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Lion Tamer

09-12-2007, 01:17 AM

Wow, last night was good, could have been great (great is when I fuck-close). I'm at the club by the bar when an 8hb about 5 feet with an hourglass figure an long dark hair walks by and gives the runway Beyonce walk so I'd look at her(she did that on purpose she told me later). So what do I do, I looked and thats it. I should have opened her but I still have trouble always using the 3 second rule. Buddy of mine says "you see that?" me "but of course". Looking for him to push me I ask "should I open" he says "no, just wait" so I wait which of course is dumb now thinking back on it. He's not a real wing who's into the game or anything so don't ask me why I even listened to him. I should of just took control and made it my reality, but I didn't. Now I'm at the bar trying to have good open body language, look non-needy, and seem like i'm having fun. When out the corner of my eye the 8hb who is now upstairs waves in my direction which is something i'm not used to by the way. Next I look to the sides of me and behind me before I return the wave, as to not give the oh i'm sorry i thought your were waving at me look. Then she points and mouthed the words "you" and then indicates for me to join her. Well inside my AFC self wants me to go running up there like a puppy dog, screaming i'm comming beautiful, but I caught myself and new immediatly that she needed to come to me, its my reality anyway. So I indicate to her to come down to me at the bar and she insists I come up to her and of course this is a shit test "he's gonna do whatever I want him to do, just like every other guy", but gentlemen we are not every other guy, we are the exception. Now I made up my mind I'm not going to do the chasing, she is going to have to chase me, so I stay put to let her know I will not be jumping through any hoops tonight. Even though it felt uncomfortable and inside I was kicking myself and thinking this better work. And what you know she starts to walk down the stairs, but still having some AFC in me I met her at the bottom of the stairs. Should have made her come the whole way. She then tells me she kept walking by me on purpose wanting me to say something to her but got tired of waiting. You see fellas they do want to be opened and when you don't you look like someone who is unsure of himself. So when you ask yourself or in my case ask someone else should I open the answer 100% of the time is YES. At the start of the conversation she has her back against the wall and I'm standing in front of her feeling like i'm hovering over her which I know is not good. Again its my reality so I need to make it revolve around me. Thus I stand next to her shoulder to shoulder and talk to her with my neck turned. I then tell her, not ask, but tell her to stand if front of me cause my neck was hurting and she does. Now I have changed the whole vibe of the situation, now I'm against the wall leaning back and she is on the outside hovering over me. It's funny how something so small can make a difference. I felt like some big shot movie producer and this girl was trying to audition for me. Well I do some cocky/funny, push/pull, and never give her a straight anwser. I remember giving her a hard time but in a playful way. I don't give the exact words cause its not what you say but how you say it. I know its cliche, but there is so much truth to it. I never was worried about what I was going to say next because i just kept the mindset that she is chasing me and had to impress me, not the other way around. It was working, she told me I wasn't like the guys she normaly talked to. Needless to say she kept touching me and inching closer to me, my friend who was in the background kept giving me the oh yes face. At that point I decide to do some more push/pull and tell her I have to get back to my friend "its my round and all that" just so I could end the interaction and leave her wanting more. Also to show non-neediness and high value. She tells me not to go which tells me i'm in like flint, this is of course the hook point. I still decide to return to my friend with the thinking I'll see her again in a few. She says "how do I know you'll see me again" I say "because I liked your energy and you seemed like a fun girl, so i'll be back" which was kinda AFC I should have teased her more. Before I leave her I say "kiss" then point to my cheek and she lays one on me, her lips felt so full and firm yet so soft and a little wet. Well I go back to my friend and gloat and give him the details (couldn't help it). Hence time passes and I don't see her again, damn I should have at least attempted a kiss-close. So i'm upset with myself and thinking like a total AFC, what if I don't see her, why didn't I make a move earlier, what if, why, what if, blah blah blah. Then bam there she is, YES and drunk off her ass, NO. Not for me, I want to woo women not take advantage of them. Then we leave to another club and still riding high off my earlier success I due a lot better than I normally due. Style is right success brings confidence, you don't just have it. I had some success and it carried me through the whole night. Well thats it for now fellas, I tried to be as detailed as possible. I'm open to any and all comments, what could I have done better or different, what did I do right & wrong. I welcome the advice, as long its constructive, give me something I can use don't just be an ass. Also i'm taking ideas on setting something up for us here in SA to get together share our ideas, see where eveybody's game is and then go sarging together on a regular basis. I just need people who are commited to this and its not just a fad for them. Not to be preachy I just don't want to waste time. Later

Lion Tamer

Endric

09-12-2007, 02:55 PM

Hey man, I don't have very long to post, but I wanted to let you know I did read the Field Report and will comment on it later tonight and will get my "squad" to do the same. We call our group "GNO," Guys Night Out.

We should meet up some time, send me a private message and we'll talk about it. Probably no sarging on the first night, at least planned, because we aren't in this to help the "Tyler Durdens" of the world. Not that it sounds like you are, just need to be sure.

Monkey

09-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Great report! I totally get not wanting to take advantage of drunk girls as well Maybe coulda gone for the #close to meet when she's not tanked? :-P

Congrats!

I agree with the need for a pre-sarge meetup. If anyone has details working, PM me.

Endric

09-12-2007, 09:28 PM

You basically know exactly what you did wrong. Major A++ kudos on not taking advantage of the drunk HB8. Monkey's suggestion to have gotten the #close seems like it would have been okay.

I would suggest that in the situation where you wanted to leave to DHV and show non-neediness(you already had proven your non neediness though) you could have used a lock-in prop. Ie. "you aren't a thief are you? Cuz this is still my bracelet and I expect you to bring it back to me."

We definitely need to get a meetup going. My friends and I combined 2 2sets yesterday and it was a major thrill. Ill field report it tomorrow. My guys were supposed to drop into the thread and post, but I guess they were busy tonight. How old are you guys and what part of SA do you live in? We're all 22 and on the NE side. Also, are you in the game for lays or LTRs? No qualms either way. I think we're in it for lays untill we find an LTR worthy girl. What are your plans looking like for tomorrow evening after 6? Maybe we can grab a bite to eat somewhere and talk. Quarry maybe? Let me know, I have school in the morning but Ill be checking during breaks and such.

xFortunex

09-12-2007, 10:28 PM

Well....congrats Tamer, sounds very exciting...and i LOVE the fact that we have other PUAs in SA.....well....i just recently finished Ross Jeffries, "How to get the woman you desire in bed." An interesting outlook, and i DO plan to put some of his methods into use....although i do not agree fully on what it seems his outlook on females happens to be.

So...heres another field report....Firstly....theres a group of 3 of us....Endric (End for short), Locks, and myself, Fortune. So...i had begun reading the Ross Jeffries book, and it started out with a major confidence booster, and lets face it, we ALL are lacking....or depending on your level in the game were lacking.....so my wings and I did this little routine....and we approached starbucks....The past couple of weeks since school let back in, everywhere we had went had been MAJORLY target poor, so we figured, lets go to the main starbucks.....while its prime time(7 PM)...and then maybe we will have a luckier shot.....so we enter, and look around....a one-set with a comp. obstacle....easily a hb8.....nah.......we look outside.....theres sets with only men....and unfortunately, we're not that ballsy yet....so.....we keep looking and BOOM....2 set on the left, an empty table, and another 2 set on the right. We grab our drinks....im last to get out there...and by the time i do....Locks had already opened one of the sets...so im not sure what he opened with....but i be sure to hop right in, and neg the girl closest to me....easily another HB8....name's Talia. Anywho, we use a few gambits asking their opinions on, "why is it girls jus LOVE to dress their boyfriends up in makeup" We call it the "make-over gambit." So...the girls are trying to act like they've never ever wanted to, or even thought about it, and by this time they've left their books, and area to join ours. So...Locks ends opening the other set with the same gambit/opener. They are kinda hesitant...but Locks, being as charismatic as he is, gets em involved, and they also join our group....in my mind....im thinking GREAT!......this makes it that much more easier for me. So...now were a group of 7....and needless to say, more chicks than dicks....which is awesome in my opinion.....so....Negs start flying....and this is where our problem lies, since we're new to the game....we're still not even close to being able to read each other's desires....so...that being said, we were throwing em at each girl....hoping one of the other guys would notice...but we were noticing body language instead lol. So...we'd think our wings would be going after a certain person because of their body language...when in fact it was the exact opposite.

ALSO...there was i SWEAR a chick who I wanted....who about a 6.5....her body made her a 7.5....my p****-deprevation made her an 8...lol....but her period PMS made her a -1000. My GOD....she was TOTALLY not interested in shit...and had a sour attitude about everything....HOWEVER End had that shit on lock...anything....and i mean ANYTHING he said...she instantly perked up and listened to, or tried to conversate about....she was obviously buying for his attention.....because End tryed to use the 5-questions gambit...but she refused...then later retracted her statement, and said that it was his fault....she also, would try to be bitchy, but when he called her on it...she would softly say to him, "i was just trying to be mean....ill answer your question."

ANYWHO...some ups and downs, but i would say overall, i give that run a good 7.....it would be higher but instead of asking for a number.....Locks hurriedly asked for their myspaces, which he got...not dissing my wing in any way, because its our number one rule...but we course could have gotten more.....the way we ran those sets....at the same time.....coulda used work...but was overall great...so i think we could gotten the numbers.....maybe i just regret going along with it, instead of asking myself.

Also...Tamer, or any PUA in the san antonio area.....we'd be more than happier to meet with you guys.....im me, myspace me.

myspace.com/guy_kent

AIM= guykent9045
Yahoo=ryoma_the_monk

hit us up

-Fortune

Lion Tamer

09-13-2007, 01:06 AM

Sounds like the start of something great.

Well thanks for the feedback fellas, it feels good being able to share ideas. Monkey I forgot to mention I did try and number close. I gave her my phone to put her number in it and she puts a number in it, or so i'm thinking. But she was calling some guy or something. I found out by calling it right when she gave me the phone back so she'd have my number in her phone, but some guy answers talking crazy shit. Boo drama.

Endric I understand where you comming from trying to weed out the Tyler Durdens of the world, respect. I'm not going to try and prove my worth in this posting, cause thats not real. However when we do meet you'll know I'm in this for the right reasons not to take advantage of people. I like what you and your boys are doing. Sounds like GNO is repin' big time.
Fortune nice report, you had me cracking up with how you kept giving her points for, her body and then pussy deprevation, good stuff. Thats what everyone in here should be doing learning what they can and going out into the field and use it.

To everyone don't just be at your computer all the time, make sure your getting out and experiencing real life. Make sure there is a balance, equal parts study/learning and going out/sarging.

I'll be getting off my soapbox now.
Also here is a link that we can use, its on Cold Reading. Style recommened it saying its the best Cold Reading book he had read. So check it out, I'm reading it right now, http://www.scribd.com/doc/23348/Tradecraft-The-Art-And-Science-Of-Cold-Reading
Hope you guys can use it.

So sounds like everyone either works or has school during the week. Well let me know how everyone's Sat & Sun looks so we can get the ball rolling.

Lastly here is some info, I'll be 27 next month, I grew up on the NE side and now reside on the NW side. I'm in it to have a better selection of women to choose from and to improve myself most of all. I just recently end a long term relationship with a great woman, but we were in different places. She was ready to settle down and thats just not me right now. I tried it out for a while, but I gotta be true to myself and I wasn't ready. I work evenings so that I go out any night of the week and still be able to sleep in. Well get back everyone and drop a little info about yourself.

