Acronyms and Terminology

[-Silver-]

I've noticed a few confused questions about some of the acronyms and terminology already, and I can only see these questions rising as new guys flock to the scene. So! Here's an alphabetical list of the structure, acronyms, and terminology that we all use. Hope this helps some of you out:

The Structure:

As defined in Mystery's 'The Mystery Method' book.

A1-Open: The man approaches the set, runs an opener, and immediately earns the set's acceptance.

A2-Female-To-Male Interest: The man demonstrates higher value, while simultaneously showing lack of interest in the target. She responds with indicators of interest.

A3-Male-To-Female Interest: The man baits the woman to become more invested in the interaction, and then he rewards her efforts with indicators of interest.

C1-Conversation: The couple shares in friendly dialogue. A sense of comfort and rapport develops.

C2-Connection: Both parties feel a vibe that 'it is on.' Kissing occurs. This phase may last over the course of several dates.

C3-Intimacy: Now at a seduction location, heavy making out ensues and the couple moves into the bedroom.

S1-Foreplay: The couple begins the physical escalation towards sex. If this happens too soon, it can cause buyer's remorse.

S2-LMR: Last-minute resistance is the point of no return before sex occurs. It's often a freak-out moment for the woman.

S3-Sex: It is necessary to have sexual intercourse several times in order to ensure a sexual relationship.

This is the basic structure of the game. It gives you the frame, allowing you to know what to work around. In no way do I suggest taking it from here and believing that this is the only knowledge you need, but I can't quote the whole book for you!

The Acronyms:

AA: Approach Anxiety. Those damn butterflies in your chest as you approach a girl, or the wall of fear that prevents you from approaching at all. (psst! Here's a hint: you can walk straight through that wall!)

AFC: Average Frustrated Chump. Practically every guy who isn't a natural or a pickup artist.

rAFC: Reformed/Recovering Average Frustrated Chump. Someone who hasn't yet mastered the skills of a pickup artist, but who is on his way to learning them. The majority of the community basically.

AMOG: Alpha Male of the Group. The ring-leader of a social circle or set of people. AMOG can also be used as a verb to describe the act of positioning yourself as the alpha male. (AMOGing)

ASD: Anti-Slut Defence. Something every woman has and will likely use, to prevent lowering her perceived value in the eyes of her friends and any significant others. Can also be linked to last-minute resistance for the same reason as above.

DHV: Demonstration of Higher Value. Anything that will raise your own social value, and build attraction in the target. Could be a story, a magic trick, demonstration of leadership etc.

DLV: Demonstration of Lower Value. The opposite of a DHV, and to be avoided at all costs!

DYD: Double Your Dating. David DeAngelo's market for pick-up, mainly focusing on cocky-funny.

FB: Fuck Buddy. You don't honestly need an explanation for that do you? When a man and a woman become very close, something magical can happen! The man will... geez...

FR: Field Report. A post on the forum detailing a night out, or a date with a girl, allowing for community feedback.

FTC: False Time Constraint. To indicate to a group that you won't be able to stay for long. 'I've only got a couple of minutes, I have to meet some friends on the hour.'

HB/SHB: Hot Babe / Super Hot Babe. Will usually be presented with a number after the acronym such as HB9, and in the case of a SHB - SHB11. A HB is usually any girl rating from a 6 to a 10. A SHB rating is for girls above a 10/10.

IOI: Indicator of Interest. Given by a girl when she is interested in you, or by you to the girl in A3 to reward her.

IOD: Indicator of Disinterest. Used to disqualify yourself as a potential boyfriend during A1 and A2. A neg is an example of this.

SOI: Statement of Intent, or Show of Interest. A direct comment to convey that you are interested in a girl.

IVD: Interactive Value Demonstration. A type of routine designed to hook a woman, by teaching her something interesting about herself.

KJ: Keyboard Jockey. Used to describe a member of the community who spends all of his time on the forums, and none of it running game.

LJBF: Let's Just Be Friends. A common rejection line used by girls.

LSE: Low Self-Esteem. To describe someone who has... well... low self-esteem.

LTR: Long-Term Relationship. There's no real set time as to when a relationship becomes 'long-term', just means you've been with the girl for a while and most likely intend to stay with her for the forseeable future.

