Solo at the mall?

[czook]

So I barely know this girl that works at hollister in the mall. Ive seen her at a party, and she remembers me, she added me on facebook, posted on her wall, she wrote back, whatever, polite things right. now I know she works on the weekends, so i'm going today, but i'm trying to think of the best opener to use, and some negs after.

I was thinking about the "You and me wouldn't get along.."

but it seems too uncomfortable since I don't know her that well.

And for some reason I don't think a question opener would work like "Who lies more.." or something like that.

Right now I am leaning towards the g-string on the floor opener but again, it seems even MORE awkward since I barely know her.

Any ideas or could anyone point me in the right direction?

[~Courage~]

The key purpose of opening a set using MM, is to FAKE rapport with people you don't even know, doing so in a manner that does not telegraph interest until A2 has been completed. By you showing up there, i would make sure you have at least an intent of buying something, otherwise, she will know that you are there just to see her, thus telegraphing your interest in her. I can't set you routine stack for you, but good luck friend.

[czook]

Oh I am going to buy something, would asking her what she thinks of it be a good idea? she will obviously say yes so I buy it (i'm guessing), and I thought about bringing that up, then just completely putting it back.

I might even just go into "how do you know my friends etc..."

We will see how it goes. My biggest concern is the anxiety.

[-Silver-]

So I barely know this girl that works at hollister in the mall. Ive seen her at a party, and she remembers me, she added me on facebook, posted on her wall, she wrote back, whatever, polite things right. now I know she works on the weekends, so i'm going today, but i'm trying to think of the best opener to use, and some negs after.

I was thinking about the "You and me wouldn't get along.."

First of all, that's not so much a neg, it's a false disqualifier. Although it produces similar results by lowering her perceived value in comparison to yours, it should be used during late A2 or early A3, baiting her into qualifying herself as to why you would get along with each other. A neg could be: 'Do they make you wear those clothes then? - Oh, well they're nice.' if she wears normal clothes to work (not sure if hollister has a uniform, i've never heard of it). Otherwise, just go for a similar version, using the classic hair neg: 'Do they make you wear your hair up/down?'

Right now I am leaning towards the g-string on the floor opener but again, it seems even MORE awkward since I barely know her.

You do realize that these openers are used on people who we don't know at all right? Go ask that opener to 5-10 random girls in the mall, and so long as you tell it with confidence, they will laugh every time! Essentially the opener isn't the most important part, but a way to get a conversation going. By asking someone's opinion, you are providing a reason for talking to them so they won't wonder if you're hitting on them at the start of your sarge. Using an opener as simple as 'Hi' is perfectly fine, but you're likely to find that an opinion opener gets the conversation rolling and helps prevent the girl wondering the above, essentially giving you a good head start. Clearly you're very new to this game, but don't let that get you down! Practice is the only thing that will help you improve, so just trust the material and the method, and go for it! If you'd rather practice on some random girls in town first to reduce the chances of screwing up with your hollister's girl, then go for it. Most importantly, if you haven't read The Mystery Method yet, then go buy a copy from amazon! It'll clear a lot up for you once you've got the principles under your belt.

Good luck buddy!

-Silver-

[czook]

Ordered it tonight, thanks for the help.

[Pipedreamz]

Ask her what she thinks about something, If she says she likes it then say "yeah its so awesome Im going to have to get something like this instead..."

[Voice]

Isn't that a DLV? Seeking her approval? In my experience it is and it doesn't work. You should know what you like and not care what she thinks about it.

"Silver's lines would work best i think. or something similar.

[Tsudo]

Isn't that a DLV? Seeking her approval? In my experience it is and it doesn't work. You should know what you like and not care what she thinks about it.

"Silver's lines would work best i think. or something similar.

Sorry to hijack. But, what if he really does agree with her? What if the question was about pizza, and he liked it too. Is he supposed to disagree then perhaps turn it around on her later on that he DOES like pizza? Wouldn't that present the identity that he was choosing to willfully disagree with her; Lying??

[-Silver-]

Sorry to hijack. But, what if he really does agree with her? What if the question was about pizza, and he liked it too. Is he supposed to disagree then perhaps turn it around on her later on that he DOES like pizza? Wouldn't that present the identity that he was choosing to willfully disagree with her; Lying??

You guys got completely the wrong idea about what he meant with that. It's a popular cocky/funny routine: 'Hey what do you think looks better? Should I get this in purple or red?' - 'Oh I think red looks best!' - 'Awesome, i'll get it in purple then.' You're bound to get a laugh, and she'll start thinking of you as more interesting than all the other customers she deals with. Stack to some DHVs!

-Silver-

[Tsudo]

You guys got completely the wrong idea about what he meant with that. It's a popular cocky/funny routine: 'Hey what do you think looks better? Should I get this in purple or red?' - 'Oh I think red looks best!' - 'Awesome, i'll get it in purple then.' You're bound to get a laugh, and she'll start thinking of you as more interesting than all the other customers she deals with. Stack to some DHVs!

-Silver-

I understand pipedreamz notation, it was voices which I was questioning. But you're right, I've said things like, "Sweet, I'll get *one she didn't say*" before and it does get a laugh.

[Kinderhauz]

I think you are thinking way too much about this. You're trying to plan out how the entire interaction is going to go inside your head. If you do this, you're going to get flustered when you finally meet her in real life and the interaction doesn't follow the pre-determined model you have in your head.

Just go talk to her. Don't focus so much on what you specifically want to say. MM is a METHOD, not a script. I especially wouldn't stress so much on openers since you already know her. You could open with "Hey you, what's up?" Or make some joke about how her job sucks. "Another day in paradise, huh?"

The other day I built great rapport with a girl working at the mall by asking her advice on wearing ties, since I'm going to have to wear them for my job. When I was talking to her about this, I was SMILING and had ENERGY. Those were the key things. Even though I was talking to her about the most boring topic ever, she was smiling and laughing because my energy was infectious.

I cannot emphasize this enough -- SMILE! And be enthusiastic.

[czook]

Alright I took a lot of the advice and hooked up with her at a party this weekend after I picked her up from work. Having only talked to her friday and the party was that night.

I think what helped me was that I showed a lot more expression like I pretended to be WAY more surprised than I actually was , stuff like that, over-exaggerating with positive emotions.

Worked wonders.





And her best friend knows I did and thanks it's hilarious.

So now i'm going to try and go for both. Ill let you know.