Free bootcamp? WHAT?

[Vedran]

I'm willing to teach guys for free til sept.10th here in milwaukee. sept 10th, my month long vacation starts. Inquire within

[DateDemon]

I am curious what will this "boot camp" entail? I won't be attending but I am curious

[Greystoke]

What credentials do you have to 'teach' bootcamps anyway?

I dont mean to be rude but there are so many pseudo-gurus out there, and they all think that they are the real deal.

[DateDemon]

Haha I love how the guy that is asking for credentials has the signature " I don't need your validation" Yea I don't know if he is qualified either but I mean he could be and apparently he isn't charging for his services so someone could always just leave. Who knows though he may be awesome

[Cedar]

This is spam and should be removed from the website.

[Flavio]

Vedrane jel si ti Shell?

Love,
Flavio

[Vedran]

Its spam? Oh you think so, Doctor? Basically all I am doing is trying to help guys better their game, and here comes in a dude full of himself because he attended a seminar. Is it wrong for me to want to help people become better at attracting women and bettering their lives? And Date Demon has it nailed down. If anyone wants to leave during the proceedings, I am not stopping you.

What a "bootcamp" would entail is some basic shit:

1. The basics of attracting women
2. Taking you out in the field and showing you how to do it
3. Me coaching you in the field.

I never claimed I am a guru nor will I do that. That'd be stupidity at it's highest peak.

For anyone doubting me, you are free to do so, and for anyone willing to attend and give things a shot, get a hold of me.

I don't discriminate against non believers in the game attending. I don't discriminate against nationalities, creeds, religions, genders, sexual preferences. The only thing I might dislike is if you have foul body odor.

[Cedar]

Its spam? Oh you think so, Doctor?


You're advertising a competing product to a Venutian Arts bootcamp. But mine's free. It's still advertising a competing product. Poor form.

P.S. Lot of anger in your post. I'd caution anyone considering your bootcamp. It's not a healthy trait in a teacher.

[Greystoke]

and here comes in a dude full of himself because he attended a seminar.

I have read Cedar's posts on the old and new forums. He is not just a seminar junkie. Cedar has helped out at several bootcamps if my memory is correct. Cedar's lay reports show he has great game. The same can not be said of you, Vedran. You are full of yourself when you claim you can teach this stuff. Cedar has taught this stuff.

Is it wrong for me to want to help people become better at attracting women and betterig their lives?

yes, good intentions are not enough. you need real and practical understanding of social dynamics. All you seem to offer is to rehash the stuff that you have read or watched from other gurus' products.


What a "bootcamp" would entail is some basic shit:

1. The basics of attracting women
2. Taking you out in the field and showing you how to do it
3. Me coaching you in the field.

Did someone coach you? How do you know that your game is not full of holes, which your unsuspecting students will copy and this will mess up their game too.


I never claimed I am a guru nor will I do that. That'd be stupidity at it's highest peak.

You said it yourself. Stupidity. :D

I don't discriminate against non believers in the game attending. I don't discriminate against nationalities, creeds, religions, genders, sexual preferences. The only thing I might dislike is if you have foul body odor.

That statement says the opposite of what you are claiming you are. Trying to make a mockery of discrimination shows how prejudiced you actually are.

Someone, please delete this thread. Vedran just wants to advertise here for free, with full knowledge that the forum is owned and provided by Mystery's VA.

[Vedran]

Hahaha...over analyzing is one of your biggest credentials, young friend. Secondly, the final statement in my post was simply some humor, which either you don't seem to understand or does not translate over the internet. You can try to dissect my game as full of holes, but unless you've seen it, I don't think you can. Furthermore, I am willing to deal with people that don't believe in my abilities, because there are a lot more people out there with those things in mind, rather than having a positive outlook on things, hence that being one of the reasons that the PUA community exists. A valid question to ask me would be to question as to why the bootcamp would be free. The reason is, I am getting having more guys come out and be taught these things, so why would I charge them for something that isn't perfect. The teaching isn't perfect....nothing is, but as time goes on I'd get better adjusted to how people feel about the game (newbies) and in that sense get a better understanding as to how to teach them. I want to advertise for free...right. No one else is doing it, correct? No one else has a link to their blog or website in their signatures besides me? Lackluster point there, sir. I didn't blatantly say "Visit my website" in the title of the thread, nor did I make anyone do anything. I was trying to extend a helping hand to guys who need it. I don't know what you call em, but you just might be one of those "PC PUAs", forum gurus that don't really go into the field and only critique people's shit for the sheer pleasure of doing so. If you aren't, then you deserve the respect that is due to you and Cedar, but cutting down an idea in trying to help people, for free isn't exactly helpful or friendly, it kind of defeats the purpose.

If you have previously taught people and have some input as to how to get started, that'd be appreciated. If I come off as crass, that's my mistake.

You're advertising a competing product to a Venutian Arts bootcamp. But mine's free. It's still advertising a competing product. Poor form.

P.S. Lot of anger in your post. I'd caution anyone considering your bootcamp. It's not a healthy trait in a teacher.

Hey, it's your duty as someone with more experience to do so, and that's fine, as you should. You're more successful than most patrons on this board. However, I can only attempt to assure you I do not. I'm rather docile. But thank you for your critique anyway. I do see how in your eyes it is advertising. I'm not trying to make any money off anyone, so maybe I should have better thought out my means of trying to help guys out, perhaps even under a different label than "bootcamp".

[Cleric]

Vedran,
I use the same model to sell my real estate investment classes. I start with the offer to speak for free to clubs/groups and do a room close for the weekend class upsell that I charge people to attend. I'm good at the room close and generally close 20% of the room. If I can get a room of 50, that's 10 people closed in a lot less time that it would take to close them individually. It's the public speaking business and you could just be upfront about what you're doing.

Cleric

[Vedran]

Thank you for your advice man. It's much appreciated.