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I sat down recently and decided I was going to do whatever it takes to get my acne under control for two reasons:
1. I feel really self conscious when a girl is kissing my cheek or any other area of my face (I know for damn sure I wouldnt kiss another girl's zits)
2. It will make me look older and the people at the ABC store wont catch onto my fake ID.
So I read a book: "Cure your acne in 3 days" that I got off of bitseduce, and the information made sense from a medicinal point and I decided to try it out.
Heres the plan:
Fast for three days to cleanse your system, only eating apples to help absorb all of the toxins. At the end of the day induce an enema to better cleanse your colon. After the enema is done wipe your face with castro oil and let it soak for 2 minutes. At the end of the three days drink a glass of grape juice to get the digestive system going again.
In additon to the 3 day plan I intent on taking the garlic and acidophilus pills that he recommended.
Ill let you guys know how it goes.
fishbulb
08-16-2007, 12:10 PM
One of the biggest scams in marketing history. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Diet does not affect acne in any way.
There are several things that actually work and you should experiment to find what works best for you. Products containing:
-Benzoyl Peroxide (2.5%)
-Salicylic acid
Or Antibiotics (see a doctor)
If you have severe acne (I'm guessing you don't) you'll need Accutane, and you can only get that from a dermatologist (skin specialist). I had severe acne for a couple of years and it fucked me up horribly, but I do know a lot about acne treatments as a result *yay*.
For the best advice go to the forum on www.acne.org
Abower The Don
08-16-2007, 12:22 PM
lol owned ^
Dude take those products (I have no idea what I'm talking about) instead of this suspicious diet thing.
oscarkool2
08-17-2007, 01:11 AM
how about you dont diss the natural diet until you try it... anyways, if you think certain medications will "cure" your acne (it wont), then keep dreaming. Pills and medication have never cured anything, they just prevent whatever it is until you stop taking it.
I prefer going the curing route. The apple diet isnt a scam if its free info. search apple detox or apple diet and youll come across loads of free info on how good it is for your body. Ive done it before and it incredibly helped my health and skin. So give it a go (and its really easy). Dont take medication, they dont work at all. Its the drug companies that are laughing to the bank.
Edit: i thought id add more. He is right about how diet doesnt affect acne. It doesnt. I call it the apple detox because that is what the apples do. They clean out your liver when consumed in large quantities. And the enema, well i never did it and it still worked good, that helps to washout the toxins just in case your body might reabsorb them (im not sure if they do but i guess it could). Basically, try to crap everyday. Some of us have good genes and dont get acne, while others lack the good liver genes that would prevent acne. So, do whatever you can to cure it. dont just toss pills down your throat hoping that they will cure it. theres no chance. I personally think the liver is the most important organ in your body besides the heart and brain.
Tsudo
08-17-2007, 01:23 AM
Hey guys, new guy here.
Some things I learned about acne while being on prednisone:
Acne is not caused by diet.
Acne comes from a few things such as bacteria and especially during adolescent males (puberty) it's caused by the skin reacting to the higher doses of testosterone being introduced into the body.
Thor, best ways to prevent acne is to prevent severe oily skin and contact bacteria. Do not sleep on your hands, drink plenty of water, wash your face daily and as far as medications? Salicylic acid is great but can dry the skin out thus requiring lotion. Although it is good stuff. Found in proactive and acne pads I believe. Benzoyl Peroxide is also very nice stuff and when I use it, I've found it doesn't dry nearly as much.
Accutane is very effective as it physical alters the size of the pores on the face and body, however it has to be taken over a good amount of time (as opposed to regular pads), you can only get it by prescription, and if you have any other illnesses such as liver or kidney diseases it's advised you don't take it as it's filtered through those two organs I believe. (sounds like an adv. for accutane but it's not hah).
By the way, I like this site, learning very much. The tactics used are incredible because it's all psychological. Wonderful.
Tsudo
oscarkool2
08-17-2007, 01:41 AM
its easy to talk the talk on a forum but i gaurantee only 5% of the guys here actually walk it.
Tsudo
08-17-2007, 01:44 AM
its easy to talk the talk on a forum but i gaurantee only 5% of the guys here actually walk it.
