New York Bootcamp July 2010 Review

[jackhsu1]

First off, I have to say that I really enjoyed the bootcamp and sunday breakout sections.
Thanks for all three Master Coachs: Discovery, Lovedrop and Matador. You guys are really great. Also three coachs are all really nice as well. It's really helpful all the feedback I get in the field. Also all coachs demo in the field which shows they all are the really deals. I am really happy to flinally see how the game flow.

But, there are a few things that I didn't enjoy that much of the bootcamp.

1) Mystery wasn't there, which I was been told that mystery will be there for the bootcamp beforehand. So I am a bit disappointed and felt been cheated.

2) I felt that the seminar didn't organized well. I mean the stuffs that teached in the semiar are a bit all over the place. (All the stuffs are still useful, but I just felt that if they present in more organized way people maybe able to learn better and faster) Also there is no outline or handout for seminar. You know, it will be nice to know what I will be learning of day and time of the breaks.

3) First night in-field is a bit in the negative side, which mainly due the club. All coachs are great but the music in the club just way to loud. Second night in-field is great, I really enjoyed it. There is nothing to complain about for second night.

[tinderbox]

I actually though the seminars were very organized. Sure, it was a bit tedious to only write notes, but the content was great. About once an hour, a lightbulb would go above my head "Oh, yeah that's it!"

The seminars and breakouts were really good. Even if you have read books and other materials, the way they explain things to you in person cannot be duplicated in a book.

The in-fields were different. Night #1 was definitely hard, the choice of the venue was particularly hard for beginners, as the space was wide-open, walking areas were in such a shape as to make it too easy to be exposed to the whole place and have value drop if you screw up. I don't think it was VA's fault, as they aren't from NY, but that venue was like starting on the Difficult setting of a video game. They should've tested out the venue beforehand to check it out. Still, it was a great display to see Discovery and Matador show the class how even in a bad venue, you can *still* get it done!

Night #2, in contrast, was quite good. The venue had many little nooks and separate conversation areas, which made it easier for beginners to mask any screwups. Everyone was simply having more fun. One coach in particular was amazing. Not just in his skill, but in his ability to stick with and coach his students, sticking to the main task at hand. However, another coach did the bare minimum.

My only real criticism was that they expected a lot of pre-knowledge going in to the bootcamp. About 1/4 of the class was confused.

To get the best out of the course, I'd recommend a student read some material beforehand (in books such as Revelation), and you really should memorize a full set of things to say, not just openers. (Openers, time constraints, gambits, stories, games, etc).

[cashius]

I think a lot of guys do not believe that all the stuff that MPUAs talk about are possible. I did believe that what they talk about was possible before the boot camp, but it was great seeing it too. Discovery has incredible amount of Game. Matador of course has a great amount of Game.

First Night
I have to say that the first night at the club was not that great for me because of the club being so loud. It was cool to see someone kiss close a girl that did not speak any English.

2nd Night
I had a really great time the second night. My coach Hobbs was incredible. The club was great with a dancing are and two outside areas were the music was lower.

Little disappointed that Mystery was not there because I was under the impression that he was supposed to be there. I did feel like it was a little to much information. The information was really good but hard to put it into practice because it was so much. Wish I would had a routine stack and DHV's stories and transitions down before bootcamp.

[Ninja1]

Arriving to the bootcamp I wanted to see Mystery, hear his infamous pattern of speech, but unfortunately Discovery informed us Mystery wasn't at here. I had never head of Discovery before getting to the bootcamp, but I doubt I'm ever going to forget the lessons that he taught me. While Matador and Lovedrop were just the rock stars I had imagined them to be.

On Day 1 I wasn't really enthusiastic about Discovery. I thought, I would have heard about him if he was a senior instructor. I sat down analyzing the information he offered, but it wasn't long before I realized there is definitely something to this guy. It wasn't until the next day that I understood how amazing he was.

Discovery had repeatedly stated that words are only about 7% of our communication, that means 93% of our communication is in delivery. As I sat down ready for the 2nd days lecture. I heard how one of the Junior instructors opened a girl with the same opener that one of the students just used on the same girl and was blown out of the set. Even though the club was so loud the students were barely about to get their words across the instructors were unaffected by this due to their delivery. I hadn't signed up for the infield seccion, hopefully I'll have the money to afford that soon after graduation, but the lecture portion was worth every penny.

I got there a bit early for the last day and spotted Hobbes. I thought I'd run my stake for shits and giggles. It's strange infield my words run almost flawlessly, but when I practice at time I can barely get the words out. This was no exception.

Hobbes got up and said, "Try it like this. Hey guys do you think drunk I love you's count?..." I stood there in amazement at his delivery. It was light years beyond my attempt to rush the words out. He continued with a story and thou I didn't pickup on the DHVs. I did feel the emotional roller coaster of that story (I used the story with great results. Thanks Hobbes, I owe you one :). )

Summary

Positives:
-Great Lectures
-Excellent tips on Sticking point to look out for
-Worth the money
-My game grow by leaps and bounds
-I was able to meet Discovery, I hope this isn't the last time I see him
-It's far better to see kino escalation rather then read about it
-Met many really cool guys
-Enjoyed talking to Colgate and Hobbes

Negatives:
-There was a lot of material, we weren't about to cover it all.
-The first club, everyone complained was to noisy. Thou it does prove that the delivery is far more important then the words.
-Mystery wasn't there
-We never finished the lectures on time (Can't complain, I enjoyed being there.)

If you have plateaued or your game has slowed down and you can't figure out why or if you've just never been to a bootcamp. I would defiantly recommend going to one (I have only been to a Venusian Arts bootcamp, so I don't know how the other ones are). I might just see at one.