Guy going to kill me, scared

[phoenix]

Not much to do with sarging. But I need some help.

As for why, I think he jsut wants a reason. The dudes little brother hates me cause, he tried to shove my friend down and sit beside him, and I told him that if he wanted a seat, he could ask politly and not shove ppl over, that was a year ago, so Its not to do with it, but i think his little brother def tries to edge him on. the little bro is always wanting to fight me, but He is in 8th grade and I simply tell him he is too young.


Now the big bro wants to fight me. remember, not connected to the little bro thing, that was a year ago, that was jsut for background info.


I had been out sarging, and wore all my peacocking gear to school.

That includes Eyeliner, and black fingernails, I was doing the whole rocker look.


now the kids on the bus were you know, "Are you gay" blah blah.

I wore the gear as a test, to see if i could handle it, and cause i thought i looked good. But i wont do it again, i felt too self concious, and it fucked with my head.


anyhow, on the bus, heading home, I keep reversing stuff, so when a kid will say i'm gay or make a comment on the make up, i turn it around and act like their hitting on me.

it worked effectivly and me and my friend laughed about it.


but this one 8 yr old, i said something like, there sure are a lot of gay ppl in the back of the bus, i gotta start sitting up fron again.


Now this was cause, i always sit near the front, but today i jsut felt like sitting in the back with my friend.

it was after 3 or 4 little kids had made comments, and was reffering to the little kids.


but the 8 yo says he's telling on me, and walks to the back of the bus, and tells everyone, i called everyone in the back of the bus gay.


Now i just explained, how i didnt do this.


well everyone is mad and looking at me, i hadnt got to explain, but one guys, D555 gets mad and stands up, starts all this, did you call me gay? stuff.

i tell him no, and explained, but he kept going around with it like "Well i sit in the back" blah blah. Angry and standing up, cleary just wanting to fight, i was starting to get pissed, and the dude goes "Well am i gay?" and I go "I don't know, are you?" it keeps going and finaly he just pissed me off, you guys understand i hope, and he is standing up and goes "Do you wanna fight!?"

and i stupidly respond "Come on!"

i was angry and being stupid, the bus driver makes us shut up now.

we get home, and i go to sleep.


now the thing is, the dude is one year younger then me, and taller then me, and made of muscles, and use to be on he basketball team.

Now I had a plan, and my wing was going to fight him, but we decided that could work (wing is too old, would be arrested)

So its a scary situation, i'm sitting at my house the next day, trying to figure out what to do, he wants me to meet him (We live VERY close)

finally wing says he is going to talk to him.

i cant talk him out of it, and i stay behind,

i was gonna fight the dude, and prob lose. (No muscle, no fat, just average, very weak) i jsut wanted to be sure i could win.

you know was thinking up strategies.


but wing heads up alone.

gets directions from a neighbor.


He comes back, and says he made a truce.

wing told me, fighting him wouldnt make me alpha, cause i was doing it cause i was afraid of ppl making fun of me if i didnt (kinda true :( ) but i also felt un alpha not fighting him, because i was being a wuss, im afraid of the dude.

i didnt know what to do, but wing did get me a truce.

thing is, the dude, goes on the bus the next day (I ride with my friend to school, bus back home) and tells everyone i wussed out, apoloigised, and backed down.

I can't fight, and after talking to the guy, my wing even said he was glad we hadnt fought, cause the dude was tough looking guy, and even he would have trouble, and my wing is very fit and well built.

so i kinda just didnt want to give him a reason to get pissed again.

but when ppl asked if it was true (two guys, both my aquaintences, that like me) i told them, that my cousin did talk to them, but i didnt back down, we made a truce from what i could tell, or something like that, i dont remember.

now today, like a week later, my neighbor comes up to me and says "A5555 wants to know if you wanna fight?" i told him no, and he comes back a minute later with "he wants to know why you have been saying stuff about him then" now i was gonna tell him to tell the dude "you shouldnt believe every rumor you hear" but wing told me to jsut not respond, so i told my neighbor not to go back and respond, and he said "good, thats a long walk"


now the dude, has been riding 289, which wont let us off at the hill we both live on, but makes us ride all the way to the grade school, back, and then up our hill.

thats what he haas been doing.