Later

Lion Tamer

Endric

09-13-2007, 08:25 AM

Is it wrong to be excited? Because I'm excited! Since you work evenings, guess the meetup tonight is out. I imagine GNO will still be up to something tonight though. If you guys PM me Ill get you our cell info. Monkey, any chance of coming out for a meet/greet tonight? Also, anyone heard from the First two posters?

If you don't know what a PM is, its Private Message and located in the top right of the webpage. I say PM for cell stuff because the forums are google searchable. Do you guys do the myspace thing? They have private groups with forums on there which would make it easier for the personal stuff we don't want everyone seeing. http://www.myspace.com/mysticxsab for me.

Locks

09-13-2007, 09:33 AM

Great job on that HB8 Leo (don't mind my laziness). Most AFCs would have jetted up those stairs as soon as she had beckoned them.

I just recently finished 'The Game' and read 'Mystery Method' a little bit before. I'm definitely excited about the possibilities and agree that it would be a great idea to get together. Personally, I find Approach Anxiety to be a killer and it would be great to have a decent sized network to push me when I'm hesitant. But yeah... hit us up!

Monkey

09-13-2007, 06:03 PM

The "make-over gambit" is funny stuff Fortune. Glad to see other folks working the day-game, props.

I'm 28 and on the NW side. I work days so I have to reserve the club/bar scene for the weekends. Like Lion Tamer, having balance is important to me, and I have a lot of balls in the air right now. Just studying game for fun. If I get the oneitis, oh well, but I don't think it's gonna happen :-P

A weekend meetup would work best for me.

Cheers,
Monkey

xFortunex

09-13-2007, 08:28 PM

damn....well....today, wasnt such a good day for myself.....ive got...no day game...whatsoever......im mediocre at club game.....however its a fact im epic when it comes to strip-game. But its like...i dont go to stripclubs that much anymore.....i feel like....so stupid, im at least trying....but its not enough. Today rocked for the other fellas...each of which number closed....and i basically rode the coat-tails...and i realize thats what im doing...they expect me to be this epic guy,seeing as to how hype i was about it when we started....*SIGH* expectations.....i see these guys getting better, and im being left behind.....i guess its cuz i feel like im being rushed...even though im not. Ive got to study some more. I realized today that ive got a WHOLE lot of catch up to do.

im looking forward to hanging with u guys....so i can progress.....

you know what....i just had an epiphany....while re-reading Tamer's post.....he's right...i, like him, have nothing to prove...Im in it to get better, and thats what im doing....it maybe slower than the rest...but its progression none-the-less. I guess im putting too much pressure on myself...and if my wings dont see that.....then i guess ill learn it on my own. Im just going to learn as much as I can...and sarge when i can....and ill get better.....hey it took style a year to be the greatest...i cant expect myself to be up there anytime soon.

Thanks for reading my vent lol......im sure your'e all upset cuz it wasnt a field report.

btw....we're all gettin together tomorrow for our friends return from idaho...and saturday, we're all going out too......SO...i expect to hear from you gents....before then so we can meet.

-Fortune

Endric

09-13-2007, 10:26 PM

Field: Reeeed Robin! (yummmmmm)

So, Locks and I pretty much made today an all day hangout. Today started like every other Thursday or Tuesday for Locks and I. We both have early class at 8:00 am, so we always have a pre-campus meetup so that we arrive at the same time. We usually chat for a bit before riding to campus, but we we're running a bit late so we just left. Anyway, in class I sit next to this slightly-goth latino chick. Id say shes a good HB8, but my personal tastes in women make her an HB9. While she seems to dig my vibe, laughs at all my jokes and wants my attention during class and right after, shes definitely head over heels for this guy. "He's so hot" is said several times a class. Anyway, definitely friend zoned here, but it messes with my game because she flusters me. Need to work on that.

Thats my only class for the day, so I usually go chill outside after and talk to this redhead, HB7. The first day I opened her to get with her. Everyday since has been just to practice my shit on her. Let me tell you, this is the ultimate bitch chick/shit tester. I used this gambit, drawn from real life, "So one of my best friends got engaged a month and a half ago, and hasn't told me or any of his closests friends. He just told some random friend we hang out with like every full moon, and thats how we found out.I want to talk to him about it, but I'm not sure how to approach it. What would you do?" This is a killer gambit, has yet to fail me... except on this chick. She replied, "Well, since you're a little girl, you can either cry about it some more or you could grow a pair." So yeah, totally wasn't expecting anything like that, so she blew me out of the frame. But like I said, I keep talking to her because it is awesome practice. Fortune smiled on my ego today though, and she wasn't around. This gave me the opportunity to open confidence booster sets, sets that I open because I know I don't want these chicks so I can literally 'not give a fuck.' These aren't important enough to discuss, but I opened 2 1sets and a 2set. They all went well, lasting 5-7 minutes each. Highly recommend doing this for AA practice, social value, and confidence boosting.

Locks and I met up after his 2nd class at my house since his 3rd was canceled and he has an hour break after the 3rd for lunch. We checked the boards for you guys and decided to roll to Burgerking and then Rolling Oaks mall. Just a heads up, yes, Rolling Oaks DOES still suck. Couple of minor opens in here, no stacking of material though. Nothing big. Gathered some peacocking stuff (Locks got a bracelet and a necklace) while waiting to meet a chick from his class (she didn't show, flake). Locks went to his last class while I went to pick up some new shoes (long overdue).

After meeting back up we went to Hobby Lobby in the forum to rustle up some more peacocking gear. We thought it would be a cool peacock/group association to each wear a jewelry item related to each other. We decided on going with little vials and putting colored stones in them. Locks got Black, Fortune got Blue, we got a Green one for our friend returning from Idaho, and Red for me. Fortune and I made necklaces; Locks and our Idaho friend are getting bracelets. Midway through picking out these items, Locks wanders off from me and opens a worker from the store. If you like short latina chicks with thick thighs and a nice ass (not a fat chick), this girl is an HB8 at least. I'm not there for most of the conversation as I know Locks can handle it. I do however position myself in the adjoining aisle so I can listen in and present myself for a wing mission if needed. When I hear "So you just expect me to hang out with any guy that wants to come start conversation with me?" I move in. I don't know if he got boxed out of the set because I can't see her body language, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to just go in. I walk right up to her as if I was customer with a question, "Sorry to bother you, but I was just wondering if... I started conversation with you, would you hang out with me." Which got a huge laugh. I stayed for what I deemed was just long enough to acclimate and give Locks Social Value, and then left. (I'll get Locks to write up a report explaining his side and how the set went since I wasn't there for 90% of it.) Won't even tell you how it ended (intense suspense!).

We met up with Fortune at Borders and made our jewelry and then set off to Red Robin. First thing we noticed when we got there were the three females hostesses... YES! THIS ROCKS! ...who were all 16 upon closer inspection. Fuck. So we get seated and await our waitress. I'd recently read a Waitress gambit that I wanted to try out (might have been in the game) so I prayed we'd get a female server. We did. HB6 with a smile that made her an HB7. The first thing she did was blather on about something we couldn't make out clearly, and finished by saying "or I'm just a stupid bad waitress." Said it jokingly though. For gambit sharing purposes, you are supposed to ignore her at first then pretend like you just saw her. Pointless here because she didn't care if we had noticed her, she just wanted to randomly talk about whatever she was talking about. She took our drink orders sans Locks who was talking to an old friend. When she left, I asked fortune who's set it was, and he said go for it. When she came back with the order I gave her a wink and said thanks (part of the gambit), she asked about our appetizer needs and we said we needed to ask our third but she should come back often in anticipation of our reply (cocky funny).

Endric

09-13-2007, 10:27 PM

Timing didn't smile upon us and fate decided to take advantage of the glaring flaw in our team game that we have verbally acknowledged for quite awhile now but haven't done anything about. We need to have a way to communicate in front of targets/sets that this is a given person's pull. Locks, arriving at the table at the exact time the waitress comes back immediately starts into the routine. To my horror (since it was my set and not because my buddy is getting a chick) she is biting hook line and sinker. So many IOIs are rolling out that I think he's channeled Mystery himself. I'm blown out of the set. Fortunately, my friends tell me that I am a natural AMOG, so I can attempt to pull myself back in as Locks will understand after we explain in a private moment. (This is however a problem with my group game as I tend to do it without knowing I am doing it, causing issues for my wings. Mixed blessing.) I add subtle negs into Locks conversation and wait for her to begin to leave to continue the waitress gambit. But as I speak up to continue, Fortune chimes in with, "Oh, you know you'll be back." Blasted out of the set again. The 2nd phase of the gambit is to use that fact that she has to come back becuase its her job to tease her and build attraction. "You know, I can see it in your eyes. Theres a twinkle. You'll be back." Then you call her a stalker when she comes back and say something like you must really think we're cool/like us. Back to Fortune, it was an accident, he was just going with the flow of things. It's ok, I tell myself; you can still get back in. When she comes back for the entree orders Locks continues the set and I pretend to slowly fall asleep. When it comes around to me, I'm going to wake up and say "Oh man, sorry. I was just really bored by the waitress."

All goes to plan. "Oh man guys, my bad, I was..." Loud noise erupts from side of room. Its happy birthday time. Fuck. 10 wait staff yell at some year older a rousing chant and happily laugh at my horrible luck. Blown out of set. At this point I'm like, screw it, at least Locks can grab her digits. But after some orders and subtle conversation about how she knows someone must have worked here before, I order a special sauce by name to tease her and I feel like I'm back in. When she comes with more refills I tell her that I'm sleepy and it is now her job to keep me entertained. Every time she comes over she needs to tell us a joke and a fun fact. Gooooo hoops. She fails to ever deliver these demands in the following visits, but always addresses the issue saying shes thinking but just can't come up with anything. Fortune gets up to go to the bathroom near the end of the meal and she decides to sit with us in our booth for awhile. She chose my side. :P Small talk takes place here, and when Fortune arrives she gives us her first Joke and fun fact. Fortune and Locks both wing neg her a bit which helps bring her back for a much longer stay in the booth and details about her life and her asking us questions about ours.

At some point some comment she made allowed me to say something along the lines of "Well ya know, its ok, not everyone can go out and party as well as we can." She replies by saying she knows and that she has no social life since she graduated college. We're gold and I go for the allusion to a close. "Then you should find cool people to hang out with." I should is her reply. When she comes for our ticket payments, I tell her that since she wants to hang out, she should write her number on my ticket. She says ok and smiles. She gets distracted at the register and I know she didn't write her number. Bad sign. Guess I blew it. But she keeps coming back for more conversation, so I figure that it was possibly just an accident. I wouldn't come back after I got my number asked for and rejected the person. So I cocky funny one last time and say, "I know it sucks since it already went through payment and everything, but I think you messed up the tickets." I search through the piles and look at each one. "Yeah, NONE of these have your number."
"Oh yeah..." quickly grabs a pen and fills out the side of a receipt and places it in front of Locks and me. Final WTF moment of the night occurs as Locks and I share a look of, who's number is that? The answer comes in a few moments as she stays in the booth to chill and starts wadding up paper and throwing it at me to get my attention. It was mine.

I didn't know where to fit this in the story, so I'm adding it here. Fortune totally pro'd it up by not telling her his name and actiing like she upset him and needed to earn it. She was after it ALL night until checkout where she triumphantly found it on his Credit card.