Do you mean actually taking the steps needed to achieve the goal? It can be done with a little initiative. If he develops a routine of just washing his face and using the pads or cream or pills everyday he should be better off in no time :)
fishbulb
08-17-2007, 05:53 AM
how about you dont diss the natural diet until you try it... anyways, if you think certain medications will "cure" your acne (it wont), then keep dreaming. Pills and medication have never cured anything, they just prevent whatever it is until you stop taking it.
I must be dreaming.:)
p.s. I don't do "dissing". I'm trying to help a brother out.
Well for the last 2 years Ive been on the medicine and after 2 years of taking it I think its safe to say that it didnt work for me. The acidophilus and garlic seem to be working.
And diet does affect your acne. Ask anyone who drinks coke and has acne, most of the time you can actually see your acne start to flair up before your done with the soda.
im on proactiv and it works great. i also try to stay away from soda and other greasy food as much as i can, weather or not diet has an effect on acne you will be healthier in general for it. oh and ya i herd about this apple diet, i just paid the money and got proactiv instead :P, ill continue to use it untill im older and naturally dont get as much acne anymore. and also an idea is going to a spa and getting a facial with extractions. it realie helps and when you combine it with anouther system (like proactiv) it realie gets better. basically the way i see it is, if i have to get a facial every 3 or 4 weeks and put creams o my face day and night to clear my acne and make me feel more confident (as well as get the girl easier) i will :) oh and btw quick question around what age do you stop getting acne? i know it depends but like around 17, 18 ish?
im on proactiv and it works great. i also try to stay away from soda and other greasy food as much as i can, weather or not diet has an effect on acne you will be healthier in general for it. oh and ya i herd about this apple diet, i just paid the money and got proactiv instead :P,
ill continue to use it untill im older and naturally dont get as much acne anymore. and also an idea is going to a spa and getting a facial with extractions. it realie helps and when you combine it with anouther system (like proactiv) it realie gets better.
basically the way i see it is, if i have to get a facial every 3 or 4 weeks and put creams o my face day and night to clear my acne and make me feel more confident (as well as get the girl easier) i will :)
oh and btw quick question around what age do you stop getting acne? i know it depends but like around 17, 18 ish?
Lewclan
08-19-2007, 12:40 AM
I was just on 6 months of high dose acutane (80-120mg a day). I didn't have horrible acne but I had acne that was pretty much incurable by all other means. BE WARNED! This is a VERY serious product. It does cure acne (pretty much evaporated mine right off my face). The side effects are horrendous though.
When I first started taking the drug my lips got so dry that they could crack and bleed. One time i got the mistake of ordering a hero; when i opened my mouth for the sandwich, my mouth cracked on both sides. It was egregiously painful as well as embarrassing, as blood flowed out like crazy. Ugh.
After I got that under control, my nostrils would get so dry that if I blew them the blood vessels would open and I would have really bad nose bleeds. On top of all this, your skin get really weak and comes off very easily. When I would get out of the shower I had to be careful not to rub too hard or alot of skin would come off.
Then the psychological effects kicked in. I am somewhat depressive, and the acutane amplified it tenfold. I would be so depressed that I wouldnt even get out of bed for school. I am a straight A student but my grades dipped into the c's for awhile because the acutane gives me a feeling of enormous hopelessness. I contemplated suicide almost every day for the last 3 months of my treatment. When I finally got off it after six months, my first week clean was spen in a vacation in italy. The withdrawal was INSANE.
This guy conned me into paying like ten dollars for a bracelet when it was really worth like 1, and when my mother and brother laughed at me, (not to be mean just at the audacity of the vender) I had such an intense rage. I wanted to kill everything. I started kicking stranger's cars (in a foreign country I might add) and screaming. My family had to drag me to the pantheon to try to calm me down. I was crazy like this for almost the entire vacation.
As you can see, acutane is a horrible, awful drug with some VERY detrimental side effects. I am finally starting to recover, but, that six months was easily the worst of my life. The physical and psychological effects of the drug may vary, so you might not have such a radical experience. However, the fact that the FDA is attempting to pull the drug off the market is a testament to the drug's dangerousness. BUT, my acne is COMPLETELY gone. It is all dead and I have a beautiful, smooth, handsome face now :D
Acutane - use at your own risk.
fishbulb
08-19-2007, 08:55 AM
Why didn't you take a lower does? I was on 60-80mg a day and my lips were a bit dry and my hair thinned a little. That was about it. I imagine if I'd been on 120mg a day I'd have suffered the same side effects as you.