but ive been riding 271, which lets me off at the store next to the hill, i play it cool, and go inside the store till the high school buses go by, and then head back out, and up the hill.

now the guy, dosnt go to my school, but shows up, at the end of the day, and rides the bus home, (he goes to a school for kids who got in trouble, then takes a bus to my school, where he rides a bus home, thats how the system works here)

now the dude has def noticed me getting off at the store, his bus right behind mine.

and his little bro, yelled something toward me monday, missed tuesday. So i really think D555, will have figured out to ride the bus right in front of the one i typically ride.

so i cant avoid him.

i may get lucky and avoid him once more.

but monday i walked right passed him, luckkily he was turned around talking to someone, so i dont even know if i can get to the bus.


i dont want every calling me a wimp and shit, but i dont want every body in me broken, but i HATE getting made fun of. I was made fun of every year of my life before PUA, and its one think i cant take, if everyone makes fun of me for my last year, ill die.

like the emotional pain, the fact that ill be letting all my friends down (all though's who supported me and wanted to see me kick the dude's A**)

and i dont know what to do.


I havnt been in a fight and this guys been in a ton

i dont think id have a shot.

what do i do?

[Tiptop]

No need to post in multiple forums bro. I'm sure everyone here at least "glances" at all the forums. :P

[Waka]

So a guy thought you called him gay, and now wants to kill you?

Bring a concealed weapon if it really scares you that much.

[fishbulb]

Bring a concealed weapon if it really scares you that much.
No offense Waka, but that's the worst idea ever. That's how people get seriously hurt and sometimes killed.

I remember what it's like to have organised fights at school. You have a series of meetings to decide whether every party wants to fight. Then you set a date and crowds turn up for the entertainment :rolleyes:

Mate, don't even consider doing what your friends tell you. You are your own man. They just want some more excitement in their lives by seeing you fight. If you win, GREAT! If you get the shit beaten out of you, well they stood by your side all the way and showed what supportive friends they are.

[Waka]

No offense Waka, but that's the worst idea ever. That's how people get seriously hurt and sometimes killed.

Man I carry weapons with me all the time. When I met you I had a knife strapped to my ankle and a pair of metal knuckles in my back pocket.

It's saved me from being mugged on two seperate occasions. If someone comes up to you intending to hurt you, and you confidently bring out a knife and tell them to fuck off, they aren't going to do anything.
If they come up to you intending to hurt you and you're unarmed, you will get hurt.

Maybe I have the wrong idea, but untill I'm proved wrong, concealed weapons are the way to go.

Although I guess with school fights it's slightly different, so maybe my advice sucks. So yeah op, the only way to save face now is to fight him, and if necessary take a beating. It's not like it hurts that much, unless he REALLY hates you.

[TripleSeven]

Three words: Leader of men.

Next time he feels like starting some shit with you, bring your whole crew with you. Should he try to jump you, the lot of you beat the fuck out of him and teach him a very valuable lesson. The lesson that messing with you brings consequences.

[seldomseen]

after I could not avoid a fight once in high school I went on and fought this dude that had a reputation for fighting. I got my butt kicked but the next day I went back to school with nothing more than a big headache. Most fights end in less than 30 seconds. They get broken up for the most part.

You wouldn't be a coward if you don't fight him. You have nothing to gain but at the same time it's not as bad as you think. Put your fist high towards your face and kick him in the groin area (his weakest spot) then if you can kick his thighs hards (take out his thighs and he begins to weaken)

The only drawback to you actually winning is him wanting to fight you again. See how this crap can go in circles?

[fishbulb]

Am I living in a different world to the rest of you??? I just don't get into fights and it's never been a problem for me. I've had a couple of guys start on me in the past but if you don't retaliate it's easy to avoid coming to blows.
Man I carry weapons with me all the time. When I met you I had a knife strapped to my ankle and a pair of metal knuckles in my back pocket.

sounds like you've had a tough time sam

So yeah op, the only way to save face now is to fight him,
The best way to save face is to not need to save face. Who gives a shit what people think?

Next time he feels like starting some shit with you, bring your whole crew with you. Should he try to jump you, the lot of you beat the fuck out of him and teach him a very valuable lesson.
Yeah, my uncle who's a detective inspector in the London MET get's called out a couple of times a month because people have had the same idea as you.