Going off this high we move to Starbucks in hopes Fortune can seal a number and make it a 3/3. Fortune, is in my opinion the one who will eventually surpass us all in gaming. He flows in the field when he gets moving. It's actually a beautiful thing to watch, like he isn't even trying. Maybe he isn't. Casting off is the problem, I believe. Starbucks is majorly TP so I go to the bathroom and Fortune goes next door to Baskin Robins. By the time I meet up with him, hes got the girl behind the counter chasing after him and qualifying herself to him. Shes his! Shes 16. He doesn't want it. But we go ahead and count it because she thought he was in high school still due to miscommunication. We wait outside Starbucks in hopes a set comes in and near us. A 2set walks in and comes outside, sitting near us. Fortune opens, and it goes alright, but we listen in on their conversations when they start discussing boyfriend troubles. It isn't our style to girl steal, so the night is over for us.

-Endric

PS. Looking forward to the meetup. I'd appreciate comments on the FR.

Lion Tamer

09-14-2007, 02:29 AM

Its funny when I read everyone's posts it seems like I'm looking into a mirror. Not trying to sound corny or anything, but to be able to relate with other people who have the same issues and self-doubt that I do, brings me some piece of mine. To know that there are others out there like me who understand they don't know it all and want to better themselves. I'm excited too.

Locks we all know that approach anxiety is a never ending ruthless bitch. Mystery even said that is never goes away. Well to hear Mystery say that you can take it as really bad news or really good news. Bad news is it never goes away. You can let it overtake you and control you and keep you an AFC for life. Or you can look at it as good news and think to yourself that the greatest PUA's have approach anxiety and its a normal feeling. Your no different from any other guy, everybody gets it. Now its how you choose to handle it that seperates the AFCs from the PUAs. I'll leave you with a quote from The Game, former Bodybuilder now California Gov........

"Those who push themselves, and are willing to face pain, exhaustion, humiliation, rejection, or worse, are the ones who become champions."
-Arnold S.

You remind me of who I was a short time ago Fortune. Constantly berating myself for not doing everything right, or not making the most out of every opportunity I got. I put more pressure on myself than anyone ever could, most of the time unnecessarily. Since then the one thing that has helped me more than anything was changing that voice inside my head. It sounds dumb but you know what I'm talking about. Listen to the voice in your head, is it positive or negative most of the time. Do you talk down to yourself? Really listen to how you talk to yourself and make it positive all the time. Even if you made a mistake or an ass out of yourself, always keep that voice in you positive and uplifting. If you do this, you and everyone around you will notice a difference in you. From your energy, to the way you talk, to the way your presence comes off to others. It's something so small but makes a big difference.
Also don't apoligize for venting or not posting a field report. Thats what this place should be about. Helping each other in all aspects of life. Be it women, work, school, or self. Women are a big piece of the pie, but they are not the whole pie.

Endric mucho mas many many many props for stepping in and helping your boy Locks out giving him social value and stepping away to let him do his thing. Now that is everything a wingman is suppose to be. You saw he was in trouble "do you think I just go out with any guy who starts a converstation with me" you step in give him value to ease the situation and noticing that things were going well again you politely eject.
Everyone take notice, thats is how you be a wingman. Know when to step in, know what the situation calls for, know when to eject.
Also good job with the "not everyone can party like us" line. Liked your engaged friend opener and really like the matching pieces of jewelry each with its own personalized color. I bet it really makes you feel like your a part of something.
Noticed how you were wondering how to comminicate non-verbally in front of targets to see who has who. Well I not sure on that. Unless you guys develop some secret signal or key word or phrase to let the others know who your target is. Also you can try and establish it from the beginning, "my set or yours". One person opens the set, the wing or wings then come in later and give him social value. The one who opens then isolates the target to make it clear to the wing who the target is. And next time just switch. Whatever you come up with let me know.

So I got a question for the board, where I work there is quite an abundence of hbs. Now I flirt a little at work, but not much. I always keep in mind "don't shit where you eat". Well everyday gets harder and harder not to try and game some of them. What is stopping me is I know if I game one girl and it goes bad or good I know it will spread like wildfire throughout the place, which could dampen my work environment or chances with some of the other girls. Any advice on how I can run game on girls at work and keep things cool or its not even worth the risk. Be honest let me know your thoughts.
Yes I have a myspace. Had to start a new one, ex hacked my old one so had to delete it and start over. I'll send you a friend request if you have one. Myspace not working right now. As soon as its up I'll send it. PM if I don't send you one.

Finally I just wanted to say to all those who just read and don't post, don't be afraid to share something. Nobody is going to judge you here, its not about that. Its about a group of people with a common goal sharing thoughts, ideas, and experiences from different points of view. Not just to be better with women but to be better at life. You may think your the only one who is having a hard time. Your not.

Lion Tamer

xFortunex

09-14-2007, 10:59 AM

so we meeting up this evening? id be a perfect oppurtunity!!! or hopefully tomorrow.......

Monkey

09-14-2007, 11:59 AM

this sat has actually become full for me. hittin the park in the am and going out with a pivot and maybe a target in the evening. do pms go to email? cause that would be a lot easer to check for me than my phone. which is what ik typin this on. enjoyed everyones posts on my breaktime tho. looking forward to the meet

Monkey

xFortunex

09-14-2007, 12:04 PM

just sent one to you...i think theres a type of email on here......thats what it seems. lemme know if u get it.

Locks

09-14-2007, 12:52 PM

Endric pretty much covered the course of our day. If you guys were wondering a bit about how I got the number of the chick working at Hobby Lobby, I'll clarify a bit.

We were in there doing our thing and I wasn't really even planning on sarging at that time, but out of nowhere a cute and thick li'l HB8 latina pops out of nowhere and disappears further down the aisle. Now the three second rule had already passed at this point and, like I said, I wasn't planning on sarging, so I just kinda dismissed the situation. So later, I was looking for a particular item and wanted to ask one of the workers if they even carried it. I then decided that instead of asking just anybody, I'd ask HBlatina just to get a closer look and see what's up.

So, I found the aisle she was in and asked her if they carried nylon cords used for Chinese knotting. I knew she didn't know what it was and she inquired a bit. I suggested that whenever she had to time, to run by Borders and check out the book. She said that she doesn't like to just read books and I negged her on that fact. I then inquired into the kinds of things she likes to do, and she informed me that she has no social life and does nothing but work since she just moved here from Vegas. Busted on her for downgrading to San Antonio (I'm sure everyone has their own opinions about this city), and suggested she should just go up and talk to people, using our current conversation as an example, considering we were WAY off topic from store products. At this point Endric rolls in and hits me with some social proof which treats her to a nice laugh. I can tell she's very entertained at this point. Afterward I fluff a bit, and when a coworker of hers comes in and starts chatting with her, I just walk away without a word and return to Endric. We do a little more shopping and she happens to pass by several times, which allows me to accuse her of stalking us. At this point End reminds me that I need to close and so I go over to do so... again a coworker shows up, which could be a possible interruption and I and I tell her I'll be back, leaving her hanging. I give it a little more time and return then offer to help her out with a social situation by inviting her to hang out with us. She asked what kinda things we liked to do, and I told her that usually we're busy doing things in our lives, but we do get together at times and do various things, which includes a party on the 22nd. So she responds with a "I don't care." (which I'm sure would have destroyed any AFC then and there) to which I retorted, "Well if you don't care, I don't care." and did the rock back. She then shit tests me again and says, "I haven't even memorized my number." So I bust on her for that and treat her like a little kid. "OK... I'll walk you through it... first you take out your phone, and then you dial this number... then you hit talk." So I scored the digits and walked away. Over the course of the night, we text and she asks if it's cool for her to call. I make her wait and told her I'll let her know after I got home and showered. I never did get back to her that night since I fell asleep, but I ended up seeing her that morning. lol.

It was an interesting experience, and taught me a lot about plowing through shit tests. You just can't accept their frame of mind. Well... gotta head to work now. I'll check up with you guys later, and I'm looking forward to meeting you all. :)

Locks

09-14-2007, 07:18 PM

xFortunex

09-14-2007, 08:27 PM

crunkaliscious

Endric

09-16-2007, 05:42 PM

Sorry I didn't post much this weekend. Busy. Lion Tamer, where do you work? Mainly, whats the environment like?

PS. Totally have a date tonight.

xFortunex

09-17-2007, 12:36 AM

well......not a complete close....but got her myspace.....she offered it....and actually...she opened me......she also took pictures of myself and my group...but ill post a full field report tomorrow.

Monkey

09-17-2007, 02:41 PM

Ok, me and some friends went out Saturday night. We were in a big set as it was a friend's birthday. The birthday girl turned out to be an excellent pivot. Upon meeting she introducted me to all the girls within the immediate area and DHV'd me like crazy, I thought maybe too much, but apparently there can't be too much praise when it comes from another woman. I found my target, an HB7 and opened by saying that she had kicked me (she was sitting on a stool, and it was more like her foot brushed against mine, but whatever). She apologized and I told her that its ok, because it was hard to miss her big feet, negging her. She quickly shit tested by saying my drink looked empty and I should get the next round. I held fast by not buying any drinks and suggested she buy me one, because I never buy my own at a club. Her response was that it must be nice to get by on looks alone (i saw this as an IOI). After fluffing a bit the conversation got boring so I went upstairs with some of the other guys to sagre but had no success. Returned back after like 20 mins and started going after the target again. Had some light kino going and she said she was hot, so I blew on her neck and kissed it. She fed me ice. All is going well (couldn't escalate too much because we were still at the table with everyone else). We start talking about where to go afterwards, and damnit if she doesn't have to take her drunk male roomate (who has been starting shit all night, but not with me) back to their place. It's like 1:45 and I don't wanna be up all night so I go for the #close, and get it. Then I get a kiss goodbye (cheek). I figure I'm set up great for a day two. But I texted her today saying that it was really fun meeting her and asked if she got home without more drama. No response yet (its been like 4 hours). Wtf? Oh well, I'm just happy to be out of the slump. Had been trying online dating on craigslist and had a few leads and talked to one on the phone. I thought we shared similar interests as we talked for like 40 minutes. I texted her two days later and haven't received a response in email or text. Again, wtf? maybe I was too cocky on the phone. I've read that you have to be cocky at first then go for comfort/rapport, and I wasn't very strong with that. Oh well.

---

To respond to lion tamer, be careful with the work girls man. If you have a job you care about that is. It really causes tension and EVERYBODY will know your business. People just love to gossip about office romance. But hey, if you're thinking about quitting, or work somewhere huge (like usaa) and she is in a totally different department, I would say go for it if she is a hottie. That said, I have been fired for dating on the job before. Our relationship wasn't the reason I was fired, but we were both called into the office at the same time and we were both laid off. So take heed, I will never shit where I eat again (unless she's like a HB9 or 10 ;-)

Congrats on everyone's recent success. Let's keep working it and get better every day.

- Monkey

xFortunex

09-17-2007, 06:37 PM

Ok....like i promised, im back with the report. So yesterday, End had a date with a chick he sarged in one of his classes. a good hb8 easily. So we go out to flying saucer for drinks, and we end up moving outside, so a few of us could smoke. Although while sarging, i try to stay away from it, unless she is. ANYWHO, so....we eventually get on the subject of PUA.....cuz our friend totally could pass for mystery if he grew his hair out, and got maybe a tad skinnier. mind you, SHE starts this conversation, and you know we get hype...and we say we watch the show, and she says she cant believe that it works...but it does. So, i break what End i were both screaming in our head...."what would say if I told you I was a PUA?"

she then negs me by saying....i cant see it, but she can see it in End....obviously seeing as to how he sarged her, and was now on Day 1 with this chick. So.....im thinking....hmmm...im not coming off confident enough.

