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Rhythm
09-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Ok here goes... This is not advice. This is not a story. This is me trying to develop myself to not become a venturian artist, but a better future me.

I'm writing this after getting home from another great night out, that could have been the best breakfast ever! I'm writing this for my personal progression and for ppl who can relate and might take what I'm about to say into consideration... but really just for me ;)

They say the dancefloor is a 'trap'. Some say it's not really a trap, more like it requires a whole different game. I think that it's a fantastic place (for me) to really enjoy my time in a club with great music! But, everything I've read on the game has been vocal, body language when engaging in conversation, but practically all talking. Because I spend about 80% of my time on the dancefloor and the other 20% just walking around the club, I find that the dancefloor is where I get a lot of attraction. Now hear me out, I mean 'proximity'. I often have good looking girls use proximity when they see me from across the floor. I can dance. I have a good time. I oose energy and positive vibes. But I have an immense inability to dance with or approach an HB - whatever the number! I have made about 3 pathetic advances of interest on the floor tonight and all were (quite fairly) shot down or dismissed. Now I know about the slut shield. I can't possibly expect an HB to surrender her game to the first advance (unless I've done something exceptionaly perfect) so I must break through her shield and make her feel won over.

I sometimes stop and think to myself, "Hang on. I thought the trick was to not show neediness or a direct sign of interest to the target?" But how are you meant to do that on the floor?! Please if someone knows how to dance and freely engage with an HB on the dancefloor, without being able to say a word, and without letting on your (mutual) attraction, I'd LOVE to know...

Mystery has explained that we have this fear of approach hardwired into our brain and it's there for a reason. I can't argue with that. But for fuck sake it's a bitch to deal with it huh?! "So stop being a bitch, and deal with it!" Thanks, Mark. I am.

Among other realisations from tonight and past identical experiences, I have learned these very important things:

1. Like I told my friend in the car on the way back home; how can you expect your life to change and have a woman come into your life eventually, if nothing you do changes. If you haven't had success in the past (at all, none) what makes you think that's going to change if you don't?!

2. No matter how much we want something, in this case a sexy female companion, it doesn't come easy. I studied semiotics a little bit and girls are so used to picking up on the signals of thousands of guys who want in. Of course they can pick up on all the signs we give off and can tell if we are comfortable and natural, or most likely not. I think this is unavoidable. You might be savvy with words and using tried and tested material but how can you use it all if she can see your socially uncomfortable-ass a mile off?

(Again, this is just for me to learn off of, really. To document and improve upon my mental anguish).

2b. I noticed that the whole night, I spent around my friend. Constanly making eye contact with eachother, when I'm not, I'm looking all around the room, every direction, occasionally letting my glances seen by HBs. We are so insecure that if one of us goes to the bathroom/bar, the other feels very uncomfortable and 'lost'. So if what point 2 is true:

"If we are socially uncomfortable. How can we expect to greet a guy at the bar, never mind an HB with a finely tuned, calibrated radar?!"

So I end this with a method of improvement, that I MUST do... Go out into the field and no matter what shit I get dealt, I must gain experience, I will learn, I will adapt, I will begin to feel natural and comfortable. I will calibrate! Fuck it, I'll ask ppl to reject me just so I can get used to that too!

Wow, thanks for reading it all (or skipping down), I appreciate that :)

The sun's coming up now, it's daylight. I've got a big day of making an ass of myself ahead! Woo!! Will document further...

Shreddd
09-09-2007, 11:54 AM
You weren't getting through their sheilds because you had no value. Think about it for a second. How many girls were dancing with you? It was just you and another dude, right? Was he dancing with you? Haha, I know it sounds funny, but girls will dance with you if they see that you are having a good time without them - they will want a piece of it. If you are pretending to be gay with your friend there and a girl picks up on it - BAM! You have yourself a girl...and after that, you can dance with her friends...then the girls next to her.

Girls are at a club to have a good time - to be stimulated. If you can't provide that or even worse, take it away from her or her friends - then you'll be dancing alone. But if you can provide a world of constant stimuli - you'll attract them in by the packs.

Rhythm
09-09-2007, 02:00 PM
if they see that you are having a good time without them - they will want a piece of it.

I couldn't agree more. I was having a great time and was rarely letting on to my attractions with the select HBs (I'm picky). I was really enjoying myself and it was evident that it was because of the music and not the surrounding girls. But I'm too pussy. I guess that's all that is to it...

senario: I enter the room. It's not very busy on the floor. I might choose to get a drink to loosen up and get into the mood(5-10mins). I work my way to the floor which is predominately covered with males dancing in bunches. I get into it, good track comes on and I make my way to the centre. Not long until I'm loving the music, dancing well, catching glances from elsewhere, and before I know it, the females start to emerge from the sidelines. I guess some guys aren't too confident dancing so they leave. Now the sex ratio is 50/50. Girls use proximity all the time. I don't react (I'm pussy). Throughout the night I know they are near me for a reason because the shy ones are just barely dancing and sometimes dancing parallel to us! But most dance behind at an angle so I can see them in my peripherals. I still don't batt an eye so they might keep repositioning themselves around me until I can't pretend to be blind anymore.

This is the same situation, everytime. I show value through dancing solo, having energy and smiling, but I can't seem to find a way, ANY way to get myself to dance with these nice girls, even with proximity! Grrrr

I see guys just using persistance and being completely blatant when dancing up next to them. I don't want to ever do that but I don't know any other way. I've never seen anyone pull any other way without being naturally alpha.

It's this one step that I have never passed successfully. From dancing with my friend, to dancing (and locking in) with a girl beside me...

Help?!

husky
09-10-2007, 12:04 PM
well i dont dance very often when going to clubs/bars , but if you guys want some tip
normally i would go to the bar early pick up girls , and then take them to the dance floor (or they would eventually ask me to dance), not to dance but for comfort and kino ascalation , (dancing is great for kino-ascalation )
almost all the time i never pick up girls from the dance floor nor even get close to it (the music is too loud)
if she even try to comment on my dancing skill( lol i got no skill in dancing ) i would ditch her right away , then 99% of the time she follow me to a dark corner for making out
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"always be the flame , not the morph "-casanova

Rhythm
09-12-2007, 10:27 AM
I didn't end up going on that newbie mission after all... I do intend on doing that soon though. It's just that trying to find a graphic design job in my area has taken priority! I'm going to keep reading up on cold approach and daytime public field game. Reading just doesn't have the impact that watching video does. So I've been watching video clips on youtube aswell.

Oh right, and I've been trying to find videos of Mystery's VH1 show online but can't find any! I don't think they show it on TV over here...