The lesson that messing with you brings consequences.
.
Yup, in the cases I'm talking about the guy is dead and the "crew" are in court for manslaughter or murder.

My housemate's boyfriend is in prison because he thought it would be a good idea to stamp on a guys head during a fight. Bloke dies, two lives are ruined in one go. Lovely.

These are extreme examples but this is what happens when you escalate a situation. Don't let it escalate.

[Abower The Don]

Watch Fight Club.

[fishbulb]

Watch Fight Club.
LOL, I fucking love that film. I think accepting your own destruction and death is great, but at the same time I'm not going to cause it. That's just silly.

[TripleSeven]

Alright, maybe not beat the fuck out of him. Rattle him a little bit; violence generally isn't the answer, but I know if I'm fearing that my life will end due to the ignorance of another... I'd pull out all stops.

The non-violent way of handling this is simply get a court issued restraining order against him.

fishbulb, all we are is cavemen with a legal system.

[fishbulb]

fishbulb, all we are is cavemen with a legal system.
Haha, speak for yourself buddy ;)

[Anestis]

if you cant avoid him and have to fight him, then i got some small tips for you:

- First of all make sure you loose the fight. That might sound stupid, but then he will probably let you go in the future.

- Second, dont let him win easily, make sure you hit him as hard as you can in solar plexus(its the region between youre ribbons right where they stop, google it or something to find the right spot), if you succsefully hit him there then no matter how big he is he will loose his breath for a couple of seconds...
thts just enough to start hitting him as hard as you can(in the face) several times in the face without him being able to dogde=) he will get bruises in his face the next day and suddently ppl will make fun of him getting his ass kicked:P

- If you should miss solar plexus, which could happen, then hit him in the side of the neck, NOT DIRECTLY on his front neck but slightly on the side, which will again make him loose his breath=) then just hit him many times till he gets back to himself and either kicks youre ass, or backs off.

Remeber, if you do this, then he will know not to mess with you because youre then not a person who easily gives up without a fight.
He will then find someone else to pick on...

I have been in youre situation a million times before and had guys twice my size say sorry... i was small and weak just like you!

Also, you have to have youre thumb on the outside of youre fist before you hit him, if you dont do so then youre thumb will break! I learned the hard way...

try doing some pushups on youre carpet holding youre fists together, that way you will automticly learn how to hold them when you hit...

also, when u meet him to fight, dont think or hesitate but just talk and be cool and SUDDENLTY hit him as hard as you can and get REALLY AGGRESSIVE!!! that shit scares people like hell!!!

but bottom line is try not to fight:)

Good Luck!

[Waka]

Am I living in a different world to the rest of you??? I just don't get into fights and it's never been a problem for me. I've had a couple of guys start on me in the past but if you don't retaliate it's easy to avoid coming to blows.

Depends who starts on you I guess. I've lived among violent chavs all my life, and have been beaten up by a gang on two seperate occassions, and mugged successfully once. I find the best way to avoid coming to blows with guys like that is to confront them back with confidence and some kind of weapon.

sounds like you've had a tough time sam

Not really. But I am conscious about self defense.

Sorry though, I guess my own experiences aren't necessarily the same as others.

[Abower The Don]

I have a serious question for Waka: how big the knife, for phoenix ?

[phoenix]

Dont take PUA advice on fist fights

-Rewok

why not? They seem to know what thier talking about.

[Waka]

I have a serious question for Waka: how big the knife, for phoenix ?

It's not necessarily a case of how big. Like a lot of things, it's your confidence with it that makes it.

If you hold a cheap penknife in your hand with a confident look, and you tell them in an impolite way to go away, it's infinitely better than having a huge knife in a shaky grip and being unable to hold eye contact.

I'd suggest a 5/6 inch combat knife. You can easily hide that in your clothes, and it looks like you take yourself seriously. The more expensive it looks, especially if it looks used, is usually the better. You can buy expensive looking knives for not much, completely legally.

Otherwise if you want raw impressiveness, go for a switchblade, stiletto style if at all possible. Horrendously illegal, but it's all too easy to obtain one in eastern europe and smuggle it back, not that I've done that of course ;).

[fishbulb]

Why not just dress well and hold yourself with confidence? Nobody will start on you if you look like a normal/high value person unless you provoke them.

