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All right heres a question ive been grappling with for quite a while. Sooner or later a girl im gaming will ask me what sports I play. Now aside from running (still need to train for cross country) im nearly a black belt in a martial artform called Seikido. Its a combination of Tea Kwon Do (Olympic fighting style) and Aikido (mainly pins, throws and controls like judo).
I realize this can be quite a powerful DHV if I can transition into it properly and without bragging but I cant for the life of me think how to make it sound cooler/ not bragging :P I think the main problem is that its not as common as say boxing (even tho this is more intense most of the time).
If for example you say to a girl "oh im a boxer, i fight in tournaments across the country every month or so" in passing and not bragging its an amazing DHV cause it brings up so many other questions (can he protect me, hes got to be in shape ext)
But for Seikido its tougher because its hard to explain to someone who doesnt know about it. Ive played with the idea of calling it kickboxing and it did work well but i still feel as if it’s not congruent.
Any ideas on how to make this flow a lil better or phrase it differently so that it cuts back on the explaining time? If I can make this a solid routine it would be amazing because I already have grounded aspirations and goals for Seikido which would add to it (starting my own school ext).
Thanks in advance for the ideas, if we can get this tight ill have an original and grounded routine for the future.
Anestis
08-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Now, as I understood you have not yet found the right routine to let a girl know that youre a master at what you do.
Where I grew up people who where good at things NEVER ever mentioned it unless someone asked them what they did or if they where good at something.
By doing this, youre not the one mentioning it and therefore it can be constructed into and IOIs by letting a girl ask you first and then answer something like this:
HB(?): So, how come youre so fit? do you do any sports?
You: Well, its hard to explain, but I do a form of martial arts called (....),
its a mix of this and tht, and its kinda like kickbocksing but rougher;)
HB(?): Ohh, thts cool i guess... how loong have you been doing it for?
You: couple of years, what about you, do you do any kind of exercise?(youre turning the conversation on to her now and everybody LOVES to talk about themselves).
HB(?): I used to do this and that, but now I just workout at the gym.
You: Thats great! sounds like youre an active girl, maby I could help you out sometime you know;)
HB: well im not THAT into workingout, but thanx anyway...
from here and on just flip the conversation to something about her, or do some mystery tricks, Im still kinda new at this, but it comes naturally to me while im talking, this is just my two cents so i hope it will help you:)
Peace
alright thanks thats a great idea man, just reading that made me start to get more ideas. just a quick suggestion, what about making it go something like this:
hb: so what sports do you do?
me: oh im a tournamnet fighter, im a black belt (ill upgrade cause i get it in a few months) in seikido, kinda like kickboxing except ruffer (thanks anestis i like the ruffer part)....(depending on girl and time in interaction i can move into training, fun story about seikido, or if in confort move into grounding sequence about how i want to start up my own school ext)
keep the ideas comin guys thanks
Silva
08-23-2007, 05:08 AM
teach her a grapple move for kino ;) offer her a fight...... say you can kill a man with a solid stare..... stare her out..... ;)
oscarkool2
08-23-2007, 02:54 PM
hmm being a PUA for awhile now, i do disagree with you guys a bit. If she says "oh i just workout at the gym from time to time" this really seems like shes blowing you off haha. id respond with "wow i expected you to be more interesting than that, cmon there must be something else youre passionate about" and when she tells you, dont be like "thats great!" total nice guy behavior. you gotta transition into deep convo. Respond with "so what is it about ______ that you like? how does it make you feel" etc. dig into her feelings. youve heard this from even your mother, girls love talking about their feelings. youve just never been taught how. its a simple transition but godly at building quick rapport and getting into the comfort phase very quickly
Cedar
08-24-2007, 11:42 AM
...im nearly a black belt in a martial artform called Seikido. Its a combination of Tea Kwon Do (Olympic fighting style) and Aikido (mainly pins, throws and controls like judo)...
You have a deep desire to tell everyone this. And you're looking for a way to do so without being a braggart. Without it being a big deal. But there's no way to do that. If you feel the need to tell people about it, it's because it's a big deal to you.
What you're looking for is subtlety. You can only accomplish this if your martial arts is NO BIG DEAL TO YOU. Show what is normal. Normal is a backdrop. It's no big deal. Tell what is abnormal.
You NEVER tells stories about what's normal. You tell a story about something abnormal, with normality in the background.
I have a lovely story about a smelly girl. It happens while I'm swimming with whales. In the artic. The whales are nothing but backdrop. Adventurous trips are normal TO ME. Every story I tell involves me being on some wacky trip. A girl who absolutely reeks, that's weird. Weirder that her friends aren't telling her about it.
If I told a story about swimming with whales... then it wouldn't be normal to me.
Your martial arts needs to be the backdrop for something else. Oh, and NEVER use the words 'martial arts' or it's specific name. And don't talk about it. Tell a story about being 'at practice,' or 'this one time at the gym,' or 'I'm at tournament and this wacky adventure happens.' Don't explain what the tournament was for, or why you were there. You go to tournaments. That's normal. Let her ask why. Or better yet, show her.
Maybe you're at a tournament when this wacky thing happens, and you intervene in some wacky boy/girl drama, and the girl gives you a kiss, but you hate drama so you walk off.
There. A story that has nothing to do with martial arts.
The catch. You have to NOT WANT TO TELL EVERYONE ABOUT YOUR MARTIAL ARTS. Get over it. IT IS NORMAL TO YOU. WHY would you tell everyone about it?
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