Arborian
08-21-2007, 04:14 PM
doctors prescribe accutane... so Im sure that the dermatologist gave him that strength for a reason. many tests have to be run prior to being on that medicine before one takes it.
as for the OP, my own experience with acne is that it sucks so much. proactive works great for about 3 months, then stops.
I tried about eleventy billion things, including going to see the doctor, which if you havent done, should be your first step before fasting and eating apples or whatever the hell that is.
Im sure you know the causes of acne. I do. So I ended up making my own acne treatment specifically for me (med school student woo woo).
try this: salicylic acid, 2% pads. this will get rid of all of your dead skin cells and open up the pores for a strong anti-bacterial FACE wash. dont use your normal soap, its not as effective. then put on a moisturizer WITH a small dose of salicylic acid, to moisturize, but not to clog. my skin cleared up in a matter of a couple of days, and the hyperpigmentation is gone within 3 weeks.
youll have a lot more confidence playa :)
oscarkool2
08-24-2007, 11:30 PM
im on proactiv and it works great. i also try to stay away from soda and other greasy food as much as i can, weather or not diet has an effect on acne you will be healthier in general for it. oh and ya i herd about this apple diet, i just paid the money and got proactiv instead :P, ill continue to use it untill im older and naturally dont get as much acne anymore. and also an idea is going to a spa and getting a facial with extractions. it realie helps and when you combine it with anouther system (like proactiv) it realie gets better. basically the way i see it is, if i have to get a facial every 3 or 4 weeks and put creams o my face day and night to clear my acne and make me feel more confident (as well as get the girl easier) i will :) oh and btw quick question around what age do you stop getting acne? i know it depends but like around 17, 18 ish?
im 22 and i still get it. and ive seen people around the age of 35-40 with it. its all hereditary. dont blame yourself, blame your parents. all my brothers have it and most of my relatives. but you can prevent it (like doing the apple diet).
Khaos
08-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Yea adding my 2 cents, proactiv did wonders, i never worry about pimples, just as long as i wake up put it on, and before i sleep i apply it on as well and vwalla! im a chick magnet well sorta
Slick
10-09-2007, 12:53 AM
Take Acutane.
Slick
Christian Hans
10-09-2007, 01:20 AM
I took Accutane. It's the end-off of treatments for acne, but you have to go through some tough shit.
Its 6 months of pills. You have to get a blood-test done every month to make sure it isnt hurting you. There is a list about 2 pages long of all the side-effects people have had while on it.
So why would anyone take it?
Its been around for decades and >95% of people who use it don't experience more than one pimple a month for the rest of their lives. YES, it is PERMENANT. I don't get zits anymore save for one every once in a while that just becomes a red bump instead of the gross white-heads.
JekDaPUA
10-09-2007, 01:26 AM
I had perfectly clear baby smooth skin all through highschool last year broke out.. got on some anti biotics cleared up, then came back again.. so now im taking roaccutane, and its a bitch but its working
my advice is if its bad acne.. seek out a professional dermatologist.. who isnt commercial and comes well recommended.. n take the step to use roacctuane,l or what they suggest
but dnt do peels, n crap like that, dnt go on anti biotics (unless it isnt too server)
Match
10-10-2007, 09:46 PM
Acutane... sucks when you're on it like everyone said, but it's worth it once you're done.
lasthonor
10-11-2007, 04:31 PM
Check out the book The Clear Skin Diet on amazon.
The Clear Skin Diet translates many dynamic research findings in dermatology and nutritional sciences, helping to illuminate what has been a great source of confusion--the role of diet in acne. Drs Logan and Treloar provide insight and clear up the dietary confusion with an approach that guides the reader through simple and logical decisions. The text also incorporates relevant lifestyle factors that act together with diet in the promotion of skin and overrall health and well being. I strongly recommend this text for both patients and clinicians alike. Enjoy the read!" --Martin A. Katzman, MD, FRCP(C), Assistant Professor, Psychiatry - University of Toronto
Diet does have some affect on acne as does your lifestyle choices. Eat clean, exercise, take plenty of omega-3s.
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