MLTR: Multiple Long-Term Relationships. Ideally you should be honest with girls if you are seeing more than one at a time, and let them know about it.

MM/TMM: Mystery Method / The Mystery Method. The method we use to improve our lives and successes with women!

NLP: Neuro-Linguistic Programming. A form of psychology and waking hypnosis, in which subtle lines and references are made in conversation to elicit certain emotions in a person, affecting them on a subconscious level.

S&R: Survival and Replication. The driving factors in our life. Improve your chances at both, and you become more attractive to women. That's the gist of it anyhow!

The Terminology:

Anchor: An external stimulus (a sight, sound, or touch) that triggers a specific emotional or behavioural response. Can also be used as a verb to indicate that you are anchoring a happy emotion to the act of you touching a girl's shoulder for example.

Bitch Shield/Defence Shield: Used by attractive women to get rid of men that are approaching them. This is not their real personality, just a means of screening out the average guys who are not worth their time. If they did make time for every guy that approached them, they wouldn't have enough hours in the day.

Body Rock: A non-verbal false time constraint. For example - leaning back and looking over your shoulder towards your friends, as though you are about to leave.

Bounce: To move from one venue to another. See also: Move, and Time Bridge.

Boyfriend Destroying: Tyler Durden's signature method. The act of sounding as though you are sticking up for a girl's boyfriend, whilst making him appear like a completely unnatractive man. The detailed post: http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3

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Buying Temperature: How ready a woman is for intimate physical contact. Unlike attraction, this can rise and fade quickly. Fast-paced routines can pump her buying temperature well.

Calibrate: To alter your own actions to fit in with how a person or set is reacting at the time, and what they are thinking. Comes with practice.

Caveman: To directly escalate physical contact. Termed so due to the fact that cavemen had little or no verbal communication, and so worked on instinct and strength to mate.

Chick Crack: Term used to describe any psychological or spiritual test or routine. (best friends test, the cube, esp routine) Girls lap it up!

Close: The act of ending an interaction with a girl, or reaching a certain stage. Number close - getting her phone number. Kiss close - getting her to kiss you. Full-close / Fuck-close - take a wild guess.

Cockblocker: Someone who interferes with the interaction between you and the target, whether accidentally or on purpose. Can be male or female. See also: Obstacle.

Crash and Burn: Getting badly, rudely, or aggressively blown out of a set.

Day 2: A subsequent meeting with a girl, set up either during or after the original interaction with her.

Doggy Eyes: A look a girl will give you when she is completely hooked, and captivated. She won't be talking, and won't want you to stop talking. It really is magical!

Field: Any location where sarging takes place. Could be a club, a coffee house, a park etc.

Field-Test: To try out a new concept, theory, or routine in the field, in order to determine how effective it is.

Flake: When a girl cancels on an arranged meeting.

Fluff-Talk: Natural conversation about nothing imparticular.

Frame: The context within which a person, thing, event, or environment is perceived. The stronger a person's frame, the more likely a woman will fall into that perceived reality, and comply with him.

Freeze-out: To ignore a woman causing her to seek validation. Can be used to counter last-minute resistance, pulling away from her completely.

Gambit: Canned material, usually short, used to keep conversation going or even start it up in some cases. Consider it as ammunition in your arsenal.

Group Theory: The concept that attractive women are most likely to be found surrounded by others.

Hired Guns: Waitresses, strippers, and any other establishment-provided girl. Generaly recruited for their attractiveness.

Hook Point: When the set accepts you and wants you to stay, allowing you to move from A1 into A2.

Hoop Theory: When a girl asks you to do something for her, she is getting you to jump through a hoop. 'Can you carry my bag for me?' AFCs will jump straight through and carry the bag with no hesitation. Here's Mystery's explanation, and how to deal with it: http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22

Instant Date: Bouncing from one venue (a club) to another that can be considered a date location (a restaraunt), on the same night.

Kino: Short for kinesthetic, it is the act of physical interaction.

Lock-in: To be locked into a set - achievable once you reach the hook point. You want it to appear as though the girls are hitting on you rather than the other way around. So if you approach two girls at a bar, you want to work the set so that you are eventually inbetween the girls and leaning with your back against the bar, with them facing you and away from the rest of the club. If you're really good, they genuinely will be hitting on you.

