Myspace game post revisited

[Superfreak]

Ok went back to the old post as it was a popular post that died because of a moron, so some of this will be copy and past and some of it will be new.

Now first off let me say that yes you can go out to the bars and clubs and can use game to get women without going online at all and that online game should not replace live field experience,

but, if you live in a small town, or can only sarge on weekends, or etc...

I travel about 70 miles to a bigger city but work M-F so late night sarging is out of the question m-f.

Then online game can be fun and also rewarding. First off I have meet many really great women and yea a few weird ones by using online game. Also not all women go to bars and clubs so thru online game I have been able to experience more variety in the women I date.

An example of that is younger women (younger meaning legal I am 32) due to the fact that all clubs and bars here are 21 and up all 5 of them. Also I live in a very moral southern town. So day game can be a bit limited in places.

I never meet an online girl on a thurs, friday, or sat night. I have even told them that rule. I say Look I have not met you yet so not sure if your worth wasting a weekend night on. Her: Blah blah blah, You: Look, lets meet on Tuesday for a cup of coffee and if your cool and you behave I might take you to a really cool place where my friends (hang out or band plays) on Friday.

Or I tell them I am going to the mall shopping, so if you want to meet up and tag a long thats cool.

Anyways hope that helps some, one thing it is good for is testing new and original openers.

That is where I developed my
OMG, You are just too Fing adorable
Your so cute, it almost makes me sick

Do you know what the retarded thing about you is?

That on the one hand, you have this Im a
sweet, girl from a small town act but you are so fucking passionate I feel
like you're ready to burst out of your skin with raw energy

Now the last one for some reason I feel I should attribute to Mystery some how though I think it is mine. The OMG I have been doing for almost a year and a half and picked that up from a mystery Video the (OMG, )Do you know why you suck? The other one I think I can say is 100% mine. Thing is with openers even canned ones you can make them your own and also spin them into new ones.


Point is all those were used on myspace and works for me in field as well.

So the basic structure of online game would go something like this actual example:

Read from bottom up

From: Sarah
Date: May 13, 2006 10:45 AM Flag spam/abuse. [ ? ]
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Ewwwwww
Body: Well,
that is sooo freakin true and also very nice of you write a geniune and nice message.

So, whats ur name?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 13, 2006 10:23 AM

NP

Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that youre probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, Im freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Sarah
Date: May 13, 2006 10:18 AM

Thank you.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 13, 2006 10:11 AM

You are so adorable... its fucking sickening

I will post some more as well but want to keep them separate to cut down on the confusion factor

[Superfreak]

samantha
Date: May 13, 2006 8:20 AM Flag spam/abuse. [ ? ]
Subject: RE: RE: RE: ewwww
Body: haha and the said thing is that is about what the email sound like too and thats said. well i would be honored to chat with you because im sure different. well anyways ihope to hear from you soon.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 12, 2006 9:31 PM

Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that youre probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, Im freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: samantha
Date: May 12, 2006 9:18 PM

well wasnt that just full of all kinds of positivty



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 12, 2006 4:41 PM

"You are so adorable... its fucking sickening"

[Superfreak]

May 13, 2006 8:35 AM Flag spam/abuse. [ ? ]
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: ewwww
Body: Well, that would definitely be interesting anyway. I have to say, though, I'm more a fan of the water shooting flowers. Adds an element of surprise, I think.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 12, 2006 6:53 PM

Oh I see how it is, What am I a clown to you? LOL

I will just run right out and get some big boat shoes and a honky nose.

I see clearly now you want to honk my big red clown nose.

Well we just meet and I am not that type of guy.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Jaclyn
Date: May 12, 2006 6:43 PM

LOL, well, you're about half right, anyway, most of them are only on their 2nd divorce:) And you're definitely different than anyone I've talked to on here so far, which is a good thing. Anyone that can make me laugh like this is good in my book.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 12, 2006 6:35 PM

You take it the right way.

Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that youre probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, Im freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Jaclyn
Date: May 12, 2006 4:22 PM

Well, while Im not quite sure how to take that, it made me laugh, and that's always a good thing:)



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 12, 2006 4:20 PM

"You are so adorable... its fucking sickening"

[Superfreak]

OK thats three of then for now notice the dates are from a ways back but I think they show the structure to use.

Also notice that in each one the conversation is kinda like what would be used in live game.

Now these were from an old post of mine on another site so they were on going conversations.

The following conversation I would begin to work for a firing solution in order to close and usually with in 2 - 3 messages would have digits or an IM connection.

Like I said though if peps show interest I will go back thru my messages and will get you better examples of closes on myspace

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

You are so adorable... its fucking sickening

It's a good opener in the fact that it isn't insulting, yet gets them to respond, if they do respond.

Have you tried this in a different geographical region? Like New York? Kentucky may be different.


What is your opening percentage with this opener? If she doesn't bite the first time, what do you do?

What is your percentage on # closing on Myspace?

What is your demographic?

How do you handle the "Who is this?" question?

What are common Myspace IOI's and IOD's?

[Superfreak]

Ahh good questions all around let me answer them for yea

You are so adorable... its fucking sickening

It's a good opener in the fact that it isn't insulting, yet gets them to respond, if they do respond.

Have you tried this in a different geographical region? Like New York? Kentucky may be different.

Oh yes this opener has been around for a while so you may want to change them up a bit. I posted those the same day as the dates on the messages so others in one of the PUA groups on myspace has had access and almost all the example post I see contain my material so It still works all over but I am sure you may run into girls that have received that message before.

Like any canned lines, mine have hit the community so user beware


What is your opening percentage with this opener? If she doesn't bite the first time, what do you do?

Out of ten girls I usually will get 6-8 replys with the very occasional bitch message.

What is your percentage on # closing on Myspace? That one is a bit harder to answer because my online game uses qualifying. I guess if I was less selective and followed up in a more timely manner the # or IM close rate would be around 4 in ten and the day 2's would be 2 in ten

What is your demographic?

