View Full Version : Day Game at University. Help!
chinky_z
10-10-2007, 03:25 AM
Any tips in gaming girls on campus or in a class? types of openers? Routines?
Inferno
10-10-2007, 10:03 AM
I have found that the best think to do is tease the girl once your in A2. Negging goes a long way but don't ask questions in the classroom setting because most of the time in my experience people are listening in on you. Stick with Teasing and statements and storytelling after class if you have the time is great. During class stay talkative if the class permits. This shows to her that your comfortable in this setting and people will put value on you because you stick out more.
My personal favorite two classes to game in are speech classes and English classes. Any class that offers alot of talking is great.
One way i open is to say
"Aren't you excited for classes to start" sacrastically of course, almost a neg right of the bat
This just breaks the ice. Most of the time the reactions is a simple Yes or No. Go into talking about the class and make funny comments of people in the class room (if there not in the room) or the teacher. Just don't be mean about your teasing of other people. Once she starts to be receptive i normally tell a few stories about my travels in Japan. This works almost every time to create a lot of interest in the conversation. At this point i throw in a comment about how we don't have much time till class starts. Then go through a couple of Bait-Hook-Reel-Release.
Up until this point i have done easily 75% of the conversation. But keep this up over several class periods before you go for a number or set up a DAY2
chinky_z
10-10-2007, 02:42 PM
That's some very good info bro, thx alot
What about on campus and u see a hot girl walking toward/pass/cross(moving targets)?
Does direct openers ever work (Havn't got the balls to try these out)?
-Directly show interest, and be genuine(correct tone + BL) about it.
Ex: stop(are ther a right way to stop the target?) the target, and say "Hey, I know this is totally random, but you look cute(or interesting) and i really want to talk to you, but i gtg to class. So gimme you #, and we can meet up for coffe later."...any ideas?
and any ideas about a girl's state of mind on college campuses.
Anyone who got experience gaming in colleges please share I would appraciate it very much.
Session
10-10-2007, 05:21 PM
What's up Z? From personal experience, moving targets on campus are extremely difficult, most girls have got places to go and they aren't expecting to be stopped on the sidewalk by a stranger (especially one that is explicitely hitting on them).
ASD is also on ultra-alert because during the day, in a crowded place (I go to a Big Ten, so it's crowded here at least), girls will often give yes/no answers or blow you off by giving their own time constraint. Giving your own time constraint also doesn't work very well cause they are already on the move, they won't care.
The one time I number closed, the girl was lingering on a sidewalk (probably a little drunk), I asked her for directions and she was basically gaming me. I say just stick to parties.
b1_returns
10-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Yo Z whats poppin.. Anyways i'm in the same boat and been gaming some girls in college.. First you gotta know the hot spots where all the girls chill at...This can be student Unions, libraries, computer rooms, certain areas where people hang out, or where I got it, an outside smoking area filled with HBS..Its harder to game in class cuz you got contraints and everything going against you...Your gaming and the teacher comes in and now he wants his attention...But one thing I read and have tried is if you got a Hb next to you, you draw a tic tak toe on the paper and give it to her while the professor is speaking his boring lecture...99.9% of the girls played i've tried this on have played and only one girl had rejected it ! But if you rlly wanna strike up a conversation and your in class is to strike a convo about the class itself ! Whetehr its boring or not who cares...There you go you broke ice and from there you can transition to anything ! Get there number and ask them to study outside of class or to have lunch with you there has to be tons of cafes and shit where ur at
Safari
10-10-2007, 07:10 PM
Direct game and situational stuff can work well during the day but only if you're congruent with it. I find that I get the best results by calming walking up to girls that are seated wherever and just smiling and saying "hi" and then "how are you?" I know this is to some extent contrary to theory and I certainly wouldn't try it in a club or bar. But at college it opens well and I move quickly into talking about myself to get the focus off of her after the "how are you?"
Another interesting thing I've been toying with... At the end of the day I'll sit on a bench in a 'high traffic' area. The girls will walk by I'll just start calming waving before they even look. They'll see me out of the corner of their eye and look. As soon as they do that I'll wave some more and keep waving, smiling, and making eye contact until they slow and stop. The I'll say "hi" just loud enough for them to hear and they'll walk over to me (I haven't gotten up and have relaxed, stationary body language) at which point I'll ask them how they are and start talking about whatever.