Lock-in Prop: A prop used to keep the target locked into the set, and prevent her from leaving. Wear a hat? Put it on her head. Wear shades? Make her 'try them on.'

Model: To observe and imitate the behaviour of another person, typically someone who possesses a trait or skill you wish to acquire.

Move: To move from one area of a venue to another inside the same venue, usually a quiter location for easier conversation. See also: Bounce, and Time Bridge.

Neg: An ambiguous statement or seemingly accidental insult delivered to a beautiful woman, with the intent of actively demonstrating to her, and her friends, a lack of interest in her.

Nonversation: A conversation where one person isn't paying attention to what the other is saying.

Obstacles: In a set, you will have a Target, and Obstacles. The target being the girl you are interested in, and the obstacles being her friends or aquantences. The obstacles must be befriended before they will allow you to easily show interest to the target.

One-itis: Placing one girl on a pedestal, and believing she is so much more special than every other girl, which just isn't true. Needs to be cured if that girl is unattainable, or lost.

Opener: A line or conversation piece designed to get you into, and talking to, a set.

Outalpha: To become the dominant male in the group, by actively placing yourself above another dominant male of a group, and showing higher social value than him. See also: AMOG.

Pawn: Described by Style as: To approach and talk to one group of people, in order to get closer, and meet a woman or group, adjacent to it. Described by Mystery as: A girl whom you have previously gamed for the express of purpose of bringing her into your next set, so that it will open easier. Often used to lower bitch shields. Both descriptions are similar in a sense, and both good methods, utilizing social proof. See also: Pivot.

Peacock: Dressing to stand out, or to have an item of clothing or an accessory that looks interesting, allowing the girl to comment on it if she is interested in starting a conversation with you.

Pecking: Leaning forward whenever you speak, which is something to be avoided. Leaning back prevents intruding on their personal space, and doesn't make you look needy.

Phase Shift: To transition from normal talk with a woman to slower, sexual talk, touch, or body language. Useful before going for the kiss.

Pivot: A girl who will agree to hang out with you to raise your social proof, usually in exchange for helping her meet guys. She can be used as a pawn to enter sets with. See also: Pawn.

Proximity: When a girl moves to stand nearby you, usually with her back turned towards you, in the hope that you might start a conversation with her.

Push-Pull: A technique used to create or increase attraction, where a man will indicate that he isn't interested in the girl, followed by indications that he is. Has a powerful effect on her emotions.

Reframe: To alter the context in which someone sees a scene, situation, or person.

Sarge: The act of going out and interacting with girls.

Set: A group of two or more people comprised of both men and women that a man would have to approach and befriend in order to be able to woo his "target" girl.

Shit Test: A question, demand, or seemingly hostile comment made by a woman in order to determine whether a man is strong enough to be a potential boyfriend or sexual partner. If he takes it at face value, he will generally fail the test and she will lose attraction for him. An example could be her saying: 'You're too old for me.'

Takeaway: Or false-takeaway. Similar to a bodyrock, but where you actually start leaving the group rather than just use body language to indicate you are about to. Executed correctly, you will be dragged back in.

Target: The girl you are interested in having sexual relations with. She will usually be one member of a group of people. See also: Obstacle.

Three Second Rule: If you see a girl you are interested in, you must approach her within three seconds or you will over-think things and create too much approach anxiety, and you will risk her seeing you staring at her. The only time you can break this rule is if you feel you should follow the Three Minute Rule instead.

Three Minute Rule: If by approaching the target now, you are at risk of being interrupted during the first three minutes of your interaction with her (ie: she has just sat down at a restaraunt table and the waiter may arrive to take her order), then it is recommended you wait before you approach for a clear opportunity. You may not be able to hook the set in less than 3 minutes, which will lead to an awkward situation during and after an interruption.

Time Bridge: Agreeing to meet up with a girl at a later date, leaving time inbetween the current intercation, and the future-planned interaction. See also: Move, and Bounce.

Triangular Gaze: A precursor to kissing. Look into her left eye, then to her right eye, then to her lips, and back to her eyes again. Generates sexual energy. And yes, it is renewable and ecofriendly.