Waka, do you mind me giving you a piece of advice? If you're cool read on, if not, pretend the following paragraph doesn't exist.

I would say ditch the trainers and learn to dress in fashion a bit more- doesn't have to be expensive or stand out. Just don't dress like a person who gets bullied...
Make a small effort. People will look at you in a totally different way. :)

[phoenix]

Why not just dress well and hold yourself with confidence? Nobody will start on you if you look like a normal/high value person unless you provoke them.

Waka, do you mind me giving you a piece of advice? If you're cool read on, if not, pretend the following paragraph doesn't exist.

I would say ditch the trainers and learn to dress in fashion a bit more- doesn't have to be expensive or stand out. Just don't dress like a person who gets bullied...
Make a small effort. People will look at you in a totally different way. :)

The guy dosnt seem to be consciously going to all efforts to try and fight me.

But sooner or later we'll meet paths, I've go past the high risk point, but this week, the week after, or even a month from now, ill have to ride the morning bus with him.

This thread isnt about me anymore, its about every PUA who dosn't know how to fight.

Sure we can always amog but one of these days were gonna mess up, just like when you screw up on a set. Were gonna have to defend ourself.


I've heard a thousand and one ways to fight but which one works?

Ive got an ideal what ill say to try and avoid it, but if it looks bad, ill keep my voice low, keep chatting and just out of nowhere, throw the first hit.


thing is ive heard of so many places where i should throw the first hit.


1. Adam's Apple - Supposedly make him choke and give me a few seconds.
2. Nose- Break his nose, bloody, hopfully throw him off guard.
3. Solar Plexus- I have a good ideal where it is, and i understand all our nerves meet there, but is it really gonna make a difference?
4. Side of the neck- knock the breath out of him.


problems? Well I'm afraid of seriously injuring the guy if i hit him in his big ass adam's apple.

Nose is so risky, the dudes taller then me, so ill have to swing up, at him, and i really think he'll see it coming.

ive only had one guy tell me solar plexus and side of neck, so i dont know much about this ideal/



Two.- if i distracted him with my left hand, and was like "Id much rather be right over there rather then fighting you" while pointing with my left hand. would he look, would i get hte first hit, would it be smart.

how do i hold a fist?

my cousin, who has a kick boxer for a friend, taught me this way.

you hold your fingers all up, and pull them down hard/tight.

put your thumb across your knuckles.

and then loosen your fist.

you swing and turn yourfist throughout the fight.

hard to describ.

anyhow what do u guys think about that?

[Anestis]

I gave u my best advice and when saying the side of the neck or solar plexus, either way youre not going to kill him or seriously injur him, he is most probably going to loose his breath and if youre really lucky wit the hit he will pass out fora few seconds... if the guy looses his breath then he will completly stop up and not think about anything else than getting his breath back.... that gives you the time you need to kick his ass and truly show him not to mess with you=)

Im telling you this because ive been in youre situation so many times, and with a lot worse people wanting to fight me all alone. so please take the advice seriously, because if you cant avoid him and he wont forget it then youre gonna have to fight him one day...

The day he confronts you just talk to him for like 3 seconds like his youre very best buddy with a nice tone and suddently hit him with FULL thrust...

That shocks everyone! everyone around you and including him will be completly shocked! suddently his scared for a fraction of a second and thts when youre gonna turn on youre MEAN switch and go 110% aggressive on him!

It has worked for me numeros times, and i doubt it wont work for u....
so, just show him whos the MAN:)!!!

Peace

[A.J.]

tl;dr

it was fine till i read like for 30 seconds straight and there was still way more to go.... and also remember we dont need everysingle piece of info, read the post by wilder on story telling :P chop out everything you can :P (see this stuff is useful for more then getting girls :P)

[phoenix]

I gave u my best advice and when saying the side of the neck or solar plexus, either way youre not going to kill him or seriously injur him, he is most probably going to loose his breath and if youre really lucky wit the hit he will pass out fora few seconds... if the guy looses his breath then he will completly stop up and not think about anything else than getting his breath back.... that gives you the time you need to kick his ass and truly show him not to mess with you=)

Im telling you this because ive been in youre situation so many times, and with a lot worse people wanting to fight me all alone. so please take the advice seriously, because if you cant avoid him and he wont forget it then youre gonna have to fight him one day...