It works because my body language conveys that I completely expect them to stop walking and come talk to me. I just act as though their already an acquaintance of mine and I'm just too lazy to get up and walk to them. This works best at the end of the day because the girls have nowhere to be and are walking slower to begin with.
mR. PotenTial
10-10-2007, 07:46 PM
This is an area of 'Game', some PUA's can capitalize on and make good $$$ from I suspeect because there isn't a lot of info on how to successfully 'day-game' or anything specific made for 'campus/college-game'. Not that I've come across anyway... maybe I've just been unfortunate...
And yet the setting, the environment, the girls and their state is VERY DIFFERENT to how it is in big loud parties or clubs at night. So while somethings are general and always needed like congruency and confidence, certain things that work at night are pretty much made for club or club-like atmospheres and is not practical or as useful for gaming cheeks in bright sunlight in High-schools and colleges.
Yet, many of these colleges are filled with great looking chicks who are open to meeting new people if the right guys approach them. So we must not miss out on these opportunities. :p
I for one, have a lot of room for improvement in my 'day-game' and I think a lot of people might be in the same boat because a LOT of what we've been told and read not just by Mystery or MM but many other programs on this topic have been about how to game these chicks at night and in places like clubs.
A lot changes and is different between that and gaming in day-time on campus however. Certain things suddenly matter more now in order to attract you targets and some less.
I like this thread then, chinkyZ. It can potentially become a really useful thread to read. Let's hope for that annd make it happen.
hav0c
10-12-2007, 07:07 PM
There's no way they can make $$$ on teaching college kids college game, college students have no money for that...that's why they don't do it. Don't you think they would've done it by now, knowing most of the PUA's in training are college students.
Seraf24
10-17-2007, 11:53 PM
I've found that the biggest difference b/t Day Game and Night Game is that sometimes during the day, women aren't in that "Social Mood."
With that said, there's plenty of times during the beginning of the semesters/trimesters (or however ur college works) where women are in that "Social Mood." The first club meetings of the semester/trimester is usually a goldmine for everyone to be in a social mood. Find a first club meeting of the year and start opening sets.
It's amazing how open people can be during the first club meeting of the year. You can literally just introduce yourself and just start talking and gaming from there.
I opened a 3 set and pulled off the best friends test and read two of the girls palms at the same time. It was easy.
-Seraf
Session
10-19-2007, 03:55 PM
I've recently field tested a pretty good single-set opener
It is designed for the cafeteria, and I've only tested it on girls who are alone and sit at tables near walking spaces.
Me: "Hey, are you sitting alone?" (sound almost surprised)
HB: "Um, yeah."
Me: "Oh... save this seat for me then." (make it sound like the idea just hit you, and smile)
Walk away to get food.
This is good when you return, you can act like you two are already in rapport.
Megedeh
11-13-2007, 03:21 AM
I'm gonna ask it here, because it's just a very small question.
When you're talking to someone, is it advisable to say hello to everyone you know passing by? As a sign of social alphaness? Or is it kind of rude to interrupt the conversation (only slightly) to raise your hand or nod?
(I'm asking it here, because it's more likely and common to have a lot of people you know passing by in college, than it is in a mall or a supermarket)
miracle88
11-17-2007, 02:48 PM
I find it very useful to wave to people I know. Oftentimes, especially if it is a girl, it can raise your value. I have had a girl come over to the set and talk to me, which not only helped me game the girl i was talking to, but also the girl who came in to the set. so don't think your being rude, if anything your being very rude to your friends who pass by. And if its just a wave, start the convo back where it was
I find it is advisable to say hi to people you know and it is often helpful to introduce the target to your friend and vice versa.
willmackenzie
01-18-2008, 12:30 PM
College game can be very easy!
Put on a friendly smile, be comfortable in your skin, and be extroverted. Your goal is to just make the interaction FUN for you and whoever you're befriending.
There is a state of mind that you put yourself into where you are just more enjoyable to be around than 90% of people on campus. I often act as if I'm already acquainted with them, and I crack small sarcastic jokes, etc. etc.
Nice boots there! You probably have no clue how many baby seals lost their lives so your sweaty little toes could stay warm, you evil beast. *laugh*
After doing it for a while, you begin to discern who will be receptive and who isn't receptive at that particular time.
But the key is to watch people who are extroverted and jovial, if you're an introvert like I am. You'll learn how to emulate extroverted behavior just about to perfection. Be quick witted, and remember, never relinquish your control of the interaction - after all, it IS yours. It IS a game. Make it fun.
CrazyWilly
01-18-2008, 09:06 PM
I love the line: "Philosopy huh, you must be in it for the money" It works as well as "Management huh, you must be in it for the money." Either way the HB has to qualify herself to you that either she's going to get a real job or that she isn't after the money, but instead wants to work for a company with good ethics.