Wing: A male partner with knowledge of pickup, who helps you to find, meet, and attract women. The wing can occupy obstacles while you talk to the target, or talk to the target to boast about your positive traits for you.


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Now that may be a pretty lengthy list, but there's bound to be things I've missed out. So if you know of anything that you believe should be added, say so! And I'll edit the post to stick it in with the rest. Hope this helps as a point of reference, and is useful to anyone new to this!

-Silver-

[Couture]

Good stuff.

[Slick]

Thanks, even though I've been around the community
for a while now I had missed out on some of the lingo.

Slick

[Dox]

Methinks this thread should be stickied...

[hrithik]

Methinks this thread should be stickied...

Second that

[ZipperBoy]

I hear an echo :rolleyes:

[Dox]

*bump*

admins, could we please have this stickied? It proves to be quite the useful thread for members new and old alike.

[Express2]

Sticky it. Please.

[-Silver-]

Gotta love how dedicated these mods are! Glad you found it useful, so now i'll work out a way to make the title sparkle or set of fireworks until the mods notice it.

-Silver-

[WestsideConnection]

Sticky For Sure. First thing I looked for when I found this forum...


WSC

[Prophet]

Sorry guys, I guess I missed this thread.

Don't be afraid to PM me about stuff like this. If you guys think something is awesome and needs to be stickied or something needs to be moved somewhere, just shoot me a PM.

[Dox]

will do, thanks Prophet :)

[Magpie]

Was glad to find this, so many acronyms and initialisms. One question, I know what sarge means, but can anyone explain why it means that? Been doing lots of reading on the forums, and every time I see "sarge" it just sounds strange.

[Dan]

Please if you have any feeling of wanting to help people get beautiful women please sticky this...:)

[HERQ]

In Style's book "The Game",on page 39 it has this.
"Sarging is pickup artist jargon for going out to meet women;the term evidently has its origins in the name of one of Ross Jeffries's cats,Sargy."

[Dox]

Addition:

STYLEMOG—noun or verb: a subtle set of tactics, mannerisms, backhanded
compliments, and responses used to keep a pickup artist dominant in a group.
Origin: Tyler Durden.

Should we include other phrases mentioned in "The Game", or just let people read the book, and subsequently the glossary, for themselves?

[Cr8ton]

I don't see the acronym for S & R .. if I missed it forgive me. Can someone let me know what S & R means? :confused:

[Dox]

Survival and Replication - the 2 base, primal needs of all humans, according to the VAH

[Magpie]

In Style's book "The Game",on page 39 it has this.
"Sarging is pickup artist jargon for going out to meet women;the term evidently has its origins in the name of one of Ross Jeffries's cats,Sargy."

Cool, thanks for that tidbit. So sarging is sort of "on the prowl" type thing.

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

http://tiny-link.com/vs.asp?h=88310440883YHYHME&l=

Here is Ross Jeffries elaborating on the word SARGE.

[Syph]

How about AA, what does AA mean?

[Dox]

Approach Anxiety

[Syph]

Ah. Thanks Dox :)

[Kurt Jaydestone]

what the hell is the logics behind the scale used to rate girls
imean if i ever saw a hb10
i would pretty much know the rest has any one ever seen a hb10

i also would like to know waht is a full monty
i heard mystery and herbal tea say it on you tube
search mystery gets lmr'd

[Dox]

full monty = f-close

the HB ranking scale is basically determined by your personal taste...for instance, if you saw a girl who had all the physical attributes that turned you on and gave you a colossal chubby just from eye contact, that would be an HB10 (possibly SHB11+, depending on how much she turns you on lol). The less she turns you on, the lower the ranking. This is a term more used for FRs and LRs when trying to communicate the relative "hotness" of a particular lady, not so much to objectify her.

[Kurt Jaydestone]

thanx
wow i really get it
i love you mmmmwwwa


now back to manly things like kiss closing and full montying and # closing and bonceing

haha it rhymed

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

Opps, three new words.