*pull out cig, and begin to light*

HB7 walks up....

"excuse me....can I bum one of your cigs?"
i immediately go into the 5 questions game...if i win, she buys me another beer, if she wins ill give her a cig. She agrees.

"ok, were going to start, are you ready?"
"yes"
"ok, you lost."

lol. She then gets upset and demands to play again, i refuse, saying that theres no point because she already lost, so i offer her my 3/4s smoked cigarette as a consolation prize for her losing, and she gets upset saying she deserves one for even playing the game....and because im making her, quote, "jump through hoops." to get a cig. So, i back down a little to build her up, and give her a cig...but she stills owes me a beer. So, she introduces herself, and tells us her life story...shes 31, from chicago, divorce....yadda yadda yadda....2 kids?

*record stops*
*chokes on water*
"you said you have...2 kids?"

now, im a young cat, 22...and im not ready for kids, i work with em, and im NOT trying to go home to more...but then i remembered she was only in town till 2sday, so i figured what the hell, i go back to building comfort, and we introduce ourselves, but i say i play games with drunk women for beers as my occupation. So.....we talk i build kino lightly by tapping her knee (she was sitting next to me) as i told a joke and laughed....she talks about her myspace, and i took that as a sign for me to ask....but before i could...she gives it to us....so, she leaves and joins her friend....we go back out our conversation.....and jon's 8 says...

"ok......now I believe you guys are the real deal."

i shoulda had her kiss my cheek before she left....but while i regret this....out of the corner i see the chick pull out a camera.....i look over and she has it aimed at me....i was like....i dont take photos for free sweetheart....thatll be 5 bucks....she laughs and says pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? so, she takes a pic of us, then has another guy take a pic of us while she sits with us, and she claims its going on her myspace.....so...ill be checkin it out sooner or later.....

it was a good day...

OH FUCK....we actually saw a natural in the field last night also...ill let End tell it, cuz iunno if he thinks its even worth talking about.

-Fortune

xFortunex

09-17-2007, 06:42 PM

Well, Ive been in a work relationship....we didnt get very far, because it kinda died and just fizzled off, needless to say....if you get in a relationship, and youre SURE that itll work...then by all means go for it....but dont forget, if it goes sour....she'll be there....if theres any awkwardness from a mistake made by you or her....she's gonna be there.....and if youre just sick of seeing her all the time....she'll be there....OH OH OH...if you mess up at all....shell be there to rub your face in it as soon as you start work....aint nothing wrong with it...but just be prepared for the following tension if it does work....i mean, all i wanted to do was jus get away from her...id DRED going to work...cuz she wasnt going to quit, and neither was i...so i couldnt WAIT till work was over, till we both moved on....she's still there....and so am I, its cool, cuz im sure if i sarged her a bit i could sack her...but what are you going to do? Its up to you Tames....just tred softly and try not to mess it up lol. <3 youuuuuuuuuu.....

-Fortune

Monkey

09-18-2007, 04:46 PM

Well, I finally got a text back, right at 5:30 (maybe she was holed up in work or something). And I'm chattin with the other chick in IM right now, so I'm feelin much better :-D

Lates

xFortunex

09-20-2007, 06:19 PM

i havent sarged in a whole week....not even approached.....

who's fault is it? mine.....but i feel like im dying....

Lion Tamer

09-20-2007, 09:38 PM

Hey bros, I was meaning to post sooner but I have been out of it lately. In short I've been having some post breakup guilt. Hurting anybody never feels good or goes without some guilt. Well enough of that.

Monkey way to run that girl at the party and not let her treat you like an AFC.

Fortune way to step up under pressure and show that hb your a PUA. If it was me I might of cracked.

Well like Fortune haven't been out in about a week. Last time I went out I ran into that hb8 I wrote about in my first field report. I wasn't going to acknowledge her but she stopped me. She was all over me just like before, until I got to comfortable and failed her shit tests. She ask me to go meet her friends and I went with out even thinking about making them to come meet me. Also I'm not proud of this but her friends ask me to turn around so I guess they could check me out. So I did no questions asked thinking to myself that I was getting social value by her friends checking me out, but when I think back on it I was being treated like some dumb show pony or something. Last she asked for my phone to put her number in it and I told her I would need something from her first. She asked what and I said a kiss. Here is where shit got real weird. We go back and forth arguing playfully at first but then this goes on for a while and by the end we are fighting like a couple who has been together for too long. I end up giving in and just giving her my phone and she puts her number in it. I did it because she said she would look like a slut if she kissed me in front of her friends and she would feel like one. Plus I was tired of arguing. And yes I know, I know, I should of just walked away when she said she couldn't. It was in my mind the whole time, but my feet just wouldn't budge.
Well that was a week ago and after all that I still haven't called her. I just feel like a chump for not handling the situation differently and giving in. So I'm not gonna call. At least I got some good experience on what not to do.
Thanks bro's for all the feedback on my work situation. Thats how I felt and I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else. It's such a shame though cause some of them are so good. Ah well, what can I do.
So has anybody met up yet. I know we keep talking about it. I might be going to San Marcos this weekend to party, but if I don't I let you guys know so we can set something up.

Lion Tamer

xFortunex

09-20-2007, 10:56 PM

well tamer, i just got your myspace message....

but in regards to your post....you did give in....but it didnt matter, she was already yours from the get-go....SHE stopped YOU...an AFC move woulda been stopping her and going back for a second try. She wanted your number, or wanted to give you hers....so no matter what you did except totally noob out, youre in for the gold. I DO have a bit of concern about arguing....i thought next you woulda said that you lost your oppurtunity right there. but nope.....LOCK and KEY tames...LOCK and KEY....lol. Proud of you...you closed....took you about a week...but you closed it. Dont look down on yourself....youre just out of practice...ima make some mistakes too.....since i havent sarged in a week.

ALSO, no, none of us have met up.....sadly. Honestly, i think we should...i wanna know a lot of rafcs...and get to mpua together....plus...id like to experience everything...and everyones expertice. Thanks on the props...btw. We should be going to a party sat. night....and as for tomorrow night...iunno whats goin on...but id like to do something.

lemme know.

Monkey

09-21-2007, 10:08 AM

just when I thought the board was dead it springs back to life. eveeyone needs to stop moping. heh. its no good to beat urself down about stuff. work on that inner game. i'm workin one lead from a personal and I'm going to fire off another text to that chick I met at the club to maybe set up a day 2 this weekend. her friend says she 'eats men alive' so I am up for the challenge! :P

I agree with fortune that we should meet up. I think it would be cool to share ideas and openers and such. I'll be checkin tha board every now and then

maxtall

09-21-2007, 08:08 PM

Hi,

There is a place called meetup.com. We could post meeting times and
places there. Or I guess someone could just PM the place and time to all
who post here?

Maxtall

Endric

09-22-2007, 04:27 PM

Hail, Maxtall! Yeah, we definitely need to get a meet up going, even if its just meeting. I'm down for something on Sunday if anyone wants to. Btw, LT, you should call her anyway. Not calling would be afc. We call even the flakes. Period. Thats what the book says to do. If nothing comes from it, you are in no worse a position than you already are. It's not akward to call and be ignored. It puts the ball in her court. If she doesn't respond, thats her missed opportunity, not yours. We have plenty of other chicks to court, hotter and more intelligent chicks. Always think like that and not worry about what she might think about you. The fact is you're awesome, and its HER job not yours to make her realize that. If she doesn't someone better than her will.

xFortunex

09-22-2007, 07:17 PM

so....i think sunday we should all meet up at starbucks.....

quarry area sound good for everyone? quarry starbucks sometime in the afternoon/evening about 6 ok? We can all meet up, sit outside, and since its a good time of the day, itll be pretty target rich in case we DO feel like sarging. So....if thats good for everyone....then pm me, or if we should change venue pm me....just let me know is what im trying to say....SEE YA THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kspriggs

09-25-2007, 06:52 PM

Hello,

I recently posted a craiglist add about a meetup in San Antonio. I've gotten about four people interested. One of them forwarded me to this site.

I could meet either Saturday or Sunday. Let me know soon and I'll let all the craigslist prospects know.

Endric

09-26-2007, 12:09 PM

I think it'd be best to just get them on this site. Its the official one, so they should do it anyway. Craigslist is a bit too public for my tastes. Anyway, Monkey and the GNO crew met up last sunday, looking forward to meeting the rest of you guys.

Monkey

09-26-2007, 01:25 PM

This is official? Coulda fooled me, heh. Yeah, sundays meet went well. I didn't know what to expect from meeting other 'puas' but it was kewl. The GNO crew is a good bunch. I need more peacock to roll with them properly ;) Looking forward to doing it again in a more target-rich area. LT, where were ya dawg?

kspriggs

09-27-2007, 09:02 AM

So, we are settled on Sunday. I just have a few questions.

1. When and where?
2. Is this just a meeting to discuss ideas or are we going out? Sunday isn't really a big night for most social places. However, I guess there truly are women everywhere.

I am planning to head out Friday night- might hit the Riverwalk, or some smaller clubs. The country dance halls aren't bad either- real diverse age range. I'm 33. Other guys I've talked to on craigslist are as old as 39.

What is everyone's age? What age range of women are you into?

Kevin

xFortunex

09-28-2007, 06:42 PM

wow....2 kevins and 2 Robs? goodness gracious...how WILL we remember these names? I see our member basis gradually growing. its exciting. Hmmmm....i agree with monkey.....sunday was fun. i was also wondering....where's maxtall and tamer? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? lol. Wished we coulda had a more awesome time...although it was fun. Anywho, no on kev.......we already met up with monkey...but if theres another meeting, you choose a time and place, and hopefully we can all make it out again.

Endric

09-29-2007, 12:16 PM

Yeah, good idea. You guys put up a spot, and we'll make sure at least someone from GNO comes to represent the group (probably all of us). Btw Monkey, the chick who came to eat with us says that her friend that we were talking about would totally dig you if you'd be interested.

Monkey

09-29-2007, 06:24 PM

perhaps we could just meet up at the same place/time again? sunday afternoons are usually good for me.

i'm meeting up tonight with that chick that i was texting at the last gathering (we have yet to meet up for a day two, i think it has been like 3 weeks now, lol), so we will see how that goes. i'll be puttin my game to the test :-P

endric: that sounds kew. from what your friend was saying i thought it might be a good fit ;-) pm me if you need my myspace or cell.

kspriggs

09-29-2007, 07:08 PM

Which Starbucks? and what time?

By the way, what does GNO stand for?

Kevin

xFortunex

09-30-2007, 02:10 AM

GNO stands for Guys Night Out. A running joke we had since we were 18.....which eventually became our motto. Of course, we dont say that to the ladies. Its the quarry starbucks at 6 pm.

And to answer your question, from previous posts....GNO is 22. All of us, and Monkey is...i wanna say 28? Theres really no age difference. I guess you could say we are all babies in the field....as in were all beginners starting off. Anywho.......I have a brief field report.....