Anyway, its a fun line to throw to most any college girl. Assuming she isn't in the same major and you can qualify your major without just jumping through her hoop.
Hengman
01-19-2008, 10:24 AM
I love college chicks!
From my experience:
Girls don't expect to be "hit on" on campus during the day, BUT people in general are ALWAYS very receptive towards a uniquely interesting guy, who is confident funny positive and makes them laugh, hi-5s or KINOs them...etc
So, when you are going to approach, you have to believe that you are doing the right thing. If u are confident about what you are doing, then you CAN break the social rules which say "you can get girls only at parties".
Here's my most recent approach (i rate it about 6.5/10 but anyway):
time: 4:30 pm, venue: campus, city: Los Angeles
We are walking towards each other, so I look at her when I am about 5-6 steps away, get a lil closer, smile, turn my head a little and say hi , she stops and smiles, i take another step so she turns her body towards me.
Me: tattoo opener
Her reply: no no its a bad idea and stuff
we talk a little about tattoos, and then,
I ask her name, shake hands and introduce myself
Me: I don’t usually talk to strangers but, you seem to have a very positive energy about you.. (mini cold read)
Her: Where are you from? (IOI)
Me: xxxxxxx
Me: Where are you from?
Her: Las Vegas
We talk a bit about las vegas and LA..
Her: Whats your major? (IOI)
Me: Computer Science, whats yours?
Her: Fine arts, i'm graduating this semester
Me: Oh, your about to graduate! thats awesome - Hi-Five (KINO)
Me: How old are you by the way? I'm just curious?
Her: I have my birthday next month, i'll be turning 22
Me: Oh you’re 22? That’s too bad. It’s just that I’m 55, so, you are too young for me (C&F)
Me: So what do you do for fun?
we talk a lil while, and i ask her - I know we are both busy now, but you're like the coolest person i've met all day... we should continue our conversation sometime - maybe get a cup of coffee or something..
Her: maybe...(hesitates, maybe cos she had told me about some BF she had in vegas, when we were talking about vegas)
Her: are you on facebook, first lets talk on facebook.
Me: I don't like any of these online chatting sites.. do you have an email?
Get her email, and shake hands in a creative way (Bomb & Explode style), "nice to meet you", and thats it.
PS: She hasn't replied to my mail yet... so i guess i should put in some short DHV stories to further raise my value..
5ystemry
01-22-2008, 11:27 PM
sorry man hi fives = LJBF, dont hi five girls.
azazels_wolf
01-22-2008, 11:45 PM
sorry man hi fives = LJBF, dont hi five girls.
Actually, many PUAs successfully use hi fives as a stepping stone for kino escalation. Don't expect to get a kiss if she's not comfortable with you touching her hand, for example. Hi fives are a good way to initiate hand-to-hand kino, and then escalate.
Hengman
01-23-2008, 04:11 AM
Actually, many PUAs successfully use hi fives as a stepping stone for kino escalation. Don't expect to get a kiss if she's not comfortable with you touching her hand, for example. Hi fives are a good way to initiate hand-to-hand kino, and then escalate.
Exactly.
I hi-five women all of the time. It never put me in the LJBF zone.
slipstream4545
01-26-2008, 09:58 PM
draw a tic tac toe game during some boring lecture but put a question mark next to it and hand it to the girl. she'll hand it back having marked in a circle or x right? laugh at her like what is she doing. then tell her you just wanted her number.
havent tried it. Just thought of it but I will test it come monday.
Session
02-26-2008, 10:44 PM
draw a tic tac toe game during some boring lecture but put a question mark next to it and hand it to the girl. she'll hand it back having marked in a circle or x right? laugh at her like what is she doing. then tell her you just wanted her number.
havent tried it. Just thought of it but I will test it come monday.
i tested this the other day with a twist, i played tic tac toe, then hangman, rinse repeat except the 2nd time the hangman word was "number". and I wrote "wanna give me your?", she giggled and said she had a boyfriend. good stuff though. i didn't say a single word until after.
Inferno
02-27-2008, 12:31 PM
Thats an excellent idea i should try that sometime when i have better looking girls in my class worth talking to. I just have to remember it. I do find the best way other then "Class Room" gaming is to go to the library or walk the halls of a dorm or building on campus and approach girls with a simple Hi and comment on the clothes, books or mood. i prefer mood cause for me i just the best reaction. After a few minutes of banter(YOU NEED TO LEARN THIS) i use this line i stole from Lance Mason. "So i approached to say hi and that you were a cute girl, i just had to do it(or i was compled to come over)." This almost always gets a giggle and her putting her hand to her face(If you have read any body language books you understand that) and reposition her posture. Banter a little more kino exculate and then get the number and move on. Don't forget to say your waiting for class to start or your friends to call or come to you.
