Field reports section

[Deft9]

How about adding a section specifically for field reports or newbie mission journals?

I'd like to start posting my experiences here, but I don't want to post in the main discussion area.

Thanks!!

[Deft9]

FR

This is as good a place to post as any I guess.

Just got back from the bar. It wasn't really a successful night, or I wouldn't be posting. There were a ton of HB's there. I talked to one UG for warm-up early in the night and she kept coming back to me throughout the night, which was really throwing me off. My main problem is still opening, since I have severe approach anxiety, but tonight I was able to approach maybe 5 times.

One of the approaches went pretty well, with my wing coming in about 3 minutes in. He really hit it off with one of the girls and my other friend came in and basically boxed me out from the other girl. He actually stood in front of me and started kino on her. I wasn't really making much headway with her anyway, but it was still kind of annoying. After 2 hours the 4 of them were still talking, so I guess it's good that I opened the set.

A group of girls with a 9 in it asked me to take their picture, and I declined. I'm sure I seemed like a dick, but I didn't want to seem like a nice guy tool either.

With my friends occupied, I started to feel like a 5th wheel. I went around the bar a few times without being able to open another set. Eventually I said goodbye and left alone about 30 minutes before closing time. I would chalk the night up as a failure except I learned a few lessons:

1. Be careful who I open. Showing the slightest interest in an UG may make her attach.
2. Kino escalate. My friend (who doesn't know anything about MM), would not have been able to get in on my girl if I had escalated earlier. I wasn't that into her, which may have been part of the problem.
3. My opener lacked both negs and an FTC, need to work on that.
4. A2 is disgraceful. I need some DHV stories and better negging.
5. Pick a target. I was trying to select a target based on who showed me more interest. I think my game would be tighter by picking one in advance.

That's pretty much it. Basically I got showed up by some guys who know way less about MM than I do, but having knowledge and applying it are two different things. All in all it was a mostly fun night with way more female interaction than I am used to.

Cheers!!

[Sentinelrv]

I definitely support a section for field reports. I was actually surprised there wasn't when I registered. It can help both the person writing the field report and people who want to read a bunch of examples of how things work in the field before they go out themselves.

[Deft9]

Yeah, even if I don't get any responses it helps me to report on the night and reflect on it.

I talked to one of my friends today to ask him how it went after I left. The foursome went to sit at a table and he ended up across from the girl he liked, rather than next to her. This hurt his kino escalation and the night went nowhere after that.

[Deft9]

FR (lame one)

Went to 3 different bars tonight. Broke the 3 second rule approximately 400 times. Approached zero sets all night. I'm going to bed.

[Deft9]

FR

This isn't a great field report so don't read it if you don't want to.

I almost didn't go out tonight. I was feeling a ton of anxiety after last night. I was all dressed to go out, but I couldn't leave the house. At around 10:30 I went for a 2 mile run. I felt completely different when I got home..totally relaxed. I showered, changed, and went to the bar.

I opened 2 sets and got ignored once. In one of the sets a girl bought me a shot and another asked my name. I tried to keep the conversation going, but for some reason the group got up and left, even though I think those 2 girls wanted to keep talking to me.

I've read everything there is to read about beating AA. Now I just have to do it. I know some guys are able to open consistently after 1 night of bootcamp, but for me it has been a major challenge. It seems like there are zillions of beautiful girls out there. I really need to stop acting like such a pussy.

[Deft9]

FR: friday

Ok so I'm going out a lot. Having something to do at the bar, other than sit there and look lame, has made going out way more fun for me.

I think I opened 3 sets tonight. 2 hooked and 1 blew me out quickly. I need to work on stacking forward into more interesting material quickly, and getting multiple threads going. Yes, 3 sets isn't that good. But understand that I didn't open 3 sets in the entire MONTH of July.

My friend came with another guy and 2 girls, and I ended up talking to the 2 girls for most of the night. I was generally able to hold their attention and shift the conversation away from bad topics "i.e. ex boyfriend." It was excellent practice. It turned out the guy and the girl were not a couple, so I tried gaming her for awhile. I'd say my attract phase was pretty shitty. Negging, DHV's, and kino were there, but barely. I did my first rolloff and got immediately pulled back. Where are you supposed to go on a rolloff? I just tried to convey "OMG I can't even talk to you." with my body language. It's not like I was actually going to leave the group. Is that how it's supposed to be done?