Ahh well I am 32 and I have usually only messaged girls that were 18 -30

With my age and all getting replies back from the 18-20 girls seems a bit harder but of those that did reply I would say I closed a larger % of them then any other group so it all works out in the end

How do you handle the "Who is this?" question?

Usually it is "Do I know you? But its really easy if you look at the example my second reply is also a cut and paste and fits most of the questions.

What are common Myspace IOI's and IOD's?

IOI's are usually asking for your name, or more info about you

As far as IOD's I really just ignore them online. As long as she replies then usually its game on. (The only IOD I really pay attention to is flat responses such as yep, or thats cool, or any other non investment type replys)

As long as she is contributing an emotional response good or bad (just treat the bad as shit test) then it is still game on.


Not a question you asked but:

How long do you continue to message her: No more than twice without a reply and those are usually spaced out due to me being too busy in the real world working or getting laid so I put the online game on hold.

As far as your question about her not replying what do I send her, Nothing I message her only once if she replies great, if not cool cause she is not wasting my time.

Also I have had girls reply months later, if I had kept sending her messages this would not happen. Who knows she may have had a BF or something else going on at the time.) Either way when she does message me even if it was 2 months later then it is so game on as she is now interested and my original message stuck in her mind.

[Urbanite]

Just for kicks I ran this a little last night to see how it would play. I sent the message to 12 HBs. 18 hours later, 9 have read the message. Of those 9, only one replied with:

"sickening huh!? lol well thanks my love!

XoXo"

Not a bad response, but by no means a strong IOI. In any case, I'll wait a bit and use a slightly modified version of your follow-up (which is even more funny here in Utah) on her and any others who respond later. I'll report on my success.

P.S. Maybe you're just better looking than me, Superfreak. But I hope to have a few more responses in the next 24 hours.

[Superfreak]

Yea I would give it a few days to see what the response rate is and it may not be looks myspace page is usually pretty pimp LOL. My main pic of me is dressed as a cowboy/bandit complete with Kansas City Bank bags and an old salon bar in the back LOL.

Also my about me is always changing I usually go for deep and passionate or cocky funny.

I will post my current and old About me here:

Current

About me:
If the eyes are truly the windows into the soul, look into mine and I will look into yours and we can speak to the deepest parts of who we really are.

Who I'd like to meet:
My perfect first date is a non-date. It's two people being together and getting to know each other. How about we stay in the moment and explore? If we get past that then the romance will flow easily if it's there to be shared. In other words, I don't date. I connect and explore the possibility of what can happen.


Old about me:

I'm intelligent, direct, very honest and a little 'goofballish' (take a look at my pic for an example). I have a somewhat sarcastic sense of humor but I know when to restrain myself. I like to talk and love to listen to other people and usually don't have problems making friends. I look good (most people are able to look at me without feeling ill) and I have great looking eyes (thanks Dad)and a full head of hair (thanks Mom).

If you have any questions then just ask.


My perfect first date is a non-date. It's two people being together and getting to know each other. How about we stay in the moment and explore? If we get past that then the romance will flow easily if it's there to be shared. In other words, I don't date. I connect and explore the possibility of what can happen.


When you send a Myspace message girls will usually check out your profile. So you want to also make it as good as possible.

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

The "who is this?" question puzzled me. I saw guys talking about it on a few different forums. I took it as a shit test, so I changed the thread and tried every other shit test tactic. It never worked. It seems to be a question that has to be answered with a genuine answer. So I tried that, and it worked. haha.

I ran an opener once, I decided to try an experiment.

I used a photo of a cute guy that was smiling and comparing himself to a photo of Jude Law, the guy looked like Jude Law.

I designed this opener that just wasn't me. It was lame, it was gay, no one here would think that it works. I sent it out to eight women, and they all responded. I use an average looking guy photo, and no responses with that opener out of eight women. C'est la vie.

You can always put you profile on private to give women less to judge. But putting your profile on private may look kind of shady for a guy, even though it's becoming more popular these days for guys.

If not that, there are ways to hide your friend's list and comments using HTML. But Myspace can be seen as creepy, so you need to self-disclose using your profile.

You can use your profile to hit many attraction switches. Girls writing comments on your profile, having beautiful women as friends that ACTUALLY write on your profile, not the women that have one million friends who you can't even talk to.

Some guy on the TMM forum even created hot girl profiles and wrote comments on his profile. haha... That's a little weird, but can be done if done correctly.

What are the best ways to increase your social circle on Myspace? Maybe Superfreak has the answer. I would say finding a girl, disqualifiy yourself completely, and just message her friends about something her friends wrote on her comments and make more friends.

Is it true that women with their profile on private are more reluctant to start a conversation with you than ones who don't have it on private?

[Superfreak]

OK after posting this I ran a few test of my own just to see if the opener was still effective so I have not answered them as of yet but will post the replies here and how I would respond though the response most of you receive can be covered by copy and pasting the same second message I use in my posts.

The reason is a good/or bad response from the girl is a response and in the second message

You take it the right way.

Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that youre probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, Im freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.


It comes off as a confession of sorts, Like well honestly I know you get crap loads of messages and wanted my message to stand out. It uses a good humor that will get a giggle out of her reading it, then you are also qualifying her

by saying something to the effect of I was hoping that you are more than just another hot girl and that there is more to you.


OK here is the responses so far of about 10-12 Myspace openers I sent out last night

1. Subject: RE: WTF
Body: well thank you I get that all the time so thank you. You are a cute guy hope to get to know you better talk at u later

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 8:10 PM


OMG, You are just too Fing adorable


2. Subject: RE: Wow
Body: I'd like that

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 7:55 PM


I want to speak to the deepest part of who you
truly are.

3. Subject: RE: Wow
Body: who is this

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 7:58 PM


I want to speak to the deepest part of who you
truly are.

4. Subject: RE: WOW
Body:
thanks!!
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 8:12 PM


You are just too fucking adorable

5. subject: RE: OMG
Body: Huh?!

haha. Im confused.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 9:53 PM


I want to speak to the deepest part of who you
truly are.

OK so 24 hours later I already have 5 replys to work with.