JB2008
06-28-2008, 03:21 PM
Why has every tic tac toe hb had a boyfriend ...
guitarz
07-01-2008, 01:28 PM
sweet! .. i like the tic tac to idea , but i think she says she has a boyfriend because your being direct and therefore intruding on her comfort.... shes probably going to use a nice defense mechanism such as "i have a a boyfriend" knowing you wont ask her again...But the better question is , how do you convey value in classrooms , because if you have some sort of value , shell bother to shit test you a bit , which is good..
azazels_wolf
07-01-2008, 11:53 PM
You can convey value in the classroom using both the students and the teacher. Be fun, social, and talkative with the students, and especially talk to other girls to demonstrate preselection. If you are popular with the students, girls will usually see you as high value. When addressing the teacher, you can be impressive by acting mature and giving value by saying intelligent things and demonstrating that you have a strong grasp on the material, or asking questions that help the rest of the class.
So if you can demonstrate that you are both a good student and a popular and charismatic social person, you will be DHVing a LOT.
Manslut
08-12-2008, 12:34 AM
Why has every tic tac toe hb had a boyfriend ...
Because it's a stupid opener.
Dwight44
08-14-2008, 02:45 PM
College is all about social circle
Do NOT go around doing cold approach pickup in college!! DONT DO IT....build a social circle
what about this edit for the tic tac toe?
You do it in the last 5 min of class. Play one game of tic tac toe and draw another grid and hand it to her. When she draws a circle or whatever in it, kinda chuckle and write "your phone" before the grid.
The major difference is doing it at the last 5 min. This means that when you get done with the routine, class is about over, so you have plenty of time to have a real conversation with her.
Laces
08-26-2008, 08:26 AM
Well the art of day game I learned through a good friend named JDog. He has a website Askjdog.com that he is starting up. He states that their is not such thing as a spec. game. But there are different ways you can open and still retain value. I found that the best way to open sets may be through humor with storytelling. If you are in a random place on campus and you see a hb in your class you shouldn't waste any time talking to her. Remember the 3 sec. rule. In the cafe. area I would open a set by setting behind her call a girl and have a 3-5 min conv. this is to express dhv's. After that you can turn over the shoulder and have a conv. about whatever. It seems to work 92% of the time.
Hechtor
08-27-2008, 02:49 PM
I just recently moved up to college. This place is filled with ridiculous amounts of hot women, none of which i approach outside of the classroom. In the classroom is where i find it easiest to pick up women. In the three classes that i have attempted to number-close i have received three numbers. In my first class there is around 100 people with around 100 seats to choose from. I make sure i get to class about 5 min early and sit next to the girl i want to number-close. From there, I simply make nice and talk to them as if i had no intention of hitting on them. (whats your major? what do you do for fun?). I did however use an opener that I read in "The Game" which Style wrote. I simply asked, "I do need a female opinion on something if you don't mind... My buddy is dating a girl that goes to a different school, and she doesn't want him talking to his ex that goes here. What would you do?" An instant classic. She simply said that shes not very good in that area and she would talk it out with his current spouse. Blah blah blah. The teacher began to teach after she said all of her nonsense so i didn't talk to her again until the end of class. Although, i did make a few humorous comments about the teacher which she laughed at. I took this as an IOI because none of them were that funny. After class was over I asked what she was doing now and she said she was going home. I said, "Well we should hang out sometime soon, whats your number?" Number received. Number close.
Dwight44
08-27-2008, 03:03 PM
The key to college game is social circle game...
Cold approach is for lounges and cool rooftop bars
You want to bring high value guys and girls into your circle and go out with them
Z, college is exactly where I have been gaming. It seems to be the only place in my town where there are HBs that are sociable. I have two modes of opening:
Lone Wolf: "Hey, can I ask you a quick question? Can you take a compliment from a complete stranger?" if she says yea/sure/i guess " Dude, me too! You go first!" and then I give her my best Zoolander pose. This open has never failed for me.
Group: I just go in with any indirect opener. I try not to open too many groups up at Tech because I haven't made it to that point in my game yet to where I can command the groups attention while they are walking/trying to get somewhere.
With the lone wolves, I have playfull bannter throughout the whole conversation. I am teasing them, push-pull. But mostly, I am using my frame. Not sure what the MM ideaolgy of frames are, but it works for me. lol.
