a women prespective on opinion openers

[ENZO57]

my wing and i were farming on south beach and opened to a single set with an opnion opener. as i stood back and watched, something hit me.
most of these "indirect" openers are "direct'' openers rephrased because the target knows u r hitting on her. like why on earth would he ask HER and not the ugly grl 5 ft away or ANY other grl around. idk i used to be very confident with opinion openers but as of last night i am doubting them tremendously. if any1 has any input, let me kno

[Grasshopper]

I think thats the idea, they know that your not only there for the opinion but at the same time your hitting on them in a non threatening way... its also different from the usual bs they get from other blokes. Dont doubt them, they work fair well, i actually use them after an OMG opener because once you have their attention, its much easier to start that opinion convo =]

-Grasshopper.

[azazels_wolf]

ENZO57:

Hence the added calibration via false time constraint, false disqualifiers and/or negs, body rocking, etc. Plus, if you are working a room or other specific area, you don't just open the target, you open others beforehand for social proof and preselection.

[ENZO57]

grasshopes: idk i always felt that we have to be under a radar. like i look like a player so that doesnt help me...:(
wolf: i think u answered my Q bc its not JUST the opener but everything that comes with it. but when picking up a random grl in the street or a wlking target, i think its still the same

[Grasshopper]

That doesnt make sense, all i said was that we're hitting on them in a way that has them asking whether or not we're hitting on them or not...

-Grasshopper.

[ENZO57]

oOo lol, that makes a lotttt more sense