So basically

I will now post a more complete message from the archives to show how I would close

Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: OMG

Body: lol true story!! im talkin 2 ya right now!


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 30, 2006 12:10 AM

K added yea



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~ms new booty~
Date: May 29, 2006 9:06 PM

ok im ************ on yahoo


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 29, 2006 3:25 PM

Well if you ever want to chat hit me up on yahoo IM at superfrk_2000 or msn at shead001@msn.com


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~ms new booty~
Date: May 28, 2006 11:27 PM

wow for real?? u r one interesting guy!! lol
well im goin to bed now..im fallin asleep as i type!! haha
gnite!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 29, 2006 1:41 AM

Ok I am studying to be a mentalist, its like an illusionist(David Blane),magician(David Copperfield), comedian(Chris Rock) and a psychic (like John Edwards) all rolled into one. Its not supernatural at all. I have just gotten really good at taking a little info, your profile to read what type of person you are and I liked what I learned. Now I think that you are definatly more than just another pretty girl on myspace, that there is something more something real there that I would love to discover only the way that a friend can.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~ms new booty~
Date: May 28, 2006 10:28 PM

well yes i do..but still! how did u do that?


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 29, 2006 1:21 AM

Now now if I told yea it it would not be fun.

You do like fun right?


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~ms new booty~
Date: May 28, 2006 10:18 PM

ya exactly! how did u do that? lol




----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 29, 2006 12:29 AM

Lets play a game. Since I think you are probly more than just another pretty face. I hope I am right about you.
I will try to tell you something true about you just off what I seen in your profile.
First I think sometimes you do not take a chance and regret not following your heart latter on and at the same time I feel you have followed your heart only to be mislead and hurt.
I believe that you will always be on a diferent mental level. In dealing with men it would
be very dificult for a man to work with you or have you as a co-worker without that man
atempting to cross the line to make the relationship closer than perhaps what it would be.
You may find as you go through life that you wil have many first dates and that you are
not impressed by the first date. I believe that many men bore you because they come across as being one dimensional so they're drawn to the aesthetics, they're
drawn to the face, the figure, the complexion, the hair.
You have a very firm grip on most of your life. So it's reasonable to say that no man shal own you, posses you or control you.
No man is going to have you jump through hoops at the count of three.
You are not the typical bombshel . You are smart and certainly the major isues in your life would be men. And if nine out of ten men do not impress you the one
that does would be a chalenge.
Through no fault of your own you have atracted losers and again I say through no fault of
your own. I don't believe that you are manipulative or a game player.
I simply feel that you were bored with men because they live by paterns and routines and
somehow they feel its their mission in life to pursue you. Granted, many men would see you as a
fantasy or sexual object and I may go out on a limb by saving this but I feel you're a one man woman.
It doesn't mater how many men you've experienced in your life. I still feel you are a
one-man woman. I feel you search for your soulmate, You search for your twin flame or lifemate
that is out there.
Other women would either hate you or love you because you come across as a threat to them as they may lose their boyfriend to you. I believe that you are mentaly preoccupied with a man who is comfortable to be with, one that is non-threatening and probably one of the few men that you would not intimidate. I feel that the most important thing though to you is how a man makes you feel when you are together. This is not in a sexual way at all.
Let me know if I was right.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~ms new booty~
Date: May 28, 2006 9:01 PM

aww thanks!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 28, 2006 9:47 PM

You are just too fucking adorable....

[Superfreak]

OK here is a bonus this is after the original message chain and honestly I had kinda strung her a long a bit as I was busy in real life.

then I received this message, since this is kinda an example of I let it go on too long without closing but as you will see using some cool cold reads that you probably will not see on any other seduction site (and by the way you could use the Queen one in live game) I was able to pull her back into my world. I was also still too busy in the real world so I did not close her but you will see I could have

anyways check it out and if you need help figuring out the queen of harts routine I use just ask and I will explain it.

This post contains some real gold and not just for online game.

Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: hey
Body: Everything you say is so deep. I don't mean that in a bad way, but as you said in a great way. I've never known a man that just spoke so freely about life. I know to read your messages. Every time I get one its like I can't wait to open it to see what it says. I haven't meet alot of people who really hold my attention or usually intrest me for that matter, but you do. I totally agree with what you say, some people in life are destined to meet one another. This moment in my life I feel like I need to surround myself with people who at least share the same views as I do about life and what it has in store. To make a long story short, I really enjoy talking to you. I hope you and I can become better friends at least though these chats.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Jun 8, 2006 4:47 PM

Its a great thing..

There are some people you meet , and you know, they're very nice and polite, but you never
really feel any deep rapport or connection with them .
You know, you dont have a sudden sense of curiosity about them. You
arent pulled toward them. On the other hand, there are some people
with whom you do feel a sudden curiosity, a sudden
connection, a sudden rapport. Its like, you want to know this person..
This person seems interesting. Its almost as if it feels like
things in your life have conspired to introduce you to this person
as if you and this person were meant to meet. And you
start to feel as if this just might be so important that it begins to feel as if
you can take all the time you need, right now, just to get to know this
person . Other stuff seems trivial and small in comparison. You
have this sense of perfect safety, combined with a little tingle of
excitement, and you just want to open up and absorb this
experience its like, by letting yourself enjoy this moment, you are
giving yourself a little gift. Isnt this a great feeling, when you can now
feel this is whats happening?
Whats great is when you have that sudden, profound sense of
connection, that feeling that youre sharing meaningful communication.
Its almost like you and this special person are inside a great
glass globe, and everything else is on the outside and far far away
everything that tries to interfere just goes tink tink tink on the surface
and then you forget about itand here, inside this globe, with this
increasingly fascinating, special person , its as if you have infinite
time and infinite space. Its almost as if the two of you are taking the
first steps to building a world together. Doesnt this feel really
good when this is now whats happening
With me this is the way I feel about it.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Crissy
Date: Jun 8, 2006 3:34 PM

oh yeah was that a good thing or a bad thing?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Jun 8, 2006 3:21 PM

Well thanks, I don't know there is just something about you, not sure what it is but would love to find out.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Crissy
Date: Jun 8, 2006 3:16 PM

I really think I should bump you to friend ..1!! You may know me better than I know myself.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Jun 8, 2006 3:03 PM

Not getting a clear picture but will guess the Queen of Hearts


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Crissy
Date: Jun 8, 2006 2:53 PM

ok got it now try!!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Jun 8, 2006 2:42 PM

I replied to the last one I got, here is the last one I sent :)

Well it just kinda comes to me. Have you ever heard of John Edwards, I have studied mentalism, it is kinda like a psychic and and illusionist put together.