The day he confronts you just talk to him for like 3 seconds like his youre very best buddy with a nice tone and suddently hit him with FULL thrust...

That shocks everyone! everyone around you and including him will be completly shocked! suddently his scared for a fraction of a second and thts when youre gonna turn on youre MEAN switch and go 110% aggressive on him!

It has worked for me numeros times, and i doubt it wont work for u....
so, just show him whos the MAN:)!!!

Peace



Thanks,I'll halfway take your advice.

I;; try and talk out of it, but if i jsut feel mega super pissed that day, or if i dont think i can talk out of it, then I'll do what you said.

Thanks.

[Waka]

Why not just dress well and hold yourself with confidence? Nobody will start on you if you look like a normal/high value person unless you provoke them.

I'm sorry mate but this makes no sense.

If you dress well it implies money. And thus you will become a prime target for muggers. The only 'high value' aspect that won't just improve your chances of being attacked is if you have friends with you.

Think about it. You're a mugger in the park. would you rather target the chav thats getting wasted on white lightning on the swings, or the well dressed guy having an evening walk? Admittedly I'm talking extremes, but seriously.

Of course this is if you stray into the dodgier areas of town, so this debate is kind of straying off topic.

Waka, do you mind me giving you a piece of advice? If you're cool read on, if not, pretend the following paragraph doesn't exist.

I would say ditch the trainers and learn to dress in fashion a bit more- doesn't have to be expensive or stand out. Just don't dress like a person who gets bullied...
Make a small effort. People will look at you in a totally different way. :)

I'm not talking about being bullied. I guess you misunderstood my posts.

If I get attacked for non-monetary gain it's usually due to my ginger hair and is irrelevant to this thread. Several times I have been with a friend, and a chav has approached me saying a less polite version of 'I don't like you because you're ginger. Wanna fight?' So I tell him to go away, again less politely, and I get punched in the face for my efforts. This has even happened in the middle of the guildhall outside WH smith when I was with two friends, so go figure.

I advocate being able to protect yourself should it be necessary. Of course I don't immediately pull a knife when comfronted with one of these assholes, I definitely try to talk my way out of it. But if that fails, what can you do if you don't have something to protect you? If I could, I'd carry a gun.

Obviously you've never been mugged, Fraser. If you had and you had your wallet and phone stolen when a knife would have stopped it from happening, perhaps you'd agree with me.

[phoenix]

I'm sorry mate but this makes no sense.

If you dress well it implies money. And thus you will become a prime target for muggers. The only 'high value' aspect that won't just improve your chances of being attacked is if you have friends with you.

Think about it. You're a mugger in the park. would you rather target the chav thats getting wasted on white lightning on the swings, or the well dressed guy having an evening walk? Admittedly I'm talking extremes, but seriously.

Of course this is if you stray into the dodgier areas of town, so this debate is kind of straying off topic.



I'm not talking about being bullied. I guess you misunderstood my posts.

If I get attacked for non-monetary gain it's usually due to my ginger hair and is irrelevant to this thread. Several times I have been with a friend, and a chav has approached me saying a less polite version of 'I don't like you because you're ginger. Wanna fight?' So I tell him to go away, again less politely, and I get punched in the face for my efforts. This has even happened in the middle of the guildhall outside WH smith when I was with two friends, so go figure.

I advocate being able to protect yourself should it be necessary. Of course I don't immediately pull a knife when comfronted with one of these assholes, I definitely try to talk my way out of it. But if that fails, what can you do if you don't have something to protect you? If I could, I'd carry a gun.

Obviously you've never been mugged, Fraser. If you had and you had your wallet and phone stolen when a knife would have stopped it from happening, perhaps you'd agree with me.

Respect man, sounds like you live an exciting life. :cool:

[Python]

Try the Mystery Method: Go f'in crazy. Crazy always beats strong.

Personally, I prefer to turn a fight into a wrestling match(mainly because I'm a lot better with leverage than I am at throwing punches). No one ever sees this strategy coming, because most punks assume "fighting" just mean "boxing." Tackle him to the ground, get behind him and choke him out. Done and done.