So tonight started off slow, we didnt know what we were going to do. So...we end up calling our friend to see what he was up to, and he was having a beer at his brother's bday party....at hooligans on the NE side of town. SO, we head out...because theres this hot chick i used to work with who frequents the establishment, so......we end up going thinking one of us will close her. We get there, and im introduced to this beautiful (whom i think is brunette because of the lighting...mental note.....never make a facial or minimal feature congratulatory in a dimly lit area) red head, and my friends girlfriend opens her FOR me.....a flawless pivot open, so i simply converse with her for a few minutes, get bored and rolled off.....

little did I know.....this redhead turns out to have fucked one of the bouncers in the club......in the parking lot.....5 minutes after i leave.......if i sarged her....that woulda been MINE!.....not saying parking lot action...but whatever action woulda been plenty enough for me....she was genuinely interested in the little stacking routine i did.......so.....im pretty sure i coulda had it...DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! the regret of not following through...i think im going to start sarging just for the hell of it now.....-_-.....it could lead to so much more than a snore of a story.......

Endric

09-30-2007, 02:16 AM

Totally hype about tomorrow. Haven't sarged all week cuz of Halo 3. Don't disappoint me fellas.

Monkey

09-30-2007, 08:18 AM

yeah, i'm 22 as well :-P

just wanted to post a bit of a warning, and maybe get some opinions. i'm thinking some stuff from the show/book shouldn't ever be used, heh. its getting crazy saturated.

for instance, last night i was talking to a mutual friend at the club, and she said something to the effect of "hey, you should buy me a drink" so of course i give the canned response of "buy me a drink and we'll see." she instantly comes back with "hey now, don't try that pickup artist crap on me, it's not gonna work" :-o i stayed quiet for a second, and then she talked about that particular episode for a bit and i said something to the effect of, "well, why DO guys have the social responsibility to buy the drinks, blah blah.." and the subject magically dropped.

later, i'm chatting up my target, and we were discussing pickup lines (of all things, hehe) and she said something like "i cant believe this one guy, came up on me and said <i forget the line> ... i told him, dude, i WATCH the pickup artist" inside i was thinking "ah, crap" but i figured i'd have some fun. i leaned in and smelled her hair and said it smelled like fruit. she giggled and said it must be her shampoo. oblivious, lol.

so I dunno. i worry about some of this stuff being too blatantly obvious to the ladies. i guess maybe having some unique routines/gambits would pick up the slack.

see you all at the coffeeshop

Endric

09-30-2007, 03:33 PM

As a rule, I never use canned material. Period. Cept the 5 questions game, but that wasn't on the show (cept the title, but nobody is gonna notice since they didnt actually show it). Canned material to me is fake and now weak because of the show. Come up with your own stuff, it will work just as well and lets you flow out of it easier.

Endric

09-30-2007, 08:58 PM

So tight that nobody showed up. Sweet. Shout outs to Monkey for making the 2nd round though. Had 3 closes.

xFortunex

09-30-2007, 11:19 PM

well, to start off, Props to Monkey for gettin out with us....hot stuff....hoooooooot stuff....anywho, we go out at starbucks to wait, and end up group sarging this engaged chick.......of course we didnt know at the time, and we get her myspace...the TRUE example of not being interested in your target....SO....that being said, i honestly would only holla at her for her body.....id hate to ever say that about her.....but while talking with her....the only thing i could think was.....heyyyyyyyyy......at least she looks like she'd be great in bed....but then again...she was so boring that maybe she'd be boring in bed too...*sigh*......we endric myspace closes her. gg endric.

So we end up waiting an hour for a no show...and so the three of us head to borders to look around for a few more targets....nothing great after about 20 min. So.....we go back to starbucks to see if that chicks still there and sure enough she left....and in her place endric spies a two-set.....as we part our ways (monkey leaves to go sleep off his amazing close last night).....endric and I talk in the lot....and I convince him to go for it.....so we go in, grab another coffee and water and go out and sit at the table next to em......and as I sit down.....one of the chicks make eye contact with me....now i know that this is endrics set.....but i cant pass it up...give a slight heyyyy.....get a hey and a smile, so we go back to our conversations, and then the dead air thats between the 2 groups cause me to go into the "why do you think my friend didnt tell us about his engagement" gambit/opener.....which in turn got them interested, and we pretty much stacked and comfort built until they started to do the its about time for us to go, but b4 they go, endric asks his target which local bands he should listen to, and for her to write em down, because he wont remember, so he hands her a pen and note-pad.

So she goes at it...and her friend is helping...so while they're not focused, he leans to me and asks....."i dont really know how to close this without it being awkward...." which in all honesty was going to happen....cuz there were a lot more people around us...and staring at us because we were feeding starbucks off of our energy....ANYWHO.....i help endric out and use the "think of something creative" gambit. Which works flawlesly, and we end up getting another close....this time number style.

So...we go back, and end up meeting with locks and head to Red Robin on our side of town. So......we walk in..its dead cuz A. its sunday night. and B. cuz its like...30 min. till close....however....a girl recognizes me from like....4 years ago, whom is now 18....sexy as shit....and most importantly.....legal. SO.........she comes over to us....and re-introduces herself....and first thing i do...hand her the phone to put in the number.....which she does....easiest...close.....ever.............ima call that..."she had a crush on me from before she was legal, which transfered over to the next time she saw me number close." lol....a bit long....but i doubt thatll happen again. ANYWHO.....3 closes in a single night for my boy Endric....props to him...for a drought we're doing a lot better than we expected huh?

kspriggs

10-01-2007, 09:51 AM

I read some of the posts about the bookstore missions and Starbucks. I've tried to meet girls in bookstores too. However, there are two big problems. Most of the girls I see there are too young (high school or college age, and my range is 25-35). Also, there just aren't that many girls there. If you can meet a girl at a bookstore, then chances are she'll have interesting things to talk about.

Here's my list of better places to meet women (sarge).

1. Country dance halls. Both Cowboys and Midnight Rodeo have plenty of gorgeous girls. Another advantage is that you have a real diverse age range there. If you know how to dance, then this is a big plus. You don't have to be great, but just have a knowledge of the basic steps. The only big negative is if you don't know how to dance. This will immediately turn a girl off if she wants to dance with you.

2. Luna Jazz Club. This small, cozy place is one of my favorite places in San Antonio to meet women. It has dim lighting, the music is not too loud, and there's a lot of different kinds of girls. Most girls who go there are a bit more educated/sophisticated. If you aren't that bright, then this isn't the place for you. Girls will pick up on a dumb guy pretty quickly.

3. Churches (Oak Hills and Community Bible). What?? Sarging at a church?? You've got to be kidding?? I'm absolutely serious. Girls at these churches greatly outnumber the guys. Besides, the guys who do attend are usually complete AFCs. I once dated a girl I met at a church function who was absolutely beautiful and had a great job. She hadn't dated in two years! The reason? No one had asked her out. Apparently, all the guys there believe in the "friends first, then God will magically tell me to go after a girl" concept. So, all of the guys wind up in the friend zone (and most are happy just being there). The only downside is that these girls probably won't get too affectionate too quickly. If they do, then they might feel really guilty about it later. Also, you can easily get a reputation as a player. Church groups are like sewing circles and news spreads quickly.

Later,

Kevin

Endric

10-01-2007, 11:27 AM

I like starbucks as a sarge location. It's laid back and I love my day game. That being said, we weren't gonna sarge yesterday. We were supposed to be meeting everyone, which we haven't really had explained why nobody showed up and wasted our time.

xFortunex

10-01-2007, 06:25 PM

never heard of luna and yes I do enjoy jazz. I dont know what youre trying to imply about intelligence, but i guaruntee it doesnt matter. Honestly thats something the game stated...if you remember. That intelligent girls are a lot easier to sarge simply because they are more likely to pay attention. But thanks for assuming we werent smart enough to hang out in your idea of an "intelligent" location.

Cowboys?....and midnight rope a hoe?.........sure........no. See, most of us dont want a one night stand....Id like to establish a relationship....not a STD, which is what you will most likely find in rodeo. And theres too many party girls at cowboys. Not that i wouldnt mind going...im just showing a flaw in your thinking on those locations. BUT.....like i said, yes...im down to go if youd ever like to. I heard wednesdays were the dollar beer night.

HMMM.....OH actually most of my relationships occured at church, simply because growing up.....my family spent a lot of time there....and i was bored 90% of the time....so us kids....then eventually us teens......eventually realized....well...i see you more than the guys/girls at school....why not give it a shot...so im right there with you. LOL....the fact that I go to black church maybe a little different on the gossip scale....cuz if you were going out with one of the girls...EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVERYBODY knew. Not just us teenagers...the adults too. But...no one really cared....most were jealous, as long as you werent dating 2....you never got any flack for it. Most of the girls waited patiently for their turn....even if they were friends.

-Fortune

oh yea......WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

kspriggs

10-01-2007, 07:00 PM

Fortune, I wasn't trying to imply anything about your choice of a location. Coffee shops and bookstores are ok places, but they just don't yield very high numbers. Sometimes they are good places to meet girls. I actually dated a girl for three months that I met at a bookstore. However, I don't think anyone can deny that they don't have lots and lots of girls.

In regard to this weekend's meetup- I asked which Starbucks to meet at in an earlier post and no one gave me an answer.

I'm going to have to disagree about the country dance halls just being a place for party girls. I've always seen a real mix of girls there. Besides, the whole point of these expeditions is to gain confidence when it comes to meeting and picking up women. Does it really matter if the girl is just into sex or a relationship? If you get her number and have her interested in you, then you can screw her, marry her, or just never talk to her.

I've got some contacts from Craiglist about the a PUA group in San Antonio. I'm planning a mission this Friday. Details to be posted soon...

Later,

Kevin

Endric

10-01-2007, 09:50 PM

kspriggs

10-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Sorry about missing the time and place. I must have been skim reading too quickly.

xFortunex

10-01-2007, 11:09 PM

Oh no...i appreciate your redefining of your point. its just that i never really found midnight rodeo, especially, a place to pick up a chick. Iunno..ive just heard so many stories to where im just like.......ew.

cowboys i dont have a problem with....especially seeing as to how i LOVE to dance....youd be amazed at how many girls love a black man who can dance. And i also love jazz.....jus midnight......the stories....lol.

ANYWHO...yea, we were a little upset about wasting time and money going to starbucks for nothing...but in time im sure nobody will even remember. Aside from that...lemme know whats going on, ill try to make it out. Id love to see you guys in action.

Monkey

10-02-2007, 08:14 AM

yeah, i also went out to the coffeeshop, and at first was dissapointed not to find anyone. that is, until fortune and endric showed up. i must have been tired or lazy from my previous night's close so i had 0 approaches (go me!) while these guys were off the hook. 2 closes in no time at all. impressive.

i would have to agree that bookstores and coffeehouses have a lot of the type of women i want to meet, with the energy level i am comfortable with. i had gone out to ropeahoe a few weeks back and had not much success at all. ive never seen such strong bitch shields. heh. maybe its because i didnt have a ten-gallon hat :-P

kspriggs

10-02-2007, 11:27 AM

Hey I just emailed six guys from the Craigslist ad about the next meeting. Here are the details.

When: Friday night at 7:30
Where: Chipotle, Blanco and 1604 (most other restaurants will be super crowded).
Objectives- At dinner, we will just get to know each other and discuss ideas. Afterwards, we will go out to a sarging location. If there are a lot of us, we may go to two different locations and then compare results.