For example I want you to think of a bright and colorful playing card, imagine drawing out this bright and colorful card on a huge round piece of paper and adding the symbols and characters. When you get that image in your mind I will try and guess your card



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Crissy
Date: Jun 7, 2006 5:47 PM

Holy shit!!!! Do I know you or maybe I knew you in another life!!!! That was strange. So how is it that you can just figure all that out???? get back with please I'd love to talk



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Crissy
Date: Jun 8, 2006 2:21 PM

hey whats up?? Did you get my last mail???

[Urbanite]

I will post my current and old About me here:


That shit is clutch, bro! With your blessing, I'd like to steal...err...borrow some of it. I don't think we're gaming in the same market, so I shouldn't get busted.

[Urbanite]

The reason is a good/or bad response from the girl is a response...

Do you have a technique for pinging those women who DO NOT respond to the initial message? Another chance to get their attention after not hearing from them for a few days?

[Bret Rigby]

So what do you do to take things offline? Do you use the thing Style does and say that you aren't going to be online much and you'd like to keep talking to her, blah blah blah?

[trumpet]

You're so adorable... it's f-ing sickening


Apologies in advance for this newbie question, but I thought openers were supposed to be indirect? This seems very direct to me. I am worried if I tried it most girls would instantly recognise that I was trying to score with them. At least I think most girls from my country would - I'm English.

[Vibe]

I'm about to try this out. Thanks for posting it.

[Westside]

I have to share this because I just goes to show that there is something to the method. Got shit tested hard and then flipped her a complete 180. Thanks to the original poster for the idea and credit is due somewhere (not sure where) because this was really not my own material. You will notice I modified things here and there to suit the situation...

Anyways here goes my PU on a HB8-9 on myspace...Start from the bottom and read up.


Names and numbers altered to protect privacy...




END

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Lisa G.
Date: Sep 4, 2007 9:27 PM

I don't usually send a friend requests... but since i know that I won't be online again in a few days or so,, i'll send you a friend request and add it right away...

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Sep 4, 2007 9:23 PM


Ill call/text you in a day or two. Do I get a friend request?

~M

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Lisa G.
Date: Sep 4, 2007 9:13 PM


I don't mind giving you my number right now coz I'm not on myspace all the time. If you see me online, it's my sister using it. But anyway.. 655-1990.. just text me whenever you want and I'll reply when I get the chance.. k have a good one.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Lisa G
Date: Sep 4, 2007 9:10 PM

haha why did you think we wouldn't get along? coz i don't like to talk too much? yeah i need someone to adopt me right now... to pay my bills hahaha... coffee sounds good...


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Sep 4, 2007 8:55 PM


Your funny....I think I want to adopt you and make you my bratty little sister instead!

Do you really think that it would be absolutely impossible for someone to randomly come across your myspace and want nothing more than casual conversation over coffee sometime?

We probably wouldn't get along anyways... ;)

~Mike
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Lisa G.
Date: Sep 4, 2007 8:23 PM



yes, that is really something different... and I wonder... How many times have you copy and pasted these messages of yours to the girls you leave a message to?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Sep 4, 2007 7:57 PM


Thanks anyways...

Your probably thinking to yourself, WOW is this actually how this guy tries to meet girls? The answer is no. Usually I just whack them over the head and drag them back to my cave...

Actually, I figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that you're probably getting about 20 emails a day from loser guys saying things like "Hi, your so hot, I just broke up with my girlfriend and I have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job someday soon"... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people and you seemed like you might be more than just another pretty face.

~M

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Lisa G.
Date: Sep 4, 2007 6:46 PM


no idea

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Me
Date: Sep 4, 2007 5:50 PM


Do you remember 'My Little Pony'? All the girls way back in grade school would bring them to school like they were hot shit. I have no idea why but I was thinking about this the other day, and I can't remember... did they have powers? Like, I remember they could fly, but I thought they also had little symbols on the hip or something that gave them powers, but they were like, lame-ass powers like Sharing and Honor or some shit. My sister used to have them and I'd play GI Joes with them, like, GI Joe would fly into battle on My Little Pony, then blast Cobra with a fuckin machine gun...

Just wondering...

[Superfreak]

good job man, glad to see that this posted resulted in a # close for you.

I usually keep the opener short and simple, other wise it looks more like a line.



Subject: RE: RE: RE: OMG
Body: Very original!

Haha you're right on the "loser" guys. Or the ones who request me, then their profiles basically describes them as sex-addicts. Yes, I get those quite frequently.

Nice change, thank you! :) And thank you for the compliment!

I hope you have a great night!

♥ Cassandra B.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 5, 2007 11:22 PM


NP

Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that youre probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, Im freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Cassandra Brett
Date: Sep 3, 2007 7:57 PM


Huh?!

haha. Im confused.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: Sep 3, 2007 9:53 PM


I want to speak to the deepest part of who you
truly are.

here is one of the current online pickups that I have going on so you can see her response.

I try to get them to interact so I can get a feel for there personality. As you can see here she actually complements me on being original and a good change from the other guys that message her.


but all in all I still complement you on your online game as you did get a close and in the end that is really what matters.

Plus my game is different than most guys, I usually come off as very deep to women.

I call that the passion game of pickup. I will try and find a good example later and post it.

Basically I will mention something simple but word it in a way that is filled with emotion and takes her on an adventure.

[Dox]

Well played, Westside.