Edit: someone did mention "The Pick-up Artist" tonight. One of the girls was like, "I would never be into that guy, he looks like such a freak!" I love how they dismiss it based on his looks alone. They have no idea how much psychology and technique makes up MM. I just agree, "Yeah totally." Then I do a routine and they love it. LOL!

[strife]

u guys really should put a FR section... perhaps even divide it to day game & night game subsections...

[Deft9]

FR: Friday

Ah fun night tonight. I was being really AFC, standing with 7 of my guy friends and feeling totally lame. I felt like I couldn't talk to anyone in the place. I remembered this thing from MM, "give your wing 100 bucks and for every set you open, you get 20 back."

I went to the ATM, got $100 out and gave it to him. I told him he could keep any money I didn't earn back. Man did that light a fire under my ass. I opened within 10 minutes, got blown out, and went and opened again. Plus I was in a great mood and had a huge smile on my face while I was with the girls, because I was thinking how glad I was to have earned that $20. I highly recommend this motivational technique if you are dealing with AA. I'll say this: practicing MM feels a lot more natural than just standing around trying to look cool.

2 of my 5 sets ended up merged with my group. The only set I was badly blown out of was the first one. I locked in several times and isolated one girl. Although she was kind of sexy, I wasn't feeling very strong attraction for her. The electricity just wasn't there. She ended up giving me her myspace page. An AMOG started talking to two of the girls, and I didn't handle that well at all. I just walked away. I need to read up on AMOG technique a little bit, because it seems like I see a few of them every time I go out now. I think before I just didn't notice them, because I wasn't with any women.

I met 11 women tonight. For me, that's pretty damn good.

[Deft9]

FR: house party

I went to a small house party tonight. There were only 3 girls there and maybe 8 guys. Only one of the girls was available. I thought she was really attractive but my friend was talking to her first. I pulled him aside at one point and asked him if he was into her. He said "sorta" so I told him I would stay out of the way.

He had plenty of isolation time with her, but he was never able to build attraction or make any type of move. It was hard to watch him getting nowhere with a girl I was totally into. Especially since he wasn't even that interested in her. I think if our roles had been reversed, if I wasn't getting anywhere with her for 30 minutes, I would have backed off and let him try.

All in all, it was kind of a frustrating night, but I still enjoyed the company of my friends.

[Deft9]

FR: Wednesday

I think I opened 7 sets tonight, including one 5 set and one 3 set of HB8.5s. A few of the sets I kept going for a decent amount of time, maybe 10-15 minutes. I was frustrated until I started typing this, because I didn't get anywhere with any girls, but now that I think about it, a month ago a 5 set would have been completely untouchable for me. I'm really just trying to go through the newbie mission, open as many sets as I can, and display a fun, playful vibe. Whereas I used to have EXTREME, PARALYZING AA, tonight I was busy working sets. It's a half empty/half full kind of thing.

I'm getting lots of IOIs and not escalating properly.
I still have a problem with target selection. I want to vibe with any girl that gives me IOIs. I have to be up in 4 hours, so I guess I'll go to sleep.

Cheers!

[Deft9]

FR: Friday

Terrible AA tonight. I only opened 2 sets. Before, when I didn't approach, my body gave me a sensation of guilt. Now that I know what I'm supposed to be doing, I get the sensation from my body and my mind.

I was getting approach invitations from the second set, so I opened as a courtesy. The girls were immediately into me. But I fucked it all up.

I should have isolated my target and gone into A3. Instead I just tried to keep the conversation going. Eventually, with no escalation and the conversation turning mundane, the girls left to go sit in a booth. When I went over to say goodbye, I felt like one who was most into me was looking at me very suggestively. I mean it was a really powerful look, I definitely felt something. That's the best I can describe it. I should have at least tried to get her number (not asking for it of course), but I just said nice to meet you and left. If I could kick my own ass, I would.

