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Waka
08-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Before I start I should comment - I gave WAY too little credit to NLP. It works so amazingly well. With practise, this is going to soar my comfort/seduction game so much.

Ok so this all takes place over msn. Probably not the best medium, but I'm at home so it's the only one available to me. She's a friend, we've hooked up before, and I know she's into me. I'm seeing her tomorrow, so I thought 'why not experiment with NLP?'

She brings up the topic of blowjobs, because of one of those stupid msn emoticons of some girl blowing a dude, while hes pushing her head down. She's like 'if a guy pushed my head down, id bite'. Seeing as I'm bisexual I am able to describe the feeling of giving a blowjob in accurate detail, in emotional language that I know will get her going. She happens to find guy on guy action hot too, so I guess that's a good situation to start with. I'll spare the details, and get to the relevant parts.

Girl:
mmmm

Girl:
thats fucking hot

Girl:
if you suck it really hard for just a minute the expression on their face actually makes me sooo wet

My thoughts: 'fucking score'. My plan was to basically get her thinking about how awesome giving blowjobs is, while it's me thats making her feel that. So she will at some point imagine me as the dude. This carried on for a bit, becoming more and more suggestive. I started talking about how awesome it feels to receive one, and threw in some emotional language to make it difficult to read without visualising.

As this was going so well I decided to implement something else I was reading about. Trance words.

Me:
whats the most important thing in a relationship, for you?

Girl:
Trust.

She'd repeated the same word before in other conversations, about how she has to trust a guy to do anything etc etc. So I figured this was what I was looking for.

Me:
whats it like when you can just trust a guy

Girl:
its amazing.

Girl:
you can tell them anything, and it just brings you so much closer knowing you can share things without anyone else knowing

Girl:
makes you love them more than anything else in the whole world

Me: (freestyling motherfuckers)
I know what you mean. its such an awesome feeling to know that the person youre talking to will accept all of your darkest secrets without judgement, and you can just feel totally safe talking to him.

Girl:
it makes you feel so secure

Girl:
i remember one time me and martyn were sat by the river and we were talking about trust and how we could tell each other anything and we just sat facing each other with our arms and legs wrapped round each other and our noses touching just smiling at each other

Girl:
and i was so happy

Martyn was her ex boyfriend. My thoughts: "ABORT! ABORT! DIVERT AND ABORT!" But unfortunately girls feeling like shit is pretty much the thing that affects me the most, so I made the most fundamental error of the evening, which i'm still kicking myself for.

Me: It sounds like you really miss him.

Girl: More than anything else in the world.

So I told her to contact him again. I mean I can hardly run game on a girl who cries about how much she loves and misses her ex boyfriend, no matter how much I like her. So we started talking about him. By this time I had totally given up on gaming the girl, so I just did whatever came naturally.

The conversation ended with a chat about miscarriages, her saying 'youre such a great friend' and me feeling slightly foolish, being further into the friends zone than I was before I started talking to her.

Goddamn it I am such an AFC sometimes. That's the third girl I've inadvertantly managed to hook up with another dude while trying to run game.

The experience did however open my eyes as to how powerful NLP can be. I mean the bits I used are no doubt weak, but they worked so well. I've never got this girl so worked up before with just language. And the trance words thing worked REALLY well at opening her up into a really personal conversation. I suppose I'm unlucky that this girl still pines over her ex boyfriend of a year ago, but I can imagine this working more to my favour with other people.

Abower The Don
08-01-2007, 05:49 PM
Phail.




:)

A.J.
08-02-2007, 09:11 AM
lol awe well ya i agree NLP can work well but you kinda messed up this one :P

Dark
08-04-2007, 01:10 PM
Me: It sounds like you really miss him.

That right there gave me a Tourette moment ARG !! Lol ah well I can empathize with you here. Tough going man !

oscarkool2
08-17-2007, 01:39 AM
hahaha yea it was all good until you changed the topic from you to her ex-boyfriend lol. that = FAIL! but no worries lol just dont mention him again ever ever ever

party scott
08-26-2007, 11:16 PM
My favorite part of this convo was u talking about trust.. then posting this online. solid, solid gold.

Remember failure isnt failure if you learn from it.

A.J.
08-27-2007, 12:19 AM
That's the third girl I've inadvertantly managed to hook up with another dude while trying to run game.
.

aparently he hasent learned that, making this a genuine FAIL

lol im just teasing Waka i love you and these storys, keep em coming man

Krypto
08-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Waka... two things I noticed in the transaction, and I've got about 10 years NLP and some SS experience thrown in for good measure

1) you weren't building a connection by asking about trust. You did a good job eliciting trust, but if she doesn't know you then there is no trust. You can build a connection with someone, and with enough "you and her" time can trust be built. You should have started with talking about connection, attraction, etc.

2) If she brings up her ex you should have frozen her out at that point, switched gears (break her state/interrupt it) then come back to connection and attraction to you after a couple minutes. Asking a girl if she misses him (although a legitimate fact finding question on your part) was NOT what you were looking for: if she missed the guy so damned much, she'd be back at his doorstep right now. Asking her to access the state of missing someone and talking about the guy is just crazy.

At least you know she is still hung up on the guy... in her mind. This is Mystery's site so I'm not going to turn this into a big SS thread, but you need to go look up boyfriend destroyer patterns for stuff like this. That is advanced skill level stuff and requires training, not just something you get out of a study book or some tapes.

As for this case... yeah, you should bail out on this one.

forynav
08-29-2007, 01:19 AM
oh damn, I choked on a chicken nugget reading the subject of this post and your emoticon :P

Good work? :D