I have a question though regarding Myspace game - I've tried it out a time or two, sending the same message to multiple gals just to see if I'd get anything back, and so far I've gotten absolutely nothing. Is there anything that you know of that would throw up a red flag that this particular lady is perceptive to online chat?

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

Your profile or photos maybe, Dox?

[Dox]

it's certainly possible, the photos arent bad, but the profile could use a bit o' sprucing up...

[Superfreak]

Ok went back to the archives to show just how quick you can close girls on Myspace. Now remember that what I mean by close is to get an IM or # from them. Once you get one of those it is easy to escalate in real time in to a hook up, date and of course from there into a day two or F-close

Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: OMG
Body: k i will do that! :)
my sn is **********



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 25, 2006 3:46 PM

I find that hard to believe but what ever, If you want you can hit me up on yahoo IM Superfrk_2000



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: JENNIFER
Date: May 25, 2006 3:36 PM

lol! don't have that many guys emailing me! :) but again thanks! ur a sweetheart! :)



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 24, 2006 6:02 PM

Just being different than the 100's of other guys emailing you.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: JENNIFER
Date: May 24, 2006 4:14 AM

wow! i guess i should say thanks! :)



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 3:38 PM

the retarded thing about you is that on the one hand, you have this Im a
sweet, girl from a small town act but you are so fucking passionate I feel
like youre ready to burst out of your skin with raw energy

[Superfreak]

Also here is another one from the archives that shows how to use passions.

I think this is actually the first one were I try to pull info from the girl in order to later use that info to pick her up. As I go thru my stash of saved messages I will try to show some even better examples.

Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: OMG
Body: im at *********@yahoo.com!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 24, 2006 9:13 PM

Hey if you want you can hit me up on Yahoo IM under superfrk_2000 or msn as shead001@msn.com


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 24, 2006 7:45 PM

i did to! please keep in touch!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 24, 2006 6:05 PM

Hey I really enjoyed our chat, holler back at me sometime.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 23, 2006 9:47 PM

i know exactly what u mean!!!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 9:44 PM

Same here, I just feel connected and a peace when I am surrounded by nature. Don't get me wrong I love the convince of living in a city and love being around people its just that sometimes I feel more connected to the world when I am outdoors then I have ever felt in a room full of people.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 23, 2006 9:38 PM

we have alot in common cuz i hate hunting also. i cry if i hit a rabbit in the rd! just love anything outside!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 9:29 PM

I usually try to keep pretty busy, I have a couple of books in the works that I am writing, I love the outdoors, fishing, hiking, just laying under a starry night sky talking is also pretty cool. I have to admit though I do not hunt at all, if I shoot an animal it is with a camera. Not a vegan or anything like that, just do not think I need to boost my ego by killing a helpless animal.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 23, 2006 9:17 PM

i love anything outdoors!!! i draw some, do alot of craft shit for people. i work 12 hr. shifts so dont have alot of time for much!!! what about u?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 9:12 PM

The same really, I work in an office all day,
so just trying to chill and think about the things that I am passionate about in life?

Do yo have any passions, I mean like hobbies and shit.



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 23, 2006 9:08 PM

sorry but dont have 100 guys emailin me!! not much goin on here. just relaxin after long day at work!! what bout u?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 9:03 PM

NP, Just thought I would be differnt from the other 100's of guys that email you. It is true that you are cute but what else you got going on?


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: stacy
Date: May 23, 2006 8:59 PM

thank u!!



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Superfrk
Date: May 23, 2006 8:53 PM

You are just too fucking adorable

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: JENNIFER
Date: May 25, 2006 3:36 PM

lol! don't have that many guys emailing me! :) but again thanks! ur a sweetheart! :)


This is interesting. I created a female account once just to see why the bitch shields were so high on Myspace. The account I created was of a HB9. I put the profile on private because most hot girls have their profile set to private.

I had the profile for about two months, and only got four messages from guys - the messages were typical AFC bullshit messages. Moreover, I got about six friend requests, and most of the guys didn't even send a message with their friend request.

I assume if my profile wasn't on private, the messages would have increased by 200 percent.

This is a sharp contrast to online dating sites, - on those sites women get bombarded by messages.

The Mystery of the Myspace Bitch Shield

They are more likely to give their phone number out on AIM than Myspace I guess - AIM is more personable due to the many negative connotations associated with Myspace. "O, he is one of those Myspace weird guys," but one of those AIM guys does not apply. AIM simulates a real time chat in reality more so than a Myspace email due to it's short delays in between responses.

Yet transferring from Myspace to another online form of chatting can be superfluous and more time consuming. To get an AIM screen name is a very small request, yet makes a huge difference.

The AIM close should take place early in the interaction to avoid being labeled and before developing rapport.

Of course, most women must have a Horror Story associated with an internet dating experience to affirm their belief that online dating is creepy and bad - this prevents cognitive dissonance. However, if asked about their horror story, the story sounds very common and trivial and some may not be willing to relate their story for that reason.

[Bret Rigby]

As a social experiment of sorts, I tried your method for online game.

The girls in my area are very used to guys randomly emailing them daily(the thing that sucks living in the city with the largest Naval base in the world). So these girls are very used to it.

I'm going to say I used your openers with about 20 girls.

Of about the 15 that actually opened it, 3 replied. Then on them, I did your cold read. Granted, it's a great cold read.. it's rather long. At which point 2 of them replied with how on it was and asked how I did it. And I stuck to your method. As soon as I brought up the friend thing, lost both.

First off, the attrition rate of those openers are awful. There are(or at least has to be) better online openers.

And if I am not mistaken what is one of the first rules of attraction?

..

If you answered 'approach indirectly' you are right! The reason the attrition rate for those openers is so high is because you are coming off predatory and telegraphing interest. As proof of this I sent another opener to 5 girls. It was something very indirect and innocent. It was, "Ya know who I just realized you look like?" Of the 4 who opened the message, 3 replied. Why though? Because like I said, it's innocent. The point of the opener isn't to attract, it's to open. It's basic, you're method doesn't work on socialized women.

..Not to flame or anything.