See you later,

Kevin (not my real name by the way- not trying to be deceptive, but being on a PUA discussion board wouldn't be good for my job). My real name is T.J. (don't want to give my last name since it is very uncommon).

xFortunex

10-05-2007, 10:58 AM

so...i think we should know the sarge locations....so we can dress the part. Ive been overdressed before....not that it doesnt help....but id rather feel comfortable.

kspriggs

10-05-2007, 10:55 PM

Nice meeting all of you tonight. Spike and I went to Revolution from 10:30 and stayed till 11:30. The place was pretty and dead and we had better luck at some nearby locations. What did you guys wind up doing?

kspriggs

10-08-2007, 06:40 PM

Next Tuesday (Oct. 16) at 7:00 p.m.. Barnes and Noble at 1604/281 will host a book signing featuring Jenna Bush. This would be a great place to meet a lot of intelligent girls. I'll bet there will be a lot of frustrated Republican babes there. You could always try to run a routine on the President's daughter, but might risk a beating from the secret service. Hope to see some of you there.

P.S. Here's a thought. Jenna's new book is about the same size as the Mystery Method book. Why not just exchange covers and have Jenna sign the Mystery Method book instead? Talk about a conversation piece...

xFortunex

10-09-2007, 09:35 PM

i would be hype on such a great idea....HOWEVER...im in a foul mood. Therefore i shall vent.

We, GNO, are trying to revolutionize the idea of group game. We do have problems...as any AFC would.....simply because we need to work on pretty much every idea the different methods use.

that being said...i know for a fact...that i AM pissed about the following.

1. If you want a set...then YOU open that set. Its your reward....the hardest part is opening. Approach Anxiety is a bitch.....therefore, you get the REWARD of continuing the set....which in my opinion is the easy part, for doing so. Dont complain and whine about someone not doing your work for you.

2. If you want a day 2....YOU follow up on it. Dont have one of your friends set up YOUR day 2. She isnt going to remember your wing....at least not enough to have a phone conversation with, without being creeped out. The fact that she gave you her number...means she wants YOU...and not the rest of us.

3. This is in continuity with the first.....DO NOT....and i mean DO.....NOT.....steal sets. AMOGing is for leading a set....which is YOURS.....if youre a wing....then wing. Its a major DLV if youre not the leader in her eyes....she's going to be all over the leader.....cuz thats what she wants. so WHY....WHY would you do that to your fellow PUA?...........if its your set.....YOU get to lead it. If its not...you get to wing. MOST of ALL....do NOT.....close your wing's set. Thats just added insult. Now see....i could understand if you as the leader of the set just werent building enough comfort and she just naturally goes for your wing.....but stealing the set from the get-go is a different story....of course she's not going to be interested in someone else...if youre obviously the leader in the conversation.

if you wanted her...YOU should have opened her....you DO NOT wait for someone else to do it, and take credit for it in the end....and if thats the case...i no longer want to sarge with you. Grow a pair, and get over your AA.

btw spriggs......who the hell goes to a club at 1030?.......no one is there at 1030....AND you only stayed for a hour. When we arrived to Rev. Room....it was quite target rich. Im glad you did find luck elsewhere however.....congrats....and DAMN....that barnes and nobles idea sounds hot.

-Fortune

kspriggs

10-10-2007, 09:32 AM

Hey Fortune,

I liked reading your post. Is this something that recently happened to you? I'm not sure if you are venting at someone on the list or just talking about situations in general.

If you guys didn't want to go to the club at 10:30, then we could have just met up with you guys later. Some clubs in that area were happening at that time, but just not Revolution Room. We probably should have exchanged numbers. We basically left because we were so bored.

Let me know who is on for the bookstore idea. In these situations, it is fairly easy to open. You have a conversation starter (opening) by merely talking about the event itself.

Later,

Kspriggs

xFortunex

10-10-2007, 10:41 AM

no spriggs the person is not on the forum...but he does often hang out with us...and has been trying to half-way use PUA techniques....it just pissed me off, cuz A. he was complaining the whole night about no one opening her....but wouldnt open....so after i asked both of my friends if neither were going to open...i did....with full intention of closing it. So, i open her inside starbucks...she walks back out...and after i walk out i do the finger "come here" which she complied with....and BAM......one of my supposed wings for this set....TOTALLY AMOGs the rest of us....WHILE stealing the set.....now i wasnt completely out of it....so i try to number close.....and Boom...he pulls out his phone, and makes her put her number in it......so at this point im pissed...wtf would someone do that? I dont even wanna hang out with someone like that anymore. im officially done with that.

anyway...nah it was just......it would have been dead....but we were still going to meet up with u....but we had to wait for the others to fall in and get ready. like...by 1030...people were showin up to Endrics house. lol. much less us leaving....ive got to go to work...brb.

Endric

10-10-2007, 11:57 AM

Yeah, it wasn't a pretty thing last night... I totally thought you had it... I didn't even think about him pulling out his phone before you... damn...

kspriggs

10-10-2007, 06:49 PM

I wouldn't worry about this guy getting her number. Women often give guys their numbers just to be nice. She may never return his call. In my experience (and I've heard Mystery agree with this principle), women will only call back if there's some degree of rapport established. Also, it didn't sound like he isolated the target that much (can't tell from the details).

Monkey

10-11-2007, 05:44 PM

it was me!

nah. sucks that happened to ya fortune, although your post made me lol at work :-P

i would have to agree with all three of your points. AA is indeed a bitch.

why would someone else set up a day2? that just doesn't make any sense, heh. although i am guilty of texting rather than calling when going after the day2 hookup ...

tried to sarge a bit last night with zero success. went to a few different places and ended up at grahams. some hotties, but i guess that vibe just isn't for me.

i'm thinking tomorrow will be better as i have a couple of things set up :-)

Endric

10-11-2007, 09:13 PM

... call us for hot chicks... lol

Monkey

10-12-2007, 01:28 PM

GNO brings teh h0ttness!

for serious ;-)

xFortunex

10-12-2007, 03:44 PM

cha didnt know ;)

also....we're going to a party...then afterwards...going downtown for some club hoppin.....holla if ur interested.....

Endric

10-12-2007, 06:30 PM

We are not going to that fucking party.

xFortunex

10-12-2007, 08:34 PM

we arent going to the party....we ARE going to dolce lounge off of 1604 and stone oak parkway...next to swig. Remember, tight pants dress shoes, and dress shirts...NO BOOTS or you wont get in.

so...its basically look nice.

hope to see u there!!!!!

Endric

10-13-2007, 01:02 AM

Hey Monkey, not tomorrow, but you should take us downtown sometime since it's your kingdom :P Cuz we don't know shit about it. We had a good night tonight, Rob is gonna post a FR later.

xFortunex

10-13-2007, 01:49 AM

So....lemme give a big shout out to my GNO folks for a job well done tonight...

the night starts off horribly in a variety of ways. For starters we couldnt decide on a place to go....we ended up going to dolce last minute....then im late...so we get there late....which in turn leads up to stand in the major ass line that dolce is infamous for....so while we're looking weak as shit in line...we decide to go to another spot...The Falls.....i say i dont wanna go...cuz this guy i promised all of his drinks would be on me the next time we're all together would be there. Endric says theres like...a one in a thousand chance he'd be there.....so i finally give in...and we go....hit the falls and guess whos right at the entrance?...the fekken entrance.....the guy i promised drinks to...we end up not having to buy him drinks so that ends well.

OK! so moving on, we're looking like 6 kosmos in the first episode of PUA, each of us standing around lookin at the club with a beer in our hands and the other in our pocket...AA is a bitch aint it? eventually endric wants to go smoke....so we go outside and theres a three set..instead of using his lighter he goes and asks them for a light.....i WAS just going to sit there and AFC like a lil bitch....but they had lighter problems...so i finally went in and helped out...which lead into straight dialogue and their main chick(im guessing) trying to steal the frame....so...i had to put a stop to it.....in the middle of some story i say...."hold that thought...." roll off. ruins her whole momentum..then i just systematically neg her till she gives up on the frame. so...i start moving for my target...a thirty year old black female who easily passes for 23. they eventually do the "we've got to pee" deal closer...so one of the chicks asks my target if she needs to pee.....im HOPING...BEGGING to God...PLEEEEEEEEASE say no......of course...she says no......YES THANK YOU GOD!...im in.........Endric and his brother leave so me and my target are isolated....which ends up with some comfort building and fluff....

So.....they start playing soulja boy, and i ask her if she knows how to do it...she says no...PERFECT!....lead her onto the dance floor and teach her how to do it...she hugs me...and we just go into straight grinding...lol. Meanwhile im begging for a roll off without misleading my ditching her, so Doc(End's brother, who btw is like...the perfect wing) catches my attention with a thumbs up....i mouth "i need a roll off." so...he comes up...and says..."we need to find vanessa, she headed to the bathroom and wasnt looking to good." sweet...roll off!!!!

So, i roll off, and come back a little later, and get the number close...im leaving out a few things...like our DHV by getting a soul train line going and having the rest of the wallflowers cheering. but my mc donalds is calling me....night gents...hope to see you guys out soon!!!!

monkey we missed you bro!

xFortunex

10-23-2007, 06:26 PM

hello? anybody still there?......

....................anyone still sarging?..........................................

Monkey

10-24-2007, 10:52 AM

heh, I was thinking the same thing :P I still check this every now and then and hadn't seen any updates either.

I, for one am now free to get back into gaming. my weekends had been tied up for the last few weeks but should be clear now until the holidays.

I got a copy of mystery method and some other stuff so will be bringing myself back up to speed as I have been out of it for awhile. its been a loooong time since I've sarged.

if anyone wanted to organize something for the weekend, lemme know. i'd like to avoid the club scene though. just keep it low key.

peace,

Monkey

SoniQ

10-25-2007, 06:16 PM

Greetings GNO and SA!

"As you have no doubt guessed, I am Morpheus..."

Wait, scratch that.

::clears throat::

"So I have this friend, and I need to get your opinion on something..."

Gyah, nevermind.

Here's the question: How can I, in the same half-exihilarating, half-frustrating night, have two first conversations over the phone with two different women where one of the conversations feels like those dorky middle school talks where you sit there and wait for them to finish every little thing until they're "ready" to talk - and the other one I've got FTC's and DHV spikes and negs like crazy that we're both vibing to - this being the same person, same skill set, 30 minutes apart - what's up with that?!

Dynamite Rave!

Endric

10-29-2007, 10:52 PM

Lol. Just letting you guys know i'm alive and kickin.

xFortunex

11-01-2007, 08:54 PM

finally a post!...sorry it took so long to post a reply...hopefully youre still checking for one!

ANYWHO....looks like she's putting you through a shit test....which basically is, "will this guy wait for me...or....he WILL wait for me." See the end of that is what YOU should be thinking. She's supposed to wait for you, youre the shit, and it doesnt matter whether or not she's going to...cuz then she's the one missing out. And she should feel that...but by giving in and letting her have the upper hand/control of the situation, then you failed AFC style....

obviously the second you've got under control....so im thinking....maybe you were a little bit nervous on the first chick......and maybe lost a bit of nerve.

-Fortune

Endric

12-17-2007, 01:42 AM

::tumbleweed::

Endric

12-17-2007, 03:14 AM

To anyone that stumbles on this: Our group is still out there, we just don't post much because the forum kind of died off. Send us an email, or AIM (MysticXSab), and we'll get back to you. Everyones contact info is in the thread. I realized alot of people might have skipped this over when Fortune got an IM out of the blue the other day. Anywayz, hope to hear from you.