What I use to #close is I say "The real reason why I started talking to you was because I really like - anything that is not her looks- and I was wanting to get to know you. Let's get coffee after my class."
Or if she is a SHB, I'll say "because you are gorgeous, but beauty is so common. I was hoping there is something behind those eyes. Why don't we go to the cafe and grab a coffee?"
This has worked for me every time. I am very direct on the opening, and then when I bounce her, or on our day two, I make her qualify herself. I'm working on MLTR right now with a few of the girls this semester that I have used this with. Any critic of my style would be greatly appreciated.
Tov
You Create Your Own Reality.
SolidSnake
10-03-2008, 02:24 AM
Dunno if this has been mentioned before, but seriously, outside the school's library is the place to be. People take smoke breaks, come out to get some fresh air, take a phone call and then relax, so on and so forth. And once you meet some people, thy may bring along some friends/classmates, really easy way to get to know people and slide into a routine if you're comfortable gaming around friends.
EDIT: not to mention, most pople stop by there at some point to research, study, or just browse with the school's computers. Plus during crunch time there's even more folks, and you can gripe together about the agony that comes with finals.
xCharmx
10-07-2008, 11:50 PM
got this from somewhere else. I don't take the credit.. but its good..
Anyways here is an opener I love using on campus and have used it for the last 4 years. Sit down next to your target and don't even notice her. After you get situated take out a piece of paper and on it, draw a hangman set as if your about to play hangman with
_ _ , _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?
as the letter spacing
Every time I have done this in 4 years I go a laugh or a chuckle and they immediately put a letter down on the paper.
A few times there was a bit of resistance that was normally a simple "really??" which i always replied with something along the time of "Your one of those serious book worms aren't you?" or "what? don't you enjoy having fun?". Sometimes when they are struggling I like to say "come on!! Really? I play this with my two little twin sisters and they are (age) years old!!"
Works like a charm. It is by far the last thing they ever expect from that guy next to them. I'm actually waiting to meet a girl I picked up with it 2 semesters ago for a relaxing time at the hookah lounge.
Anyways hope you enjoy that one.
ps. the letter spacing is "Hi, Whats Your Name?" naturally you can do something different, but I don't want to come across to hard with the first hang man note.
The best part is after she wings the first game, you can repeat the game to carry on the conversation.
You have a real winner when instead of answering verbally she draws up a hangman game and now it's your turn to guess. I have carried on dozens of conversations all the way to a number close without once saying a single word to the girl.
Qarloz
10-22-2008, 10:19 AM
anyone willing to share day game..IM
Laces
10-23-2008, 04:18 PM
Did the hang man opener works like a charm :) thax.
Laces
xCharmx
10-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Did the hang man opener works like a charm :) thax.
Laces
np..
details!!
Laces
10-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Sat next to her in a hall in one of the college campus buildings and she was on an mp3 player. I always found it hard to get girl off of cells or mp3s but the hang man did just that. She started playing along as if she was going to play all along lol. It worked great # closed!
Laces
DateDemon
10-24-2008, 11:43 PM
Ok College game in a nutshell:
Show up to class and go early 15 minutes early to every class if possible. Talk to girls outside or in the hallway before class. You know they are in class too so you know exactly how much time you have to talk before the time constraint is up.
In class: 1. Write on your notepad a message and show it to the girl next to you, or tic tac toe or whatever.
2. peacock your school gear. Go out and buy some girly Dolphin /unicorn notebooks and use those for taking notes. When a hot girl is next to you pull out your notebook with exaggerated movement and as she giggles open her/ or sometimes they will open you. Buy a big pencil, a neon flash drive, whatever.
3. Situational, comment on in class situations, talk about the guy that never stops asking the teacher questions, if she has a billion note cards make fun of her for being a nerd. Ask her what she thinks of the teacher/ tell her which celebrity the teacher reminds you of and why.
Libraries and Student unions are actually not as good of a place as you would think. Unless you are good with day gaming girls i would not recommend a library considering everyone will be so quiet and not only do you have to cold open but you have to do it while everyone else is studying or in silence. it is pretty intimidating for someone new.
Outside sidewalks and areas are usually best. Coffee shops are also very good/ cafeterias.
If the girl is sitting in the cafeteria alone walk up and ask is someone sitting here? and then sit down before even starting a conversation. (goes for bars and stuff too)
Sidewalks: you usually want a sidewalk that is busy but not really busy. If the sidewalk is really busy not only will you have to compete with your anxiety of opening her in front of a lot of other people but you also have to keep up with the flow of traffic while doing it.