[Superfreak]

Well Bret all I can really say is it would help if you actually posted the responses , then I could tell you exactly why you lost them.

I can show you many post of guys that have had great success with this method on one of the myspace groups I post at.

Also there is a thing called calibration. You need to adjust the messages a bit to fit your environment. Though if you give me an area code to work with and a few days and I will assure you that I can show you the proof in the pudding so to speak that they do work. The reason I know this is that this method has been used all over America and even in a few other countries as well.

Also the cold read was posted in an example of a continuing message where the girl contacted me after the original chain. The thing is with the cold read material is that it is who I am, what I sent them was true and genuine. As it was congruent to who I am.

[Slick]

I used one of your cold reads, so I feel like giving back
to this thread.

Here guys, try this opener: "Nice hair....is it real?"

Slick

[Bret Rigby]

Congruency online? You can make yourself out to whoever you want to be.

[Urbanite]

I used one of your cold reads, so I feel like giving back
to this thread.

Here guys, try this opener: "Nice hair....is it real?"

Slick


I'd love a report on how this one works for you.

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

Nice hair, is it real? That Myspace opener is a year old, there is a huge thread at the TMM forums where about a 1000 guys tried this one out.

[Superfreak]

Well the important thing is that the ones that are getting it are understanding the steps.

The opener should be a shock type statement. It is also a DQ in the fact that the uptight ones will never answer the message. If they answer then you calibrate your game plan off her response.

So yes there is calibration online and there is also congruency. Congruency Online means that your game comes across as a reflection of you and also how well you can control how she feels about you.

This is important if you are actually wanting to take it off line and also so that when you do meet you come across as that interesting guy online that she just had to meet.

[Superfreak]

Here is another one from a 18 year old HB9, being I am 32 it is a great feeling to have them as for your IM or #

Subject: Wow
Body: Well, figured I would send you something a little different. Something tells me that you're probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like Hi, I'm freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids... but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job... etc.

In any event just trying to meet some cool people on here as friends (hey, I am not that easy) and you seem like you just might be more than just another pretty face.

Her is her response:

Subject: RE: Wow
Body: Hey, lol your right. You seem cool. We should chat some time and get to know each other. Send me your msn addy ttyl

[Slick]

No, reallyfatpatheticslob.... it isn't.

It is similar... but not an exact. It's modified,
this version works far better. It's like there's
drinking water... and filtered drinking water.
Would you refurr to both as exacts?

"You" probably would, the majority would nay.

Slick

[Carnage]

This thread inspired me to examine past myspace message-exchanges that ended with a screen name/# close (before learning *any* game), and in contrast to some of the community's results, it was like pulling teeth..... with a potato peeler. I still have a *lot* to learn.

I met 4 girls through myspace, after trying to contact about 30. Of the four, two were not like the photos promised, the third was a solid short-term FB, and the other one, I ended up taking from her boyfriend, and seeing for 7 months.

Same sport, different playing field.

[Slick]

Superfreak, this is the response to the cold read I
used (I use the one about her being beautiful and smart,
and how ignorant other people are to this):

of course you're right.
you have a way with words boy.
but the thing is, you didn't make that up about me, i'm sure you send that to everyone.
believe it or not, it was right on, but it's also right on with lots of other people out there too.
it could be about anyone.

I usually don't ask this, but can I have help with a response?
Figured I'd go and ask the advice of the originator before trying
this out my own way.

Slick

[mik3b4321]

i apologized for stealing your thread. but, what do you guys think im doing so far?

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: WOW
Body:

1) I've been a personal trainer for 5 years and love it

2) I started playing piano by ear as a kid but just recently started to read music over the last few years.

3) I have a bet going on with a friend to see who will go to the playoffs (baseball)

Thats 3 things.. they may not be interesting but i don't know you well enough to tell you anything "deeper" than that.

What about you?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Mc. Lovin
Date: Sep 11, 2007 1:39 PM


well, if i ask you to name three things about yourself & would like to get to know you better what would they be?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 10, 2007 10:59 AM


all i said was THANK YOU. sheesh.. and now i see that was faaar from a compliment.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 8:36 PM


dont feel all flattered now.. i dont know you yet. i dont feel any attractions yet. it was just your teeth reminds me of bugs bunny. they re quite cute, but, they reminds me of bugs bunny.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 9, 2007 10:25 PM


hehe.. whats too bad? i THINK that was a compliment earlier.. if it was.. THANK YOU!!! =0)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 4:01 PM


that s too bad... you look like someone I’d like to meet.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 9, 2007 12:00 PM


LOL!! huuuh?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 12:30 AM


Wow.
That's Not You, Take those pictures off and stop faking everyone.

[Superfreak]

i apologized for stealing your thread. but, what do you guys think im doing so far?

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: WOW
Body:

1) I've been a personal trainer for 5 years and love it

2) I started playing piano by ear as a kid but just recently started to read music over the last few years.

3) I have a bet going on with a friend to see who will go to the playoffs (baseball)

Thats 3 things.. they may not be interesting but i don't know you well enough to tell you anything "deeper" than that.

What about you?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Mc. Lovin
Date: Sep 11, 2007 1:39 PM


well, if i ask you to name three things about yourself & would like to get to know you better what would they be?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 10, 2007 10:59 AM


all i said was THANK YOU. sheesh.. and now i see that was faaar from a compliment.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 8:36 PM


dont feel all flattered now.. i dont know you yet. i dont feel any attractions yet. it was just your teeth reminds me of bugs bunny. they re quite cute, but, they reminds me of bugs bunny.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 9, 2007 10:25 PM


hehe.. whats too bad? i THINK that was a compliment earlier.. if it was.. THANK YOU!!! =0)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 4:01 PM


that s too bad... you look like someone I’d like to meet.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ALISON
Date: Sep 9, 2007 12:00 PM


LOL!! huuuh?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Paint_Baller
Date: Sep 9, 2007 12:30 AM


Wow.
That's Not You, Take those pictures off and stop faking everyone.




First off you don't need to apologize as this is what the tread is all about.

now there are many problems with what you did but first I will say the opener is fine. Glad you came up with something original.

