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cigamxes
01-21-2007, 11:47 PM
A thin model quality hottie works in the same building as I do. She is one of those i am hot and I know it HBs who teeters on having super high self esteem and super low self esteem. So anyway this girl has a live in boyfriend but of course rarely mentions him in my presence (when he's mentioned it is always in a negative light). So after an afterwork day2 where she showed major interest she invited me to go skiing with her this weekend at her girl friend's cabin and explicitly said the boyfriend won't be coming. I am not completely in the clear though and a couple of issues are at work.

1. This girl is a notorious flake (surprise) so I need advice regarding flake prevention in this situation.

2. I need ideas of how to play with her insecurities (similar to push/pull, showing active disinterest) since she is the type of girl that responds to that. ex. She gets upset if I invite other girls to lunch but will usually flake if I ask her to lunch.

Odyssey
01-22-2007, 01:59 AM
Dude, go on the trip. It'll be fun.

If she's there with you alone (which is the situation, I guess?) she won't flake. if she does, she's all by herself...

That being said, you can use her self esteem fluctuations as a powerfull weapon. especially those kina girls love when you can look past her top layer.

Do the cube, tell her she looks confident but that she ain't inside.
She will feel a bond coz she'll now you understand her on emotional level :)

OD

rockdon
01-22-2007, 06:55 AM
I've encountered a similar situation before, and from the experience I can recommend the following:

1.) If she does flake, don't react right at the time. Either have back up plans or fake it that you do. Too many HBs that have boyfriends love to get off on getting guys hopes up and crashing them just to feel like they still have power over men. Next time you see her be the same way you always are, just wait until she tries to get you to jump through a hoop, bust on her for it. Just stay non-needy, you know the drill.

2.) Watch out for sexual shit tests. From my exp, the girl started coming on to me incongruent to the state of the situation, soI just laughed at her. When her jaw dropped that I wasn't jumping at the first opportunity to get with her, she just wanted it more that night. And the next.

3.) This is something I haven't tried before, but I reading your post prompted the idea. Since this chick doesn't like to compete with other HBs, do a phone call DHV involving another girl and "the other night." Could be supplemented with a folder of photos. When she has you isolated and thinks she can run the interaction, show her that even though you're there, you still have options. Just an idea.

Good luck and have fun man

Superfreak
01-22-2007, 08:20 AM
She asked you so I would not worry about it till it happened to be honest really then deal with it as a man, I honestly think you may be making it an issue and self doubting yourself. If you have played solid game up to this point then it should go fine.

Since I do not know you personaly do not take this wrong as it is a general statement but #1 reason guys fail with women is that we defeat ourselves through doubt. So go for it and then if she flakes have a backup plan in place and have a good time regaurdless of if she flakes or not.