- ROLL OFF
- TAKEAWAY
- LOCK IN

[Captain Destruction]

SOMEONE PLEASE DEFINE THESE 2 WORDS

-GAMBIT
-ROLL OFF

:confused:

THANKS

[Dox]

Gambit = DHV routine

Roll off, I think, is verbally and physically backing out of set so they can pull you back in, increasing your value. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, I haven't seen it put into textbook definition myself.

[Poetry]

Gambit = DHV routine

Roll off, I think, is verbally and physically backing out of set so they can pull you back in, increasing your value. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, I haven't seen it put into textbook definition myself.

I believe you're correct, though many may confuse it with body rocking -- which is using your body to deliver a FTC -- acting like you're about to leave any second.

[-Silver-]

Finally convinced my university to give me full internet access. Been living without msn for over a week, god knows how I made it without going cold-turkey. Good work with the extra additions, i'll have them up on the list asap.

-Silver-

[Complex]

Stick! yeah!

[SubGenius]

I didn't have time to look through all of the previous replies so if someone asked this already, please don't flame me...

Are you guys above a somewhat noob throwing out some lingo of his own? I've come up with a couple nifty terms, even though I haven't been a part of the community that long. Don't want to get too anxious and overstep my boundaries. Just an anxious AFC.

[city_knight]

Tyler D refers to "ASF" in the BFDestroying thread - what's that then?

[ReallyPatheticFatSlob]

alt.seduction.fast It's where virtually all the current seduction gurus once posted in their more humble days æons ago.

Look at this Wikipedia Entry for more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.seduction.fast

ASF or MASF as it's called today is currently found at this location: http://www.fastseduction.com

It's a place where Formhandle taught Mystery the secrets of the jedi.

[vieuxgarcon]

what is a full monty? I'm guessing the obvious....

[Dox]

previously mentioned in thread

[mR. PotenTial]

That's a pretty good list you and others have compiled, 'Silver'.
Well done.

I wasn't sure about a couple of them myself but now I'm more clear on what is implied when people refer to those terms.

[burn625]

whats DYD? i saw it in a thread comparing it to MM, but what is it?

[mR. PotenTial]

Double-Your-Dating.

David DeAngelo's set of products.

[Decibel]

2 phrases I use often:
1. To Pradeep. As in the VH1 episode where Pradeep enters a set another guy had been working, and blows him out.
Example: "Me and my wing opened a 2 set last night, then out of nowhere, he Pradeeps me and steals my target."

2. Fuglies. A woman so undesirable, she's fucking ugly.
"Dude, I'm not gonna keep winging you if you keep opening fuglies."

[Decibel]

Two more phrases, which I've coined:
1. A closed set, aka a sarge-proof set. Examples include a man and woman holding hands, or a 2 set of girls who haven't seen each other in a while and are deeply engrossed in convo. No matter how hard you try, you will not be able to run game on these sets, as they are closed.
2. Sarge-worthy. A set or venue that includes targets worthy of your efforts. "I hung out at the mall for an hour but there were no sarge-worthy sets to open."

[mR. PotenTial]

Lol... yeh, the 'fugly' one is used quite often where I'm at too. We say it when a girl is not just ugly but she's FUCKING ugly!! Although unfortunately, most guys I've met are too harsh with it and go around calling HB5 and HB6's Fuglies which is stupid and makes wrong use of the terminology! :rolleyes:

As for using 'Pradeep' as a verb, haha that could be a good one. :D
That guy was a total jack@$s and should've got knocked out earlier.

[Decibel]

Another one we've been using is sushi, as in cold fish. This refers to a set where the target is not in the slightest responsive to your advances. They act like a cold fish. "Man, I ran my best routines, but she was acting all sushi."

[BangBang]

Yeah, sushi girls are hard to read. Sometimes they're really uptight prudes, others, if you get them in bed, they're telling you to stick the lamp up their ass. Weird.

[amature]

whats LTRs?

[Dox]

Long Term Relationships - mLTR is multi-Long Term Relationships, like when you have several gfs that all know about each other.

[BJW]

Just got here, and wanted to say thanks for the thread. I have been wondering where to look for all the lingo, and now I need to look no further.

B

[Decibel]

IMO, IMHO, IMAO
In my opinion, in my honest opinion, in my arrogant opinion

[Khaki]

I've been around a while, but I have no idea what the hell a KJ is. I'm seeing that term thrown around a lot lately, though. What's it stand for?