My wing said that I blew a guaranteed lay. I'm still new to this, but I could FEEL her attraction and I didn't play my cards right. I could be hooking up RIGHT NOW, and instead I'm posting a FR about my lameness. Ok, moving on....

[robbie_j]

dude, that used to happen to me ten times a night. isolation is important and can be hard and awkward without a good wing. and lets be honest. do you really wanna ask a girl for her number with all her friends watching? i don't. its a mental block and to be honest, i'm not even sure how i got past it. i guess i just started thinking of it as a natural progression for how a conversation goes between two people who are attracted to each other. is it just that youre afraid to do it or that you dont see an opening when there is one?

[Deft9]

It would have been easy to do. I would have told her I wanted to show her something and taken her to a booth which was right near us, where I would have a trick or a routine with her. I've never done it before, but that definitely would have worked.

Also, my plan for getting the number would have been to say that we were going bowling later that week and that she could come. I'm pretty sure that if I had said anything that would have allowed her to give me her number, she would have. MM says never ask for the number. Structure the conversation so she gives it to you. Of course this would have been easier if I had isolated.

I know these things. I just didn't do them. I'd say it was poor execution and I choked.

[Deft9]

FR: Saturday and Sunday

Not much to report. I was with a group of friends including two girls and my wing. We were walking to another bar and one of the girls heard me talking to my wing about a girl I thought was hot in the last bar. Turns out she used to live with one of the two we were with. Now they want to play matchmaker. I think this could lead to some sort of pre-selection but mostly it just fucked my game up. Even though I drove separate with my wing, when the rest of the group wanted to go to another bar so we left with them. I should have stayed and gamed the target. I really need to be more aggressive. I'm giving up way too easily.

Sunday I opened 2 sets in an hour. The first went nowhere. The second was a mixed set, 2 girls and 1 guy. I think this was my first mixed set. I was unable to get around the obstacle. The girls were from another country, and barely spoke English, so it was hard to communicate. I reached the way point and asked how they knew each other. One was married. The other was much better looking, but the guy had come with them and I couldn't get around him. He was clearly trying to get with the target. I need to read up on some tactics for this.

[Deft9]

Someone added a section for field reports. Thanks!! :D

[Sentinelrv]

They added a lot of sections. This forum is much better now.

[neils17]

FR

This is as good a place to post as any I guess.

Just got back from the bar. It wasn't really a successful night, or I wouldn't be posting. There were a ton of HB's there. I talked to one UG for warm-up early in the night and she kept coming back to me throughout the night, which was really throwing me off. My main problem is still opening, since I have severe approach anxiety, but tonight I was able to approach maybe 5 times.

One of the approaches went pretty well, with my wing coming in about 3 minutes in. He really hit it off with one of the girls and my other friend came in and basically boxed me out from the other girl. He actually stood in front of me and started kino on her. I wasn't really making much headway with her anyway, but it was still kind of annoying. After 2 hours the 4 of them were still talking, so I guess it's good that I opened the set.

A group of girls with a 9 in it asked me to take their picture, and I declined. I'm sure I seemed like a dick, but I didn't want to seem like a nice guy tool either.

With my friends occupied, I started to feel like a 5th wheel. I went around the bar a few times without being able to open another set. Eventually I said goodbye and left alone about 30 minutes before closing time. I would chalk the night up as a failure except I learned a few lessons:

1. Be careful who I open. Showing the slightest interest in an UG may make her attach.
2. Kino escalate. My friend (who doesn't know anything about MM), would not have been able to get in on my girl if I had escalated earlier. I wasn't that into her, which may have been part of the problem.
3. My opener lacked both negs and an FTC, need to work on that.
4. A2 is disgraceful. I need some DHV stories and better negging.
5. Pick a target. I was trying to select a target based on who showed me more interest. I think my game would be tighter by picking one in advance.

That's pretty much it. Basically I got showed up by some guys who know way less about MM than I do, but having knowledge and applying it are two different things. All in all it was a mostly fun night with way more female interaction than I am used to.

Cheers!!
man i totally deal with the same issue..completely different setting 4 me but like u i am lacking in those areas...FTC, negging and i had no dhv stories...