You really can not directly neg her like that as she can not see that you are actually joking. So instead of negging her it comes off as an insult. Though she still seemed to be playing along and not getting mad, so she would have probably really been a cool chick.

Here is some of your convo I will change a bit:

you look like someone I’d like to meet, too bad you are really probably some 40 year old guy trying to pray on guys like me.

then let her answer and react accordingly. Once you have her interest then you should get a bit real and build comfort.

[Slick]

Ha...

Well I'm sure you'll be glad to know
I attempted following up on my own
and closed.

You really do have some good material,
if there's a best of created for this forum
at any time. This'll definetly get my vote.

Slick

[Superfreak]

Ha...

Well I'm sure you'll be glad to know
I attempted following up on my own
and closed.

You really do have some good material,
if there's a best of creative for this forum
at any time. This'll definetly get my vote.

Slick

Thanks Slick,

I tried typing out a response to your question and my comp rebooted when I was almost finish so it never posted.

The hot chick profile you used was created like a FBI criminal profile but with truisms that apply to attractive girls between 18 - 35. A truism is either a true statement or a statement that the targets ego will except as true.

Anyways it was never actually meant to be used as a whole but to be used as a model to develop cold reads, stories, and routines.

I mainly at the time I used it in Myspace game was just testing it to get feed back as to the validity of the profile.

If any of you look on my myspace profile comments my myspace handle is also Superfrk. you will see a response to that hot chick profile from Heidi Cortez a former playmate of the year. She is also the owner of the biggest tanning salon chain in the US.

So through testing I have no doubt that the info in it is valid, for best results though I would small chunk it and feed them a little at a time.

Or use the info in a story. Such as a girl stalking you at work. The reason for this is that if you tell a story were you posses the traits of the hot chick then she will relate the story to her own experiences and like attracts like.

Sorry again for the late reply to your question

[Alexkx3]

This is one i recently tried, with a girl I never had much succes with. The girl is a dentist btw and "castle" is our town "newcastle" (not the geordie one)
me:
Hey, I g2g out soon but need ure opinion on something "miss dentist" lol, flossing, b4 or after u brush?, i needed n experts opinion here, but none where around so... i'm jokin btw!

(false time constrait followed by the classic followed by a neg because she gets loads of guys posting "ure so fit!")

her:
haha well i say b4 then after brush ur brushin all the plaque away that u have just flossed out lol u ok? u off up castle? xxx

(IOI)

me:
Well I guess I'll trust ure opinion! lol, you goin down castle then? i've never seen u down there, u must not get out much i guess, i'll have to take u out one time, show you how it all works lol

(Neg, reverse the question control the convo, neg and DHV)

her:
actually mr i use to go out all the time every wednesday i was in gatsbys lol but recently i havent been able to go out cuz of ma money need to pay off stuff so yea lol not out tonite will let u kno wen im next out xxx

(mr? IOI? she has to qualify herself to me, and makes excuses so she see's me as HV male)

[mik3b4321]

First off you don't need to apologize as this is what the tread is all about.

now there are many problems with what you did but first I will say the opener is fine. Glad you came up with something original.

You really can not directly neg her like that as she can not see that you are actually joking. So instead of negging her it comes off as an insult. Though she still seemed to be playing along and not getting mad, so she would have probably really been a cool chick.

Here is some of your convo I will change a bit:

you look like someone I’d like to meet, too bad you are really probably some 40 year old guy trying to pray on guys like me.

then let her answer and react accordingly. Once you have her interest then you should get a bit real and build comfort.

yep. you re exactly right. she stopped replying on the last neg. but, i sent her another message saying "anyway, piano? seems interesting.. do you do song/piano cover? i would love to hear some! we'll have simon as a judge! "
all i have to do now is wait wether she replies in a week or not. then, look for another target.

[Superfreak]

Oh please guys make sure you read the other 5 -10 replys where I post the structure.

If you follow the structure this shit is really easy.

[English Mick]

superfreak, you are right man!! i followed it exactly! here it is:

From X:
haha "dawsons creek gone wrong".. nice! sure, my msn is X_QWERTY@hotmail.com - don't laugh, i created it when i was 12 or something, and have stuck with it ever since! Enjoy your lab class :)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tangy
Date: 03 Oct 2007, 15:31


you guys can definately get into ppls heads thats the scary thing, haha! i go to school at valdosta state university which is in georgia, right above florida, just imagine dawson's creek gone wrong and thats what its like here. its fun though as its very different from back at home, its almost like TV here, you have your jocks, the cheerleaders, the geeks, and everybody else. o yeah and your country rednecks (theyre the most fun to hang out with). its like a different world over here.

hey, its been real fun talking with you, you seem like a very smart girl that has a strong energy around her, i have to go to my lab class in a min, but we should talk again soon, i don't usually spend too much time on myspace so is there any other way to talk.. say msn?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: X
Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:58 PM


haha how can you base everyone else who studies psychology on one individual? that's not very clever of you :P

indie music is good, i will have to agree with you there! so where do you go to uni? i read something about america on your profile page??

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tangy
Date: 03 Oct 2007, 14:51


well, i'm a very energetic person that likes to keep busy with things, but now and again i like being lazy and playing the guitar (sometimes lazy days are the best days). I have to say though, i spend most of my time studying since im a 4th yr pre medical student at uni right now planning to go to medical school. i guess you could say i have my head screwed on too cus i ihave a good plan of what i want to do with my life. i adore music, mainly indie but, im trying to open myself up to other types of music!

so..youre majoring in psych ey, i used to date a girl who had a degree in psychology, and id have to say... you guys are trouble!! :)
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: X
Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:25 PM


haha well aren't you cheeky? i'm not going to big myself up for you, but i like who i am; i'm very deep and thoughtful, which sometimes can be a pain.. but i'd say i've got my head screwed on. did a btec in childcare instead of a levels, so i'm a level 3 nursery nurse in the holidays, but also about to go into my second year of studying psychology at university. LOVE films, but they would be world cinema or indie films.