Monkey

12-26-2007, 04:57 PM

haha that was me!

I liked fortune's response.. "uhh, what board are you talking about..." don't worry homie, i'm not gonna give ya up, hehe

i can't remember where i saw it first, but i remember seeing a neg that said to tell your target that you prefer foreign girls (which i do). whats funny is that i used this myself, and it really got to her. she told me the NEXT DAY that she had been thinking about the comment since i said it, and wanted to know why. of course, its because they "have more passion." hilarious how it made her start to validate herself. pure gold.

hope the board isn't gone for good. i wanted to let you guys in on my end-of-year resolution. when i first started reading up on game or whatever (september, i'm still a n00b, lol), i set a goal: three before the end of the year. i need one more, and i only have five days, so i'm really cutting it close :-P

and to soniQ, i'm gonna have to agree with fortune that you have to control the frame, but at the same time i always like to set up a specific time to talk. this way, you are both mentally prepared to talk to each other, instead of phoning her out of the blue when she might be dropping a deuce or something. maybe you just called her at the wrong time? i also prefer txts to talking, its just a lot easier to be brief and flirty ;-)

draykin

02-07-2008, 03:13 AM

looking to get started when and where do you guys meet? It lookslike theres two groups posting in this thread.

kspriggs

02-08-2008, 05:39 PM

Draykin,

Send me an email sometime- chmuscoalition@yahoo.com Tell me about yourself- age, occupation, strengths/weaknesses with women.

draykin

05-20-2008, 10:08 AM

still looking for wings. message me on aim: thedraykin

xFortunex

05-22-2008, 09:18 AM

whats going on gents?

most of GNO moved to austin.

....actually......all of gno moved to austin aside from me, and our other member....who has oneitis....but doesnt really need game, because he has like.....7 chicks just WAITING for him to break up with his gal.

SO.....if youre still out there, hit us up sometime -_O

-Fortune

GeneralLeeTX

10-27-2008, 09:09 PM

Anyone still alive in the SA area? Reach me on yahoo IM generalleetx. Always looking for wings around here.

checkers

11-05-2008, 11:26 AM

Houston is where I game, but I go to SA for film projects every once in a while. Hit me up if you're interested in going out. Tequilla x Mike

xFortunex

12-01-2008, 05:15 PM

So, recently, I had been on vaca with fams up in SC, and it rekindled my desire to mingle with women. I know I led a lot of you other players on saying, "YEA! we should totally sarge tonight." followed by false hopes and what not. I apologize for that. I told a few of you, that I wasnt in the best place....

not having a job for instance.

I was thinking to myself, I was constantly being hit up by other members of the community...and I wasn't ready to go out and enjoy myself....I couldn't even get into a damn club. However...that all changed this past weekend.

For starters...I was not looking forward to this week trip in anyway...I figured I'd be bored and what not....as I was packing....the phone rang...It was UPS saying I've gotten the job.

"hmm...this trip is already starting to look up."

so right before we leave...I look back around my room just to make sure that I'm not forgetting anything....go through my mental checklist, spying the pen I almost left without, and next to it...the game. SO, I pick up the pen, dismiss the book, turn around and take a step....and I KNOW it sounds cheesy, but, the book called out to me.....and basically, wheel around, grab the book, and walk out the door.

anytime after that, if I had free time, I was reading. I remembered why I loved the life style, why I time and time again...I didn't mind proving myself. Like I did that saturday at a vineyard my family was celebrating at.

Uncle: Youre one of us boy, you're finally grown, make us proud (pointing to a cb 8)
Me: lol...what do you mean?
Uncle 2: show her how one of us does it.
Me: (i really don't wanna game her...then the Style pulses through my brain)
So (smile) You going into surgery?
CB 8: What? what do you mean?
Me: Well...youre surrounded with alcohol, and you have sterile gloves on...I ASSUME youre about to perform surgery.
CB: lol no no, my hands are sensitive, and the water makes me break out.
Uncle: oh she got them dainty girly hands(he's pretty country)
Me: (thats two negs...) well, I wouldn't quite call them dainty, we'll just say they're "delicate" (wink) Besides...don't be too tough on her, those gloves bring me back to my childhood, when I used to play doctor mario.
Cb: (smiles) so...is that your family? what are you celebrating? (IOI)
Uncle 2: (starts speaking spanish, I guess to DHV himself...seeing as to how we were in NC at this time, and no one speaks spanish but him....)
Me:(AMOG'n) Uncle....you left San Antonio years ago....its ok to let the spanish go.
CB: (slaps my arm playfully)
Me: HEY!!!!!!! You DO realize that'll cost you right? My BDSM sessions are pretty pricey too....I hope you have deep pockets.

(we fluff for a bit)

MOOD KILLER SISTER:

(Whom has been watching this from the beginning) Fortune....I should throw salt in your game.

CB: Oh...you're name is Fortune? I have a cousin named Fortune.
Me: Good...when you talk to him, you'll think of me (wink)
MKS: (walks over to me and "accidentally" drops her moonpie on me) OOPS!

needless to say.....I never recovered from that....I ended up AFC'n out of it by getting upset.

But apparently I earned the respect of my Uncles, because while in the bathroom, cleaning myself off, they walked in.

Uncle: Son, you did us proud....lemme buy you a drink.
Me: Thanks unc.

so basically.....I've made this FR to say....I'm back in the game. Slowly but surely...I'm down to wing. So...if you need someone, lemme know. I'm officially available.

WEEKENDS ONLY! :P

I've got a job now lol.

GeneralLeeTX

12-01-2008, 06:36 PM

Fortune,
Welcome back brother. Nice to see someone else in SA is up for having some fun. I must say I've been trying to get a few of the PUAs together here in SA but there aren't many of us here. Glad to see you got your job and that you are getting back into the game along with it. I'm out of town this weekend but going to Cowboys on Wednesday night for a blackjack tourney and of course to sarge a little. When I get back on Saturday perhaps we can go sarge. Drop me a line and let's get you back in the swing of things.

xFortunex

12-01-2008, 07:19 PM

thank ya sir!

I'll be sure to do that.

xFortunex

12-03-2008, 07:30 PM

I'm cooking up something for saturday......

details to come.

GeneralLeeTX

12-04-2008, 06:55 AM

I'm in midland til Saturday but will be back that afternoon. Keep me posted on what's going on that you are cooking up. I've got a d2 with an hb8.5 that evening but it's a short thing since she has to work that night. Damned bartenders gotta work.

xFortunex

12-07-2008, 12:28 AM

I know some of you MAAY be mad...because you thought I was going to flake....

I honestly hadn't planned on it. Here's what happened:

Like Generallee...I too had a date. I promised a former prospect that I'd go to her and her roomie's party this weekend. I actually promised her like, at the end of october. Which she continually reminded me of, until like...10 minutes before I got to the party.

I rolled pretty deep, brought 6 people with me, which also DHV me. Being the leader of a large social group. I hadn't intended on staying as late as I did...but needless to say....the host (whom invited me obviously) had other plans for us....

about 30 minutes into the party....we excused ourselves for about an hour...

and lets just say...I got rewarded for keeping my promise ;)

and here is my trophy:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/grayson_07/Photo_120708_001.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/grayson_07/Photo_120708_002.jpg

yes...she gave them to me, YES, they're still hanging from my rear view mirror, and YES....thats a cross thats in the middle of them lol.

so......I'm sorry again gang....BUT....I was preoccupied ;)

-Fortune

GeneralLeeTX

12-09-2008, 01:41 PM

Fortune,
Tell me it was good stuff...LOL! I had a little too much fun Saturday night, too bad it ended early. She had to go to work so I didn't get an encore but oh well. How's about we cook something up for this coming weekend. I have my eye on some new places to try out and I think VIP might be easily arranged at one or two of them as well. Finals are over this week so all the girls are going to want to go out and blow off some steam and perhaps get a little wild and naked if we do our jobs right. Anyone who is up for making something happen this week get at me and we'll turn this town out in our favor. Oh and Fortune, doesn't it feel great to be back in the game?

xFortunex

12-09-2008, 07:45 PM

Wouldn't have it any other way bro.

Lets see, a friend of mine is actually throwing a small shindig, which I haven't yet committed to. So, I might see what you have in store for me buddy. You have my number, just text me the where and the time, and I'll be sure to give you a ring. I might have a friend of mine accompany to get him involved. I get paid this week too...so it'll a good weekend ;)

GeneralLeeTX

12-13-2008, 10:13 AM

Ok fellas,
What's the deal for tonight? Well I'm thinking we hit up a couple of these "ultra" lounges that have started popping up around here. They aren't as "ultra" as they think they are but they are where the really, smoking hot ones seem to be going these days. So, who's down for some serious sarging and let's see who can pick up a 10 first. ("Carnal knowledge of a lady this time.... On the premises."- Top Gun for those that didn't know)

xFortunex

12-13-2008, 10:35 AM

Well, like I said, I'm going to a party for a bit. But I'll swing by to see you guys in action and see who's ahead. Perhaps throw a set or two. Just keep me posted on where exactly you guys are at.

So....ultra lounges? I'm assuming they're in the Stone Oak area. Which means no boots. dress shoes, pants and button-downs. Peacocking gear if you'd like to stand out from all the rest who are probably going to be dressed like you.

So, keep me posted on where you are, I'll join, and wing a few of the sets who are progressing ;)

GeneralLeeTX

12-13-2008, 10:44 AM

Fortune,
I'm not going anyplace that I have to dress like a douchebag. LOL! I'm gonna check dress codes because if I have to wear a suit and look too cookie cutter I'll find other places.

I'll keep you posted on where we are and how things are going. I'm planning on heading out about 11 or so and I'll prep a couple sets for you. LOL! If there are a few nice ones at that party feel free to bring em along. We'll teach them some new tricks.

GeneralLeeTX

12-17-2008, 10:58 AM

Hey y'all,
I'm sorry I had to skip out on last Saturday, with my friend in the hospital I had to go to Austin. Luckily he was wearing his vest with the perp shot him. Bullet went through the vest but just barely and broke some ribs only. Thank God for Kevlar! It's saved my ass before so I love that stuff.

Anyway, Friday night I'm thinking we need to put something together. Who's in? Let's try some places that have a decent crowd, no BS dress codes and plenty 8+ HBs. Metro, Posh, Rive any of those places perhaps? Get back with me and we'll work out the details. Text or email me and we'll make it happen!

xFortunex

12-17-2008, 03:52 PM

SO! well....last weekend was a bust. Once again G-lee, I apologize for what happened to ur friend. It IS indeed a good thing that he had on his vest. I hope that bastard gets what he deserves. Only pussies use guns when its unnecessary.

ANYWAY! Onto my past weekend. So, friday rolls around and I end up having a date with an HB8. She's an old friend whom I should have F-closed last year (she lives in canada). Anyway, she comes back down, and basically freezes me out. I thought I had this in the bag. So I start some cat-string, and we kiss and hold hands.........and that's it.

....thats...fuckin' it. I was pissed, so, I bring up the fact that I knew she had a boyfriend, and asked if that's why she was acting the way she was. Of course it was, and she's upset because I found out, and was still kissing her. Trying to basically steal the frame, so, I reply with:

"I didn't try to do anything, I was just giving you what you wanted."