If its a slower sidewalk you want to either be
1. in front of the girl or set and start talking to them as they catch up with you and are beside you.
2. If you are walking towards the girls in opposite directions thats a very good open scenario too. Just don't get right in front of them and physically block them.
3. you are behind the girl, either walk quickly enough to get ahead of her and slow down and then talk to her as shes beside you or
4. worst case scenario walk up quickly and open her from behind or side. If you open her from behind I recommend just opening with Asking directions or something very very basic so you won't creep her out any more than possible. Once she realizes you aren't going to rob her or something then you can start an actual talk =P
Outside benches and stuff are great. Especially around lunch time walk around and see if any girl is sitting alone on a bench eating lunch or just hanging out. Ask her if anyone is sitting on the other end of the bench and then just sit down and start the conversation once sitting.
Smoke breaks and people hanging out, outside buildings are very good too. Crosswalks with street lights that are on campus are great too. Talk to the girls at the corner waiting for the walk signal.
Also girls will sometimes read books around campus. Some campuses have transit buses that run around campus that you can open girls on the bus or waiting on the bus easily as well.
If she has an ipod, and you want to open her or headphones in period. Just open her as normal once, and then as she notices you and takes out her head phones repeat the opener once more.
So many girls on campus will walk around with cell phones. Girls are glued to cell phones. It is most likely just a friend of hers between classes too. YOU CAN INTERRUPT. Just open her as if she wasn't on the phone. You would be surprised how often they will hang up quickly or ignore their friend on the phone.
2. If a girl is talking on a phone near you and hangs up, open her asking who she was talking to? Then whoever she says say I knew it!! I think people change their tone of voice depending on who they are talking to on the phone like mom, a boy, a girl, and so on. Tell her you knew she was talking to whoever based on her tone of voice. and then start a convo.
3. If she is texting an opener i do alot is walk over with your cell phone out and ask her "Hey can I be cool like you and text here too?!" (say this in an overly exaggerated semi excited way. And as you are saying it pretend like you are hitting the buttons on your phone texting someone goofily. Then ask her quickly "Who are you texting??!" if she looks hesitant to respond at all say "Boyfriend? a girl friend? mom??!?!" Then make a joke about her response. Boyfriend : oh honey i love you so much smooches XOXOXO!! girl friend: Mary quit being a whore! LOL! XOXO! doesnt matter what you say just make a joke about their response and pretend that you are texting the joke. She should be totally happy and totally interested in you at this point.
So what should I open with?? Depends on the situation, sometimes situational openers can be very effective. Opinion openers are a bit harder to pull off especially if the sets are busy studying or something they will wonder why you are bugging them with opinions while they are busy or going somewhere. Asking directions is good but very hard to transition into an actual conversation but very good for situations that would normally be creepy a.k.a from behind open, while its dark outside, while shes jogging, and so on. Asking if she is in a class with you is the same as asking directions. I often like asking where the girl is from. Hey are you from... (random place)? you look so much like this girl i went to elementary school with or an old friend or whatever. Sometimes girls will think you are BSing but you can pretty much always transition this into a talk anyway. You can also open with something facebook related. I love opening talking about facebook. You can think of multiple openers involving this but it is easily transitionable to a facebook friend close or even phone number. Every girl in college is basically on facebook now and they are addicted to it.
Ask them random questions to open: What book are you reading? Are you studying for physics?! Wait were you at that party on Friday?!? Do you live in XYZ dorm?! Are you in my XYZ class?! Just ask anything. You need to ask it in a way that is not demanding but in a tone that you EXPECT an answer. You need to ask it like Why wouldn't she respond?! Kino can be done but keep it light during the day. Also you want to ask them if they are heading to class or between classes or what their time restraint is so you know how much time you have to close them.
If you are in a cafeteria or restaurant on campus and you want to open some girls sitting next to you and your friends. Just start having a conversation loudly with your friends about some fun/ outrageous topic. If you can get them laughing from overhearing you, thats an easy open. If not you want them to know that you are just loud people and social. Then ask them a question from your table. Do not walk over to them just ask them from where you are sitting. The Chicken tastes kind of funny today! Hey did you guys get the chicken?!?! Does it taste alright?! thats a bad example but you get the idea just ask them something!
That's all I can think of off the top of my head but I am sure I have a lot of other tips. Anyone can get free coaching from me temporarily on my AIM account s/n: DateDemonInfo . or you can PM or email me if you have any specific questions at info[at]datedemon.com hope this helps you guys and good luck.
nirvana
10-31-2008, 02:05 AM
College is all about social circle
Do NOT go around doing cold approach pickup in college!! DONT DO IT....build a social circle
Who says you can't dwight? you keep spamming that throughout this whole thread.
