a friend. Show her your pursuing her but not pursuing her, show her your interested but not interested, show her your different than the run of the mill titty bar jokers she see's every night!

get in her head and you have a chance! to get in her head you gotta get passed the bitch walls she puts up as a safety net ;)

Good luck and try try again :cool:

[Sperkzy]

Hey thanks guys...

I guess I killed it. So im guessing its done with?

LordS you brought up a really good point. That seemed like a really potential downfall. My picking up game is pretty decent, but im so clueless to text game. You guys have given me some great pointers. I hope ill have a chance to use it again.

Damnit, I almost got with an exotic dancer. Is it to late?

[Lopez]

I like this one... " You missed the last chance to go out and have fun, it would stink to miss a second....you should join me and my friends...yada yada."

[Shreddd]

Hey thanks guys...

I guess I killed it. So im guessing its done with?

LordS you brought up a really good point. That seemed like a really potential downfall. My picking up game is pretty decent, but im so clueless to text game. You guys have given me some great pointers. I hope ill have a chance to use it again.

Damnit, I almost got with an exotic dancer. Is it to late?
You still have a hot girl's number. See if you can get her opinion on your game materials, at least. Never waste a good number. Tell her you'd like it if she wants to flirt cuz you're a little bored in class/work...that you're in the mood (but you actually DO have to be in the mood). Then just text away all your little lines, and she can rate them. Make your game into a game. I don't care how you project your new attitudes. But what I can tell you is that "Innocence + Sexuality" is a dangerous combination to open doors wide open for your game.

And let me know if you think she is lying to you about being busy or stubborn about giving her opinions on stuff. I'll give you an ebook on how to detect lies and squeeze the truth out of anyone if you PM me. Here's a line that has worked well for me to get girls to open up, "You know you can tell me anything without me blowing up or it ruining my day, right?"

And if she replies back to any of the texts, you can use it for your own advantage even if it is "Stop texting me, creep." In which case your defense is to call her cute and tease her for any stunt like that she tries to pull on you. "Aww, how cute. You're not used to attention, are you?" You can thank Sean of PickUp101 for that tip of pretending she's cutezy and teasing her when you're supposed to be blown out. You can't take a girl seriously when her defenses are up if you are an honest, innocent, irresistible man.

[Lopez]

okay...texting is a lot like calling:
Don't EVER expect an immediate response
Don't EVER keep texting her thinking it will speed a response, she will get back in her own time...make her wonder

AND most important if you have a GOOD long conversation that involves joking pay strict attention to anything you can use later. Example:

The girl i met last night said she likes my glasses and since she got lasek surgery misses wearing glasses.

SO, a good response is : Hope that 'not wearing glasses' thing is working for you. Too bad i really like glasses :-p

[Lopez]

By doing that you're leaving something that she almost can't keep from replying to...honestly even you would want to respond to that. All conversation needs substance, teasing, and incentive to respond

[Sperkzy]

K, so its been a couple of weeks since I "screwed it up"

Is there anything I should say to her now? I was thinking, "Hey im going out tonight. You missed out last time, dont miss out again. =) "

Hows that sound?

[Colin]

if you still wanna impress her. you should show up with a hired gun top cutie... kinda show what she missed...(even it was probably your fault). maybe its a jealous one but hey, you gotta proof that she shouldn`t miss you.

[Shreddd]

Eh, just be creative, positive, non-needy, friendly, and mysterious. Show your best side. Think, "What would I say when I am having fun being playful and in the moment with her?" Narrow down your results, and send it off. If she don't like it, that's her fault. A lot of girls don't return my texts. When I see them in RL, I just tell them that I sent it out to a lot of people because I was out that night with my friends. Sometimes they immediately realize they were being dumb and stuck up and ask me how it went. If they just say, "Oh." Then I tell them how exciting it was anyway...yay instant DHV stories. Never try to change a girl's mind...just change her mood.

And don't try to be like someone else. The more you take your personality out of your game, the worse off you'll be. Be your best self.

[JekDaPUA]

Being impressive will get you so far.. being interesting a lot further

[Shreddd]

The more you play it off as your text was "no big deal" and that you are just being social and you don't care what others think about your because you are living the dream...that's when your text game won't become a sticking point anymore.

[tumston]

moral of the story: you should have waited for seb's post before texting back

nice

[Marc-Antony]

All thosee texts you have been sending her ... screams needy.

HB:"When am I going to get to see you again."

I would go with, something very alpha, but that's the way to go when a girl is stringing you along like that.

"Let me know what you got in mind, I'll see If I can make it."

Instead of, "when are you free hun?"

"When are you free hun" shows massive intrest on your side, even some neediness "hun" plus "asking her a question", and you are relying on her way too much. Even, if indeed ultimatly it's her job to decide if she wants to see you, you shouldn't give her the impression that she is the one leading the dance.

"Let me know what you got mind, I'll see if I can make it."

Is way more alpha, no neediness, you are forcing her to take action if she is intrested, yet, you are the one leading the entire seduction process, with the "I'll see If I can make it." Maybe I'll see if I can make it, will come off as too arrogant, too alpha ... so maybe "Let me know what you got in mind, ...", Yeah that last part sounds way to arrogant, too cold, she might blow you off because of that.

OK, I got it


HB:"When am I going to get to see you again."
PUA: "Depends. what do you have in mind?"

Depends = taking control
What do you have in mind? = gives her the impression she is leading the dance, when really she knows she isn't.

Leave it at that. If she wants to see you again, she'll let you know.


PS: I just read the whole thread ... wayyyy to many texts ... wayyyy to many. Needy Needy Needy ... You need to work on your text game. Rule of the thumb don't send her more texts than she has sent you.








Eep! I need some help! She texted me again today... she said.

"When am I going to get to see you again?!"

And I said:

"Hmm. When you free hun?"

And she said.

"How about tomorrow??..."

And I said.

"Possibly. You have a time you are thinking of?"

And she hasnt responded in a while.

She keeps doing that! She'll text me like 1-2 times then stop. Should I say something?

(ADDED 5:45pm the next day)

She still hasnt responded.

I texted her again this morning, "Hey I need to know if you still wana do something tonight. If not I was gonna hang with my other friend. And she needs to know if im free tonight. :) "

STILL no response! Wataf!?

Is she just playin me? Or is it bad for me to ask so many questions (when/where/ect.) ... should have I just planned it myself? But I live sort of far from her (40 mins) so its not something I can just plan, I dont know to much about where to go in LA....