That shut her up. We go back to watching a movie. I basically have it made up in my mind, that once again....I'm not going to pursue this chick. Just like last year...and the multitude of times before. I have pics of her pussy anyway.

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SO! from there (I've been textin the chick from last week throughout the date) I roll to last week's house and we go for a rebound. From there, I get a text from a few friends, so I kiss her forehead and roll to Rev Room, and meet up with some friends...foul pussy breath and all lol. Needless to say, I didn't game while I was there. Aside from the bartender. Although it's not really gaming, seeing as to how I've already gotten her number, and we only really fluff.

BUT DOOD! I'm going to start gaming on my UPS route. I swear dood....the secretaries....my....God.....if it weren't christmas...and we weren't in such a rush all the time.....I'd be in on a few of them. 1 i know for sure.

MHB7: Where's your hat?
Fortune: Hat? They don't give us one.
MHB7: No! I mean, the hat you had on this morning.
Fortune: lol. OH, so you've been watching me all this time huh?
MHB7: *blushing* Not exactly.
Fortune: Well...I DO have my hat...but you'd have to find it.
MHB7: hmmm...it's in your back pocket.
Fortune: ......why are you looking at my back pockets? *wink*
MHB7: *blushing again* I...uh...uhmm....*throws her hands up in the IDK pose*
Fortune: it's ok kid, *wink* I've got to get back to my route.
MHB7: See you tomorrow I hope!
Fortune: Most definately. *wink*

heh....I realize, as I write this...I wink a lot. Anyway...unfortunately, this didn't happen today. This happened yesterday. Her boss was talking today, and waiting, only makes you look needy, so I gave her a smile and wink when she signed for her packages today.

Friday sounds great. I have a date for the afternoon/evening, IF i get off of work early....but we'll see. Just text me.

xFortunex

12-26-2008, 06:57 PM

Iunno how many of you would read this tonight...you're prolly out, just like I'm about to be. Hopefully g-lee texted y'all with what's going on. Tonight....Rive....1030. See ya there....if you try to message me....I'm not going to be back on, seeing as to how we're leaving right now to pregame.

Locks and I are about to go back to the old school.

smiley

01-17-2009, 11:23 PM

how're we doing?

xFortunex

01-23-2009, 06:43 PM

im an 8. How about yourself?

xFortunex

02-07-2009, 03:34 PM

number/kiss/grope-closed a deaf chick last night at sherloks.

it makes me smile on the inside. I was her guilty pleasure ;)

keep up the good work gents.

xFortunex

02-07-2009, 03:43 PM

your profile is your most trusted friend. I actually got this site from a fellow friend. its okcupid.

so....here's my profile:
MY SELF-SUMMARY
its just an annoyance.

On with the profile!

Well, once again, I'm rewriting my profile. That makes this what? four times? Heh. The last edit was an experiment. Seems like the women on this site found it humorous and interesting. Others just blew me off. For the most part, I still got a lot of curious reactions. But I guess I'll simply tell you about me for the most part.

I have a cologne fetish
My mouth tends to get me into trouble
I jump the gun on sexual topics
I love reese's peanut butter cups
I cant seem to function properly without music present
I have yet to have sex in a shower
I cant sit still for more than 30 seconds
Im not your stereotypical black male
I dont understand phone sex
I pop my neck a lot (bruce lee style)
I love reggae, but dont smoke weed
I dont have the patience to deal with ignorance
I am, however, ignorant in many aspects
I write when I'm drunk or bored.
Im a future substance abuser because of the aforementioned subject
I probably cant hear you. All because of the headphones I have on blast.
I dislike grits.
I have an affinity of sugar
I am gay for House M.D. ....I mean....the show's awesome.
I want to hang glide, sky dive, and bungee jump.
I am a southern gentleman.
I open doors, and continue to hold them open for long periods of time
I like drinking shasta
I wouldn't mind a Jack and Coke right about now.
I love to go bowling.
I have tickle matches with the women I date.
I plan to rule the world, will ou be my first lady?

To be completely honest, I'm that guy who stares at you in the bar/club whom you wish would just talk to you, so you can get to know me. Yet, I wont, simply because I'm oblivious to it all.

Yes, I know all the signs that you're interested, yet at the same time, I feel like you're prolly wondering why I'm staring at you. So....a majority of the time, girls come and talk to me. Not because I'm extremely hot or anything....but because theyre frustrated that I haven't approached them yet.

Yes....I have gotten the woman who comes up to me and says,

"God! you're so damn upsetting."

followed by them walking out, leaving me wondering, "what the hell is she talking about?"

hmmm....I'm wondering if you're still reading this.

Jeez, How much stuff do I need to add, before OKC is satisfied? Alrighty, lets continue. I'm an eager man, who loves to learn. I love learning about new ideals and outlooks. Even if they don't go along with my particular beliefs. I love it. I personally love learning about religions, I love geography. I plan to travel quite a bit when my life is more solidified.

I want to backpack through Europe, own a place in Tokyo, AND spend a few weeks in Brasil.

I also cook a lot...it kinda makes me want to go into culinary....but it's a hobby that I don't want to turn it into a job!
WHAT I'M DOING WITH MY LIFE
Getting around in social events. Bettering myself daily. Whether it be physical or mental.

Since it says that I'll have to write more, I guess I'll elaborate a little bit more.

Physically, I work out every weekday, either before or after work. Honestly, I've lost quite a bit of weight. However, I'm in no way where I'd like to be.

Being awesome.

Honestly....I'm just trying to expand this damn profile because OKC can't get enough.

"JEEZ!....it's like homework!"

tell me what stand up comedy that's from, and you'll win my heart. Well....not really.....but I'll at least be very into from the start. :O

Mentally....school is where I need to get back to. I'm working on getting back in my religious beliefs. Lol, don't worry, I don't plan on being the Jehovah's witness on the net or anything. I'm just regaining the faith that I've lost.

It's hard, and I'm not going to lie to you, I still revert back to my old ways and mentality. Yet, it is a process.
I'M REALLY GOOD AT
well.....being a jerk. Apparently thats all I do well, according to the friends who think I've changed over the past years.

I kind of feel like I need to explain this even further. You women seem to see the word "jerk," and leave it at that.

Honestly, yes...I can be a jerk, but what man isn't? I DO say things that may seem insensitive because I'm not sugarcoating it. I'm not going to make something that's obviously wrong, seem like it's ok because I want to spare your feelings. I'm not going to lie to you ever.

The thing about this statement...is that, yes, I realize that tact is important. That's yet another thing that I've been making strides with lately. Bringing the positive attitude I used to have back to the table.

I have a habit of seeing grammatical mistakes, yet at the same time, not doing anything to fix them. You know, it's like,

"yea....it's there....but I don't feel like going back."
THE FIRST THING(S) PEOPLE USUALLY NOTICE ABOUT ME
My cologne. I switch it up quite a bit. I actually have bottles at home and bottles in my car. I try to not be predictable, even when it comes down to my smell :O!

Other than that, my smile....Lips being the forefront of it. Does it mean
I'm a better kisser? I wouldnt know. What I DO know, is that, I haven't had any complaints.

Recently...It'd have to be my bald head. I got bored one day, and just...began shaving. With the weight I've lost, I like the look a lot more than the last time I did it.
MY FAVORITE BOOKS, MOVIES, MUSIC, AND FOOD
I dabble in just about everything. Unfortunately for you, I'm not going to list them all. Simply because I cant remember a majority of the stuff off the top of my head.

But since okcupid won't leave me alone about adding to my profile, I guess I should try to at least, Give it a go.

Books: Eric Jerome Dickey, Zane, Michael Baisden, Dan Brown, Kevin Smith, Maddox, Neil Strauss, Yes...I read the Harry Potter books...jeez...I told you I couldn't remember it off the top of my head.

Movies: Anything Comedy basically. Eddie Murphy, Kevin James, Kevin Smith again, Jim Carrey, Cedric the Entertainer, George Carlin RIP, Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill, Steve Carrell, Paul Rudd....A lot of comedian actors in this one.

TV: Scrubs, House, History Channel, Food Network, Discovery, I still watch a lot of cartoons, Law and Order SVU, thats about it. Documentaries get me though. I can watch one and get drawn in. Like the True Hollywood Stories, I dunno why, but they suck me in.

Music: It varies, this would be a HUGE list, So I'm not even going to bother. I'll hit major points of each genre. My actual list includes, but is not limited to:

Glenn Miller(big band)
Coltrane(jazz)
Victor Lopez(latin jazz)
John Mayer(acoutic)
Usher(R & B)
Earth Wind & Fire (old school, I was actually raised on them)
ERYKAH BADU (Neo-Soul my favorite artist...period)
Fall Out Boy(emo)
Foo Fighters(alternative)
ACDC(Classic Rock)
Theres this Heavy Metal German Band that my friend intro'd me to, which I can't remember off the top of my head.
I'm going to have to go with Garth For Country.

Food: I'm a picky eater...But I'll try it at least once....unless its a weird animal...or not properly cooked.

oh...and I still DO hate Mel Gibson.

I also hate HTML. The only reason I do, is because I'm too lazy to want to do it.
THE SIX THINGS I COULD NEVER DO WITHOUT
1. Proof
2. Sanity
3. Writing utensils
4. Music
5. Cell Phone
6. Proof.

Im keeping this list. Why, you ask? Because it humors me.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT
How to prove I'm right.....about everything.

lol.....I LOVE that. lol...oh so pro.

hmmm...other than that, I observe people. The human subject intrigues me. Almost to a point where I'd like think that its something that helps me out when judging a person's character.
ON A TYPICAL FRIDAY NIGHT I AM
out with friends....generally in austin. I stay in san antonio from time to time though.
THE MOST PRIVATE THING I'M WILLING TO ADMIT HERE
I have a onesie. It's blue with gold stars. It keeps my entire body warm during the winter. YES its one of them that has the booties, and YES it has a flap in the back.

No, it's not for easy access for another guy. No, its not to be cute. It's flannel, I wear a bedsheet and pretend I'm superman, while running around my backyard.
YOU SHOULD MESSAGE ME IF
If you'd like to ask me a few questions. Have a problem. Join my club of awesome. Or just laugh a bit about life.

if you have an interesting outlook, or something funny, or just lead an exciting life...all you really have to do is, simply look at their page. Then, if they think you're cute...or hell, if you just have a cool looking pic, they'll go to your page, and then let your page do the magic for you.

two of the responses, I got while I was out:

kjw2986
Yesterday - 10:13pm
omg your hilarous. definately the best profile ive come across. im at work right now and cant ramble like i would like to...but we should definatley chat sometime. have a great weekend hope to hear from ya.

kayleigh

ACTIONSxFortunex
Today - 2:47am
well, I must say, I'm glad you're interested in a chat.

I'm also glad you loved the profile. ;)

anytime you'd like a chat. I'm here. SO! give me a ring-a-ding. I'll be waiting. :)

and:

Hello!

So, I saw you stalked me, and I stalked you back. Not sure if you accidentally clicked on my profile, or thought you'd see something more interesting, or thought "hell no" and hope you clicked fast enough to another page so that you wouldn't register on my stalk list. Alas for you, you did.

So, as one good stalk deserves another, I landed on your profile. I don't know if you're into white girls, but if you are, or even just want a new friend, drop me a line. I really liked your profile. :)

just a helpful tip. ;)