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Epicure
02-08-2011, 08:14 AM
I would like to get back to discussing Game for guys above 40.

We fellows above 40 might still be attracted to women in their mid to late 20s, but, what I have observed is that I really have to disqualify myself to them so that their creepy-old-guy sensor alarm does not go off. Discovery has talked to me about the idea of applying the sales funnel strategy to Game. I understand that to mean that in sales, whether it be yachts or cars or houses, you make a tons of calls, and from those calls, a few less people show some interest, and then a smaller subset make further inquiries, and from that subset, a few will buy. It is a cascade or a funnel. You need to make many calls to get the sales. I think some younger guys expect to master game, walk in to a club, and get every girl they open. What is the number one attraction switch, boys? From everything I have been taught in Boot Camps and observed when I did live in-fields on the boot camps, and from what my friends in Game tell me and from my own experiences, the NUMBER ONE ATTRACTION SWITCH is PRE-SELECTION. So, what I have been working on is making friends with younger women, and then getting them to the point that they feel that I will not hit on them, but just want to go to clubs with them. I am quite direct and have told a couple of young women that they are too young for me, but that I like them as friends, and they look to me for proection and dating advice about men. They undestand that I am using them as pivots or wings, and that I will provide them with value, too. My goal is to build a constellation of female orbiters who might be young but enjoy my company. The further goal is that I will have pretty girls who will go out with me, and that through pre-selection, they help me get the older women. The idea I got from Discovery is to not focus on getting laid, but to focus on bringing more women in to my life and developing my social circle. Also, if I have many younger female friends who know I will not hit on them, then that will provide me with social proof that will be seen by other young women outside of my immediate circle. I do feel there is value in cultivating female friends that you don't game to f-close, but use in social game. I feel that this is important for men of any age, but is a great tool for older guys.

Opinions brothers?

mymeowcat
02-08-2011, 01:32 PM
What you are talking about is also known as Entourage Game and I think a PUA instructror called Adam Lyons specializes in it.

The basic theory you just described is good but there are a few tactical problems if you try it:

1) You have to get girls that want to go out with you to your selected sarging venue. For example: There's a lot of women I know who don't go to night clubs. I think a lot of women grow out of them by the time they hit 26. If you choose a lounge or pub --- it would "hopefully" be one with some targets and one the girls would like to go to.

2) One problem another guy posted on was that the girls that show up with their MALE friends with them. This is a problem if --- for example -- you invite 3 girls but they each bring 2 guys to keep them company...instead of clustering around you.

You would really have to meet a lot of women to get a small subset that will go to selected venues at the time you choose!

Epicure
06-08-2011, 05:20 PM
One of the experts in Entourage Game is Discovery. He is a Vensuian Arts Coach and a Trainer of Coaches with VA. I feel that one of the best ways to get a crash course in Entourage Game is to attend a VA boot camp and go into the field with the junior coaches and get a feel for how they do it.

Truthfully, whenever I go on a boot camp, I see some of the techniques and the style of Discovery and the coaches in training in regardto Entourage.