Russianstar
10-31-2008, 08:43 AM
MM is all about indirect game, so you can build a social circle by approaching. Also, if u have a roomate.. make him ur wing.. if u have a few suit mates. make them ur wing
DateDemon
11-09-2008, 03:53 AM
Who says you can't dwight? you keep spamming that throughout this whole thread.
Yea to say you can't cold approach in college is just dumb. On the other hand to say you should approach and not use social circles in college is dumb as well. You really need to utilize both to get the best gains. If you do not really have a social circle though why not approach to build one? Or if you have a social circle why not approach to add people to it. If you and your guy friends constantly approach new girls every week you will have a fresh influx of girls constantly.
I was recently on a college campus and got about 8 phone numbers in 2 hours, met up with one of the girls that same night, and had a day 2 set up with another.
To say you can't approach or shouldn't approach in college, when i can go to a random campus and get results like that from strictly cold approaches is ridiculous.
Feynman
11-14-2008, 10:48 PM
Depends on your school. Even in a big university, cold approaching is difficult. In my college town (20,000 students) if you get blown out by a couple of girls, then they have friends and it's amazing how fast things can get around. There are only about 6 bars in town and only three that are popular and hold a decent number of people.
To be honest it's always about building and using as social circle to your advantage if you can. If not, then okay, do a cold approach, but I'd avoid doing really risky ones that can make you seem weird. For college, just like high school, being "natural", alpha is the best way to go.
rgreco
12-26-2008, 09:23 AM
Because it's a stupid opener.
Tic tac toe is off the chain. When she says, "I have a boyfriend..." I reply "OMG me too! we can be bff shopping buddies..." and role play with her about shopping. Huge comfort / dhv (confidence) boost. I'm not gay and she knows this and its actually how I met and picked up an HB8.7 with a legit boyfriend in class.
...She ended up coming over the next day (she was hanging out with her boyfriend that night) and cooked me some penne a la vodka!
Thracius
04-05-2009, 01:07 AM
The thing to remember is that they're exceptionally wary of clingy/creepy guys, so be like super fun, smiling so walk up like "heeeeey, my hobby is talking to random strangers, yeah... makes life fun, so... do you wanna chat for half a second or are you like... totally weird ?" but you gotta calibrate it with a smile or you're gonna come off arrogant; be the fun/randomly chatty guy
TheLostProphet
06-03-2009, 04:03 PM
I think telling a girl from the start, hey I think you're cute, is a no no. For one, it shows you're interested with her and you don't want that do you? You want her to have no idea what you think about her so she'll be more curious. Besides, if you tell her off the bat what your intentions are, what are the chances that she's sufficiently attracted to you by then? Exactly.
Second, you don't want to be macking some girls one day only to have some girl you just number closed yesterday see you doing it. She'll know right there and then that you were just playing her and you do not want that word to get around.
Being all light and fun and airy is the way to go. So long as you don't treat her like a one night only person that you'll never see again, you can't really go wrong.
From personal experience, girls walking very fast have a place to go. Girls pacing around a spot and looking around or waiting to meet someone. In either case it's very risky. If she's in a rush she's probably not interested, or she could be meeting her boyfriend. This happened to a friend of mine, he tried opening a girl outside the library only to have her boyfriend join after 1 minute. Turns out the guy was a friendly acquaintance of his!
I think if you see a girl leisurely strolling wherever then go for it. Rememeber to follow general conversation tips like looking her in the eyes and locking that eye contact. I have a bad habit of looking everywhere but the eyes when I'm nervous so if you just force yourself it makes you look a lot more confident and alpha.
I really like some of the suggestions on here, "Can I text over here like you?" is joke, gotta try that. I'm surprised you can just go over to a girl on a cell and start talking though, even if their chitchat is banal.