[junkyfungus]

I don't usually post in the 18-21 threads but I might be able to help you here. I've been in a few scraps in my 39 years and I can tell you from experience how to help yourself.

When he starts talking shit immediately understand it's his way of psyching himself up. He's scared or he would have attacked already. Don't ever say anything except look him straight in the eyes. Crack a sly smile like you know something he doesn't, but under no circumstances let him invade your space. Keep your distance (Rule of thumb: One arms length without reaching the shoulder in minus 6 inches) It helps when you need to smash his fucking skull in with your fist.

Get dirty, get nasty, be prepared to destroy his existence and life. It may sound ruthless and mean spirited but be prepared to bite his nose off and tear his eyes out. Fighting is about survival and you need to be prepared to destroy remorselessly.

Remember his words are an expression of his fear. The louder the more scared he is. If he breaks your barrier then using your fist crack him as hard as you can in his soloplex while screaming bloody fucking murder and then kick his fucking leg out hopefully breaking it and thus crumpling him to the ground while you jump onto his face with your elbow caving in his nasal cavity pushing his cartilage into his brain and killing him. Please don't forget to bite his face, preferably if you actually can spit out his skin all the while having his blood dripping down your chin onto your shirt. A white shirt to accentuate his blood would be best.

Most importantly is the repetitive blows to his temple so in eventuality you do not kill him you will at least cause extreme brain damage! Please continue to scream obscenities all the while.

Of course I learned all that while training in the US Army Advanced Combat School for Hand To Hand Combat.

Or you could simply say I don't need to fight you and walk the other way. If he strikes you pray that he leaves a mark, call the police, have him arrested, hire and attorney and file suit against his rich parents for not controlling their incorrigible son. With the money you obtain via lawsuit buy new clothes and a car so you won't have to take the bus.

You could follow my "joke" advice on beating him to death and suffer anal rape in prison where you will not need your Pick-Up skills or be the real man and walk away.

[phoenix]

I don't usually post in the 18-21 threads but I might be able to help you here. I've been in a few scraps in my 39 years and I can tell you from experience how to help yourself.

When he starts talking shit immediately understand it's his way of psyching himself up. He's scared or he would have attacked already. Don't ever say anything except look him straight in the eyes. Crack a sly smile like you know something he doesn't, but under no circumstances let him invade your space. Keep your distance (Rule of thumb: One arms length without reaching the shoulder in minus 6 inches) It helps when you need to smash his fucking skull in with your fist.

Get dirty, get nasty, be prepared to destroy his existence and life. It may sound ruthless and mean spirited but be prepared to bite his nose off and tear his eyes out. Fighting is about survival and you need to be prepared to destroy remorselessly.

Remember his words are an expression of his fear. The louder the more scared he is. If he breaks your barrier then using your fist crack him as hard as you can in his soloplex while screaming bloody fucking murder and then kick his fucking leg out hopefully breaking it and thus crumpling him to the ground while you jump onto his face with your elbow caving in his nasal cavity pushing his cartilage into his brain and killing him. Please don't forget to bite his face, preferably if you actually can spit out his skin all the while having his blood dripping down your chin onto your shirt. A white shirt to accentuate his blood would be best.

Most importantly is the repetitive blows to his temple so in eventuality you do not kill him you will at least cause extreme brain damage! Please continue to scream obscenities all the while.

Of course I learned all that while training in the US Army Advanced Combat School for Hand To Hand Combat.

Or you could simply say I don't need to fight you and walk the other way. If he strikes you pray that he leaves a mark, call the police, have him arrested, hire and attorney and file suit against his rich parents for not controlling their incorrigible son. With the money you obtain via lawsuit buy new clothes and a car so you won't have to take the bus.

You could follow my "joke" advice on beating him to death and suffer anal rape in prison where you will not need your Pick-Up skills or be the real man and walk away.

I was thinking "awesome adivce" until the whole, you know, bit his ear off shit. lmao.

[Anestis]

junkyfungus : YEAH U GO! hehe i love your sarcasm!!!

yea just do the last thing he said wiht the mark and suing him to then buy a car and new clothes;) I would never thought of tht one, hehe....

