German Opener (slightly tested, no good results)

[spazz]

So I've only had a few average results but I just wanted an opinion on the opener I used tonight. About 99% of the sets I approached(for practice sake male and female) were German. One of the biggest hurdles I have encountered is that I don't speak German. Germans are taught english in school so I thought "Why not use that to my advantage instead of the other way around?" Here's how it goes.

You: Just about any opener you can think of (make it decent cause they'll either see right through it or they really do know english and they're playing dumb).

Her: (Something in German, I can't understand it.)

You: Hey, I know you were taught english in school, why not try to be polite.

Her: She'll say just about any random thing, be ready to somehow dismiss it and throw in your frame.

Now teach her a lesson in manners(this seemed to work best when there was a guy in the group). Hold out your hand for a handshake. Most of the time the guy will take it and you open him just like any normal male obstacle. Pass your hand along, typically your target, and usually one or two others in the set, will not take it. Since you know, and she knows you know, that she speaks english
You: Where I'm from it's polite to shake a hand given to you(neg).

Offer to the male(or one that originally accepted) again. Once she takes it tell her that she has a good, firm/limp, fish grip and either teach her proper handshake etiquette(DHV if done right) or move to her friend(male or female) and compliment their handshake(IOD at the target while DHV'ing at the same time).

From there it's on you to hook and continue. I can't get a hook, but I'm new so maybe y'all will have more success.

Opinions?

[Rick Tiero]

It's to much unto her, putting her in a bad role, you are not acting as if it could happen.

It also becomes a bit wierd, you need a better comeback, why would you randomly speak german to her?

you take on the role of a teatcher, that sometimes buys you time, but you need better routines to back it up.

Besides acting as if you need to teach her manners won't fall well on the girl who actually has gone out and is doing an effort to be nice and give every player a fair chance.

Remember there are many good really sexy nice girls out there, forget about the bitch, they are nothing to spend brain activity on. Make routines that makes it easy on the good girls. Like the arrested opener or a situational that you back up with really good raport building spiced with some small routines every once in a while(daygame)

I'd say you need to take a 30 days break and focus on yourself. If you have not done so in a while. Feel free to read my 30days break thread at the helth section, it's pretty sad that no one seems to care about it because it is the best advise I can give, the reason for why is that you can't eliminate failure entirely, and some failures are going to come in order for you to learn.

So I pretty much take it easy on the eliminating failure advice and harder on the create more chances for sucsess material, developing personal strength etc. And a 30days break where you devote the energy you spend on concerns about women to yourself really allows you to get back in the game better than you left.