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Gambit
01-20-2007, 06:28 PM
This is happening LOTS, i can sense this is going to be a major sticking point:

i am in set and i am running attract material, and i get a few IOIs eg leaning forward, kino, kino test, compliance, and general increase in buying temperature.

at this point i find that, they are not asking the rapport seeking questions, like: "What is you name?", "what do you do?" etc etc

at this point, i carry on with A2 material, and run out of stuff say

so i push forward, and try and get into A3, by asking qualifying questions.

but it fucks up her state and attract vibe, and there is nothing i can do, since i a have ran out of attract material.

what is the best way to deal with this? where am i going wrong?

-Gambit

crypticfox
01-20-2007, 06:46 PM
I have a similar problem not getting solid attraction going... or at least it's sporadic from night to night (some nights are better than others). If you get solid attraction she will be eager to qualify herself. If she's resistant to qualify, it means your A2 is lacking something. My guess is the delivery isn't consistant with the material in some way.

Something that I've been doing is running easier sets in the beginning of the night. Don't be afraid to go talk to some 5's sitting by themselves in the corner. More often than not, I get an almost giddy response when I talk to a 5... and that gets me pumped up and in a social mood. Then the 7 goes better, and after the 7, the 8 goes better and so on.

I actually have a pretty cool story about that... Thursday night first thing I did when I walked in to the club was go talk to this group of fat girls. I entertained them for about 8 minutes and then made my way upstairs. Later that night I opened this HB8 and she was like "oh you're the guy that was talking to my friends earlier! They thought you were so cool!"

smoothlatinkid
01-20-2007, 06:56 PM
My guess would be your BL and your delivery. Eye contact? Locking in, leaning back? Light kino, and smile?

Also, while running a2, you don't want to be rushing, or act like the dancing monkey. Fun vibe, not performance vibe.

Are you asking them "so where do you guys know each other from?" Using the information to tease or banter with them?

Utah
01-23-2007, 12:44 AM
This is happening LOTS, i can sense this is going to be a major sticking point:

i am in set and i am running attract material, and i get a few IOIs eg leaning forward, kino, kino test, compliance, and general increase in buying temperature.

at this point i find that, they are not asking the rapport seeking questions, like: "What is you name?", "what do you do?" etc etc

at this point, i carry on with A2 material, and run out of stuff say

so i push forward, and try and get into A3, by asking qualifying questions.

but it fucks up her state and attract vibe, and there is nothing i can do, since i a have ran out of attract material.

what is the best way to deal with this? where am i going wrong?

-Gambit

If you are running out of material then you should try cocky funny.

The beauty of this is that you are not running "routines" as such but you are taking what they are saying and twisting it into something sexual/funny.

Because you are feeding off them you can't run out of material. It also comes off as more natural as opposed to canned (which can be a problem sometimes).

My personal favourites are to accuse them of trying to seduce you (this is GOLD), "break up" with them, give them a nickname, and then accuse them of checking out your ass (after you've told them that you are an ass model by trade). These are all killer and the IOI's usually start flowing!

Also, perhaps try a rapport building technique such as the cube. This is great for attraction but it also gives you an opportunity to find out about them and shift to A3. (eg. Wow, you have a large cube - that means you are a self confident person. I really respect that alot. Man I can't even talk to you now! Boom! A3!)

Hope this helps