[stolen crown]

Well I have not been in HS for a few years but here is a bit of insight I learned for that areana...You mentioned the kid is in sports...if he gets caught fignting most schools will suspend him from the team for a certian amount of games...Remind him that he has something to lose and you don't...secondly while a solar plexus shot or a side of neck is handy as an amature you are not totally sure of the locaton also remember you legs are a lot stronger then your arms and there is no pride in a physical confrontation...aim for a kick to the front or side of the knee...or the fucking jewels...winning matters not how you win kick him in the nuts when he drops if you feel it necessary grab him by the hair and knee him in the face...sure its shitty and underhanded but a win is a win and there are no rules in a fight...trust me when I say the guy will think twice about fucking with you again even if he thinks it was bullshit.

[Revel]

Guys this is going to be my first post on this forum, I'm one of these guys who doesn't post unless I've got a thought out response which is thoroughly field tested.
This guy that you're scared of has some major issues (I'd say this applies to most of the guys on this thread). His way of gaining validation is from the fear and attention he gets turned his way when he manages to bully someone.
Now here's the hardest part of my solution. Ignore him!!! I will say it again "Ignore Him!!!". If the guy is psychotic enough to come after you without any further provocation then he's psychotic enough to be locked away as a danger to society. Are you going to live your life scared? Why should you? If (and I want to make it clear that it's a big "IF") he decides to come after you. Deal with it then. The way you deal with it, is you call the police and you run away. It's not wussy it's intelligent and that's one thing that PUA's are. We are Intelligent!!! Your average "Alpha" isn't. He has grown up fighting, facing him on his terms makes you stupider than him.

Here's the next part of the solution.. Stop passing messages through your friends and talk to him face to face yourself!!! Ask him about his antagonistic attitude if nescessary, feed what he says back at him. Let him realise how stupid it sounds. By passing messages through your friends you are trying to push the fear you feel about this guy away from yourself. Fear does not go this way!!! You have to face that fear with your intellect. Hell you might even find that by talking to him you earn some of his respect and he might be a decent person underneath, you might even make a new friend. THIS IS BEING A LEADER OF MEN. NOT TAKING A GANG OF YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS ALONG TO BEAT UP THE BIG GUY!!!!!.

Lastly from your physical description of yourself you're quite a small build. You aren't designed for strength based fighting techniques and you're more likely to break your hand by punching him than anything else.
A good alternative is Aikido. Find a class and learn it. It is an unarmed technique which will suit your small size. Basic principles include things like If he uses 80% of his energy to attack it only takes 20% of yours to redirect it and vice versa. I've seen little guys slim as rakes restrain guys who look like bouncers with a simple wrist movement and it's not about strength, It's pure technique. You don't stand to take the hit. You don't make a hard block. You take his attack and let it flow around you. You use his strength against him.
It takes time to learn but when it is fully learned you can restrain anyone without even causing physical damage, I trust that as a potential PUA that you have enough intelligence to realise that true Alpha isn't about being the tough guy, it's about being the person who's in control.

ps. Fishbulb, some nice posts, seems it takes Exeter based people to bring some sense and calm to the world.

Guys don't be angry at the world, You're better than that!

[fishbulb]

Haha, Exeter PUA's to the rescue!

So many PUA's in Exeter... Lightfingers, you make the total about 20 that I know of who are members of these forums. Unless you're somebody I already know under a new name.

[Waka]

Respect man, sounds like you live an exciting life. :cool:

I think you're making fun of me, but I'll reply seriously regardless.

Exciting? No. I just live in a VERY dodgy area :(.

[David24]

of killing him then just go to youtube.com and search fight compiliation...
that will get your mind going on how much a human being actually can take...

plus for inspirations on fighting search: Kiss of the dragon;)
hope it helps

[anaethesia]

i did these once and the guy didnt fight....i told him i will not chiken out that if he wanted to kick the hell out of me he could but i wasnt going to touch him because it ment swet and time...i reminded him that if he kicked my ass it would because i woudnt fight him so he backed down.

[xenos]

Wait..... you ride the bus?


Seriously, ignore him and let him know that you aren't that 'immature'. Be the bigger man. Even use it to start convos with girls. You have, for a few weeks, the "Can you believe he wants to fight over a comment he doesn't even understand?! hahahalolz"

[Dark]

Haha, Exeter PUA's to the rescue!

So many PUA's in Exeter... Lightfingers, you make the total about 20 that I know of who are members of these forums. Unless you're somebody I already know under a new name.