SO.. what have you got going for you eh?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tangy
Date: 03 Oct 2007, 14:06


thankyou :) i bet u have 100s of guys all the time adding u and saying how pretty you, but beauty is common these days, what else have u got going on for u?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: X
Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:23 AM


hehehe thanks, you're quite hot yourself :)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tangy
Date: 03 Oct 2007, 02:49


Hi, youre just too fucking adorable


any comments superfreak?

[mik3b4321]

MY COMMENT: hmm.. which part? stretching your face? hey. a great smile s a HUGE requirement for me! quick question, i just got this TIDE laundry detergent with baking soda. the question is, is baking soda SAFE for bright color shirts? i just dont wanna use it then realizing, why i cant find my bright shirts!

HER REPLY ON THE COMMENT:haha.. actually i DID understand what you said. it just threw me off. thank you! ;0) I did absolutely nothing this weekend. It was really nice!! Have a good week.

then, she stopped replying.. should i pull the "im monumentarilly sorry. i didnt mean to step over your boundaries" stuff? i think im missing up! online games pretty hard to work wit. hard to tell the iois, her reaction, & what she s thinking right now..

[Stryker]

is it possible to have AA while online gaming??? haha....I think i just experienced

it. I almost couldnt send a "You are so adorable... its fucking sickening" line to a

girl. My inner-AFC was like TELL HER YOU LIKE HER MUSIC seclection!!! lol...Im :D

[Match]

EDIT: Nevermind, scratch my comment below. You can send most people messages w/o being their friend first. It depends on the settings they put on their profile.

I think Myspace recently changed their messaging rules so now you have to be someone's friend before you can message them. Makes this a little harder b/c you have to friend request them first now.

[mattl2009]

Usually if a girl does not reply within 3 or 4 days i will send her another message. Something along the lines of: Are you playing hard to get? Already? I love it, nice :) Here's a free tip, you're supposed to play hard to get after we meet, not before. E-mail me back.

That will usually get a reply out of them. And if they don't reply after that, they aren't worth wasting your time on. I have had probably 85-90& success when they don't reply to the first message and then i send them that one.

[mattl2009]

i just sent out the e-mail that you sent out first, and the girl replied with a haha thanks? and then gave me her aim...i didn't even have to ask for it!

[Lunaris]

10/7/07 bump on this question please guys

hey guys, stuck in a rut early in my online game (it's early on sat and i'm bored lol). it seems like i got her to qualify herself but i'm stuck on what to say next

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From:hb9
Date: Oct 6, 2007 1:37 AM


ha ha im the shit.. .and i dont think im like mega hot or anything. im smart and i cant make people laugh. i have a lot of deep thoughts and experiences behind this blonde hair. and i like A LOT of music but i dont like to sit online and list it. ya know? i get ADD from all that. i figure that when people get to know me then they will know what kind of music i like and the important things like that...

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: me
Date: Oct 5, 2007 5:54 AM


lol i hate country music too, i just feel that your answer is a bit of a cop out, it doesn't say anything about you. I mean your very pretty,but beauty is common.What do you have going for you more than your looks? though you do like third eye blind so you can't be that bad =P

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: hb9
Date: Oct 4, 2007 4:15 PM


why do you care that i hate country music? i like pretty much all music but i just cant take country... sorry its nothing personal i promise

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ME
Date: Oct 3, 2007 7:46 AM


you didn't think saying you like anything except country would go unnoticed? shame

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: hb9
Date: Oct 2, 2007 11:48 AM

awesome

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ME
Date: Oct 1, 2007 9:20 AM


your a dork

[usctrojanman29]

Well I tried out Superfreak's opener and got the following 2 reponses in the last few hours...

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From: Ca'Ra'Jo'
Date: Oct 6, 2007 6:32 PM


Thank You Sir. Where did you come from?


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From: ♥JANE♥®
Date: Oct 6, 2007 6:09 PM


thanks love xx

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From: Martin
Date: Oct 6, 2007 5:01 PM


You are so adorable... its freakin sickening.

[Superfreak]

Hey guys,

Really glad to see that the people that actually tried this stuff are starting to get it and are adding to it. Evolution is the name of the game.

As far as the ones with questions as far as where to go from here etc... Most the post looked like you where doing fine, where you should be taking it is to the next lvl. Which means you need to close to an IM or #. Or even mention a party, an event or band you are going to see and get her to meet you there. As with any of my online advice start to put some personal passion into it.

Closing is important though just like in live game you have to escalate the interaction.

Use the structure I have posted to get there attention, attract them, then personalize it and build a connection. Talk about things you are passionate about. Then take it from offline and into reality.

Someone posted earlier that there is no congruence online, but really that is very short sided. The ideal is to really meet them and to get a date with them. You do not want to build them up to an expectation that will fail when they meet you. You still have to be the same cool person in reality as you were online with them.

I personally prefer live game, but at the same time I really do enjoy Online game as well and have learned lots that I can apply to live game. Online it is all about making a deep connection with the girl. In live game you can apply the lessons learned online in that phase of pickup. Same with IM game, in IM game you have to be able to flirt and you are stripped of many of the tools you would have in live game, such as body language, voice tonality, mannerisms.

You have to create the energy of the interaction with only your words. You also have to read the girl using only what she says in text. You have to be able to personalize your game to fit her.

Think of online game as a tool or an exercise to work on rapport, it is like a screw driver in your PUA tool box. Integrate that into your live game. Think about it, if you can develop a connection using only plain text then how powerful do you think your words can be when combined with BL, tonality, gestures, and kino.

Also with online game you can reach out and meet girls you may not have met other wise. I moved to a small town to spend time with my grandpa, he is 95 currently. When I was in a large town in Florida, it was no problem going out and meeting people every night. Currently though most my live gaming is done 65 miles away in the closest big city. Online game has helped me to meet girls from other places. (improved the quantity of girls that meet my qualifications)
Also it lets me gather details such as where the best clubs are, events, etc...

In my town all bars are 21 and up, most the shift in new pussy are University girls. So online game also allows me to expand into that market.

Online game is just a tool though.