Basic Hired Gun Game

[prodigy409]

Hey guys,

So I know there's alot of different posts on here on hired gun game, but not alot of theory of what to do, why it's different, etc.

What are your ideas on gaming the most common type of hired guns? (i.e. waitresses, cashiers, girls that work in the mall. Not strippers really, that's a completely different type of hired gun)

I'd prefer tips from guys who consistently get closes from hired guns, not just things you think work, or things you have gotten smiles from girls before in the past.

I'll start with a few of my ideas.
This one is pretty basic and popular, but you have to get her out of work mode. Don't just become another customer, don't get her to start going on her script, don't be like the thousand other guys who she talks to throughout the day. I feel the best way to do this is to tease and be playful right off the bat. Normally during the day you have to start out a little slower, breaking the ice to get her socially comfortable. But hired guns are seeking comfort with you already, breaking rapport by teasing right away can work well to start the interaction off.

Anyways, what are some of your tips?

[dark knight]

the best way is to show your intent straight away. when she comes grab her by the hand and lead her to a quiet place, if she resists do the mystery kiss close on her. say 'would you like to kiss me?" if she says no kiss her anyway she needs to know you mean business.

if she gets upset and calls the manager on you, than kiss him too, let everyone know in the shop that the boss is in town and everyone is gonna get it.

if by unfortunate circumstance you get banned from the shop, don't worry just wait for her by taking a seat on the shop opposite.

Don't shower, Don't change cloths be there every day waiting, she will soon smell your alpha characteristics.

On day 5 when she finishes work, come behind her lift her up and run off with her to the sunset, the smell will but her in a trance she wont resist.

It's day 4 for me in taco bell.....

ps you know the game well from what you wrote try it for yourself and if you fail ask advice it's better that way. don't take mine :D

[JohnnyWolf]

My tips are to forget about thinking about more "theory on why it's different" and just focus on doing it. Theory is mental masturbation, get out in field and practice.

I'm sure you read this in the other hired gun post, use it, it works.

"I've pulled a few hired guns, girls working at clothing stores and even a chick working at Hot Dog on a Stick this way.

At the end of our conversation before leaving I simply said:

"Hey I think you are really cute, what time do you get off of work"

She responded, and I said "Cool, I'll pick you up and we can hang out"


Forget the phone number close, get the date bro. If for some reason she can't hang out that day, then set up a day2 for her next day off, then get the phone number to follow up. Remember, the phone close isn't a real close, seeing her again and hooking up with her is the close you're after."

[Idioteque...]

I think this is when Juggler's theory can be most effective with the simple "how are you" but I'm trying to figure this one out since I might be working on hired gun game a lot, I just find the thrill to be awesome and I've gotten past the oh she, "IOD'd" me phase so it should ease out things.

But I was hoping to find the same replies you were seeking for and there is nothing but the obvious (not trying to knock anyone down here) but we all know we need to attract build comfort and rapport but the question is how? i'll figure it out soon enough, i work on retail myself and the store is split into different dpts and I usually have to go the cashiers to get a drink and there's some new guns coming in so I'll figure out some techinques. ;) But if anyone's got an answer please feel free to give us words of wisdom.

[arkangel]

At the end of our conversation before leaving I simply said:

"Hey I think you are really cute, what time do you get off of work"

She responded, and I said "Cool, I'll pick you up and we can hang out"


Ok, so we got Johnyywolf's opinion here with a small technique that might help us sometime to close an HG with whom we might have gotten some good IOI's but what about the heavy weight HG's with a large bitch shield? If you apply this close tech everytime you might just be gambling your way into closes and depending on things such as your looks, social proof or other factors other than your game. Give credits on the Focus on the InstaDate and not on the #close though. Anyway, what most guys coming here need is somebody with a proven method or some fundamentals, so they can start off.

I see an interesting idea from prodigy409 who states we should get her
out of "work mode". You definitely got to get her out of work mode, but sometimes you'll have to get through her work mode, to be able to sarge her.So basically for newbies, you can start off as a customer, listen to her etc. so you can get over your approach anxiety and then slowly start running game with the woman. As you get bolder, you'll eventually be able to cut through her "next customer" routine and go directly into YOUR routine which is the gaming part.
Well, that's it for now, I have a FR on HG's I'm preparing so you can comment on. :D

[prodigy409]

Ok. Been a long time since anyone's posted on this. But I got a little bit to add.

I think some common sense needs to be in place. If you're a regular at a place, don't go direct :) There's a waitress I met at a restaurant I go to regularly, and to be honest, I'm not really that interested in her. She's a really cool girl, but just not my type. But because she has a cool personality I get along well with her, and can tease her and do all that fun stuff that I would do to a girl I was pursuing. Well one day when we found a really strong commonality (probably after the 5th time I saw her in there in about 2 months) she wrote her number on a piece of paper and gave it to me. Didn't ask.

Another worked in the gym I attended, in which I saw her every week multiple times. Just went really indirect. I mean I didn't really need an "opener." I think I asked her something about the gym one day, which broke the ice. After that I would say hi when I saw her, and then when the moment was right (she started cleaning next to where I was working out), I just did some natural, friendly conversation. Of course this includes teasing, cocky/funny and things of that nature. I seeded a date to go to a party and got her number (after probably 5 times of talking to her as well).

So basically with someone you see consistently, don't force a bunch of routines on her right when you see her. Just be friendly and let things happen naturally. Don't wait too long to where you get friend zoned (unless you really just want to be friends), but don't rush it either.

Now, when you're not a regular. Well dammit, in this situation I've just been trying what I would always do in day game when there's not much time... go direct. I got a waitress' number from this, at a restaurant I don't go to often. But it definitely doesn't pan out as often as going direct when they're not working. I've been trying more to address the situation and acknowledging the fact that it is weird and inappropriate but I'm doing it anyways :D

For example: I know this is really inappropriate because you're at work and everything, but I passing by/eating here/whatever I noticed you and think you're incredibly cute. I had to come introduce myself.

That's just a slight variation of my regular direct approach. It hasn't had the highest success rate, but it's improving :)

[tamashi]

i had used the flash game, creating value with a 2 set before , having them laughing , sending iois , i'm locking , and then open the hired gun , i only had played bartenders , then my opener is buy a drink , is under the radar , then a neg and a hook for a3

[Hustle]

I started working this waitress (one of the hottest HB10s I have seen in a long time) at this swanky, casual, upscale bar. I couldn't tell if it was working, but I noticed her constantly checking me out. My wing commented on how she had been back to check on our table 6 times in under an hour. Finally, as we were getting ready to bounce, I lightly negged and then kinoed and IOId.

The one thing I noticed is she was constantly on the move and could stop for only brief moments.

The idea came to me to try and run it like phone game: Create a DHV spike, get her laughing, etc and then walk away FIRST. This will put her in a frame of always wanting more from me and her chasing me.

I will give it a try and report back.