Very strange LMR

[David24]

So, the story is I met this girl at school a week ago...
got her number and she invited me to a party.. we made out had fun and agreed to meet again...
Now yesterday she was at my house, she loved it, loved my mum, my dog just about everything... she even laughed at bad jokes I have made up to check for IOI's.... anyways, what I did was sit her down comfortably, open a bottle of redwine and put on a good movie....(she choose which one)

anyways, every single time I went in for a kiss close, she backed off, and then made me Always come in for a second kiss close before she let me kiss her...(she even bit my lip once)
we did kiss every single time, and it was hot, but I feel like she didnt really want to kiss me... I am a good kisser with tons of expirience...

So after awhile into the movie we get even more into eachother, but every fucking time she always has kinda LMR... and it sucked because I ended up feeling like I was begging to kiss the freaking girl...

so what I did 3-4 times throughout the evening was get up and get in the sofa next to us... lay there for a few min to freeze her out, and then went back in....
In the end she called me schizoprenic... LOL!

Now, in the Middle of the evening she took my leatherbracer which I always wear and said she would now take care of it(IOI)... but what I dont get, is why she kept pushing me back all the time before we kissed, because everytime we did kiss, she loved it... I could tell...



when she had to go home, I followed her out and she just left without even a hug nor a kiss... I just walked in and stood still for a sec going WTF did I do wrong???


So about two hours later stupid as I am I decided to send her a message..

On the message I just said tht I was sorry for pushing her, and that she had to take good care of my leatherbraces... also she knows I just got out of a serious relationship and therfore I also said that the reason I was kinda pushy was because I missed having someone to hold around...

A little while later she sends me back:
its no problem, it was a very cozy evening, thanx for letting me come, good night=)

Thts exactly wht she wrote....


Now today I havent called her... I got class with her tomorrow and im just planning to play it cool and be a nice open smiling social guy and show tht I can have fun even without her...

here is the clue: I'm fucking obsessed with the girl, but I dont wanna mess it up.. so im just gonna take it easy, I got all fucking semester=)

What do u guys think?



Ohh and btw: I told her I was going to expect a nice message on my facebook wall today.. she wrote: ("heres the nice message you ordered" <3)

I im out of clues on wht to do... really could need some help on this one!

thanx upfront guys=)

[Thor]

Its probably just ASD, give her an SOI the next time you guys are hanging out and then try to kiss her.

[oscarkool2]

i dont see anything wrong with her pulling back, but shes basically using a tease effect on you that you should be using on her. You seem to be acting a little needy in my opinion especially with the text message and telling her to write on your wall and such. from now on, dont make any random texts and just lay low for a bit. she knows that the ball is in her court and she can have you in a heart beat which can end up being bad. so get the ball back in your court even if it takes a few days to a week. next time she wants to hangout, just tell her your busy and to hangout another time.

its not LMR shes doing. LMR is when youve got them naked and they STILL wont let you finger them. f'in bitches....

Edit: i want to add some more for all the guys out there. The reason we get confused like this is because youre thinking "hmmm i dont really understand she lets me kiss but then she doesnt then she does and then doesnt and then she doesnt hug me when she leaves even though she let me kiss her and such alot. WTF is going on??" ive talked some girlfriends about this before and they all agree that she likes you but that they didnt come over to have a 2 hour makeout session on the couch at your moms house. she agrees to kiss you for a bit cause she likes you a bit and doesnt want to let you down. but she doesnt want to get hot. you could have been too needy like i said or she might think you only want her for sex, especially if you madeout with her at a party and she was drunk. theres been plenty of girls ive madeout with at parties and things just arent the same when youre sober so next time youre hanging out.. and dont get hot with her on your moms couch man, take her to your room, a little white lie such as "damn my dvd player doesnt work correctly here, lets go watch it in my room." does wonders(she knows your lying but she doesnt care and it doesnt sound needy!) you can also try to get her to make the first move, or at least give you permission to get close without saying anything: try the knee technique where you push your knee against hers and see if she interlocks your leg with her leg (credit to someone here i think, cant remember sorry!) other than that, dont be pushin it and also dont get up and sit on the other couch then come back lol what does that say? nothing, she knows youll come back haha. if youre gonna do that, dont go back to her at all even if the movie ends, just keep sitting there dont say a word and wait to see what she does lol it will be funny. remember that when mystery says he turns his back, he doesnt turn back around. he waits for her to tap his shoulders. and youre "fucking obsessed" which is a major problem. dont get obsessed over a party makeout, trust me its a sad road that leads to frusturation lol i would know from afc days. goodluck!

[A.J.]

LMR is short for Last Minute Resistance, meaning the resistance right before the point of no return (ie sex). your not even close to LMR if you cant even kiss her.....