ThePlayBook
06-10-2009, 10:56 AM
The thing to remember is that they're exceptionally wary of clingy/creepy guys, so be like super fun,
Yea they can sense them from a mile away...Ive heard girls talk about "inexperienced" guys in college, the other day i was in a dorm and was up eavesdropping on a convo a group was having. They mentioned about some guy how he was a senior in college but then yet had 0 skills talking to girls . They do consider creds to, so if your a bum and jam on warcraft all day you better switch it up quick or learn to be a good liar :D
Learn to realize what your scoping at, can you tell if they look like a suitable target...willing to comply? A MAJORITY of chicks post up in lounges, labs etc etc and they are just being out there and available...and you can always tell when you go up to talk at them and they give you the eyes like "Yes he approached me:D !!" look. Most of the time you can walk into said room, scope the place out and see who's looking around/having ADD from those that are actually studying for real. For what to say don't do the gay shit or cover up openers. Straight talk to them, hey did you get the HW done for today, how'd you do this etc etc then bridge off into other conversation. Girls are not dumb, especially if they are in college.....you can lie to yourself and think oh they are not aware of what I'm trying to do. Guess again...They can put 2 and 2 together most of the time remember that!
AND if one has a brain, they know your intentions..even if you do not walk up to her and say Hey baby i want you now!!! she can assume if your approaching her and "being slick/flirting" of what your intentions are. As long as she does not blow you off and plays along/shows interest your golden. Plus at the same time if your mingling away and doing a good job at it she'll pickup your different from the rest of the chumps out there who cannot handle conversation with them.(especially if shes got a bad history of being around AFCs and other creeps).
I remember when i was starting to build my foundation on campus I would be quick and light with targets...in case of onlookers, that way not to be deemed a player. If I'd be walking with one girl, I'd chat then cut out and take the long way just to not be seen as having obvious status with said girl. IF you can establish just casual female contacts to say hi/bye/how are you doing today etc, that way from day to day campus life you can demonstrate your have much acceptance already from other female colleagues.
AND ITS SIMPLE ^^^^. Alot of times I made small chat with girls in my class, not expecting anything from it, next time I'd see the girl id be getting progression. Just be chillin then they would open up on me and flirt...even going out of their way just to chat...thats what happens in college..all the old social circles from high school CEASE to exist and most are on their own building them up again...now im not saying campus girls are vulnerable but the idea of it being a friendly environment favors stranger-stranger conversation as it will not be seen as "Creepy"... unless of course you look like the guy in the wanted picture hanging in the post office hah.
IT DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE EITHER what college you are at...pretty much the same anywhere, poor, regular or snooty campus. Just remember not to underestimate...or you'll come out with a black eye hahah.
Know what your working with first, totally takes any difficulties out of the picture allowing you to work with great ease. :cool:
Henja
10-09-2010, 12:06 AM
So I'm new the the forum, but I am decently versed on the theory. For the past summer break I have been working on my night game, but I have just started up for my next year of Uni and have been adjusting to that.
I was walking around the other week and I ran into a brick wall of obvious. Universities are packed to the fucking gills with women!
I've been trying to figure the best way to run day game but its been tricky. Day game is still confusing to me in all the subtle differences. Also for those who haven't been to university in awhile there are some unique constraints that I shall remind you of.
1. Lectures- people are paying attention to the prof not you, and you should be too. Does that mean this is completely out of the question?
2. Libraries- I've been trying to work around talking to women in a place where you get some seriously nasty reactions for making noise. Also sometimes they are studying too.
Oh and just if it matters, my campus is huge, so don't think that I have any better of a chance seeing the same girl again as I would some random person on the street. (I barely run into friends from different programs more than once a year to give you some perspective).
So lay it on me, no matter how obvious. Thanks!
azazels_wolf
10-10-2010, 03:38 AM
Merging your thread into another college game thread. Let's continue the discussion over here.
Will_R
10-10-2010, 12:43 PM
Hey. Looks like an old thread but here's my 2 cents. FYI I did undergrad a few years back, and now I'm in my first semester back for grad school. Didn't know about game then. Do now.
First of all, my university has 50,000 but that turns out to be a small 50,000 - i.e., I see people I know everywhere. Numerous times seeing people and running into people on a supposedly huge campus have convinced me that day game always has an aspect of social game, because even if she isn't in my social circle, someone within 50 yards of both of us is. So I can't be rude. Not that I ever should...but especially not here. If your university is different, great, but that's my experience.
So, gaming:
Night gaming is the same, but with a massive element of social game.
Day game: I am still working on a good way to get a solid close. A lot of this has been said but here's a couple new thoughts:
Just a bold approach in and of itself is a demonstration of high value. Stopping a woman on the sidewalk. But you have to have solid game after that to back it up. I've had numbers with this, but not reliably. And it's high risk.
I get longer conversations with women who are sitting down. However, the conversation isn't the goal. 20 minutes of conversation shows good convo skills, but she doesn't want to date you just because of that. You have to focus on attraction, stimulating her emotions so that she wants to be around you some more.
That's where I am with it now. Good luck.
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