Lol you're right actually ... there is a fair few. Must be something in the water :P.

Lightfingers, are you a new guy or one of the old MM posters under a new name?

Dark

[Khaos]

O yea throw something at him thats the best because it'll stun him then u can knock him out, one or two punches to the face shud do it, if not ur weak so chokehold him and act crazy so ppl split u up, but if this goes down in school get ready to getsuspended which sucks for him more, cuz he's a jock right? i didnt read the whole thread sorry dude.

[phoenix]

Guys this is going to be my first post on this forum, I'm one of these guys who doesn't post unless I've got a thought out response which is thoroughly field tested.
This guy that you're scared of has some major issues (I'd say this applies to most of the guys on this thread). His way of gaining validation is from the fear and attention he gets turned his way when he manages to bully someone.
Now here's the hardest part of my solution. Ignore him!!! I will say it again "Ignore Him!!!". If the guy is psychotic enough to come after you without any further provocation then he's psychotic enough to be locked away as a danger to society. Are you going to live your life scared? Why should you? If (and I want to make it clear that it's a big "IF") he decides to come after you. Deal with it then. The way you deal with it, is you call the police and you run away. It's not wussy it's intelligent and that's one thing that PUA's are. We are Intelligent!!! Your average "Alpha" isn't. He has grown up fighting, facing him on his terms makes you stupider than him.

Here's the next part of the solution.. Stop passing messages through your friends and talk to him face to face yourself!!! Ask him about his antagonistic attitude if nescessary, feed what he says back at him. Let him realise how stupid it sounds. By passing messages through your friends you are trying to push the fear you feel about this guy away from yourself. Fear does not go this way!!! You have to face that fear with your intellect. Hell you might even find that by talking to him you earn some of his respect and he might be a decent person underneath, you might even make a new friend. THIS IS BEING A LEADER OF MEN. NOT TAKING A GANG OF YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS ALONG TO BEAT UP THE BIG GUY!!!!!.

Lastly from your physical description of yourself you're quite a small build. You aren't designed for strength based fighting techniques and you're more likely to break your hand by punching him than anything else.
A good alternative is Aikido. Find a class and learn it. It is an unarmed technique which will suit your small size. Basic principles include things like If he uses 80% of his energy to attack it only takes 20% of yours to redirect it and vice versa. I've seen little guys slim as rakes restrain guys who look like bouncers with a simple wrist movement and it's not about strength, It's pure technique. You don't stand to take the hit. You don't make a hard block. You take his attack and let it flow around you. You use his strength against him.
It takes time to learn but when it is fully learned you can restrain anyone without even causing physical damage, I trust that as a potential PUA that you have enough intelligence to realise that true Alpha isn't about being the tough guy, it's about being the person who's in control.

ps. Fishbulb, some nice posts, seems it takes Exeter based people to bring some sense and calm to the world.

Guys don't be angry at the world, You're better than that!



I'm not going to fight him. At least I don't plan to.

I actually havnt spoken to him or seen him in damn, more than two weeks i suppose.


I decided though.

There's this awesome girl that rides my bus home, and I"m half thinking of riding the bus in the mornings too (his bus) so i can hang out with this girl then.

oh and the if u wanna fight me u can, but i won't fight back, thats genius.

[phoenix]

I think you're making fun of me, but I'll reply seriously regardless.

Exciting? No. I just live in a VERY dodgy area :(.

No, I really meant it. I'm jealous.

[phoenix]

Finally had to ride his bus.

Got on.

sat down.

luckilly he hadnt said anything.


We pull into the gradeschool.


his brother walks by.


he aproaches.

Stops in front of me.


finally the doors of the bus opens and he continues off the bus, not a word said.


So i guess he is over it.

[Abower The Don]

Hahahahaha you over-melodramatic pussified wusslord:rolleyes:

All this crap for nothing, SERIOUSLY LOL. Told ya, dumbfuck;)

[Revel]

Lol you're right actually ... there is a fair few. Must be something in the water :P.

Lightfingers, are you a new guy or one of the old MM posters under a new name?

Dark

New guy at least as far as these forums are concerned.

[A.J.]

lmao wow.....i didnt even read the story and i think its retarded it ended with no fight....