[azazels_wolf]

I've been around a while, but I have no idea what the hell a KJ is. I'm seeing that term thrown around a lot lately, though. What's it stand for?

KJ = Keyboard Jockey. Someone who spends all their time posting about pickup, without gaining any in-field experience.

You can't trust their advice because they don't really know what they're talking about. They also tend to be the ones who get into ridiculous arguments and put everyone else down.

[Skizzle]

Alright, 2 quick definitions I'm looking for that I've seen around recently.

Swingcat
Triangular Gaze

Thanks.

[azazels_wolf]

Alright, 2 quick definitions I'm looking for that I've seen around recently.

Swingcat
Triangular Gaze

Thanks.

Swinggcat is another PUA, you can look him up on Google.

Triangular Gaze - Look into her left eye, right eye, down to her lips, then back again to her eyes. It's a precursor to kissing.

[-Silver-]

Updated, keep up the good additions and questions.

-Silver-

[jadler]

great work! seeing as i hail from the ub3r bl4ck h4t ring of people the last thing i want to see is more abbreviations. this thread just saved me alot of time.

[Nutz]

Orbiter

A male friend of an HB that likely wants to have sex with her, but lacks the attraction and/or moxie to make it happen. Often considers themselves "nice guys" and get the "Let's Just Be Friends" speech.

[smoosh]

What is FDQ?

[azazels_wolf]

I've never seen FDQ before, but someone might have been using it as a lazy abbreviation for "False Disqualifier"

[Alpha_wolf]

Hey gang,

We have been compiling PUA lingos, terms, philosophies over the past 3 months. You will be able to find the detailed explanation and description of PUA terminology and definitions here.

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Any feedback (http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pZPopne_JFDo2GXK7sEhBSQ&hl=en)of course would be greatly appreciated on the site design, etc.

Thanks,

-AlphaWolf.

[RAMM]

the HB ranking scale is basically determined by your personal taste...for instance, if you saw a girl who had all the physical attributes that turned you on and gave you a colossal chubby just from eye contact, that would be an HB10 (possibly SHB11+, depending on how much she turns you on lol). The less she turns you on, the lower the ranking. This is a term more used for FRs and LRs when trying to communicate the relative "hotness" of a particular lady, not so much to objectify her.


Yeah, and also, to game purpose, the HB number is not what a guy think it is, but what the girl perceives herself as. In fact, rating HBs is not only used for bbragging with your male friends about your full-monties, it was meant for you to understand that an HB8 needs different game to an HB10. But this also means you must determine how she eprceives herself. You might think of her as an HB8, but if she thinks she's a 10 you must game her like a 10.
If she's a 9 but has low self-esteem then you might game her like an HB7.
If she's less then an HB 7 you might arguably not call her an HB.

[whizkid]

Howdy!

is the acronym "DDB", the same like "DDBL"? I think it is, but an affirmation would be pretty cool ;) .

Thanks and greetings

_whizkid_

[azazels_wolf]

Yeah, it's that IOI and emotional spike we know as the Doggy Dinner Bowl [Look].

[RAMM]

Yeah, and also, to game purpose, the HB number is not what a guy think it is, but what the girl perceives herself as. In fact, rating HBs is not only used for bbragging with your male friends about your full-monties, it was meant for you to understand that an HB8 needs different game to an HB10. But this also means you must determine how she eprceives herself. You might think of her as an HB8, but if she thinks she's a 10 you must game her like a 10.
If she's a 9 but has low self-esteem then you might game her like an HB7.
If she's less then an HB 7 you might arguably not call her an HB.


If you were to meet Afrodite in person you would say she's a 20 on the human scale of 1 to 10 right? Well, that's the kind of girl I just found. A fucking 20.:eek:

[Rambo]

what does the A in A1, A2, and A3 stand for? as well as the C in C1, C2, C3 and the S in S1, S2, S3?

[azazels_wolf]

Attraction, Comfort, Seduction. The phases of the game.
You should read the Mystery Method book.

[Appreciate the Artistry]

Not sure what this might mean but if anyone can help with the term c/f, that would be awesome. Thanks!!

[azazels_wolf]

C/F = cocky-funny