[h2flow]

LOL, Your Falling into her frame. From the Sound of it seems like she had the frame for the whole night. If your playing it cool to get her; Your gonna feel awkaward espeically if it doesn't work in ur favor cuzz u have intention and need something from her which will lead to 'Oneitis'. So my word of Advice, If your gonna play it cool, REALLY be cool about it and expect nothing from her, Do NOTHING to get her. Only Thing You should do is Make her day better BECAUSE ur just that cool of a person. ANd it's Always Okay to Punish her for bad behaviour =).

[David24]

thanx guys! a lot of good tips here!
well, we met up at school today and went back to my house....
both of us have just gotten out of a LTR, so I dont remember how it happend, but she
proposed being Fuck friends for the sake of it:P

I agreed, because tht way I dont have to worry about not being able to improve my game in the field:P
We were going to have sex, but stupid me forgot buying condoms:(
anyways, we agreed to meet up again friday to pop a bottle of wine(on her bill), and "watch" pulp fiction:P hehe

so im not that obssesed anymore, just gonna play it cool now=)
and does anyone have tips on how to act when I meet her again?

Im not new to all this, its just being in a LTR for 3 years has made me forget A LOT of this shit!
and how do I get her into My frame now? I mean,
I know how to do it, but all of you are seing this from a diff angle than me, and therfore might have many good tips=)

thanx a lot again guys!

Peace

[oscarkool2]

uhhh well dude you dont really have to do anything now, she wants to fuck. go buy the condoms and fuck her. see what happens. dont say anything stupid, dont ask her to be your gf, etc. see what she does. kinda why ive never ever asked a girl to be my girlfriend, i just go with the flow of things and ill be with a girl for months at a time then with a few girls for awhile, its all about what you wanna do. just be FBs for awhile and see where it leads. no harm in that.

[David24]

uhhh well dude you dont really have to do anything now, she wants to fuck. go buy the condoms and fuck her. see what happens. dont say anything stupid, dont ask her to be your gf, etc. see what she does. kinda why ive never ever asked a girl to be my girlfriend, i just go with the flow of things and ill be with a girl for months at a time then with a few girls for awhile, its all about what you wanna do. just be FBs for awhile and see where it leads. no harm in that.

aiiight gracias man=)

[effdizzle]

Well, as I see it your both young. Could she still be a virgin?

If so her LMR could be through the roof.

If not you jumped through her hoops too much, everytime she makes you go in for the kiss twice your jumping a hoop. What you should have done is back off DLV her then DHV yourself, kino escalation, give a IOD, give HER a hoop(small) to jump through, IOI, Compliance test(CT) her. See where she lets you go.

Then, if she complies try kissing again. Don't get hot and heavy, back off say you want to cool it down(remember women have the anti-slut defense).

if she defies the test, IOD, DHV see if she gives you and IOI, if she does CT, IOI. Rinse and repeat.

[husky]

lol you have the same problem i did , meet the girl in a party , kiss close her the same night when she drove me home (im a poor bastard got no car)
then the next day making out and feeling up her breasts ,legs on my bed for 3 hours but couldnt take her bra off.....(tried 3 times)
she left (she got a doctor appointment),
the next day i called but she was working and left a message (im sorry couldnt take ur call was working)
....tried to call again but she didnt answeer
havent try to contact her in weeks ... , busy out picking up new girls

[Professeur de Magie]

Just keep the mindset of "its nice to be around her, but you're also perfectly happy without her" and things will turn around. Don't try to "beg" for the kisses, instead start making it a reward for whens he does something that pleases you. I'm having a similar problem myself with a girl I'm starting to one-itis over, but me, myself, and my inner PUA id sat down for a nice long chat and this is what we came up with:

1) The reason I'm successful with women I don't care for is because, well, I really didn't care whether or not they slept with me, so subconsciously, the "prize" of scoring a laid for the night fell onto their shoulders so they end up working to get with me.

2) Contrarily, when I one-itis a girl, I'm not even myself. I'm being super needy and I'm going out of my way to try to arrange meet ups. It essentially rapes my value and in the best case scenario, neuters my masculinity and gets me placed in the platonic friends zone.

So rather than going for a freeze out, instead you should try calling it out. She might not even be aware that she's doing this, and if she was, she'll get slightly flustered when you call it out. It'll work to your advantage. Just keep being the leader of the interaction, set the frames, and you're gold.

[David24]

thx man=)
ok so heres the story so far after this week:

on friday we where at her house drank a bottle of wine and had sex in the backseat of her car=)

sat she went to a frat party and i went clubbing: i ended up with yet another girl and she ended up ringing my doorbell at 5 o clock n the morning wanting to have sex again:P haha lol
ok so sat again i made love with her

and on monday we had sex in my livingroom and to my suprise mum got home 2 hours early catching us in the middle of our act:P
ahhh well, mum is cool so she didnt really bother, but my new FB took this very harsh... so now were just cooling it off a little, im just gonna try playing this one correct now;)

thanx for all great tips guys!!!

peace